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Troublesome - Off Color Brewing

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BA SCORE
85
very good

788 Ratings
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Ratings: 788
Reviews: 128
rAvg: 3.78
pDev: 12.17%
Wants: 34
Gots: 94 | FT: 4
Brewed by:
Off Color Brewing visit their website
Illinois, United States

Style | ABV
Gose |  4.30% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: MasterSki on 06-17-2013

Most brewers spend a lot of time and effort keeping lactobacillus out of their breweries; it was the first thing we brought in (it still has to stay in the corner though). We blend together two different beers to make Troublesome. The first is a somewhat uninteresting wheat beer and the second is an overly acidic & funky beer fermented solely with lactobacillus. We blend the two beers together with coriander and salt at the tail end of fermentation to create a mild, lemony tartness and a fuller sensation of mouthfeel. And yes, it's hard to make.

10 IBU
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Ratings: 788 | Reviews: 128
Photo of ta_hagen
5/5  rDev +32.3%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Great Gose, first one and best one so far. It's has no acidity, light bready/wheat grain character. Slight hints of coriander and sea salt. Yummy in my tummy. It has a light body, and a dissipating finish. For sure to grab more!

Photo of rojapa
3/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Not really salty or sour at all, just a low abv wheat beer. Not what I was hoping for.

Photo of galwayjoyce
5/5  rDev +32.3%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Best Gose to introduce someone to the varietal. Gentle, yet unapologetic. Beautifully, and simply...
...complex.

Photo of craftbrew502
3/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Bad after taste. Nothing special

Photo of Zach136
3.89/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Medium clarity yellow, thin to not head/lacing.

Aroma: bready with a hint of coriander and lactic.

Flavor: Virtually no acidity, light bready/wheat grain character. Slight hints of coriander and sea salt.

Mouthfeel: Light bodied, velvety texture. Dissipating finish.

Overall: Fairly true to style, but there's a reason the original style is virtually dead and modern American intense versions are flourishing.

Photo of WineGuy3000
4.3/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Literally just opened the bottle, poured into a wine tumbler.

A: Straw-hued with no real cloudiness. Nice off-white head dissipates fast. Lacing is ok, although the glassware may be affecting that somewhat.

S: A bit of lacto-funk, citrus & brine. Mellow malt grain notes.

T: Sweet & tart. Comes on lemony & leaves with a lingering dry brininess (which is nice). Definitely more lightly tart than truly sour. Could use a bit more aggressive salt on the finish, at least to my palate.

M: Surprisingly substantial. Carb balances nicely against the somewhat heavier-than-expected body. Don't get me wrong, it's not exactly dense, just fuller than the appearance suggests.

O: I tend to like the saltier versions of this style, but this guy delivers a lot of goodness in a balanced package. Darn good, refreshing, a crushable sipper.

Photo of jason_nwx
2.69/5  rDev -28.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

All I got was a weakly flavored, average wheat beer.

Photo of UrbanCaveman
3.99/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle, poured into a snifter at ~45 degrees F.

Appearance: Pours a mildly hazy, very pale straw gold and forms a massive, if somewhat short-lived, white head. This actually looks like a slightly hazy version of (insert any AAL name here).

Smell: Heavy with orange and coriander, accompanied by just a hint of salty wheaten malt, and a mild funk.

Taste: Take a swig of some verging-on-spoiled orange juice and, while holding it in your mouth, tilt your head back a little and pour about half a fast food salt packet into your mouth as well. Then close your mouth and swish. Voila, you have how this beer opens! As it progresses, the orange and salt fade into the background, allowing the musty funk to come more to the forefront, alongside some distinct herbal tones. The finish is a lingering salty funk.

Mouthfeel: Light and effevervescent at first, but there's something about this beer - possibly the way in which the opening taste is so very like partially spoiled OJ, that makes it seem as though it has that sort of filmy, almost stringy quality to it.

Overall: This is a tasty gose. Would repeat.

Photo of jaswilson2
3/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Didn't care for the wheat sour combo

Photo of 1000lbgrizzly
4.1/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

A: Very pale slightly hazy yellow with an army of very fine bubbles ascending. White thin head. Gotta love the artwork.

S: Not much. Coriander, wheat. I feel like it's actually sucking up any ambient fragrances around me and muffling them.

T: My first thought: This better be a gose (I hadn't checked the style beforehand). Everything is faint: faint corn, faint coriander, faint lemony wheat. And it all fades to nothing, just leaving a puzzling dryness different than astringent tannins (this is the salt). Perfect for the style. Just not necessarily for me, although I do love the drinkability.

F: Perfectly fluid, light carbonation that is really only noticeable on the bigger gulps (thank goodness for it, or else this would be down in one mouthful). Genuine crispness.

O: So close to Corona, yet so far away. Super light and drinkable, but has that little edge of real flavor and crispness over the aforementioned macro and others like it. Gose will probably never be a favorite style of mine, but this sample has all the characteristics to make me respect and appreciate the category.

