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Keene Idea - Alpine Beer Company

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Ratings: 221
Reviews: 39
rAvg: 4.63
pDev: 6.91%


Brewed by:
Alpine Beer Company visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial IPA |  8.88% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Formerly known as Toronado 25th

(Beer added by: HopHead84 on 08-11-2012)
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UAhobbes

California

4.8/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

Had Keene Idea this past weekend at Alpine. One of the best beers I've had the opportunity to drink. So incredibly smooth...the drinkability was top notch.

S- Smell is of a mango, pineapple citrus.

T- Taste is super crisp, very refreshing

O- Overall it is one, if not the best, beer I've ever had.

Oh and the food to accompany the beers at Alpine were on par with the beers themselves. I highly recommend the onion rings, the BBQ of any kind and the beans...gotta get the beans!

Serving type: on-tap

03-10-2014 04:23:30 | More by UAhobbes
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hops_and_waves

California

4.99/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Probably the best beer I've ever had. Great citrus aroma, great taste without being too sweet or being too bitter. Less sweet than most 9% alcohol double IPAs. No alcohol burn. Tastes like 7%. The only fault with this beer is that they don't make enough of it.

Serving type: on-tap

02-22-2014 01:00:03 | More by hops_and_waves
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ArrogantB

Colorado

4/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at the pub in Alpine, I was bummed the brewery was closed but this made up for it. More yellow than orange, looks like Nelson. Aroma was super hoppy, fruity and the flavor followed suit but to be honest I prefer Nelson. Nelson just seems to have this peach like quality right down to the fuzziness in the mouthfeel. Still, this is great IPA which is no surprise.

Serving type: on-tap

01-08-2014 03:18:34 | More by ArrogantB
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zhanson88

California

4.56/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Pours a clear honey color with about 1/4" of eggshell white head with decent lacing. A bit of carbonation is apparent, but not much. Nice clarity on this beer, but head characteristics could be a bit better.

Smell: A hint of pale and biscuit malts initially, followed by intense citrus, pine and dankness. Excellent hop balance.

Taste: In a word, clean. A hint of pale malt sweetness up front, followed by waves of citrus rind, pine and hop dankness. Definitely one of the most well rounded and cleanest IPAs I have had in some time.

Mouthfeel/Overall: The beer is light to medium in body, with just enough carbonation. Extremely drinkable and does not even come close to drinking to its ABV. Overall, an awesome beer. Was fortunate to be able to sample several of Alpine's hoppy beers during my visit, and this one was leagues ahead of the rest. Excellent.

Serving type: on-tap

01-03-2014 03:36:29 | More by zhanson88
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AgentMunky

California

4.33/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Served in a tasting glass the Firestone Walker Beer Fest. From notes. Reviewed 1 June 2013.

The beer smells so strongly of resinous hops as to smell like weed. The main taste is fruity and delicious, and remarkably drinkable for the ABV. Overall, I really enjoyed it and would love to have again.

Serving type: on-tap

08-15-2013 07:25:22 | More by AgentMunky
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RaulMondesi

California

4.69/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Sometimes Raul just has to do it. Like your granmama when she goes to K-Mart for a new muumuu, sometimes Raul just has to splurge!

Did someone bottle a tropical rainforest, put it in a Magic Bullet, blend it, add some hops, and then put it in Raul's glass? I mean, bomb diggity! Ecstasy on all levels!

Like when your baby mama's mama's flight gets delayed - Raul can get used to this!

Serving type: on-tap

06-05-2013 07:59:19 | More by RaulMondesi
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kojevergas

Texas

4.13/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Served on-draught into a pilsner glass at Alpine's pub in Alpine. Expectations were extremely high; I love Alpine. Reviewed from notes. I don't recall the cost. Whatever it was, it was worth it.

A: Pours a half finger head of off-white colour, somewhat thin but of fair cream. Retention is average. Body colour is a vibrant understated copper. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show.

Sm: Citrus, floral hops, a hint of hop bitterness, some pine, and pale malts. Evocative and inviting.

T: Heavy hop flavours. Very balanced; no hop bitterness comes through at all. Oily hops. Grapefruit. Hints of pine. Biscuity floral hops - amarillo? Crisp citrus. Floral notes. Pale malts. Very complex; has real depth of flavour. Dank. Clean and very enjoyable. The balance is masterful. Still, it's not as complex or subtle as I remember Exponential Hoppiness being.

