Troublesome - Off Color Brewing

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BA SCORE
85
very good

846 Ratings
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Ratings: 846
Reviews: 146
rAvg: 3.78
pDev: 12.43%
Wants: 37
Gots: 101 | FT: 5
Brewed by:
Off Color Brewing visit their website
Illinois, United States

Style | ABV
Gose |  4.30% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: MasterSki on 06-17-2013

Most brewers spend a lot of time and effort keeping lactobacillus out of their breweries; it was the first thing we brought in (it still has to stay in the corner though). We blend together two different beers to make Troublesome. The first is a somewhat uninteresting wheat beer and the second is an overly acidic & funky beer fermented solely with lactobacillus. We blend the two beers together with coriander and salt at the tail end of fermentation to create a mild, lemony tartness and a fuller sensation of mouthfeel. And yes, it's hard to make.

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Photo of terence
2.79/5  rDev -26.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.75

This one is okay. I don't pick up much of the coriander and salt. It tastes and feels more like a wit than a gose. It is pretty easy drinking, a lot of carbonation. Thin body with very little after taste.

Nothing I would write home about. I'm don't think I'll be drinking this one again.

Photo of BeerAdvocate
4.03/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From BeerAdvocate Magazine #88 (May 2014):

Lemony, Salty, Refreshing

A twist on the Gose style as it’s a blend of two beers; a wheat beer and funkified, acidic beer with coriander and salt added during fermentation. The result? A pale, slightly hazy, yellow, thin laced beer with acidic suggestions in the nose, and funk and wheat in the background. Fizzy, prickly carbonation with a firm mouthfeel, a bit breadiness, touch of sweetness, tart, lemony bite, and lingering coriander and salt. A very thirst inducing and quenching experience, without the over-the-top acidic burn found in too many sours.

STYLE: Gose | ABV: 4.5% | AVAILABILITY: Year-round

Photo of BeeryMcbeerenstein
3.88/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

I want my Gose to be subtle, but I don't really taste the salt or the tartness from the lacto at all. This feels like a pretty solid wit, but definitely not a Gose.

Photo of anon8312
1.52/5  rDev -59.8%
look: 3 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 4 | overall: 1.5

good wheat beer but terrible gose
no sour, coriander, salt or much of anything

Photo of ISO1600
3.66/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Honestly if you gave me this in a glass and didn't tell me what it was, I would think it's just a wheat beer. Not sour, not tart, not salty.
It's a totally decent beer, but if you're looking for an exciting Gose, keep moving.

Photo of Mnigro
2.04/5  rDev -46%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 1 | feel: 3 | overall: 1

If I could rate a beer based on look, smell, and mouthfeel this one would do ok. Unfortunately for this beer, i base my ratings on taste. This is an absolute turd of a Gose. At $10 a 4 pack too - to say I am unimpressed is an understatement. Barely any salt, some coriander, zero sour profile. Terrible Gose.

The smell is there, murky straw color, good carbonation too.

Photo of mnbrewery
3.85/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

It seemed to be more of a witbier. Not sour or tangy. I get the salt, very slightly.

Photo of Myotus
4.32/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle (no date) into a weizen glass. Pours with a fingers worth of white foam that dissipated into a half fingers worth within 15 seconds then maintains. Not sure what color to call this. Some sort of pale, faded, murky yellow. Bubbles are mild, but can hardly be seen because of how extremely murky the beer is. Has strong aromas of coriander, lemon, and salt with mild malt aromas (sour and wheat). Hop aromas can barely be detected. Initial taste is strong with coriander, lemon, and salt. Initial flavors persist as a blend of mild malt flavors enter onto the palate. Mouthfeel is light, crisp, and refreshing. Carbonation is perfect. Beer leaves mouth slightly dry. This is simply an outstanding gose and an amazing beer.

Photo of dandiprat2015
2.7/5  rDev -28.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Couldn't finish it. Dull. Flat. Gross.

Photo of Qbdoo
3.85/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Tasty, light-bodied beer that gets more complex as it warms, though it was hard to hold off sucking it down. It's all yeast and coriander. Crisp in feel but gets creamy and bready as it warms. Reviews here are pretty meh but I'm going back to this beer when I'm looking for a tasty, low ABV beer.

Photo of danbar
2.88/5  rDev -23.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.75

This beer is troublesome in that it is neither sour nor salty. Had this been classified as a wit beer, it would probably get better scores but this has to be the worst gose I have ever had. It has nice carbonation, I will give it that. But only that.

Photo of thampel09
2.88/5  rDev -23.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

Worst attempt at a gose I've ever tasted

Photo of ThisWangsChung
3.43/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle into a teku.

