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Troublesome - Off Color Brewing

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136 Reviews

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Reviews: 136
Hads: 935
Avg: 3.8
pDev: 31.58%
Wants: 49
Gots: 130 | FT: 4
Brewed by:
Off Color Brewing
Illinois, United States | website

Style | ABV
Gose | 4.30% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: MasterSki on 06-17-2013

Most brewers spend a lot of time and effort keeping lactobacillus out of their breweries; it was the first thing we brought in (it still has to stay in the corner though). We blend together two different beers to make Troublesome. The first is a somewhat uninteresting wheat beer and the second is an overly acidic & funky beer fermented solely with lactobacillus. We blend the two beers together with coriander and salt at the tail end of fermentation to create a mild, lemony tartness and a fuller sensation of mouthfeel. And yes, it's hard to make.

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Photo of justintcoons
3.6/5  rDev -5.3%

12 oz bottle poured into a pokal.

Hazy straw-yellow with a short white head that dissipates quickly.

Wheat, lemon, and sourdough.

Wheat, lemon juice, and some bready malts. Just a touch of coriander and salt.

Medium-light bodied, clean, and refreshing with very light carbonation.

Clean and refreshing. Highly quaffable. However, the Lacto plays a minuscule role in this Gose unfortunately. :(

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Photo of fourstringer
3.73/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a Duvel tulip. Moderately aggressive hand. No date on the label or bottle.

A: Hazy to mildly cloudy, pale golden yellow body. 1 finger white head. Below average retention overall, but typical for the style. Minimal lacing.

S: Slightly musty yeast with wheat notes. Coriander. Lemon. Light banana. Grass. Faintly floral hops. Cracker.

T: A faintly spicy yeast comes first and is quickly followed by wheat/pale malt flavors. Light, citrusy tang, but not particularly sour. Mild vanilla notes midway. Some hops bring a mild bitter edge to close things fairly dry. No significant alcohol presence, as expected. Pretty clean finish with some lemon, corn and some subtle salinity in the aftertaste.

M: Moderate carbonation with a light body. Easy drinking. Slightly prickly.

O: This one is fairly mild in flavor, even for the style. The hopping strikes me as more pilsner than gose. I found the salt to be buried a bit. On a positive note, the nose is rather nice.


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Photo of hopley
3.5/5  rDev -7.9%

Not sure where I'm coming out on this beer - don't think I've ever had a gose and I've been excited to try one. It's a delicate light bodied beer - nice dark yellow color with medium haze and little to no head. The taste as first seemed complex with a slight bit of Belgian, slight lacto acid but not at all overwhelming, and refreshing. Can't get much smell out of it, and as I drink the beer down to better try to understand the taste profile, my thoughts keep moving to "this tastes more like a watered down ginger ale" to me - I guess the ginger taste I'm getting is a mix of the coriander and salt. Kind of disappointing for me, but not a bad beer for fans of this style in my ever so humble opinion. Nonetheless, I am excited try some of the other Off Color offerings.

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Photo of cjgiant
3.65/5  rDev -3.9%

On tap:
Pours nicely, decent small bubble carbonation, fading to a fluffy bit of head at the edges. Color is yellow side of golden, translucent. Nose is malty sweet, with a bit of salinity present. I get something a bit like cocoa butter lotion, but with a deep whiff, I can detect some tart undertones.

Taste does not seem to have any sourness to it. The taste is pleasant enough, but far from expectations. There's actually a slight buttery nature to this beer, but it is combined with a sweet-tart candy-like taste (like an apple now 'n' later), and a saltiness that is cut like a salted caramel has the salinity cut.

Really disappointed with the front tartness. Overall an nicely balanced, fairly enjoyable beer, but not exciting or, to me, within style enough.

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Photo of BMMillsy
3.56/5  rDev -6.3%

Bottle shared with a friend at World of Beer in Gainesville. Pours hazy yellowish white colored with a creamy white head on top. Aroma of bananas, clove, yeasty funk, pears, coriander. As expected here. Flavor follows with sweet bananas, yeast, corander, a bit of honey. Mouthfeel is heavy for the style with big rich flavors alongside adequate to plus carbonation. Overall a decent rendition of the style--described as a Witbier, but here looks to be a Gose. As a Witbier, it falls a little short. As a Gose, it's better than others I've had. I would drink it again.

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Photo of yarnbomb
2.75/5  rDev -27.6%

Smells like buttered popcorn. Is that diacetyl? I don't have a lot of knowledge or experience with beer flaws. Despite that, it's not bad... but not great either.

