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Troublesome - Off Color Brewing

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132 Reviews

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Reviews: 132
Hads: 908
Avg: 3.8
pDev: 31.84%
Wants: 45
Gots: 116 | FT: 5
Brewed by:
Off Color Brewing visit their website
Illinois, United States

Style | ABV
Gose |  4.30% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: MasterSki on 06-17-2013

Most brewers spend a lot of time and effort keeping lactobacillus out of their breweries; it was the first thing we brought in (it still has to stay in the corner though). We blend together two different beers to make Troublesome. The first is a somewhat uninteresting wheat beer and the second is an overly acidic & funky beer fermented solely with lactobacillus. We blend the two beers together with coriander and salt at the tail end of fermentation to create a mild, lemony tartness and a fuller sensation of mouthfeel. And yes, it's hard to make.

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Photo of Moose90
3.51/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.25

Served from 12oz bottle and on-tap, updating notes

A — Pours a moderately clear, though still slightly hazy, light pale yellow into the glass. There is a nice nearly white colored head atop of the beer, though minimal lacing is left behind.

S — Smells of light wheat and pale malts, as well as some lightly acidic and tart lemon.

T — Lots of wheat, little bit of salinity and tartness, but really a lot of wheat and malt sweetness.

M — Light-Medium bodied, there is a lingering sweet finish as well.

O — OK overall, really would have loved some more tartness and less sweetness.

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Photo of UrbanCaveman
3.99/5  rDev +5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle, poured into a snifter at ~45 degrees F.

Appearance: Pours a mildly hazy, very pale straw gold and forms a massive, if somewhat short-lived, white head. This actually looks like a slightly hazy version of (insert any AAL name here).

Smell: Heavy with orange and coriander, accompanied by just a hint of salty wheaten malt, and a mild funk.

Taste: Take a swig of some verging-on-spoiled orange juice and, while holding it in your mouth, tilt your head back a little and pour about half a fast food salt packet into your mouth as well. Then close your mouth and swish. Voila, you have how this beer opens! As it progresses, the orange and salt fade into the background, allowing the musty funk to come more to the forefront, alongside some distinct herbal tones. The finish is a lingering salty funk.

Mouthfeel: Light and effevervescent at first, but there's something about this beer - possibly the way in which the opening taste is so very like partially spoiled OJ, that makes it seem as though it has that sort of filmy, almost stringy quality to it.

Overall: This is a tasty gose. Would repeat.

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Photo of 1000lbgrizzly
4.1/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

A: Very pale slightly hazy yellow with an army of very fine bubbles ascending. White thin head. Gotta love the artwork.

S: Not much. Coriander, wheat. I feel like it's actually sucking up any ambient fragrances around me and muffling them.

T: My first thought: This better be a gose (I hadn't checked the style beforehand). Everything is faint: faint corn, faint coriander, faint lemony wheat. And it all fades to nothing, just leaving a puzzling dryness different than astringent tannins (this is the salt). Perfect for the style. Just not necessarily for me, although I do love the drinkability.

F: Perfectly fluid, light carbonation that is really only noticeable on the bigger gulps (thank goodness for it, or else this would be down in one mouthful). Genuine crispness.

O: So close to Corona, yet so far away. Super light and drinkable, but has that little edge of real flavor and crispness over the aforementioned macro and others like it. Gose will probably never be a favorite style of mine, but this sample has all the characteristics to make me respect and appreciate the category.

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Photo of drpimento
4.36/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Very good beer. Appearance is traditional with a smallish off-white head that soon settles and a hazy yellow color. Aroma is grain and yeast. On my first sip I got wheat, grain, a little tart & coriander, but no salt. Second sip got all of that but then got a little salt too. Body is just right. Very nice drinking beer. Wouldn't mind another.

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Photo of founddrama
3.13/5  rDev -17.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Sought for so long and then it's… ok. I get those salty coriander flavors, and/but reads like a wheat beer so there's that. (Drives it home: I don't much like wheat beers.) Sparkles on the tongue though, and goes pretty well with a beet sandwich.

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Photo of rlee1390
3.8/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A-Clear yellow, two finger head that lingers, not much carbonation

S-Wheat, coriander, not much else.

T-Too much coriander, a little wheat. There isn't much else to it.

M-Lighter, crisp and dry.

O-Not sour, lacking in salt, not sure how this gets classified as a gose.