Appearance: Pours a cloudy straw color. The head is a finger high and white in shade. Retention - while not great - is surprisingly long for this kind of beer, and its texture is creamier than normal. Only a little bit of lacing sticks to the glass, though. (3.25)

Smell: Very lactic. There's a strong crabapple bite that invades the nostrils, as well as a touch of coriander. It seems to miss that salty note that other goses have, though. But having said that, this also seems more easy going than the most. We'll see how it tastes... (3.25)

Taste: I get a surprising amount of the "somewhat uninteresting wheat beer" at first. To me, coriander is the dominant note, with only traces of lacto and salt rounding things out. More of the latter qualities appear as more is drunk. The whole thing is restrained, subtle, and balanced - it's not my favorite gose, but I still dig it a whole bunch. (3.5)

Mouthfeel: Very full-bodied for the style. Despite the fullness and the relative sweetness, it remains refreshing and easy to drink. Carbonation is oddly restrained, but it works. (3.5)

Overall: I honestly prefer the very sour yet salty version of the style (think along the lines of Union's Old Pro), but I can certainly appreciate Off Color going for a more 'traditional' and restrained gose. This seems like a beer that will reveal more layers the more I drink it, and that's always a good thing. Naturally, I'll have to buy more of this to find out. (3.5)

3.43/5: Certainly not troubling on the palate

Photo of Wachturm
3.95/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Decent low-ABV beer with flavor.

Photo of mmesce2
2.94/5  rDev -22.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.75

I had a draft at Lucky's wicker park. Super pale and transparent. High head which quickly dissipated. Smells like it will taste quite bitter, virtually no aromatic hops, but a bit of spice (probably coriander ). Tastes a bit sour. Would not have again.

Photo of MarcGetty
3.73/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

BA says this is a Gose which is by definition unfiltered, but this beer is very much filtered. I'm all for style-busting beers, so I'm just sayin' is all.

Quite a bright flavor, a lot like a crystalweiss, but with an added flavor. The label says coriander and lactobacillus, but I can't say for sure what the flavor is like, I just can't figure it out, and that is not a good thing.

Drinkable? Yes. Great? No. Would I purchase again? Probably not.

Photo of pathman
4.75/5  rDev +25.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Great gose. My second beer from Off Color and I'm really enjoying their stuff.

Photo of ta_hagen
5/5  rDev +32.3%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Great Gose, first one and best one so far. It's has no acidity, light bready/wheat grain character. Slight hints of coriander and sea salt. Yummy in my tummy. It has a light body, and a dissipating finish. For sure to grab more!

Photo of rojapa
3/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Not really salty or sour at all, just a low abv wheat beer. Not what I was hoping for.

Photo of galwayjoyce
5/5  rDev +32.3%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Best Gose to introduce someone to the varietal. Gentle, yet unapologetic. Beautifully, and simply...
...complex.

Photo of craftbrew502
3/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Bad after taste. Nothing special

Photo of Zach136
3.89/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Medium clarity yellow, thin to not head/lacing.

Aroma: bready with a hint of coriander and lactic.

Flavor: Virtually no acidity, light bready/wheat grain character. Slight hints of coriander and sea salt.

Mouthfeel: Light bodied, velvety texture. Dissipating finish.

Overall: Fairly true to style, but there's a reason the original style is virtually dead and modern American intense versions are flourishing.

Photo of WineGuy3000
4.3/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Literally just opened the bottle, poured into a wine tumbler.

A: Straw-hued with no real cloudiness. Nice off-white head dissipates fast. Lacing is ok, although the glassware may be affecting that somewhat.

S: A bit of lacto-funk, citrus & brine. Mellow malt grain notes.

T: Sweet & tart. Comes on lemony & leaves with a lingering dry brininess (which is nice). Definitely more lightly tart than truly sour. Could use a bit more aggressive salt on the finish, at least to my palate.

M: Surprisingly substantial. Carb balances nicely against the somewhat heavier-than-expected body. Don't get me wrong, it's not exactly dense, just fuller than the appearance suggests.

O: I tend to like the saltier versions of this style, but this guy delivers a lot of goodness in a balanced package. Darn good, refreshing, a crushable sipper.

Photo of jason_nwx
2.69/5  rDev -28.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

All I got was a weakly flavored, average wheat beer.

Photo of UrbanCaveman
3.99/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle, poured into a snifter at ~45 degrees F.

Appearance: Pours a mildly hazy, very pale straw gold and forms a massive, if somewhat short-lived, white head. This actually looks like a slightly hazy version of (insert any AAL name here).

Smell: Heavy with orange and coriander, accompanied by just a hint of salty wheaten malt, and a mild funk.

Taste: Take a swig of some verging-on-spoiled orange juice and, while holding it in your mouth, tilt your head back a little and pour about half a fast food salt packet into your mouth as well. Then close your mouth and swish. Voila, you have how this beer opens! As it progresses, the orange and salt fade into the background, allowing the musty funk to come more to the forefront, alongside some distinct herbal tones. The finish is a lingering salty funk.

Mouthfeel: Light and effevervescent at first, but there's something about this beer - possibly the way in which the opening taste is so very like partially spoiled OJ, that makes it seem as though it has that sort of filmy, almost stringy quality to it.

Overall: This is a tasty gose. Would repeat.

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Troublesome from Off Color Brewing
85 out of 100 based on 846 ratings.