Troublesome | Off Color Brewing

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BA SCORE
86
very good
145 Reviews
BEER STATS
Reviews:
145
Ratings:
964
Avg:
3.81
pDev:
30.97%
 
 
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TroublesomeTroublesome
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Off Color Brewing
Illinois, United States | website

Style: Gose

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 4.30%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
Most brewers spend a lot of time and effort keeping lactobacillus out of their breweries; it was the first thing we brought in (it still has to stay in the corner though). We blend together two different beers to make Troublesome. The first is a somewhat uninteresting wheat beer and the second is an overly acidic & funky beer fermented solely with lactobacillus. We blend the two beers together with coriander and salt at the tail end of fermentation to create a mild, lemony tartness and a fuller sensation of mouthfeel. And yes, it's hard to make.

10 IBU

Added by MasterSki on 06-17-2013

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Reviews: 145 | Ratings: 964
Photo of DJChaseTheBase
3.67/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Had on draft in a 16oz Mason Jar @ Pub Royale Chicago. This Gose had a light yellow with a minimal haze look to it. This was a nice sour beer before a spicy meal and after a spicy meal. This was a nice change of pace than the typical IPA,BPA, APA's that I float too. Very nice local Chicago beer and look forward to trying more of Off Color's styles.

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Photo of mtomlins
4.18/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Big thanks to UncleJazz for the bottle.

Pours a hay color, hazy with a short fizzy head with limited retention but with a bit of lacing. Nice wheat, spice, coriander nose. The taste is light wheat, spice, mild sour notes, briney not salty, coriander and some sweet malt. The mouthfeel is nice and light with lively carbonation and clean, crisp finish. This is a really nice version of the style and unsure why it's not rated higher.

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Photo of spacecake9
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I made a vow to drink more local beer and Off Color is a good one.
Poured into a snifter.
A - Pours a somewhat hazy yellow with a small white that settles to a ring pretty quickly.
S - The aroma is subtle, some lemon and yeast.
T - Flavor is tart, lemony, a little grassy with a bit of salt.
M - Light, crisp, refreshing with medium carbonation.
O - This is my first Gose so I am rating to flavor more than style. I am not a sour fan so I'm glad this is tart rather than sour. Very refreshing and tasty, I see myself buying a lot more of this one.

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Photo of Nachojon
4.36/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

No idea how this beer doesn't have higher ratings here. Exceptional in every way. I feel like reviewers here need to take some time to rate to style and to try to really appreciate the intricacies in a beer. The crispness, the mellow tart, the way the carbonation perfectly enhances the salt.

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Photo of BeerWithMike
4.11/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Sampled back on 3/7/16. Single bottle bought for $3.99 at the local Hy-Vee. Bottle chilled down to 36 degrees F in my beer cooler and poured in to a vintage "MICHELOB FINE ALES" flute glass.

Pours a hazy golden-yellow in color with a 1-finger fizzy white head. Decent lacing was seen when sipped. Aroma is of some lemon zest, yeast with a mild hint of vinegar. taste follows the nose and is a tad sour/tart with a hint of salt, BUT I liked it. Lighter-bodied with decent carbonation. Overall, a decent brew which I would try again.

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Photo of smcolw
3.81/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Pours pale and cloudy. Sour smell and this carries through to the taste. The aftertaste taste continues this. A good farmhouse ale. I only sampled this but felt it would do well against similar saisons.

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Photo of Beginner2
3.85/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Let us now praise unusual styles.
Or at least let me now praise an unusual (and hilarious) brewer who is very venturesome to take on a style that is an acquired taste in even the region that spawned it.
To someone unfamiliar with how Germans make things sour, this is a very strange beer.
I had a few German gose and never really got used to it.
I got closer with the Troublesome rendition.
But the conditions were right. It was a hot summer day and I was not thinking about food.
Will I drink this again? Probably only under the right conditions.
But bravo for the effort.

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Photo of Trevor11
4.25/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A solid beer that reminds me of Goose Island's Sofie or Allagash white in some regards. It is a hazy yellow with decent head and some lacing. Has a lemony, citrus overtones and with a little zing/tang at the endnotes. This is an enjoyable beer, but doesn't really blow your hair back

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Photo of Evilyak
3.78/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

straw colored, with a mild head and some haze.

smell holds some hints to this one, but it's more in terms of how subtle the aromas are. there's some lemony tartness and a touch of funk. nothing shouting out for attention here.

taste is equally as mild. even the saltiness is reserved.

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Photo of kalosjakar
3.77/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Hazy straw colored with a bubbly white head.

Smelling yeast mostly, bready biscuit, maybe a bit of lemon.

Tastes like a belgian wheat beer to be honest. I keep finding myself wanting more salt in the Gose ive been trying, ever since I had Anderson Valley Blood Orange Gose.

