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New Holland Blue Goat - New Holland Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
82
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89 Ratings
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Ratings: 89
Reviews: 78
rAvg: 3.59
pDev: 13.93%
Wants: 8
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  ABV ?

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: deejaydan on 05-01-2006)
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Photo of auxiliary
2/5  rDev -44.3%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 1 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 1.5

appearance - Odd looking color, like a watery- caramel color. No head, and no lace here.

smell - Big hit of alcohol here and dark fruit here.

taste - Strong, some malt is present but not alot like other dopplebocks. Alcohol mostly takes the taste here.

mouthfeel - Light and watery here.

drinkability - I don't know about this, not sure how old this is. Shouldn't matter because the site said it was 7% so it should hold up. I think i had this in a trade 2 years ago and cellared it. I compared notes with recent positng and seems that it is not bad, but I didn't like this and was a drain pour for me. Was a strong beer and was not very complex, not much going on here and I have had some of the best dopplebocks that dont taste like this.

Photo of jsh420
2.08/5  rDev -42.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

bottle has the older style cap so this must be a couple years old

pours amber brown with 1/4 finger head that left some spotted lacing

smell is bad - almost macro bad watery malts that it

taste - watery sweet bready malts

mouthfeel is watery thin

drinkability - i didnt make it through half the bottle - rest down the drain

Photo of sweemzander
2.15/5  rDev -40.1%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

22oz. bottle poured into a pilsner glass. No bottled date.

(A)- Pours a clear reddish mahogany color that produced a minimal off-white to tan head. Tiny bits of particles are floating in there.

(S)- Slightly smoky with plenty of rich sweetness & bread. Bits of raisins. Very Very bread-like.

(T)- Again, very bread-like. Rather thin and raisin-like too. Sort of malty, but just ridiculously sugary sweet. Way too sugary!

(M)- Good carbonation, but just way too much sugar! It lacks the richness & maltiness of a good dopplebock. Very thin body.

(D)- Once again, New Holland offerings continue to be way too sugary sweet! This one lacks the depth of a good dopplebock. Thin and watery body. Sorry, but this just does not impress me at all.

Photo of adammills
2.45/5  rDev -31.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Honestly I expecting more from this beer. I have sampled others from New Hollands High Gravity series and this was just lacking. Malty and grainy, almost husky in that aspect, not very pleasing. Sweet chewy yet very little punch when it comes to flavor. There are other microbrews in Michigan that are making better doppelbocks, go in another direction.

Photo of SkeeterHawk
2.65/5  rDev -26.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

I have had this beer for a little while, and it sure seems like a good time to review it.

Appearance: Pours a cloudy burnt orange color with a very small head (1/*") of tan bubbles that faded back into the beer pretty quickly. There are quite a few bubbles rising, but they don't maintain the head. It doesn't have that characteristic clear Garnet color that Bocks have.

Aroma: My first impression was of dark cherry like an Old Ale gets after it has been "seasoned". The malt and alcohol are the predominant aromas, and I can even pick up a rather pronounced hop bouquet. It smells like Northern Brewer to me.

Taste: Well, the flavor is even more fruity than the aroma suggested. It really does come across to me more like an Old Ale than a Bock. The body is quite thin though giving the finish a rather bland and watery impression to linger until the alcohol sets in to warm you up for some time into the finish.

Opinion: Well, I am pretty critical of Bock beers, and this one falls short in a number of ways. It isn't a bad beer, and if I was told that this was an Old Ale or some such, it would get a lot higher marks. As it is, it is OK to drink. I am not sure that I am going to finish the bottle, though.

Photo of BeerFMAndy
2.7/5  rDev -24.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bottle split and poured into a Pilsner glass. No date or info.

Thanks to Sweemzander for sharing this brew.

A - Dark red amber and totally clear with a low tan head. Moderate retention with a thin layer and bits of lacing overlooking the loose bubbles.

S - Lots of sweet, lightly toasted malts on the nose with some honey. A good biscuity hint and some dark candi sugar. A decent dopplebock nose.

T - Thin flavor with a big sweetness that seems to come more from a dark candi sugar addition than from lots of malts, something a dopplebock should have and this one doesn't. A bit of a biscuity flavor too. Just not a whole lot there.