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Photo of farrago
3.34/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Very thin bone white head, covers the surface before a swift dissolve to just an accumulation along the glass sides, no real lacing either. Metallic yellow color, has good shine to compensate for overall paleness, not any bubbles but what’s there are large and active. The nose is on the flat side, yeast, iron flecks, wet straw, brown dirt, the mixed white citrus struggles to maintain presence, minimal peach, apricot fruit scents, funky on the whole albeit more sugary as it warms. Medium-bodied, heavily carbonated with an active churn in the mouth. Corn syrup kind of sweetness, dough, honey and lemondrops, can’t say it is easy to discern any coriander although there is an undistinguished cooking spice thing there. Peach, yellow apple to cherry flavors. The wheat is clearer, here comes off more as bread than uncooked dough. Semi-tart ending tries to play up earthiness but, again, more metallic than the former. For its weight can be refreshing and strikes one as a dinner table beer more than a quaffer on its own.

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Photo of jlindros
3.68/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Pours a decent fizzy creamy like almost 1 finger head that fades at a med pace, nice lacing, mostly clear golden pilsner color.

Nose brings some tart slightly soured malt, creamy doughy malt and fresh bread dough, lemon zest, little coriander, but pretty light.

Taste brings more wheat, creamy wheat with a little toasty but raw bread dough, doughy that even brings the mild tartness of raw dough, and little toasty biscuit note. Then tart lemony flavors, little zest, mild coriander and spice notes. Finish is mildly sweet but drier, little creamy and more raw dough, tart notes, and coriander lingering.

Mouth is med to lighter bod, light carbonation, and a little tart sticky feel.

Overall not bad, nothing too special, mild coriander which comes through nicely, nice wheat and plenty of raw dough wheat with even the tartness of raw dough and lemony notes, enjoyable for a summer style beer, or a super hot summer like day in fall as in today.

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Photo of Huhzubendah
3.65/5  rDev -3.9%

On draft at Churchkey in D.C.

The beer is light golden with small head that quickly dissipates. Aromas of sourdough bread, funky malt, light spice, particularly coriander, wheat. There's an odd, rubbery scent in there as well, but I can't decide how distracting it is...Sour, earthy flavor. Tart lemon-like qualities. An interesting take on a gose. Unusual and worth a try.

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Photo of clayrock81
3.9/5  rDev +2.6%

Poured a light gold body with some minor head and lace patches.
Aroma is a mix of wheat notes and citric along with some sour and tart notes and hints of spice.
Light and crisp body, sharp, there's a floral spicy edge to the beer and the wheat gives it a fuller body and some sweetness that I wasn't expecting.
Good balance as the above characteristics are plentiful but the main profile is a citric sourness/tartness that makes this a "sour beer".
Finishes dry and sour, almost a puckering tartness at times, but is a unique beer that has a little bit of everything and is pretty good.

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Photo of hosehead83
4/5  rDev +5.3%

Poured from bottle into a tulip glass.
Chill-hazed lemon in color, with a short head of bright white foam.
Aroma-Spicy yeast
Taste-Wheat, spicy yeast, faint coriander, a pinch of salt in the finish. Light-bodied, faintly tart, and very refreshing and quenching. A fine match for a blue cheese salad or light fish entree.

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Photo of mikeburd1128
3.2/5  rDev -15.8%

The few offerings I've had from Off Color have all been very enjoyable. This one, eh, I dk. It's just alright.

12 oz bottle poured into a Three Floyds Teku. Pours a light golden straw color with a finger of a white head. Nose is nice. Lemon, some mild brett funk, salt. Taste is just so salt heavy that it's offputting. You get a tiny tiny bit of funk - kinda have to search for it though. And a lemony/salty finish - which to me is just not working very well. Mouthfeel is moderate - a little more body than you'd expect and carbonation is low.

Again, this is decent, but the salt is just way too dominant in this one. It needs some more flavors to balance it out. Brewed with brett so I'll throw a bottle or two in the basement for a bit and see how it turns out.

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Photo of bruachan
4/5  rDev +5.3%

Appearance: hazy straw gold with only a ring of head. Lines of bubbles floating enthusiastically from the deep.

