Troublesome - Off Color Brewing

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Reviews: 123
Hads: 866
rAvg: 3.8
pDev: 4.21%
Wants: 36
Gots: 106 | FT: 6
Brewed by:
Off Color Brewing visit their website
Illinois, United States

Style | ABV
Gose |  4.30% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: MasterSki on 06-17-2013

Most brewers spend a lot of time and effort keeping lactobacillus out of their breweries; it was the first thing we brought in (it still has to stay in the corner though). We blend together two different beers to make Troublesome. The first is a somewhat uninteresting wheat beer and the second is an overly acidic & funky beer fermented solely with lactobacillus. We blend the two beers together with coriander and salt at the tail end of fermentation to create a mild, lemony tartness and a fuller sensation of mouthfeel. And yes, it's hard to make.

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Photo of NeroFiddled
4/5  rDev +5.3%

Off Color Brewing "Troublesome"
12 oz. brown glass bottle, no apparent freshness dating.
$3.25 @ Stinky Bklyn, 215 Smith Street, Brooklyn, NY

I can't deny that marketing affects me. When I saw the label on this beer I just had to try it. In addition to the artwork, the label also reads "SECRET INGREDIENTS: Coriander, Lactobacillus"...

It looks like a Berliner weiße or Belgian witbier with a light straw gold body that's gently hazy and a short but creamy bright white head. The smell is a touch off-putting at first. To me it smells like spent grain, and perhaps a little bit of that "old bar" smell where dripping draft lines have left small puddles of beer in some unseen area, covered in white mold. Beyond that there's coriander, and the combination gives a bit of a wet straw or damp plywood character. The flavor is much the same, with the flavor of the lactobacilus coming in right up front, followed by bright coriander, and then sweet malt that gently fades away. It's tart, but not overtly so, and the balance of tart going to sweet is interesting. Oddly I find it a bit salty as well... ? ... and I see that it's listed on Beer Advocate as a Gose beer, but that's not on the label, nor is salt listed as a "secret ingredient"... but of course, it is (I checked their website). So now it all makes sense. Well that's great. Personally I find the salt a bit strong, but that's up to the brewer to decide. It's curious, charming, and ultimately, refreshing and enjoyable. It's not the best gose bier I've had, but I'm impressed and I'll have to try seek out and sample more beers from them. (1,605 characters)

Photo of BillRoth
2.75/5  rDev -27.6%

Interesting, but ultimately distasteful. Enjoy Gose very much, but found the lacto way too prominent to the extent that taste devolvd to sour milk aftertastes. Seemed a relatively nicely made beer. Would try the brewery again,.Maybe just a bottle that wasn't the best. (268 characters)

Photo of matjack85
3.5/5  rDev -7.9%

I got this as part of a build-your-own six pack for $9.99 at the Binny's store in Bloomingdale, IL. 12oz brown bottle with no freshness date.

The beer poured a cloudy yellow color with just a ½-finger of white head that dissipated in less than 30 seconds and leftr no lacing whatsoever.

The beer smelled like wheat, fruit, funk, and spice.

Wheaty flavor with a big lemon twang and hefty dose of coriander spice. Not much in the way of hop bitterness.

Light bodied with really high carbonation. Salty aftertaste.

A very different and interesting beer. Easy to drink with the low 4.3% abv. (601 characters)

Photo of avalon07
3.75/5  rDev -1.3%

A: Poured from a bottle to a cylinder glass. Had a pale yellow color and a cloudy texture. There was an inch and a half of fairly long-lasting, foamy head. OK lacing.

S: A typical gose smell of malt, wheat, light fruit and spices. Pretty good.

T: Tasted of coriander (a mild amount), salt, lemon, malt, and wheat. Not quite as vibrant as some gose flavors, but still sweet, light and refreshing.

M: A well-carbonated beer with a smooth, yet lively finish. Light-bodied.

O: While it's not the greatest gose I've ever had Troublesome is definitely a worthwhile beer. Drinkable. (580 characters)

Photo of patre_tim
4.18/5  rDev +10%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A: Honey gold and cloudy with lots of large and medium sized bubbles both within floating upward and clinging to the surface of the glass. 3 fingers of candy glass yellow head fades fast.

S: Corriander, sea salt, a briny breeze. A slight funky sour note. Quite Hoegaarden like.