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Photo of JamesStreet
3.85/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured on tap at CB&D
Tasted like hot dog water - but in a good way! Not overly salty and the coriander was allowed a little breathing room. Not bad at all.

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Photo of adapt313
3.77/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a cloudy light golden color with a solid frothy white head that lingers for a while. Smells like an infected hefeweizen, although not necessarily in a bad way. Grassy, funky wheat, corriander, tart lemon zest, and yogurt. A light saltiness as well. Taste follows the nose pretty well, a funky, spiced wit that got the lacto treatment. I wish there was slightly more tart and slightly less corriander though. Mouthfeel is crisp, appropriate for the style. I wish it was slightly more tart and funky, though I do still really enjoy this beer. I'm not a big wheat beer drinker but this is a go to summertime brew anytime it's around.

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Photo of StevieD77
2.8/5  rDev -26.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Small to medium white creamy head. Hazy pale gold color. Aroma has a slight funky note, but overall is a bit indistinct.
Taste has a slight bite up front. There is a bit of a wild sour nature here, but it is overly tempered by a watery wheaty base. I would like to see more sour and less wheat. There is a faint salty tinge to the finish. Aftersight is fairly flat looking. Just a few spots of soapy cling and a thin ring of retention.
Overall, this is an entry level sour which might make a decent session beer. Stronger sour presence is called for. Decent for what it is intending to be.

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Photo of superspak
3.8/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ounce bottle into tulip glass, no bottle dating. Pours slightly hazy golden straw color with a 1-2 finger dense and fluffy white head with great retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Nice spotty soapy lacing clings around the glass, with some light streaming carbonation. Aromas of big tart lemon, lime, green apple, white grape, coriander, sea salt, wheat, cracker, bread, herbal, straw, grass, light pepper, and herbal/yeast earthiness. Very nice aromas with good balance and complexity of fruity/earthy yeast, salt/spice, and pale malt notes; with good strength. Taste of lightly tart lemon, lime, green apple, white grape, coriander, sea salt, wheat, cracker, bread, herbal, straw, grass, light pepper, and herbal/yeast earthiness. Slight fruity tartness on the finish; with lingering notes of lemon, lime, green apple, white grape, coriander, sea salt, wheat, cracker, bread, light pepper, and herbal/yeast earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Good balance and complexity of fruity/earthy yeast, salt/spice, and pale malt flavors; with a good malt/tartness balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium carbonation and light-medium bodied; with a very smooth, crisp, and lightly saline/bready mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is well hidden with zero warming present after the finish as expected of 4.3%. Overall this is a very good Gose style. All around good robustness, balance, and complexity of fruity/earthy yeast, salt/spice, and pale malt flavors; and very smooth and crisp to drink. It was not as tart as I was hoping for, but the flavors were very well balanced. A nicely enjoyable offering.

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Photo of ghirsh
4.42/5  rDev +16.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Amazing beer. The best part is that it definitely grows on you. It gets better with every sit. I'm new to the sour world, and this one is pretty mellow.

A: Somewhat cloudy from the yeast. Strong yellow color.
S: Bananas, cloves, and a bit of salt
T: AMAZING! Bananas and cloves like a hefeweizen, but not quite as intense. A hint of salt towards the finish. A tiny bit sour, but not too much.
M: Feels a bit crisp, but also bubbly from the carbonation. Interesting blend of mouthfeel, but it's pretty good.
O: Great beer. There are a lot of spot-on qualities. I'll be buying anything I can find in the store from Off Color.

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Photo of tigg924
3.39/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.25

Taste is orange, coriander, and lemon. I do not get the saltiness that I typically associate with the style despite a bit of mineral taste. Worth a try, but there are others that I prefer in the style.

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Photo of deadonhisfeet
3.78/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a bottle into a Lost Abbey Teku. The pour is light hold, hazy, and sports low carbonation. Significant lactic sourness on the nose. Lemons, green apples, fruit salad, white wine

Light body and firm feel. Wheat-like graininess. Slightly sweet up front with notes of apples and pears, then a gentle lactic sourness creeps in. Sour apples, champagne, and ginger ale. Very pleasant balance of sweet and sour. Not much of a finish. Slightly sweet and fruity. Very refreshing and easy to drink.

