Troublesome - Off Color Brewing

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BA SCORE
85
very good

848 Ratings
THE BROS
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outstanding

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Ratings: 848
Reviews: 146
rAvg: 3.78
pDev: 12.43%
Wants: 37
Gots: 101 | FT: 5
Brewed by:
Off Color Brewing visit their website
Illinois, United States

Style | ABV
Gose |  4.30% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: MasterSki on 06-17-2013

Most brewers spend a lot of time and effort keeping lactobacillus out of their breweries; it was the first thing we brought in (it still has to stay in the corner though). We blend together two different beers to make Troublesome. The first is a somewhat uninteresting wheat beer and the second is an overly acidic & funky beer fermented solely with lactobacillus. We blend the two beers together with coriander and salt at the tail end of fermentation to create a mild, lemony tartness and a fuller sensation of mouthfeel. And yes, it's hard to make.

10 IBU
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Ratings: 848 | Reviews: 146
Photo of jaswilson2
3/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Didn't care for the wheat sour combo

Photo of 1000lbgrizzly
4.1/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

A: Very pale slightly hazy yellow with an army of very fine bubbles ascending. White thin head. Gotta love the artwork.

S: Not much. Coriander, wheat. I feel like it's actually sucking up any ambient fragrances around me and muffling them.

T: My first thought: This better be a gose (I hadn't checked the style beforehand). Everything is faint: faint corn, faint coriander, faint lemony wheat. And it all fades to nothing, just leaving a puzzling dryness different than astringent tannins (this is the salt). Perfect for the style. Just not necessarily for me, although I do love the drinkability.

F: Perfectly fluid, light carbonation that is really only noticeable on the bigger gulps (thank goodness for it, or else this would be down in one mouthful). Genuine crispness.

O: So close to Corona, yet so far away. Super light and drinkable, but has that little edge of real flavor and crispness over the aforementioned macro and others like it. Gose will probably never be a favorite style of mine, but this sample has all the characteristics to make me respect and appreciate the category.

Photo of Glickj
4.62/5  rDev +22.2%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

great with mac n cheese

Photo of drpimento
4.36/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Very good beer. Appearance is traditional with a smallish off-white head that soon settles and a hazy yellow color. Aroma is grain and yeast. On my first sip I got wheat, grain, a little tart & coriander, but no salt. Second sip got all of that but then got a little salt too. Body is just right. Very nice drinking beer. Wouldn't mind another.

Photo of founddrama
3.13/5  rDev -17.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Sought for so long and then it's… ok. I get those salty coriander flavors, and/but reads like a wheat beer so there's that. (Drives it home: I don't much like wheat beers.) Sparkles on the tongue though, and goes pretty well with a beet sandwich.

Photo of rlee1390
3.8/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A-Clear yellow, two finger head that lingers, not much carbonation

S-Wheat, coriander, not much else.

T-Too much coriander, a little wheat. There isn't much else to it.

M-Lighter, crisp and dry.

O-Not sour, lacking in salt, not sure how this gets classified as a gose.

Photo of JamesStreet
3.85/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured on tap at CB&D
Tasted like hot dog water - but in a good way! Not overly salty and the coriander was allowed a little breathing room. Not bad at all.

Photo of adapt313
3.77/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a cloudy light golden color with a solid frothy white head that lingers for a while. Smells like an infected hefeweizen, although not necessarily in a bad way. Grassy, funky wheat, corriander, tart lemon zest, and yogurt. A light saltiness as well. Taste follows the nose pretty well, a funky, spiced wit that got the lacto treatment. I wish there was slightly more tart and slightly less corriander though. Mouthfeel is crisp, appropriate for the style. I wish it was slightly more tart and funky, though I do still really enjoy this beer. I'm not a big wheat beer drinker but this is a go to summertime brew anytime it's around.

Photo of C_hunter1
4.21/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

Nice lemon tartness . Great body and finishes clean

Photo of StevieD77
2.8/5  rDev -25.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Small to medium white creamy head. Hazy pale gold color. Aroma has a slight funky note, but overall is a bit indistinct.
Taste has a slight bite up front. There is a bit of a wild sour nature here, but it is overly tempered by a watery wheaty base. I would like to see more sour and less wheat. There is a faint salty tinge to the finish. Aftersight is fairly flat looking. Just a few spots of soapy cling and a thin ring of retention.
Overall, this is an entry level sour which might make a decent session beer. Stronger sour presence is called for. Decent for what it is intending to be.

Photo of yeaprolly
3/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Outlier detected. Justify rating with a review.

Photo of timothybarney
3/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A little too much coriander--overpowers the flavor, although it's a possible I had a bad batch.

Photo of psoriasaurus
4.25/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Unique spin on a gose. Less bitter/salt and more wheat. Slight, balanced lactobacillus funk. Overall a fairly drinkable and enjoyable beer.

Photo of SurferEric
3.95/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Not as much funk as I'd like in a dour but still drinkable and refreshing.