Nose: distinct wheaty aroma; sweet pilsner malts with a lacticity. Lemon hop notes and a mild spice trail (coriander, clove)

Taste: surprisingly sweet, though effervescence cuts through nicely. The sweetness is quite fruity: like a blackberry-lime soda. Pils-y and wheat-y. Hop flavor is lemony, which melds nicely the faint acidity from the lacbacillus. Nominal bitterness. The finish is tea-like—herbal and spicy—but a little bland.

Overall: this brew has subtleties and little sex appeal (i.e. not barrel aged, not very sour or hoppy), but is quite a nice sip, nonetheless. It’s likely too sweet: it would be more quaffable if somewhat drier, or perhaps more highly carbonated. Additionally, the lactobacillus may under-deliver, but its subtlety is commendable.

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Photo of NeroFiddled
4/5  rDev +5.3%

Off Color Brewing "Troublesome"
12 oz. brown glass bottle, no apparent freshness dating.
$3.25 @ Stinky Bklyn, 215 Smith Street, Brooklyn, NY

I can't deny that marketing affects me. When I saw the label on this beer I just had to try it. In addition to the artwork, the label also reads "SECRET INGREDIENTS: Coriander, Lactobacillus"...

It looks like a Berliner weiße or Belgian witbier with a light straw gold body that's gently hazy and a short but creamy bright white head. The smell is a touch off-putting at first. To me it smells like spent grain, and perhaps a little bit of that "old bar" smell where dripping draft lines have left small puddles of beer in some unseen area, covered in white mold. Beyond that there's coriander, and the combination gives a bit of a wet straw or damp plywood character. The flavor is much the same, with the flavor of the lactobacilus coming in right up front, followed by bright coriander, and then sweet malt that gently fades away. It's tart, but not overtly so, and the balance of tart going to sweet is interesting. Oddly I find it a bit salty as well... ? ... and I see that it's listed on Beer Advocate as a Gose beer, but that's not on the label, nor is salt listed as a "secret ingredient"... but of course, it is (I checked their website). So now it all makes sense. Well that's great. Personally I find the salt a bit strong, but that's up to the brewer to decide. It's curious, charming, and ultimately, refreshing and enjoyable. It's not the best gose bier I've had, but I'm impressed and I'll have to try seek out and sample more beers from them.

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Photo of BillRoth
2.75/5  rDev -27.6%

Interesting, but ultimately distasteful. Enjoy Gose very much, but found the lacto way too prominent to the extent that taste devolvd to sour milk aftertastes. Seemed a relatively nicely made beer. Would try the brewery again,.Maybe just a bottle that wasn't the best.

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Photo of matjack85
3.5/5  rDev -7.9%

I got this as part of a build-your-own six pack for $9.99 at the Binny's store in Bloomingdale, IL. 12oz brown bottle with no freshness date.

The beer poured a cloudy yellow color with just a ½-finger of white head that dissipated in less than 30 seconds and leftr no lacing whatsoever.

The beer smelled like wheat, fruit, funk, and spice.

Wheaty flavor with a big lemon twang and hefty dose of coriander spice. Not much in the way of hop bitterness.

Light bodied with really high carbonation. Salty aftertaste.

A very different and interesting beer. Easy to drink with the low 4.3% abv.

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Photo of avalon07
3.75/5  rDev -1.3%

A: Poured from a bottle to a cylinder glass. Had a pale yellow color and a cloudy texture. There was an inch and a half of fairly long-lasting, foamy head. OK lacing.

S: A typical gose smell of malt, wheat, light fruit and spices. Pretty good.

T: Tasted of coriander (a mild amount), salt, lemon, malt, and wheat. Not quite as vibrant as some gose flavors, but still sweet, light and refreshing.

M: A well-carbonated beer with a smooth, yet lively finish. Light-bodied.

O: While it's not the greatest gose I've ever had Troublesome is definitely a worthwhile beer. Drinkable.

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Photo of patre_tim
4.18/5  rDev +10%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A: Honey gold and cloudy with lots of large and medium sized bubbles both within floating upward and clinging to the surface of the glass. 3 fingers of candy glass yellow head fades fast.

S: Corriander, sea salt, a briny breeze. A slight funky sour note. Quite Hoegaarden like.

T: Very briny and salty like sea water, and then sour, then fresh cut fruit, melons and lemon, slightly floral as well. Coriander is in there for sure as well.

M: Medium thick body, briny, medium low carbonation.

O: Well done brew. I am drinking this in the Chicago area tonight, August 12th, 2014. First saw this on Beer Temple with Chris Quinn from Chicago, when it apparently was not yet in bottles. Got this bottle in Asheville, NC and have been carrying it with me. I thought it was appropriate. Love this one. Perhaps my favourite of the Gose’s so far.

