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Troublesome - Off Color Brewing

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BA SCORE
85
very good

814 Ratings
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Ratings: 814
Reviews: 137
rAvg: 3.78
pDev: 12.43%
Wants: 36
Gots: 98 | FT: 4
Brewed by:
Off Color Brewing visit their website
Illinois, United States

Style | ABV
Gose |  4.30% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: MasterSki on 06-17-2013

Most brewers spend a lot of time and effort keeping lactobacillus out of their breweries; it was the first thing we brought in (it still has to stay in the corner though). We blend together two different beers to make Troublesome. The first is a somewhat uninteresting wheat beer and the second is an overly acidic & funky beer fermented solely with lactobacillus. We blend the two beers together with coriander and salt at the tail end of fermentation to create a mild, lemony tartness and a fuller sensation of mouthfeel. And yes, it's hard to make.

10 IBU
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Ratings: 814 | Reviews: 137
Photo of dandiprat2015
2.7/5  rDev -28.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Couldn't finish it. Dull. Flat. Gross.

Photo of Qbdoo
3.85/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Tasty beer, light-bodied beer that gets more complex as it warm, though it was hard to hold off sucking it down. It's all yeast and coriander. Crisp in feel but gets creamy and bready as it warms. Reviews here are pretty meh but I'm going back to this beer when I'm looking for a tasty, low ABV beer.

Photo of danbar
2.88/5  rDev -23.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.75

This beer is troublesome in that it is neither sour nor salty. Had this been classified as a wit beer, it would probably get better scores but this has to be the worst gose I have ever had. It has nice carbonation, I will give it that. But only that.

Photo of thampel09
2.88/5  rDev -23.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

Worst attempt at a gose I've ever tasted

Photo of ThisWangsChung
3.43/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle into a teku.

Appearance: Pours a cloudy straw color. The head is a finger high and white in shade. Retention - while not great - is surprisingly long for this kind of beer, and its texture is creamier than normal. Only a little bit of lacing sticks to the glass, though. (3.25)

Smell: Very lactic. There's a strong crabapple bite that invades the nostrils, as well as a touch of coriander. It seems to miss that salty note that other goses have, though. But having said that, this also seems more easy going than the most. We'll see how it tastes... (3.25)

Taste: I get a surprising amount of the "somewhat uninteresting wheat beer" at first. To me, coriander is the dominant note, with only traces of lacto and salt rounding things out. More of the latter qualities appear as more is drunk. The whole thing is restrained, subtle, and balanced - it's not my favorite gose, but I still dig it a whole bunch. (3.5)

Mouthfeel: Very full-bodied for the style. Despite the fullness and the relative sweetness, it remains refreshing and easy to drink. Carbonation is oddly restrained, but it works. (3.5)

Overall: I honestly prefer the very sour yet salty version of the style (think along the lines of Union's Old Pro), but I can certainly appreciate Off Color going for a more 'traditional' and restrained gose. This seems like a beer that will reveal more layers the more I drink it, and that's always a good thing. Naturally, I'll have to buy more of this to find out. (3.5)

3.43/5: Certainly not troubling on the palate

Photo of Wachturm
3.95/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Decent low-ABV beer with flavor.

Photo of mmesce2
2.94/5  rDev -22.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.75

I had a draft at Lucky's wicker park. Super pale and transparent. High head which quickly dissipated. Smells like it will taste quite bitter, virtually no aromatic hops, but a bit of spice (probably coriander ). Tastes a bit sour. Would not have again.

Photo of MarcGetty
3.73/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

BA says this is a Gose which is by definition unfiltered, but this beer is very much filtered. I'm all for style-busting beers, so I'm just sayin' is all.

Quite a bright flavor, a lot like a crystalweiss, but with an added flavor. The label says coriander and lactobacillus, but I can't say for sure what the flavor is like, I just can't figure it out, and that is not a good thing.

Drinkable? Yes. Great? No. Would I purchase again? Probably not.

Photo of pathman
4.75/5  rDev +25.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Great gose. My second beer from Off Color and I'm really enjoying their stuff.

Photo of ta_hagen
5/5  rDev +32.3%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Great Gose, first one and best one so far. It's has no acidity, light bready/wheat grain character. Slight hints of coriander and sea salt. Yummy in my tummy. It has a light body, and a dissipating finish. For sure to grab more!

Photo of rojapa
3/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Not really salty or sour at all, just a low abv wheat beer. Not what I was hoping for.

Photo of galwayjoyce
5/5  rDev +32.3%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Best Gose to introduce someone to the varietal. Gentle, yet unapologetic. Beautifully, and simply...
...complex.

Photo of craftbrew502
3/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Bad after taste. Nothing special

Photo of Zach136
3.89/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Medium clarity yellow, thin to not head/lacing.

Aroma: bready with a hint of coriander and lactic.

Flavor: Virtually no acidity, light bready/wheat grain character. Slight hints of coriander and sea salt.

Mouthfeel: Light bodied, velvety texture. Dissipating finish.