T: Very briny and salty like sea water, and then sour, then fresh cut fruit, melons and lemon, slightly floral as well. Coriander is in there for sure as well.

M: Medium thick body, briny, medium low carbonation.

O: Well done brew. I am drinking this in the Chicago area tonight, August 12th, 2014. First saw this on Beer Temple with Chris Quinn from Chicago, when it apparently was not yet in bottles. Got this bottle in Asheville, NC and have been carrying it with me. I thought it was appropriate. Love this one. Perhaps my favourite of the Gose’s so far. (842 characters)

Photo of sjccmd
3.89/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pours hazy bright yellow with fluffy white head that dissipates quickly. Pretty good lacing.

Lemon meringue and wheat malt. MIneral notes in the background. Sour apple and ocean water (in a refreshing way). Bread crust

Lemons and wheat with a bit of that salty ocean water. Complex and refreshing. Could be more tart, but still nice.

Fairly highly carbonated and dry. Medium bodied. Quite refreshing.

Very nice. A little lacking on sourness, but great mineral character. (475 characters)

Photo of utopiajane
3.18/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This poured yellow and with a scant head of white foam. The nose was sweet with wheat and had some earthy coriander on it. It smelled like it had some tartness and some salt to it. Sweet lemon peel. The taste was malt forward. Sweet wheat which was dry and a bit crisp. But the coriander made it earthy and taste heavy. The lemon was sweet and I wanted to taste tartness. There was no saline or salty finish and it did not finish dry. It tasted like cereal grain after a while and was bland and dull. I did not think this was a good representation of the style. Even for a wheat beer it drank blandly and without much flavor. (625 characters)

Photo of dar482
3.84/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

The beer comes in a hazy bright lemon drop yellow.

The aroma is a punch of floral and corainder. Not much tart quality.

The flavor follows with spikes of corainder throughout. The tart quality is also lacking and moves on more like a saison. A good mouthfeel and lots of carbonation.

A different take on the style. A great session brew, although not exactly on point for a gose. (381 characters)

Photo of 2beerdogs
3.66/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to jconrick1 for this little surprise!!

While i'm no Gose expert, I found this one doing a few different things, but all interesting.

Pours hazy. Lite head dissipates quickly.
Smell has some hints of sour, funk, and citrusy coriander.
Taste has a subtle lacto sour, some lemony zest, and sea salt. Follows with hints of peppercorn.
Mouthfeel is thin, not very active in the mouth.
Overall I find this one interesting, and would like to try it again.

On a side note: I really like the artwork, layout & printing of the label. Very cool. (547 characters)

Photo of metter98
3.72/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: The beer is hazy light yellow in color. It poured with a short white head that quickly died down, leaving wispy lacing consistently covering the surface.
S: Light to moderate aromas of lemons and coriander are present in the nose.
T: The taste is similar to the smell and has flavors of lemons and spices along with hints of salt in the finish.
M: It feels light-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer is very easy to drink and has some refreshing properties; however the salt is only noticeable in the finish. (554 characters)

Photo of infinitebruner
3.92/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

August 1, 2014

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a completely unpretentious tulip.

This is my first gose.

A – Golden color, bordering on the turn to amber. It poured with about a centimeter of head which dissipated quickly. Very nice to look at, I would think I was about to drink a pale ale if I didn’t know better. Strong orange tint if you hold it up in front of a bright lamp.

S – Light but very much evident hints of sourness on the nose. Some peppery notes, and some mild citrus fruit, possible even tangerine or orange. I get a little bit of honey or rich sweetness, but hard to find and grasp it. At the end of the sniff I get lemon, possibly lime.

T – Very mild sourness from the lactobacillus, reminds me of punch at a party (unspiked), or flavored ginger ale, or limeade (without the sugary sweetness). I don’t get any of the salt.

M – Seems like very mild carbonation while it’s in my mouth, but on the finish there are a lot of bubbles. Very light, breezy, smooth off the tongue, with a nice citrus, faintly floral aftertaste. This is the only time I get the salt, and it’s actually a couple minutes after I last sipped.

O – I can tell that this is a very complex beer, and there are a lot of different things that seem to stand out. It’s like drinking a very light wheat beer, but that sour edge makes it a really great variation. I actually expected more salt flavor, but am glad it wasn’t there. Because of the low alcohol content, this is something I could sit and drink a LOT of. (1,524 characters)

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.17/5  rDev -16.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12 oz. bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Pale yellow body. Small white head. Very thin collar.

