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Troublesome - Off Color Brewing

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very good

134 Reviews

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Reviews: 134
Hads: 922
Avg: 3.8
pDev: 31.84%
Wants: 44
Gots: 122 | FT: 5
Brewed by:
Off Color Brewing visit their website
Illinois, United States

Style | ABV
Gose |  4.30% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: MasterSki on 06-17-2013

Most brewers spend a lot of time and effort keeping lactobacillus out of their breweries; it was the first thing we brought in (it still has to stay in the corner though). We blend together two different beers to make Troublesome. The first is a somewhat uninteresting wheat beer and the second is an overly acidic & funky beer fermented solely with lactobacillus. We blend the two beers together with coriander and salt at the tail end of fermentation to create a mild, lemony tartness and a fuller sensation of mouthfeel. And yes, it's hard to make.

10 IBU
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Photo of ta_hagen
5/5  rDev +31.6%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Great Gose, first one and best one so far. It's has no acidity, light bready/wheat grain character. Slight hints of coriander and sea salt. Yummy in my tummy. It has a light body, and a dissipating finish. For sure to grab more!

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Photo of stace
4.8/5  rDev +26.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

I'll update this review once I've had more, these are my initial impressions...

Appearance: slightly cloudy, good head retention. Light straw color.

Smell: Hints of the sour/tartness to come in the taste.

Taste: Just the right mix of tartness and salt. When you're unfamiliar with the style, those words can sound odd, but it really works and this is a great example of the style.

Mouthfeel: Just right. Not to fizzy, very true to style.

Overall: Very impressed with this beer. Very true to style, just the right amount of tart and saltiness. A very refreshing beer on a hot summer day to be sure. Can't wait to have more.

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Photo of MV_CHI-NS
4.78/5  rDev +25.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Appearance: Straw/deep citrine body with a crisp snow/ivory head.

Aroma: Very 'bready' with undercurrents of grain and light spice.

Taste: Spice, grass, anise, coriander, and lemon zest - all carried-through by a bready backbone.

Mouthfeel: Crisp and clean with a fair amount of carbonation; feels a bit flat as it goes down, however.

Overall: My first beer in the 'Gose' style, 'Troublesome' did not disappoint; a friend of mine assured me it was one of the best - particularly for summer. With that said, find some shade and try this - it will surely not disappoint.

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Photo of ocelot2500
4.5/5  rDev +18.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a hazy golden color with a soapy white head that leaves little bits of lacing.

Smells of wheat, coriander, and earthy notes.

Tastes of the sharp wheat notes layered with some salt and spice. Wheat notes lead off. This gives way to some fruity lemon and berry notes. Tart notes come through in the middle before a bit of bready malt. Coriander spice, salt, and earthy hops come towards the end. Finishes fairly dry with a salty linger.

Mouthfeel is medium-light with a crisp amount of carbonation.

Overall, this is a tasty, well-balanced Gose.

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Photo of ghirsh
4.42/5  rDev +16.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Amazing beer. The best part is that it definitely grows on you. It gets better with every sit. I'm new to the sour world, and this one is pretty mellow.

A: Somewhat cloudy from the yeast. Strong yellow color.
S: Bananas, cloves, and a bit of salt
T: AMAZING! Bananas and cloves like a hefeweizen, but not quite as intense. A hint of salt towards the finish. A tiny bit sour, but not too much.
M: Feels a bit crisp, but also bubbly from the carbonation. Interesting blend of mouthfeel, but it's pretty good.
O: Great beer. There are a lot of spot-on qualities. I'll be buying anything I can find in the store from Off Color.

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Photo of Barnoloid
4.4/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

I’m still relatively new to enjoying Gose style beers, but I feel this is a solid representation of this most interesting brew. There is a sourness and funkiness at play here with a citric and salty feel. Enjoyable and thought provoking.

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Photo of emerge077
4.39/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Troublesome is a great base for making beer cocktails. So far, memorable blends have been guanabana, lemon, and passionfruit. Give it a whirl!

Had this again today, two glasses. It was more sour than the first batch, maybe more of the lacto in the mix. Almost citrusy and very juicy, even had a slight tang in the aroma. Everybody ordered one after trying a sip, could drink this all night...upping S/T/M scores. Timeless simplicity, though plenty of nuance also.

Draft pint at Map Room.

Pale straw color, slight haze with a sturdy lasting head of white foam on top. Some slowly rising carb trails visible, copious lacing that leaves a drippy intricate pattern in the glass.

Coriander steals the show aroma-wise, it's the main component, with some light mellow wheatiness in the periphery.

Snappy and crisp, it has a zippy tartness that is extra quenching. Smooth feel, light bodied, notes of coriander and wheat linger in the dry aftertaste. Brisk carbonation scrubs the palate, making this both a summer refresher and excellent palate cleanser when pairing with food. The clean tartness is pleasant and balanced, not extreme. The low abv lends itself extremely well to sessioning. Definitely will be a go-to session beer once it hits shelves in six-packs later this year.