Mf: Perfect dryness and smoothness for the style, coaxing out the flavours. Ideal carbonation and thickness. Not as luscious as some other great beers in the style. Buttery on the finish. Refreshing and custom-tailored to the flavour profile.

Dr: Extremely drinkable for the style and well hidden ABV. I could down this one all night. Really tasty, but perhaps not Alpine's best IPA. Slides down real easy. I love it. Another home run IPA from Alpine.

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Serving type: on-tap

01-29-2013 22:54:36 | More by kojevergas
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OTB

California

4/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Finally getting around to my notes on this taken from my lunch at Alpine right before the holiday's. The beer pours a beautiful light copper with a thin head of beady white foam. The nose is the tell tale Nelson Sauvin hop profile meshed with sweet malty bisquits and the funkiness from the hop bill. For me this is a different beer than the last effort that was either called T-25, Double Nelson or whatever you wanted to call it. This seems a bit hotter, the booze is evident here, its bitter as it should be but almost in an unfinished clunky way that isn't as seamless as the last time I had it. The mouth is fine if not a bit hot but its a joy to drink none the less. I still prefer the regular bottling of Nelson to the more amped up version.

Serving type: on-tap

12-29-2012 01:53:47 | More by OTB
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beagle75

Iowa

3.4/5  rDev -26.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Draft service into a shaker pint glass at the Alpine pub.

A: Slightly hazy, orange-golden color with less than one finger of white foam head. Moderate lacing remains on the glass.

S: Very intense at first, with a juicy combination of mixed citrus and tropical fruits. No alcohol is detected.

T: Begins dry, with an early burst of acidic and fruity hop aromatics followed by refined pale malt. Sweetness picks up into the middle where malt loses all semblance of graininess, instead becoming doughy and comparable to a powdered sugar that is heavy on the cornstarch. Flavors are simplistic into the finish where bitterness is more intense than the typical Alpine pale ale. No alcohol is detected.

M: Medium viscosity, slightly acidic yet a little lifeless on the palate, with moderate carbonation.

D/O: While this beer leaves little doubt that it was born in an Alpine fermentation vessel, with a smell that simply oozes nelson hops, it also seems unfinished. Malt qualities are not polished here; base malt is cloying instead of showing off influences from rye or other specialty grains. It may be overrated here due to its ephemeral existence, but it is not the best showcase of Alpine's majestic beers.

Serving type: on-tap

12-24-2012 21:50:07 | More by beagle75
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Nugganooch

California

4.5/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

On tap at O’Briens
12/20/12

*2nd release – stoked to catch this still on the day after.

A: Goldenrod body with some orange tones and a smidge of haze. Just enough to distort the appearance of your hand when peering through the glass. Thin lid of paper white foam with some slow rising bubbles. Sticky dots and ribbons of lace.

S: A fantastic floral nose bright with mango and peach notes. Big on the pineapple juice, with some passion fruit and just a suggestion of white wine in there. Smell is pretty killer. Not as heavy on the Nelsons it seems but all fruity and tropical hops.

T: Expressively hoppy flavors of melon, pineapple, and grapefruit. Lesser doses of white wine grape and green berries. There is real nice trailer of herbal weed stems as the pucker hits from an upper moderate bitterness on the palate. Has a perfect balance of sugars with minimal malt character and just a soft caramel kiss to it. Creeper alcohol warmth is well disguised at first. A fantastically hoppy DIPA. Not quite the Double Nelson I was hoping for but definitely tasty.

M: Medium to lighter body with an overall wetness to the beer. Although there is a bit of a crisp drying lift towards the finish. Sappy lingering hop oils with a slight bitter constricting feel.

D: Another hoppy homerun from Alpine. This did not make me think of a Double Nelson but it is delicious in its own right. Flavors are fruit forward with a more restrained white wine note. I do love the Nelson and wasn’t totally mind blown here but still very happy with the outcome. Profile of this batch comes together more like an uber fresh Sculpin or what the guys down at Societe are doing. Balance is superb however and I think I would even prefer this over Enjoy By.

Great beer hope to see this become a regular.

Serving type: on-tap

12-21-2012 19:04:25 | More by Nugganooch
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ThaFATkid

California

4.58/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Was Fortunate enough to be in town for this release. Had it on tap at there pub on and got a growler for a lucky trader. So this review is from my notes that I took while.