Photo of superspak
3.8/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ounce bottle into tulip glass, no bottle dating. Pours slightly hazy golden straw color with a 1-2 finger dense and fluffy white head with great retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Nice spotty soapy lacing clings around the glass, with some light streaming carbonation. Aromas of big tart lemon, lime, green apple, white grape, coriander, sea salt, wheat, cracker, bread, herbal, straw, grass, light pepper, and herbal/yeast earthiness. Very nice aromas with good balance and complexity of fruity/earthy yeast, salt/spice, and pale malt notes; with good strength. Taste of lightly tart lemon, lime, green apple, white grape, coriander, sea salt, wheat, cracker, bread, herbal, straw, grass, light pepper, and herbal/yeast earthiness. Slight fruity tartness on the finish; with lingering notes of lemon, lime, green apple, white grape, coriander, sea salt, wheat, cracker, bread, light pepper, and herbal/yeast earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Good balance and complexity of fruity/earthy yeast, salt/spice, and pale malt flavors; with a good malt/tartness balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium carbonation and light-medium bodied; with a very smooth, crisp, and lightly saline/bready mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is well hidden with zero warming present after the finish as expected of 4.3%. Overall this is a very good Gose style. All around good robustness, balance, and complexity of fruity/earthy yeast, salt/spice, and pale malt flavors; and very smooth and crisp to drink. It was not as tart as I was hoping for, but the flavors were very well balanced. A nicely enjoyable offering.

Photo of ghirsh
4.42/5  rDev +16.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Amazing beer. The best part is that it definitely grows on you. It gets better with every sit. I'm new to the sour world, and this one is pretty mellow.

A: Somewhat cloudy from the yeast. Strong yellow color.
S: Bananas, cloves, and a bit of salt
T: AMAZING! Bananas and cloves like a hefeweizen, but not quite as intense. A hint of salt towards the finish. A tiny bit sour, but not too much.
M: Feels a bit crisp, but also bubbly from the carbonation. Interesting blend of mouthfeel, but it's pretty good.
O: Great beer. There are a lot of spot-on qualities. I'll be buying anything I can find in the store from Off Color.

Photo of infuturity83
2.59/5  rDev -31.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

I don't know if I got a bad bottle or something, but this was terrible. Perhaps I'll give it another shot some other time.

Photo of tigg924
3.39/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.25

Taste is orange, coriander, and lemon. I do not get the saltiness that I typically associate with the style despite a bit of mineral taste. Worth a try, but there are others that I prefer in the style.

Photo of deadonhisfeet
3.78/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a bottle into a Lost Abbey Teku. The pour is light hold, hazy, and sports low carbonation. Significant lactic sourness on the nose. Lemons, green apples, fruit salad, white wine

Light body and firm feel. Wheat-like graininess. Slightly sweet up front with notes of apples and pears, then a gentle lactic sourness creeps in. Sour apples, champagne, and ginger ale. Very pleasant balance of sweet and sour. Not much of a finish. Slightly sweet and fruity. Very refreshing and easy to drink.

Not sure just how to rate this as I am completely new to this style and cannot seem to find the style guidelines for gose anywhere on the internet. (Hey BJCP, don't you think it's time you updated the style guidelines on your website? It ain't 2008 anymore.) From what I gathered, I feel like there should be more of a salty, saline-like character to this beer that I'm not getting. Other than that, I found it to be very enjoyable.

Photo of Barnoloid
4.4/5  rDev +16.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

I’m still relatively new to enjoying Gose style beers, but I feel this is a solid representation of this most interesting brew. There is a sourness and funkiness at play here with a citric and salty feel. Enjoyable and thought provoking.

Photo of Theprofessor92
4.42/5  rDev +16.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

It's really smooth, but sometimes the sour can be overpowering. Don't drink this with spicy food. Sweet and sour all the way.

Photo of Slatetank
3.87/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

I enjoyed this on tap at Federal Taphouse in Harrisburg, served chilled in a snifter.

The color is golden with lightly hazed appearance and thick white head wtih fine bead. The gose has a beautiful resplendent golden faded look wiht lace that sticks and retention is very good. The smell is lightly mineral up front with slight fruit ester and citrus in the aroma with mild malt and gentle yeast ester with a tropical quality and gentle salt scent. The feel has mild spice with subtle salt quality with medium carbonation and light sweet middle with gently tangy texture and mostly dry finish.

The taste has mild malt with wheat character and light grain toastiness and slight mineral aspect but not excessively salty tasting with mild tropical fruit in the background. Overal I liked this -very good traditional and drinkable gose - more traditional than some which is unexpected considering the brewer but pleasant and quaffable.

Photo of CasanovaCummins
3.23/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours with some nice lacing. This has a very nice nose of, well, coriander, of course. It also has a slight lemony/ sweet biscuty smell. Very lightly sour, but merely a faint hint.

Now for the magic moment- and... what? very light, faint, almost whispery hints of lemony wheat. Really lackluster compared to the nose. Strong nose, weak flavors. Keep expecting the flavors to pop, but they never do.

Mouthfeel is a tad watery and thin. Good carbonation for a few seconds then a puckery flatness. Lacto nothing. Not catching any wildness here. Feels like a ghost after the nose of promise. Just average with no lasting flavors on the palette.

Coming off Westbrook's salt laden mouth popper this just feels lackluster.

Photo of ONovoMexicano
4.18/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Served in a snifter from a 12 ounce bottle.

Two fingers of thick pale head form over the body. Chewy and foamy. The body is cloudy and pale golden in color. 4.5

Big notes of coriander, wheat, light lemon and a touch of salt. Faintly sweet. 4.5

Sweet wheat and coriander are dominant, but light salt and faint tartness round out the flavor. 4

Very enjoyable to drink. Mostly sweet, but not cloying, with a touch of spice feel. Tartness is faint but provides a good balance towards the finish. Salt dries the beer out a bit. 4.25

This is enjoyable to drink. Sweet witbier with a touch of salt and tartness. If you like your gose closer to a sour, this may not do it for you, but it's a good brew.

Photo of Jabol
2.86/5  rDev -24.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

im new to the style , not sure if i like it , if u like refreshing beers give this one a shot

Troublesome from Off Color Brewing
85 out of 100 based on 848 ratings.