Note: Six packs are $9.99-10.99 in Chicago, if you're paying more you have your local distributor/retailer to thank.

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Photo of drpimento
4.36/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Very good beer. Appearance is traditional with a smallish off-white head that soon settles and a hazy yellow color. Aroma is grain and yeast. On my first sip I got wheat, grain, a little tart & coriander, but no salt. Second sip got all of that but then got a little salt too. Body is just right. Very nice drinking beer. Wouldn't mind another.

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Photo of MUTINY
4.3/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Literally just opened the bottle, poured into a wine tumbler.

A: Straw-hued with no real cloudiness. Nice off-white head dissipates fast. Lacing is ok, although the glassware may be affecting that somewhat.

S: A bit of lacto-funk, citrus & brine. Mellow malt grain notes.

T: Sweet & tart. Comes on lemony & leaves with a lingering dry brininess (which is nice). Definitely more lightly tart than truly sour. Could use a bit more aggressive salt on the finish, at least to my palate.

M: Surprisingly substantial. Carb balances nicely against the somewhat heavier-than-expected body. Don't get me wrong, it's not exactly dense, just fuller than the appearance suggests.

O: I tend to like the saltier versions of this style, but this guy delivers a lot of goodness in a balanced package. Darn good, refreshing, a crushable sipper.

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Photo of BeerFMAndy
4.29/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

12 oz bottle poured into a tulip.
4.3% ABV, 13°P, 10 IBUs

A - The hazy pale straw yellow beer struggles to retain it's fluffy white head beyond the halo of loose bubbles it disintegrates but it comes as no surprise with lactobacillus, a souring agent, at the helm.

S - The "secret ingredient", coriander, along with salty notes, gives the nose a nice spicy bite but doesn't draw as much attention as it's other "secret" friend, Lactobacillus; the reason for the slightly funky and deliciously tart aroma. Soft wheat and simple pale malt comprise a gentle base for the unique funk to spring off of.

T - Almost like a slightly soured witbier, Troublesome has a prolific, tasty wheat profile with delicate coriander spice, which imparts a touch of lemony citrus, and slight saltiness on the finish.

M - Carbonation dances on the tongue but this wheat beer is incredibly smooth with delicate tartness that's overcome by gentle lingering saltiness and coriander spice for a refreshing, thirst-quenching finish.

O - If it weren't for the tart and acidic addition of lactobacillus, Troublesome would be very witbier-esque as it's bountiful with soft wheat and coriander spice but this German-style Gose makes for an incredibly easy drinking, crisp and refreshing brew!

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Photo of SammyJaxxxx
4.28/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured from a 12 Oz bottle with a great label. (am I allowed to figure the label into my rating for appearance? )

A: Fantastic golden hue nice fluffy head that dissipates pretty quickly and leaves decent lacing. And the label has a mouse in a raccoon suit
s: Corriander, a little sour and bananas
T: a nice combination of slight sour spices malts but where is the salt?
MF: Crisp and clean
O: First sniff was great and I originally a little disappointed with the taste. As it warmed it improved and I was quite impressed. It is a Gose and I an still looking for some salt though. Oh yeah and a great label.

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Photo of hopsputin
4.26/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

a: very hazy light yellow in color. very bright. 1/2 finger white head that fades to just some lacing

s: wheat aroma hits you right away. some big malt and berry sweetness that you get in some weizens. more wheat and a bunch of coriander, and a hint of cardamom. slightly like apple juice

t: this is my first Gose, and its quite an interesting brew. wheat and coriander upfront. that fades into some sweet malts and berries. this is then balanced out by the salt. its so interesting the salt incorporated in here. its not 'salty' but you do get a little bit of sharpness from it which makes it extremely refreshing

m: despite the lack of head here, its pretty highly carbonated. a nice amount to help the sweetness and salt sharpness pop

o: like this much more than i thought i would, not being a salt person. its extremely tasty, and super refreshing - but doesn't have any overpowering flavors. nicely harmonized

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Photo of ZoomanCru
4.26/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Troublesome – Spiced Wheat Beer (4.3%) - Off Color Brewing (Illinois)

App: Solid golden pour with slight greenish hues to the extremities of the glass. Head is very thin. Weak ring of bubbles clings to the edge. No lacing at all.

Smell: Aroma is bright, grainy, and slightly sour with some strong aroma of lemon and a slight pepper like characteristic. Definitely got that sour twinge high in the nose.