A- Nice orangish white somewhat cloudy body with a little bit of a white head.

S- Hoppy sweet citrus, some honey, mango, pineapple, hoppy weed mixed with a little bit of malty sweetness.

T- Double Nelson fits this perfect this needs to be bottled! With that said first off theres a fruity hoppy honey citrus sweetness that first comes to mind and as the beer warms up the better it tastes. Not too hoppy not to sweet and not bitter a well balanced beer.

M- Smooth Medium and pleasant.

Overall- Like I mentioned earlier this was from my notes and thats what I wrote while drinking it and even now I wish that they would bottle it or have it on tap more. I hope to be able to try this again to compare my notes. Drink Alpine or Go to Bed!

Serving type: on-tap

12-20-2012 05:51:02 | More by ThaFATkid
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warnerry

Michigan

4.48/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

On tap at Alpine

A - Pours a bright orange/brown with very little head. Slightly hazy.

S - Large citrus aroma with a bit of weed thrown in. In addition to the citrus, quite a bit of mango in the aroma.

T - A little sweeter than I thought it would be from the aroma. Hops still predominate, and the sweetness is actually complimentary in this case, even for an IPA. Like the aroma, lots of citrus and mango in the taste. Just enough malt base to provide balance. Very smooth and tasty.

M - very smooth mouthfeel. Just a touch of alcohol burn, but very minor. Nice bitterness, though the finish is pretty clean.

O - Haven't had Nelson in a while, so I can't compare directly, but this is very nice. Would love to have again.

Serving type: on-tap

12-16-2012 22:19:41 | More by warnerry
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Arbitrator

California

4.88/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

From the T25 anniversary party. I had several pints of this.

A: Pours a clear, golden-peach color capped with a finger of off-white head. Great retention with lace streaking down the sides of the glass during the drink.

S: Citrus -- a tropical smorgasbord of mango, pineapple, and papaya -- followed by weed and finishing with a spicy element. Initially, I assumed the spice was just the rye bill amped up, but during my second glass, an image of onions came to my mind, and I couldn't shake it thereafter. I don't like onions in beer; that being said, it is a mild presence here and not a deal-breaker.

T: As above, the predominant character is citrus (mango, white grapes, pineapple); the tropical element resonates very well with my taste buds. But that's arguably par for the course now with West Coast IPAs; even the weed presence is starting to become more commonplace. What sets this beer apart for me is a grassy, herbal undercurrent (Masterski claimed "chives," which I'm not totally sure I can place, but I can see why he said it). The rye spice is another nice touch, and it is amplified above standard Nelson. It works nicely with that onion character I noted in the aroma.

M: Medium-bodied. This hides the ABV very well for nearly 9%, and what's more impressive is that the body doesn't need to be syrupy to do it. I usually find that 10% beers and up have a bigger, maltier body than their lighter offerings, presumably to hide the alcohol better. This is at the point where the crossover from dry body to malty body must begin, yet it manages to stay relatively light and drinkable.

O: This was the hit of the day for me. It's pretty unusual for me to put down 3 pints of a 9% beer in a single sitting; this is one of the few beers that truly begged for it.

Serving type: on-tap

09-02-2012 18:44:04 | More by Arbitrator
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dsgolovin

California

4.95/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

A- Pours an amber color with small amount of head and little retention

S- Floral hops, weed

T- Deep resin flavor. Hits you in the back of your nose. So smooth and crushable for nearing 9% and just delicious. I have never had a better DIPA. Move aside Pliny, Heady Topper, Double Sunshine, and yes, even Citra.

M- This is the only knock I can give this beer. I would have liked a little more carbonation for the style. But, don't get me wrong, this is still the best I've had.

O- I don't normally review beers, but had to let Alpine know just how good this beer is so hopefully they'll make it again. Very hard to resist the urge to go to the Toronado and just drink this beer until I can't stand up to leave.

Serving type: on-tap

08-17-2012 20:52:42 | More by dsgolovin
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kayalla

California

4.43/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Enjoyed this one the day after the 25th Anniversary party. Poured into the glass an orange color with a thin head of white. Aroma was big juicy hops, fresh crystalline cannabis buds, orange and lemon peel. Taste was super balanced and a pleasant small explosion of weed like hops and orange. This was so juicy and fresh, dry in the mouth. Better than Elder in my opinion.