Photo of Glickj
4.62/5  rDev +22.2%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

great with mac n cheese

Photo of drpimento
4.36/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Very good beer. Appearance is traditional with a smallish off-white head that soon settles and a hazy yellow color. Aroma is grain and yeast. On my first sip I got wheat, grain, a little tart & coriander, but no salt. Second sip got all of that but then got a little salt too. Body is just right. Very nice drinking beer. Wouldn't mind another.

Photo of founddrama
3.13/5  rDev -17.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Sought for so long and then it's… ok. I get those salty coriander flavors, and/but reads like a wheat beer so there's that. (Drives it home: I don't much like wheat beers.) Sparkles on the tongue though, and goes pretty well with a beet sandwich.

Photo of rlee1390
3.8/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A-Clear yellow, two finger head that lingers, not much carbonation

S-Wheat, coriander, not much else.

T-Too much coriander, a little wheat. There isn't much else to it.

M-Lighter, crisp and dry.

O-Not sour, lacking in salt, not sure how this gets classified as a gose.

Photo of JamesStreet
3.85/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured on tap at CB&D
Tasted like hot dog water - but in a good way! Not overly salty and the coriander was allowed a little breathing room. Not bad at all.

Photo of adapt313
3.77/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a cloudy light golden color with a solid frothy white head that lingers for a while. Smells like an infected hefeweizen, although not necessarily in a bad way. Grassy, funky wheat, corriander, tart lemon zest, and yogurt. A light saltiness as well. Taste follows the nose pretty well, a funky, spiced wit that got the lacto treatment. I wish there was slightly more tart and slightly less corriander though. Mouthfeel is crisp, appropriate for the style. I wish it was slightly more tart and funky, though I do still really enjoy this beer. I'm not a big wheat beer drinker but this is a go to summertime brew anytime it's around.

Photo of C_hunter1
4.21/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

Nice lemon tartness . Great body and finishes clean

Photo of StevieD77
2.8/5  rDev -25.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Small to medium white creamy head. Hazy pale gold color. Aroma has a slight funky note, but overall is a bit indistinct.
Taste has a slight bite up front. There is a bit of a wild sour nature here, but it is overly tempered by a watery wheaty base. I would like to see more sour and less wheat. There is a faint salty tinge to the finish. Aftersight is fairly flat looking. Just a few spots of soapy cling and a thin ring of retention.
Overall, this is an entry level sour which might make a decent session beer. Stronger sour presence is called for. Decent for what it is intending to be.

Photo of yeaprolly
3/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Outlier detected. Justify rating with a review.

Photo of timothybarney
3/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A little too much coriander--overpowers the flavor, although it's a possible I had a bad batch.

Photo of psoriasaurus
4.25/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Unique spin on a gose. Less bitter/salt and more wheat. Slight, balanced lactobacillus funk. Overall a fairly drinkable and enjoyable beer.

Photo of SurferEric
3.95/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Not as much funk as I'd like in a dour but still drinkable and refreshing.

Photo of superspak
3.8/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ounce bottle into tulip glass, no bottle dating. Pours slightly hazy golden straw color with a 1-2 finger dense and fluffy white head with great retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Nice spotty soapy lacing clings around the glass, with some light streaming carbonation. Aromas of big tart lemon, lime, green apple, white grape, coriander, sea salt, wheat, cracker, bread, herbal, straw, grass, light pepper, and herbal/yeast earthiness. Very nice aromas with good balance and complexity of fruity/earthy yeast, salt/spice, and pale malt notes; with good strength. Taste of lightly tart lemon, lime, green apple, white grape, coriander, sea salt, wheat, cracker, bread, herbal, straw, grass, light pepper, and herbal/yeast earthiness. Slight fruity tartness on the finish; with lingering notes of lemon, lime, green apple, white grape, coriander, sea salt, wheat, cracker, bread, light pepper, and herbal/yeast earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Good balance and complexity of fruity/earthy yeast, salt/spice, and pale malt flavors; with a good malt/tartness balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium carbonation and light-medium bodied; with a very smooth, crisp, and lightly saline/bready mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is well hidden with zero warming present after the finish as expected of 4.3%. Overall this is a very good Gose style. All around good robustness, balance, and complexity of fruity/earthy yeast, salt/spice, and pale malt flavors; and very smooth and crisp to drink. It was not as tart as I was hoping for, but the flavors were very well balanced. A nicely enjoyable offering.

Photo of ghirsh
4.42/5  rDev +16.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Amazing beer. The best part is that it definitely grows on you. It gets better with every sit. I'm new to the sour world, and this one is pretty mellow.

A: Somewhat cloudy from the yeast. Strong yellow color.
S: Bananas, cloves, and a bit of salt
T: AMAZING! Bananas and cloves like a hefeweizen, but not quite as intense. A hint of salt towards the finish. A tiny bit sour, but not too much.
M: Feels a bit crisp, but also bubbly from the carbonation. Interesting blend of mouthfeel, but it's pretty good.
O: Great beer. There are a lot of spot-on qualities. I'll be buying anything I can find in the store from Off Color.

Photo of infuturity83
2.59/5  rDev -31.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

I don't know if I got a bad bottle or something, but this was terrible. Perhaps I'll give it another shot some other time.

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Troublesome from Off Color Brewing
85 out of 100 based on 788 ratings.