Not sure just how to rate this as I am completely new to this style and cannot seem to find the style guidelines for gose anywhere on the internet. (Hey BJCP, don't you think it's time you updated the style guidelines on your website? It ain't 2008 anymore.) From what I gathered, I feel like there should be more of a salty, saline-like character to this beer that I'm not getting. Other than that, I found it to be very enjoyable.

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Photo of Barnoloid
4.4/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

I’m still relatively new to enjoying Gose style beers, but I feel this is a solid representation of this most interesting brew. There is a sourness and funkiness at play here with a citric and salty feel. Enjoyable and thought provoking.

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Photo of Slatetank
3.87/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

I enjoyed this on tap at Federal Taphouse in Harrisburg, served chilled in a snifter.

The color is golden with lightly hazed appearance and thick white head wtih fine bead. The gose has a beautiful resplendent golden faded look wiht lace that sticks and retention is very good. The smell is lightly mineral up front with slight fruit ester and citrus in the aroma with mild malt and gentle yeast ester with a tropical quality and gentle salt scent. The feel has mild spice with subtle salt quality with medium carbonation and light sweet middle with gently tangy texture and mostly dry finish.

The taste has mild malt with wheat character and light grain toastiness and slight mineral aspect but not excessively salty tasting with mild tropical fruit in the background. Overal I liked this -very good traditional and drinkable gose - more traditional than some which is unexpected considering the brewer but pleasant and quaffable.

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Photo of CasanovaCummins
3.23/5  rDev -15%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours with some nice lacing. This has a very nice nose of, well, coriander, of course. It also has a slight lemony/ sweet biscuty smell. Very lightly sour, but merely a faint hint.

Now for the magic moment- and... what? very light, faint, almost whispery hints of lemony wheat. Really lackluster compared to the nose. Strong nose, weak flavors. Keep expecting the flavors to pop, but they never do.

Mouthfeel is a tad watery and thin. Good carbonation for a few seconds then a puckery flatness. Lacto nothing. Not catching any wildness here. Feels like a ghost after the nose of promise. Just average with no lasting flavors on the palette.

Coming off Westbrook's salt laden mouth popper this just feels lackluster.

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Photo of ONovoMexicano
4.18/5  rDev +10%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Served in a snifter from a 12 ounce bottle.

Two fingers of thick pale head form over the body. Chewy and foamy. The body is cloudy and pale golden in color. 4.5

Big notes of coriander, wheat, light lemon and a touch of salt. Faintly sweet. 4.5

Sweet wheat and coriander are dominant, but light salt and faint tartness round out the flavor. 4

Very enjoyable to drink. Mostly sweet, but not cloying, with a touch of spice feel. Tartness is faint but provides a good balance towards the finish. Salt dries the beer out a bit. 4.25

This is enjoyable to drink. Sweet witbier with a touch of salt and tartness. If you like your gose closer to a sour, this may not do it for you, but it's a good brew.

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Photo of hopsputin
4.26/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

a: very hazy light yellow in color. very bright. 1/2 finger white head that fades to just some lacing

s: wheat aroma hits you right away. some big malt and berry sweetness that you get in some weizens. more wheat and a bunch of coriander, and a hint of cardamom. slightly like apple juice

t: this is my first Gose, and its quite an interesting brew. wheat and coriander upfront. that fades into some sweet malts and berries. this is then balanced out by the salt. its so interesting the salt incorporated in here. its not 'salty' but you do get a little bit of sharpness from it which makes it extremely refreshing

m: despite the lack of head here, its pretty highly carbonated. a nice amount to help the sweetness and salt sharpness pop

o: like this much more than i thought i would, not being a salt person. its extremely tasty, and super refreshing - but doesn't have any overpowering flavors. nicely harmonized

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Photo of DefenCorps
3.65/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Bottle from Julio's.

A crystal clear light yellow with a dense, white head that falls off to a ring leaving little lacing, this looks solid. The nose is solid. Definitely wheaty with a mild lactic sputness and a yogurty funk, there's a mild grape like character present as well. Coriander is reserved, allowing the wheat and lacto to dominate, making this more of a berlinerweiss/gose hybrid. Mildly sulfury as well.

The palate opens tart, refreshing and with a blend of buttermilk, yogurt, wheat bread, and some grist. The mid palate has a mild coriander flavor, but the lack of salt makes this pretty interesting. By taking away that downright quenching character, this really veers off into berlinerweiss waters. Very light in body with a mild, watery moutfeel, disappointingly so, this beer is moderately carbonated and feels OK on the palate. Decent stuff.