Serving type: on-tap

08-17-2012 02:12:02 | More by kayalla
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jethrodium

California

4.6/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Had a couple of these on draft at the Toronado anniversary party. Pours a clear golden amber with a small white head that settles to a ring and leaves some light lacing on the glass. Aroma is quite dank with grapefruit, pineapple, mango and some floral notes present. Just a bit of rye on the nose and no alcohol. The initial taste has a bit of sweetness with pineapple, rye, and mango. There is also a bit of white grape and some dankness. The finish has a decent bitterness and is dry. No alcohol at all. Medium body. Medium carbonation. This was probably the best IPA that I've had. It was easily the best beer at the Toronado anniversary party. Hopefully, they start making it regularly.

Serving type: on-tap

08-16-2012 21:46:49 | More by jethrodium
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MasterSki

Illinois

4.73/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

On-tap at Toronado - San Francisco. Numerous pint glasses consumed throughout the anniversary party.

A - Transparent golden body, with white foam that settles to a thin collar leaving minimal lacing. Servers filled the glass to the brim, so it's hard to read on head volume and retention.

S - Great mix of citrus, tropical fruits, dank weed, and a hint of onion. This year's Nelson Sauvin crop seems to be particularly marijuana-heavy. Malt character is fairly restrained for a DIPA - would have pegged this as a regular IPA. No alcohol either, just hoppy goodness.

T - Again, it's a ton of citrus flavor, tropical fruits, white grapes, with a touch of herb and chive. A touch of rye spice comes out mid-palate along with crackery malts to support the intense hop flavors. Alcohol is again entirely absent, and this drinks like a 6-7% IPA.

M - Pleasant carbonation, medium body, dry finish, and plenty of residual oily hop resins. Pretty much what you'd want from a West Coast DIPA.

D - A superb beer - I think I had 4-5 pints. Handily the best beer of the trip and one of the best DIPAs ever brewed. It will be criminal if Alpine doesn't make this semi-regularly.

Serving type: on-tap

08-16-2012 18:27:08 | More by MasterSki
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notchucknorris

California

4.98/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

A: Pours a glowing apricot color with a thin tan head.

S: Dear God. This smells amazing. A hyper fragrant mix of mango, grapefruit, marijuana, mint and hop resin. Incredible.

T: Somehow, the taste is just as good as the smell. An absolute atomic bomb of citrus hops that somehow has enough of a malt backbone to keep it somewhat balanced. Hints of tropical fruit, a touch of rye and a ton of resin. This may very well be the best IPA I've ever had.

Serving type: on-tap

08-15-2012 20:47:59 | More by notchucknorris
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AgentZero

Illinois

4.7/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Stole the show at Toronado's 25th Anniversary Party.

A - Bright golden color with some orange in there. Not a ton of head on it, but it left some fairly substantial fine-web lacing.

S - Wow, this is a hop explosion. The initial sniff really just blows you away. It's like they crammed 5x the amount of hops into it that goes into a normal DIPA. Some tropical fruit, tons of resin. The hop oils are so strong and prevalent it almost smells buttery. Amazing.

T - Lots of floral and tropical fruit hops, with citrus, bitterness, cat piss, and a bit of onion. Just a touch of malt, but this is hops all the way. Unlike a lot of overly bitter, hop-bombs, this has very rich and distinct flavors, although they are unbelievably powerful. Great stuff.

M - Medium bodied, good carbonation, very oily.

O - Fantastic beer, one of the best DIPAs I've had in a very long time.

Serving type: on-tap

08-15-2012 19:27:47 | More by AgentZero
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bignuke61

California

4.93/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

On tap at Toronado SD...

Simply everything about Nelson that is fantastic and then doubled. Pours a hazy orange with a small head. It had none of the lasting bitterness of most DIPAs, it had all (and more) of the tropical citrusy aroma of Nelson and had an amazingly smooth drinkability with all of its fruity hop goodness. The rye lends a nice balance and the alcohol is completely hidden.

I could drink many many many of these but had to stop so I could get home at some point. I could not say the same about other DIPAs (even fantastic ones) that tend to really wear me down after one or two.

Serving type: on-tap

08-15-2012 04:36:01 | More by bignuke61
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Sean9689

Illinois

4.48/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

On-tap at Toronado for T25...I drank several of these.

Pours an hazy orange color, white head, spotty lace. An explosion of citrus with some light resin and rye. Really bold with a ton of bitter hops but still remaining smooth. Taste is big on the hops, yet smooth...tons of citrus and light onion with some rye in there as well.