Smell - A bit of lemony citrus. Wheat. Light breadiness and spice.

Taste - Wheat. The faintest of acidity, but not even tangy. Spicy and bready in the middle. Light salty finish.

Mouthfeel - Light. Not sour at all. Medium low carbonation.

Overall - It's ok, but it just tastes like a salty wheat beer. (410 characters)

Photo of tastybeer
4.1/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Bright orange color, medium white head. Aroma is sweet, peppery, spicy, flowery, and generally pleasant. Very likable thus far.... Taste is crisply dry, floral and spice, nice white bread malty, and well balanced. Just a touch of salt makes things interesting. No overwhelming flavors and nicely light. Perfect for Spring and very easy to drink. (345 characters)

Photo of Roguer
3.82/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Cloudy, extremely pale yellow brew, topped by a thin white head. Little retention.

Strong aroma, significantly hinting at yeast and coriander. Banana, lemons, an herbal greenness, milky wheat, and a hint of sulfur.

Brew is a nice, refreshing, tart mix of a wit and a Weiss. There's a bit of a fruity spiciness and notable yeast. The nose is well represented on the tongue.

Very lively brew, silky, but medium-light bodied. Drinks easily and refreshing, but the wheat aspect keeps it a bit thicker and fuller than most beers at such a low ABV.

This is a very tasty and refreshing brew. (588 characters)

Photo of TMoney2591
3.79/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Served in a Lagunitas mason jar.

Nothing like a locally-made six-pack of gose on the shelves, right? Anyway, this stuff pours a mostly clear brassy gold topped by a finger or so of white foam. The nose comprises cracked wheat, coriander, orange zest, lemon zest, and a touch of black pepper. The taste brings in more of the same, a mild-but-still-definitely-very-present tartness pervading throughout, accentuating and complementing the wheat. The body is a strong light, with a light moderate carbonation and a wet feel. Overall, a pretty solid gose, something I could easily drink plenty of in the coming months. (615 characters)

Photo of MV_CHI-NS
4.78/5  rDev +25.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Appearance: Straw/deep citrine body with a crisp snow/ivory head.

Aroma: Very 'bready' with undercurrents of grain and light spice.

Taste: Spice, grass, anise, coriander, and lemon zest - all carried-through by a bready backbone.

Mouthfeel: Crisp and clean with a fair amount of carbonation; feels a bit flat as it goes down, however.

Overall: My first beer in the 'Gose' style, 'Troublesome' did not disappoint; a friend of mine assured me it was one of the best - particularly for summer. With that said, find some shade and try this - it will surely not disappoint. (572 characters)

Photo of mothman
4/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

White head with some lace. Color is a clear gold.

Flavor profile: Wheat with coriander, clove, and other spices. A bit of funk and mild sourness/tartness. Has a bit of barnyard/wet horse blanket. A little bet of lemon zest and citrus.

Mouthfeel: Smooth and clean. Crisp. Lighter bodied. Ends clean.

Overall, one of the better goses I have had. Very refreshing and drinkable with some excellent flavors. I could drink a lot of this one. (438 characters)

Photo of MDDMD
3.94/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-light yellow color with a nice white head and decent lacing

S-lemon, grainy malt, grassy, spices

T-lemon, bread dough, salt, coriander, grassy, hint of pepper

F-medium body with moderate carbonation, crisp and clean

O-solid Gose, easy drinking and good flavor profile (273 characters)

Photo of russpowell
3.97/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours an effervescent gold with a pinky of pearl colored head. Hazes up with alright lacing & head retention

S: Tartness, maybe some Spelt & faint lemon notes

T: Tartness, some saltyness with wet cereal notes up front. Some of the coriander come through as this warms with slight pepperiness & a little lemon as well, saltyness too. Finishes salty, slightly tart & with wet cereal

MF: Medium bodied, soft carbonation

Fairly on point for the style, easy to drink, solid but I like the one Choc makes more (508 characters)

Photo of notchucknorris
4.13/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A: Pours a pale golden color with just a faint touch of haze to it. A one finger bone white head settles fairly quickly, but each sip yields some nice tracks of lace.