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Photo of sjccmd
3.89/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pours hazy bright yellow with fluffy white head that dissipates quickly. Pretty good lacing.

Lemon meringue and wheat malt. MIneral notes in the background. Sour apple and ocean water (in a refreshing way). Bread crust

Lemons and wheat with a bit of that salty ocean water. Complex and refreshing. Could be more tart, but still nice.

Fairly highly carbonated and dry. Medium bodied. Quite refreshing.

Very nice. A little lacking on sourness, but great mineral character.

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Photo of utopiajane
3.18/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This poured yellow and with a scant head of white foam. The nose was sweet with wheat and had some earthy coriander on it. It smelled like it had some tartness and some salt to it. Sweet lemon peel. The taste was malt forward. Sweet wheat which was dry and a bit crisp. But the coriander made it earthy and taste heavy. The lemon was sweet and I wanted to taste tartness. There was no saline or salty finish and it did not finish dry. It tasted like cereal grain after a while and was bland and dull. I did not think this was a good representation of the style. Even for a wheat beer it drank blandly and without much flavor.

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Photo of dar482
3.84/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

The beer comes in a hazy bright lemon drop yellow.

The aroma is a punch of floral and corainder. Not much tart quality.

The flavor follows with spikes of corainder throughout. The tart quality is also lacking and moves on more like a saison. A good mouthfeel and lots of carbonation.

A different take on the style. A great session brew, although not exactly on point for a gose.

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Photo of 2beerdogs
3.66/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to jconrick1 for this little surprise!!

While i'm no Gose expert, I found this one doing a few different things, but all interesting.

Pours hazy. Lite head dissipates quickly.
Smell has some hints of sour, funk, and citrusy coriander.
Taste has a subtle lacto sour, some lemony zest, and sea salt. Follows with hints of peppercorn.
Mouthfeel is thin, not very active in the mouth.
Overall I find this one interesting, and would like to try it again.

On a side note: I really like the artwork, layout & printing of the label. Very cool.

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Photo of metter98
3.72/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: The beer is hazy light yellow in color. It poured with a short white head that quickly died down, leaving wispy lacing consistently covering the surface.
S: Light to moderate aromas of lemons and coriander are present in the nose.
T: The taste is similar to the smell and has flavors of lemons and spices along with hints of salt in the finish.
M: It feels light-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer is very easy to drink and has some refreshing properties; however the salt is only noticeable in the finish.

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Photo of infinitebruner
3.92/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

August 1, 2014

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a completely unpretentious tulip.

This is my first gose.

A – Golden color, bordering on the turn to amber. It poured with about a centimeter of head which dissipated quickly. Very nice to look at, I would think I was about to drink a pale ale if I didn’t know better. Strong orange tint if you hold it up in front of a bright lamp.

S – Light but very much evident hints of sourness on the nose. Some peppery notes, and some mild citrus fruit, possible even tangerine or orange. I get a little bit of honey or rich sweetness, but hard to find and grasp it. At the end of the sniff I get lemon, possibly lime.

T – Very mild sourness from the lactobacillus, reminds me of punch at a party (unspiked), or flavored ginger ale, or limeade (without the sugary sweetness). I don’t get any of the salt.

M – Seems like very mild carbonation while it’s in my mouth, but on the finish there are a lot of bubbles. Very light, breezy, smooth off the tongue, with a nice citrus, faintly floral aftertaste. This is the only time I get the salt, and it’s actually a couple minutes after I last sipped.

O – I can tell that this is a very complex beer, and there are a lot of different things that seem to stand out. It’s like drinking a very light wheat beer, but that sour edge makes it a really great variation. I actually expected more salt flavor, but am glad it wasn’t there. Because of the low alcohol content, this is something I could sit and drink a LOT of.

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Photo of Alieniloquium
3.17/5  rDev -16.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12 oz. bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Pale yellow body. Small white head. Very thin collar.

Smell - A bit of lemony citrus. Wheat. Light breadiness and spice.

Taste - Wheat. The faintest of acidity, but not even tangy. Spicy and bready in the middle. Light salty finish.

Mouthfeel - Light. Not sour at all. Medium low carbonation.

Overall - It's ok, but it just tastes like a salty wheat beer.

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Troublesome from Off Color Brewing
85 out of 100 based on 136 ratings.