Really smooth and super-drinkable for approaching 9%...this walks all over Pliny (had them side-by-side) and is basically a upper-echelon DIPA. What else would I expect from Alpine? Way to hit a homer while celebrating the legacy of Toronado. Exceptional.

Serving type: on-tap

08-14-2012 04:50:56 | More by Sean9689
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TurdFurgison

Ohio

4.98/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

I had 3 pints of this at the 25th Anniversary event. This was one of the main attractions for me, along with Cable Car Kriek. Initially "Double Nelson"? At least I thought it was named that, if I'm wrong then at the very least it's romantically true.

Bright orange color with little head, at least on my pours. The aroma is outstanding, really among the best IPAs I've had. I was actually VERY impressed with the dank aromas in a growler of regular Nelson I tried the night before, but they managed to add more citrus in this incarnation (plus the resin).

Extremely resinous flavor and mouthfeel, oily textured with carbonation on the lower end. Intense citrus flavors with little-to-none of the extreme bitterness that can sometimes mar an overly hopped beer. Excellent balance with just enough sweetness. The malts were present in flavor but well constrained.

I'm still thinking fondly of this beer several days later. I would love to see this made again (and again).

Serving type: on-tap

08-14-2012 03:39:21 | More by TurdFurgison
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largadeer

California

5/5  rDev +8%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Too many pints consumed at Toronado SF during their anniversary.

Appearance: Pale clear gold with a thin but lasting head.

Smell: The nose on this stuff is massive, somehow even bigger than regular Nelson. An explosion of tropical fruit, gooseberry jam, white grape and orange. Floral, slightly oniony and catty. For a single hop beer, this has a lot of depth.

Palate: Floral and citrus hop flavors up front. Tropical fruit, gooseberry and orange, a touch of onion and white grape. Not much in the way of malt, and sweetness is very impressively reigned-in for such a big beer. Rye does come out a bit mid-palate, contributing an earthy twang that works nicely with the huge nelson hop flavor. The balance here is masterful, making this entirely too quaffable for how strong it is. There's no trace of alcohol, and bitterness is fairly mild in the finish.

Overall: This is every bit as good as I was expecting, and possibly Alpine's best beer to date, which is saying a lot.

Serving type: on-tap

08-13-2012 16:57:37 | More by largadeer
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ehammond1


4.73/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

On Tap

O'Brien's Pub
San Diego, CA

Clear golden with a pillowy off-white head that never fully dies down completely, leaving regular lines of lace down the glass. Gorgeous IPA.

Incredibly strong, dank aroma: marijuana, some pine, orange flesh and zest, some grapefruit, along with distinct rye. I didn't think there was a better smelling IPA of this style than the single Nelson, but this one's even better.

The flavor is also exceptional: dank, sticky marijuana and pine, big notes of grapefruit and citrus zest, some cracker malt, moderate bitterness, and some rye and white fruit character as well. In the moment, this felt like a Bad Boy + Nelson mashup.

Medium bodied with moderate-high carbonation--somewhat sticky.

Astonishingly good beer. I heard a number of hopheads proclaim this their "favorite IPA ever." It's most certainly in the ballpark.

Serving type: on-tap

08-12-2012 01:20:33 | More by ehammond1
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grandmeaulnes

California

4.98/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

8/11/12

On tap at Alpine Brewing Company

A: Straw and gold hue with exceptional clarity and a beautiful, pillowy white head. Fantastic retention.

S: Dank and floral with that somewhat intangible Alpine IPA quality. Strong notes of rye, banana, marijuana, and apricot.

T: Simply fantastic. It's like a fuller, smoother Nelson with barely a trace of alcohol. Citrus, white wine and subtle rye flavors mesh with grapefruit and orange rind, some pine and spruce. HUGE Nelson hops flavors. Smooth drinking, full on the tongue, and a pleasantly dry finish. Remarkably easy drinking for how complex it is.

M: Moderately dry mouthfeel and finish. Coats the palate with lovely resinous flavors.

O: This is the best beer I've had from Alpine and Alpine is my favorite brewery. 'Nuff said. I really hope they brew this again. Glad I got two growlers.

Serving type: on-tap

08-11-2012 20:57:39 | More by grandmeaulnes
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Keene Idea from Alpine Beer Company
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