Taste: Taste is bright, with a cider like acetic quality that shines through. Coriander lends a slight spiciness which compliments the semi-dry finish very nicely. Almost akin in acidity to white grape juice, with a similar puckering quality. The thing that makes this beer great is the finale. After the initial hints of white pepper, lemon and grainy sweetness, the hops bitterness appears and mingles with a lacto sourness long after the swallow. This might be the ultimate porch on a hot summer afternoon beer. Top notch.

Mouth: Medium bodied but slightly slick. Slightly dry and spicy in the aftertaste. Carbonation is overall very low, but this brew never feels oily or like it's sticking to your tongue.

Home tasting, 12oz bottle into Snifter. 4/9/14.

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Photo of sweemzander
4.19/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

12oz. bottle poured into a tulip.

(A)- Pours a clear pale yellow color. Some decent white froth that dissipated quickly.

(S)- A light honey wheat grain and lemon peel aroma. A very slight spiciness at the end. Hints of underlying tartness.

(T)- Pretty much just like the smell. It has a lightness to it with a honey wheat like grainy yeast meets subtle salty spiced lemon rind. Ever so slight tartness to it.

(M)- A great balanced carbonation level and feel overall. Definitely light and a crisp easy drinking character. As it warmed, the salty spice becomes more prevalent.

(O)- Gose is still a bit new to me only having tried a few of them, but this is really enjoyable and best consumed colder than room temperature.

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Photo of ONovoMexicano
4.18/5  rDev +10%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Served in a snifter from a 12 ounce bottle.

Two fingers of thick pale head form over the body. Chewy and foamy. The body is cloudy and pale golden in color. 4.5

Big notes of coriander, wheat, light lemon and a touch of salt. Faintly sweet. 4.5

Sweet wheat and coriander are dominant, but light salt and faint tartness round out the flavor. 4

Very enjoyable to drink. Mostly sweet, but not cloying, with a touch of spice feel. Tartness is faint but provides a good balance towards the finish. Salt dries the beer out a bit. 4.25

This is enjoyable to drink. Sweet witbier with a touch of salt and tartness. If you like your gose closer to a sour, this may not do it for you, but it's a good brew.

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Photo of Etan
4.18/5  rDev +10%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

On tap at the open house.

A: Pours a slightly hazed mellow straw color with a nice white head.

S: Big lactic note in the aroma. Yogurty, a hint of pleasant acid, mild bready aroma behind.

T: Taste is a bit more complex. Cakey wheat malt, a bit of witbier-like spice (cloves, coriander), ever-so-mild lactic tartness.

M: Light-bodied with active yet smooth carbonation.

O: Definitely my favorite beer of the night. A bit of sweetness mixed with the mild tartness makes this interesting, yet it remains drinkable and moreish. Looking forward to this in distributed format.

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Photo of patre_tim
4.18/5  rDev +10%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A: Honey gold and cloudy with lots of large and medium sized bubbles both within floating upward and clinging to the surface of the glass. 3 fingers of candy glass yellow head fades fast.

S: Corriander, sea salt, a briny breeze. A slight funky sour note. Quite Hoegaarden like.

T: Very briny and salty like sea water, and then sour, then fresh cut fruit, melons and lemon, slightly floral as well. Coriander is in there for sure as well.

M: Medium thick body, briny, medium low carbonation.

O: Well done brew. I am drinking this in the Chicago area tonight, August 12th, 2014. First saw this on Beer Temple with Chris Quinn from Chicago, when it apparently was not yet in bottles. Got this bottle in Asheville, NC and have been carrying it with me. I thought it was appropriate. Love this one. Perhaps my favourite of the Gose’s so far.

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Photo of notchucknorris
4.13/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A: Pours a pale golden color with just a faint touch of haze to it. A one finger bone white head settles fairly quickly, but each sip yields some nice tracks of lace.

S: Doughy malt, lemon, yeast and a touch of salt. The last gose I had was Westbrook's Gozu and the smell on that one absolutely rockets from this glass. Compared to that, this is almost devoid of smell at all. Still, what's there is pleasant.

T: Lemon, a touch of coriander and some ginger right away. The middle hovers between a sort of grainy, grassy hop bitterness and a salty sourness. Finish shows a kiss of salt, wheat and some grainy sweetness. Ends very clean. I could definitely drink a lot of this.

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Photo of tastybeer
4.1/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Bright orange color, medium white head. Aroma is sweet, peppery, spicy, flowery, and generally pleasant. Very likable thus far.... Taste is crisply dry, floral and spice, nice white bread malty, and well balanced. Just a touch of salt makes things interesting. No overwhelming flavors and nicely light. Perfect for Spring and very easy to drink.

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Photo of 1000lbgrizzly
4.1/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

A: Very pale slightly hazy yellow with an army of very fine bubbles ascending. White thin head. Gotta love the artwork.

S: Not much. Coriander, wheat. I feel like it's actually sucking up any ambient fragrances around me and muffling them.