Overall: Fairly true to style, but there's a reason the original style is virtually dead and modern American intense versions are flourishing.

Photo of WineGuy3000
4.3/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Literally just opened the bottle, poured into a wine tumbler.

A: Straw-hued with no real cloudiness. Nice off-white head dissipates fast. Lacing is ok, although the glassware may be affecting that somewhat.

S: A bit of lacto-funk, citrus & brine. Mellow malt grain notes.

T: Sweet & tart. Comes on lemony & leaves with a lingering dry brininess (which is nice). Definitely more lightly tart than truly sour. Could use a bit more aggressive salt on the finish, at least to my palate.

M: Surprisingly substantial. Carb balances nicely against the somewhat heavier-than-expected body. Don't get me wrong, it's not exactly dense, just fuller than the appearance suggests.

O: I tend to like the saltier versions of this style, but this guy delivers a lot of goodness in a balanced package. Darn good, refreshing, a crushable sipper.

Photo of jason_nwx
2.69/5  rDev -28.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

All I got was a weakly flavored, average wheat beer.

Photo of UrbanCaveman
3.99/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle, poured into a snifter at ~45 degrees F.

Appearance: Pours a mildly hazy, very pale straw gold and forms a massive, if somewhat short-lived, white head. This actually looks like a slightly hazy version of (insert any AAL name here).

Smell: Heavy with orange and coriander, accompanied by just a hint of salty wheaten malt, and a mild funk.

Taste: Take a swig of some verging-on-spoiled orange juice and, while holding it in your mouth, tilt your head back a little and pour about half a fast food salt packet into your mouth as well. Then close your mouth and swish. Voila, you have how this beer opens! As it progresses, the orange and salt fade into the background, allowing the musty funk to come more to the forefront, alongside some distinct herbal tones. The finish is a lingering salty funk.

Mouthfeel: Light and effevervescent at first, but there's something about this beer - possibly the way in which the opening taste is so very like partially spoiled OJ, that makes it seem as though it has that sort of filmy, almost stringy quality to it.

Overall: This is a tasty gose. Would repeat.

Photo of jaswilson2
3/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Didn't care for the wheat sour combo

Photo of 1000lbgrizzly
4.1/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

A: Very pale slightly hazy yellow with an army of very fine bubbles ascending. White thin head. Gotta love the artwork.

S: Not much. Coriander, wheat. I feel like it's actually sucking up any ambient fragrances around me and muffling them.

T: My first thought: This better be a gose (I hadn't checked the style beforehand). Everything is faint: faint corn, faint coriander, faint lemony wheat. And it all fades to nothing, just leaving a puzzling dryness different than astringent tannins (this is the salt). Perfect for the style. Just not necessarily for me, although I do love the drinkability.

F: Perfectly fluid, light carbonation that is really only noticeable on the bigger gulps (thank goodness for it, or else this would be down in one mouthful). Genuine crispness.

O: So close to Corona, yet so far away. Super light and drinkable, but has that little edge of real flavor and crispness over the aforementioned macro and others like it. Gose will probably never be a favorite style of mine, but this sample has all the characteristics to make me respect and appreciate the category.

Photo of Glickj
4.62/5  rDev +22.2%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

great with mac n cheese

Photo of drpimento
4.36/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Very good beer. Appearance is traditional with a smallish off-white head that soon settles and a hazy yellow color. Aroma is grain and yeast. On my first sip I got wheat, grain, a little tart & coriander, but no salt. Second sip got all of that but then got a little salt too. Body is just right. Very nice drinking beer. Wouldn't mind another.

Photo of founddrama
3.13/5  rDev -17.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Sought for so long and then it's… ok. I get those salty coriander flavors, and/but reads like a wheat beer so there's that. (Drives it home: I don't much like wheat beers.) Sparkles on the tongue though, and goes pretty well with a beet sandwich.

Photo of rlee1390
3.8/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A-Clear yellow, two finger head that lingers, not much carbonation

S-Wheat, coriander, not much else.

T-Too much coriander, a little wheat. There isn't much else to it.

M-Lighter, crisp and dry.

O-Not sour, lacking in salt, not sure how this gets classified as a gose.

Photo of JamesStreet
3.85/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured on tap at CB&D
Tasted like hot dog water - but in a good way! Not overly salty and the coriander was allowed a little breathing room. Not bad at all.

Photo of adapt313
3.77/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a cloudy light golden color with a solid frothy white head that lingers for a while. Smells like an infected hefeweizen, although not necessarily in a bad way. Grassy, funky wheat, corriander, tart lemon zest, and yogurt. A light saltiness as well. Taste follows the nose pretty well, a funky, spiced wit that got the lacto treatment. I wish there was slightly more tart and slightly less corriander though. Mouthfeel is crisp, appropriate for the style. I wish it was slightly more tart and funky, though I do still really enjoy this beer. I'm not a big wheat beer drinker but this is a go to summertime brew anytime it's around.

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Troublesome from Off Color Brewing
85 out of 100 based on 814 ratings.