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Photo of Jwale73
3.84/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz. bottle courtesy of Brew33 and served in a stange. Pours a slightly pale straw gold with a hazy clarity and a rocky, half inch, bright white head. Head dissipates into a loose band around the shoulders. Copious tiny bubbles are present effervescing in-solution. Nose expresses citrus, brine and a hint of coriander and sour mash. Taste consistent with nose; however, less brine and more sour mash. Mouthfeel is light in body with a pleasant carbonation falling just shy of bright. This is probably my only second experience with the style so I don't have too many frames of reference to compare this to. That said, this would make a great summer offering - reminds me a bit of a berlinner weisse/witbier hybrid.

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Photo of MrBoh
3.98/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Pours a very cloudlly, orangish yellow into my snifter. little head, lacing dissipates quickly.

Smell reminds me of a mass produces lager at first. Soon resides and is a doughy coriander smell. Still, nothing great.

Just a tad salty and a tad sour. Prevailing tastes are lemon, mint, coriander, bread.

A little tingle on the tongue. Crisp yet you can feel residual yeast. Best off both worlds here. It does seem to thicken quickly as it warms though.

good buy. Light, refreshing yet tasty.

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Photo of justintcoons
3.6/5  rDev -5.3%

12 oz bottle poured into a pokal.

Hazy straw-yellow with a short white head that dissipates quickly.

Wheat, lemon, and sourdough.

Wheat, lemon juice, and some bready malts. Just a touch of coriander and salt.

Medium-light bodied, clean, and refreshing with very light carbonation.

Clean and refreshing. Highly quaffable. However, the Lacto plays a minuscule role in this Gose unfortunately. :(

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Photo of fourstringer
3.73/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a Duvel tulip. Moderately aggressive hand. No date on the label or bottle.

A: Hazy to mildly cloudy, pale golden yellow body. 1 finger white head. Below average retention overall, but typical for the style. Minimal lacing.

S: Slightly musty yeast with wheat notes. Coriander. Lemon. Light banana. Grass. Faintly floral hops. Cracker.

T: A faintly spicy yeast comes first and is quickly followed by wheat/pale malt flavors. Light, citrusy tang, but not particularly sour. Mild vanilla notes midway. Some hops bring a mild bitter edge to close things fairly dry. No significant alcohol presence, as expected. Pretty clean finish with some lemon, corn and some subtle salinity in the aftertaste.

M: Moderate carbonation with a light body. Easy drinking. Slightly prickly.

O: This one is fairly mild in flavor, even for the style. The hopping strikes me as more pilsner than gose. I found the salt to be buried a bit. On a positive note, the nose is rather nice.


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Photo of hopley
3.5/5  rDev -7.9%

Not sure where I'm coming out on this beer - don't think I've ever had a gose and I've been excited to try one. It's a delicate light bodied beer - nice dark yellow color with medium haze and little to no head. The taste as first seemed complex with a slight bit of Belgian, slight lacto acid but not at all overwhelming, and refreshing. Can't get much smell out of it, and as I drink the beer down to better try to understand the taste profile, my thoughts keep moving to "this tastes more like a watered down ginger ale" to me - I guess the ginger taste I'm getting is a mix of the coriander and salt. Kind of disappointing for me, but not a bad beer for fans of this style in my ever so humble opinion. Nonetheless, I am excited try some of the other Off Color offerings.

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Photo of cjgiant
3.65/5  rDev -3.9%

On tap:
Pours nicely, decent small bubble carbonation, fading to a fluffy bit of head at the edges. Color is yellow side of golden, translucent. Nose is malty sweet, with a bit of salinity present. I get something a bit like cocoa butter lotion, but with a deep whiff, I can detect some tart undertones.

Taste does not seem to have any sourness to it. The taste is pleasant enough, but far from expectations. There's actually a slight buttery nature to this beer, but it is combined with a sweet-tart candy-like taste (like an apple now 'n' later), and a saltiness that is cut like a salted caramel has the salinity cut.

Really disappointed with the front tartness. Overall an nicely balanced, fairly enjoyable beer, but not exciting or, to me, within style enough.

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Troublesome from Off Color Brewing
85 out of 100 based on 132 ratings.