This stuff is pretty tasty. Slightly tart, a bit of funk. It leans more to the wheat side though.

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Photo of SLeffler27
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours clear golden straw (SRM 2-3) with a half-inch, fine white head. The head is short lived, leaving boney lace on a Steigle stange while carbonation drifts within.

The aroma contains coriander and faint old leather. The best descriptor would be that the aromas are delicate.

a drying finish.

The palate has spritzy carbonation paired with a light body and a silky texture. Alcohol is absent in this refreshing Gose.

This beer reminds me of a foggy day along the New England coast, relaxing and a bit melancholy.

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Photo of baconfromwalmart
3.95/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

L: Clear light golden straw color with a little head that quickly dissipated.
S: Belgian yeast and a bit of funk. Just noticed that the label lists lactobacillus as an incredient.
T: Light and refreshing, crisp with a nice coriander flavor. The teeniest, slightest hint of tartness at the very end. I was expecting more from the nose.
O: I had no idea this was a gose until I looked at its BA page. Great for a wit but definitely lacking the sourness I associate with goses.

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Photo of NolaHopHead
3.53/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle. Pours clear straw golden with no head. Wheaty aroma, coriander. The taste is light cracker malt with a touch of tartness, coriander and banana. Semi dry wheat bread finish. Not getting much salt, maybe a touch. Thin to medium, crisp mouthfeel. Overall light refreshing wheat beer with mild hef flavors.

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Photo of ThrewRedButter
2.91/5  rDev -23.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.75

L - Transparent pee-colored yellow. No head. Ok carbonation.

S - Bready, coriander, slight banana, little bit of salt, odd sourness, pilsner malt

T - Wheat, bready notes, not sour in a good way as bacteria not making this tart and neither is the salt

F - Light, not all that refreshing thanks to odd sour character

O - Not repulsive, but there are so many better Goses out there.

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Photo of BranfordBound
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Drank last night out of a snifter glass from the 12 oz bottle. Pours a lovely straw color with good haze all around, decent head that eventually fades. Pretty normal aroma, some sweet malts and a bit of sea water from the salt, a touch of belgian spice. Pretty good flavor, but it errs on the side of the spices rather than the salty tartness that is typical of the style. Starts sweet, spice and coriander in the middle, finishes a hair tart with barely any discernible saltiness. Feels super light and easy to drink, smooth. Overall a tasty beer, just missing the mark for a true Gose.

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Photo of TheManiacalOne
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a US tumbler pint glass.

A: The beer is a light gold color with a thin white head that fades quickly and leaves a thin lace on the glass.

S: The aroma contains sour lemon, wheat, light caramelized malts and a touch of spice.

T: The taste starts out bready with flavors of wheat and a thin malt character. Then some tart lemony citrus flavor comes in along with a hint of coriander spice. The hops presence is very mild as expected and brings some balance. The after-taste is slightly bready and slightly tart.

M: Crisp and a little smooth, light-to-medium body, medium carbonation, finish is clean.

O: A little tasty, goes down easily, not too filling, very mild kick, good representation of style but seems more like a Witbier, it’s a decent beer to drink for a while if you’re in the mood for they style.

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Photo of barnzy78
3.41/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle, no apparent freshness date
A - hazy and pale yellow with a thinner white head
S - mild nose with some earthy hops, wheat, and coriander
T - tart, sweet, and slightly sour with lemon, coriander, wheat, earthy hops, faint salt, and the oats actually come through as well
M - lighter body, finishes semi-tart, and puckeringly very dry
O - very refreshing with some good flavors. I may try this again. I feel like I should have enjoyed it more than I did.

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Photo of atr2605
4.04/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-pours a transparent straw color with a white head that fades rather quickly
S-wheat, a bit of funk, lemon
T-lemon, spiciness from the coriander, with wheat flavor following and lemon lingering in the bitterness
M-light bodied and crisp, very refreshing
O-really drinkable and refreshing beer

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Photo of MaximalC
3.66/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

Pours an extremely murky, lemony-straw color with a thin skim of white foam that rapidly devolves into and island of frogspawn. Aroma is mildly tangy, with coriander and a kick of barnyard.

The taste is much more mild and wheaty than the aroma would suggest. Tartness is almost nonexistent until the finish. Coriander dresses the wheat backbone, while the yeast lends some Belgian character. Light body and fine carbonation yield a loose mouthfeel that only barely holds it together.

This is a curious beer indeed. It comes across as something of a hybrid between witbier and saison, which isn’t a bad thing--it’s just not what I expected. It would probably be fantastic on a hot summer day, though I do wish the mouthfeel was a little more substantive.