S: Doughy malt, lemon, yeast and a touch of salt. The last gose I had was Westbrook's Gozu and the smell on that one absolutely rockets from this glass. Compared to that, this is almost devoid of smell at all. Still, what's there is pleasant.

T: Lemon, a touch of coriander and some ginger right away. The middle hovers between a sort of grainy, grassy hop bitterness and a salty sourness. Finish shows a kiss of salt, wheat and some grainy sweetness. Ends very clean. I could definitely drink a lot of this. (679 characters)

Photo of Ljudsignal
4.02/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a Lost Nation pint glass.

Pours a hazy straw-gold with a bone-white, finger-high head that dissipates in under a minute, leaving a fizzy ring of suds around the edge of the glass.

In the nose, strong lightly tart wheat and faintly sweet bready malts, lemon peel, dried coriander, and some salt.

In the mouth, lemon zest, doughy bread, crisp wheat, mild brine and candied lemon towards the back, faint pine and grassy hops.

Mouthfeel is fairly clean and crisp but a little wetter and thicker than I would have liked. The salt lends a touch of stickiness on the finish.

On the whole, an easy-going and eminently drinkable beer that nevertheless displays enough complexity and nuance to remain interesting. I could see myself drinking a lot of this over the summer. (798 characters)

Photo of smakawhat
4.04/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured from the bottle into a wheat ale glass.

Slightly opaque but a neat hue to this beer. Deep brass green with lemon edges, a nice little amount of view shows off the carbonation nicely. Head is fleeting at about three fingers, even pinhead bubbled and falls easily to a simple puck.

Real nice nose. Lemon and some briny salt tartness. Some dried spiced notes but a little buried. Sweet breaded bakery malts. Quite a nice bouquet.

Palate comes real nicely. Matching dough bread sweetness, mild salinity a bit and kind of grassy notes in the mid palate. Palate feel is a bit wet though, but flavors still manage to be captured. Big on the dough on the finish, but not so much chewy and popping texture. Little bit of lemon and flat soda on the front and mid palate as well.

Overall a pretty enjoyable and solid brew. (822 characters)

Photo of larryi86
3.88/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle poured into a Weizen Glass

A- A hazy golden color with a small white head.

S- Wheat, lemons, kind of sour, cloves, coriander, not getting any salt.

T- Tart lemons, wheat, coriander, hints of a little bit of salt in the finish.

M- Smooth, light body, crisp.

O- This is my first American Gose and I am finding it very enjoyable and easy to drink. Not as salty or tart as the few German Goses I have tried. Worth picking up. (439 characters)

Photo of spoony
3.95/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

From a 355 ml bottle into a pokal/stang glass.

A-The beer is clear with a lot of chunky carbonation visible in the liquid. There is about one finger of white head that hangs around for a minute and leaves no lacing. The beer is light-golden in color.

S-The aroma is wheat-forward with wet, musty wheat malt and lemon aromas that suggest a hefe-style beer. There is some saltiness underneath and vague coriander spiciness, too. Pleasant and understated.

T-The taste packs a bit more punch in terms of salt and spice, especially on the finish. The flavor reminds me somewhat of cedar and capers...and I say that in a good way. The front end retains some of the wheat and lemon flavor. Nice and refreshing.

M-The beer is light and semi-crisp. It is very easy to drink.

O-This is a nice take on the style. Unlike some American Gose, this doesn't overwhelm with salt, but lets it hang out in the background. It is very easy to drink and pretty refreshing, but there is just enough intrigue and flavor to keep my palate from getting bored. I will try more of this, I think. (1,072 characters)

Photo of JohnnyHopps
3.94/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance - The color of the gose was a straw color with a modest white head. The carbonation left little lacing on the sides of the glass.

Smell - The aroma was a little more reflective of a wheat beer than a gose. I smell the wheat, but not so much salt.

Taste - At the front I notice the wheat, which is dry and crisp. The coriander adds a nice dimension to the wheat. The salt is a little more mild than I like for a gose. The wheat lingers as slightly salty and sour in the aftertaste. The profile reminds me of Dancing Man Wheat with a little salt.

Mouthfeel - The wheat allows for a nice coating on the tongue. There is a the impression of thickness.

Overall - I am really growing to love this style, and this one is pretty accessible. I am not a session beer kind of guy, but I could drink a lot of these. (819 characters)

Troublesome from Off Color Brewing
85 out of 100 based on 123 ratings.