T: My first thought: This better be a gose (I hadn't checked the style beforehand). Everything is faint: faint corn, faint coriander, faint lemony wheat. And it all fades to nothing, just leaving a puzzling dryness different than astringent tannins (this is the salt). Perfect for the style. Just not necessarily for me, although I do love the drinkability.

F: Perfectly fluid, light carbonation that is really only noticeable on the bigger gulps (thank goodness for it, or else this would be down in one mouthful). Genuine crispness.

O: So close to Corona, yet so far away. Super light and drinkable, but has that little edge of real flavor and crispness over the aforementioned macro and others like it. Gose will probably never be a favorite style of mine, but this sample has all the characteristics to make me respect and appreciate the category.

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Photo of BEERchitect
4.08/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Troublesome in that wheat beers want to be "Wheat", and that sour beers want to be "Sour", and that spiced beers want to be "Spiced". But it doesn't come so easily as this revisit to a historic style of beer might seem avant garde to the uninitiated imbiber, but to those in the know of Gose understands its spicy, wheaty and sour ways.

With the delivery of the pour, its hazy canary-yellow glows with supple diffusion as light captures hues of gold and straw. Shedding a creamy sheet of foam, the ale trails with dissected necklaces of lace.

Its tangy, citrusy and bready aromas come with notions of sea brine, cork-like must and sweat. Enticing with an earthen scent of weathered woods, perhaps of attic and basement- a scent of dried lime, lemon and orange peels all float above a taste of sugar and shortcake to suggest the scent of "warheads" candy.

Its taste is much more firmly rooted in ale character as its sweetness is of light bread, sugar cookie and confectioners sweetness. But that lavish party is cut short as the middle opens with citursy tartness, fading bread, and a nod to iron and plaster in its tangy finish.

Semi-dry in its mouthfeel, its early creaminess is bready, lofty and lightened. But as the bubbles dissolve on the palate, a dry tartness takes hold- leading to slight warmth, acidic twang and soft powdery astringency.

Off Color's revival of Gose is a discovery of taste and the mind and the palate is transported to a time that's perhaps unimaginable. Yet this beer exists in all its wheaty, sour and minerally demeanor!

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Photo of KFBR392
4.07/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: Cloudy straw yellow color. Good active carbonation while drinking. Half a finger of head on the pour and stuck around while drinking.

Smell: Sweet creamy malt mixes well with some lightly funky sour tones. Grassy airy hop tones on the body with just a touch of wheat and oats. Orange peel and coriander are noticeable on the body. That sweet dairy tones linger throughout and are truly unique.

Taste: Lush, creamy front of sweet wheat and oats hit the palate first. Buttery yeast body warms up on the body and some lightly tart, effectively funky, salty, sourness adds an extra punch. Spiced tones with accents of coriander round out the taste.

Mouthfeel: Wonderful balance of tartness, dry oats, and sweet lactose. Carbonation adds to the creamy mouthfeel.

Overall: My first Gose style beer but there is no doubt this is an excellently crafted brew. Multiple layers and interesting complexity keep the drinker on their toes. Hopefully I can get my hands on more stuff from Off Color.

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Photo of tomciu
4.04/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

This was my first goes and didn't know what to exactly expect. I must say that this beer is deliciously refreshing. The sourness was present bit not at all overpowering. Very slightly tart with some coriander, tang, and wheat/earthiness coming through. Head was thin and lacing was thin too. It was missing something taste wise. Was a very pleasant straw yellow with lots of carbonation. Carbonation seemed right for the style but could have been calmed down a little. Overall a very good beer and look forward to drinking it this summer.

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Photo of smakawhat
4.04/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured from the bottle into a wheat ale glass.

Slightly opaque but a neat hue to this beer. Deep brass green with lemon edges, a nice little amount of view shows off the carbonation nicely. Head is fleeting at about three fingers, even pinhead bubbled and falls easily to a simple puck.

Real nice nose. Lemon and some briny salt tartness. Some dried spiced notes but a little buried. Sweet breaded bakery malts. Quite a nice bouquet.

Palate comes real nicely. Matching dough bread sweetness, mild salinity a bit and kind of grassy notes in the mid palate. Palate feel is a bit wet though, but flavors still manage to be captured. Big on the dough on the finish, but not so much chewy and popping texture. Little bit of lemon and flat soda on the front and mid palate as well.

Overall a pretty enjoyable and solid brew.

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Photo of atr2605
4.04/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-pours a transparent straw color with a white head that fades rather quickly
S-wheat, a bit of funk, lemon
T-lemon, spiciness from the coriander, with wheat flavor following and lemon lingering in the bitterness
M-light bodied and crisp, very refreshing
O-really drinkable and refreshing beer

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Troublesome from Off Color Brewing
85 out of 100 based on 134 ratings.