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Photo of ajm5108
3.8/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Fantastic looking beer with brilliant golden hue & a perfect amount of head. But it ends there, unfortunately. Sea salt & summer wheat malt on the nose but it is light & faint. Taste definitely has the coriander spice, but the wheat malt was very bland and rote. There is a little bit of the salty tang of the Gose style but it soft and doesnt blend well with the heavy spice & stale malt. Not bad, but with a bevy of Goses out there these days it isnt one to track down

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Photo of constantine_272
3.96/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Brilliant gold with a touch of haze. I left a lot of yeast at the bottom if the bottle so yours may be more hazy given more jostling. A finger of white head dissipated to a few dots quickly. Medium low carbonation. Smells yeasty and mineral and earthy with an undertone of sweetness reminiscent of honey. Taste is a lot lighter and crisp than the nose gives way to. It starts off sweet and malty but quickly transitions to light and buttery and oaky like a chardonnay or a pinot gris. Tanginess continues with a semi sweet Meyer lemon and a cantaloupe orange note. Finishes slightly dry and salty and tingly from the hidden carbonation. A little to dry if you ask me. The dryness doesn't match the fruity flavor profile. Overall still rather good. Nice, light, refreshing and yet still complex. I wish there were more well developed lighter beers out there like this.

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Photo of LeRose
3.89/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from 12 oz. bottle into pint glass.

The beer was slightly hazy, but a pleasant golden/brassy color. A short-lived foamy head that fell to a thin layer quickly. Constant stream of little bubbles kept the foam layer fed. As the beer warmed a few degrees it became crystal clear.

Aroma - it seemed a bit bland and non-descript to me. A little bit of lemon, a little bready, and a hint of peppery spice. Not much else - weakest point for me.

Taste - the tartness took me by surprise - noticed it immediately,but it is not strongly acidic. Just a bit tart. Then a breadiness and lemon, a bit of sweetness, followed by peppery spice notes, mild coriander. I did get the salty and sweet. Pleasant balance between the salt and sweet. The salt - to me it lingered and emerged more after the sip.

Mouthfeel - the carbonation seemed pretty lively on the tongue. There's almost a chalky feel that I find hard to describe - it's not "thick", maybe a mineral feel from the salt. Overall medium bodied and dry finish. Actually quite drying after the fact, but oddly thirst quenching during consumption. The salt and spice notes did linger. I don't know how much salt is supposed to be in a Gose...seemed like this one had plenty. Don't consume a lot of salt, so possibly I notice it more.

Overall, I like the flavors and how this beer drinks. The flavors are nicely "stacked" one on top of the other. I don't know why the aroma seemed so light to my nose. ^The level of acidity is pleasant and is counterpointed by the sweetness. The lemon notes and spice character play well. Other than the clarity, the flavor so are suitable to the style.

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Photo of SammyJaxxxx
4.28/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured from a 12 Oz bottle with a great label. (am I allowed to figure the label into my rating for appearance? )

A: Fantastic golden hue nice fluffy head that dissipates pretty quickly and leaves decent lacing. And the label has a mouse in a raccoon suit
s: Corriander, a little sour and bananas
T: a nice combination of slight sour spices malts but where is the salt?
MF: Crisp and clean
O: First sniff was great and I originally a little disappointed with the taste. As it warmed it improved and I was quite impressed. It is a Gose and I an still looking for some salt though. Oh yeah and a great label.

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Photo of ocelot2500
4.5/5  rDev +18.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a hazy golden color with a soapy white head that leaves little bits of lacing.

Smells of wheat, coriander, and earthy notes.

Tastes of the sharp wheat notes layered with some salt and spice. Wheat notes lead off. This gives way to some fruity lemon and berry notes. Tart notes come through in the middle before a bit of bready malt. Coriander spice, salt, and earthy hops come towards the end. Finishes fairly dry with a salty linger.

Mouthfeel is medium-light with a crisp amount of carbonation.

Overall, this is a tasty, well-balanced Gose.

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Photo of Myotus
3.71/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a Mikasa weizen glass.
LOOK: Pours with a half finger's worth of white foam that shrinks to a quarter's worth within 30 seconds. Pale straw yellow in color with a subtle cloudiness. Bubbles are in abundance with moderate lacing.
SMELL: Has mild aromas of wheat malts, coriander, and sweetness from pilsner malts that combine with subtle aromas of salt, spicy hops, and sour and earthy yeast.
TASTE: Initial taste is of mild salt (I'm so glad the salt is more perceivable in tatse than smell), coriander, and wheat malt flavors. Mild sweet flavors from pilsner malts enter immediately after along with subtle spicy hop and earthy yeast (no sour yeast can be tasted, that's disappointing) as all previous flavors persist in magnitude except for coriander, which fades from mild to subtle.
FEEL: Light-bodied, subtly carbonated, and very crisp. The coriander along with the spicy hops and salt agitate the tongue in a tickling manner. It's quite pleasant.
NOTE: This was a really good beer, but not a good gose. The flavors simply weren't strong enough.

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Troublesome from Off Color Brewing
86 out of 100 based on 145 ratings.