M - Thin and watery for a dopplebock with an artificial sweetness and a lightly dry finish.

D - It's an easy drinker because it's not rich like it should be. Thin flavor and mouthfeel...just, why would you want to have it? A poor example of a dopplebock.

Photo of expatsteve
2.75/5  rDev -23.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: Ruby/copper, with orange highlights. Great color. Light lacing following a virtually non-existent head. Medium clarity and medium viscosity.

Aroma: Chocolate and cocoa nibs, but not particular aromatic. Good roasted malt notes.

Taste: This has an odd and distracting grassy taste, with little initial malt development and not much by way of finish; as it warms, there is more chocolate, but the grassy flavor has developed into a cigar-like finish. While it gets better, the pine taste and the lack of complicating malts leaves this feeling flat.

Mouthfeel: The body is perfect for a doppelbock - only a little thicker than a lager, with light carbonation. Despite the taste, smooth on the way down.

Drinkability: I think that starting this beer out at room temperature might help develop the taste more, as the pine resin finish had built up to the point where even my last mouthfuls were funky. Seems to want to be a Troegenator, but fails to capture the smoother aspects of the style. I'll hope it's a bad bottle, and return to it if some passes my way in the future.

Photo of notafood
2.9/5  rDev -19.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

A - Poured into a pilsner glass, dark brown at the top of the glass tapering into dark orange at the bottom. Thin, thin, tan head that dissolved within seconds. Very cloudy. With light behind it, I can quite a bit of sediment floating around with the help of the carbonation.

S - Roasted malts and alcohol hit me up front. Probably some caramel, maybe a bit of chocolate. Kind of tame.

T - Caramel, raisins, sweet toasty maltyness. No hops in this one, of course. I haven't had too much New Holland, but I was expecting a bigger beer. This is a bit on the mediocre side.

M - A nice carbonation level that goes down sweet and smooth. The malts leave a pleasant dryness after a bit.

D - This isn't bad, and I think its a fine session beer, but I honestly would sooner look to the German breweries when i wanted a a good bock, and drinking this right now, I want a good bock.

Photo of Bighuge
2.9/5  rDev -19.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: Clear mahogany. Absence of CO2 visible. Thin light brown head. Virtually no lace.

Aroma: Sweet malts, bready malts, molasses.

Flavor: Light qualitites. Nothing stands out. Some sweet malts. A titch of vinegar. A little vegetal. Just something not quite right. Plus, all the thick, rich properties that I look for in a dopple just aren't there.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied. Syrupy. Very low carbonation.

Drinkability: I don't need another one of these. Too many good/great dopples out there to waste my time and liver on this.

Photo of joekfsu
2.93/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

22 oz bottle. Pours rusty amber with 1 cm off white head that is mostly diminishing. Smells like a barleywine mixed with cherry cola. Aroma of sour fruits and cherry. Initial taste, like it smells, like cherry cola barleywine. Finishes much like it starts but with more balance from the hops. Minimal lacing, light carbonation, medium body, and alcohol was hidden. Overall not too impressive.

Photo of AltBock
2.93/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

22 oz. bomber bottle that was silk screened blue color all around the bottle. On the front has a close up of a blue goat. The goat has a look on his face like he's about to head butt you or he's high as a kite. It's too hard to tell what he's going to do. On the side they have their signature Windmill symbol with the Govt. warning below that. On the back they talk about the history of the Blue Goat and below that is a mini paragraph of information about the beer. Don't bother to look for a date or batch number on the bottle because it doesn't exist. Other than that it's still a nice silk screened bottle with the funny high as a kite goat on the front.

Appearance: When poured into my Doppelbock Pilsener glass, the beer was a ruby red with a hint of chestnut brown in it. The head of foam was white and very thin. It dissipated away quite fast leaving behind some rings and no lace around the glass. Most Doppelbocks are more Chestnut Brown than Ruby Red color, but not this one, it's a little bit different.

Smell: To even get the slightest hint of smell, I had to swirl it around the glass for a while. Even then I thought the aroma was mild at best. What I got was some sweet roasted malt, hint of caramel, and a few hops in the background.

Taste: It was mild in flavor and even body. I thought this beer would make up for itself after the appearance and smell, but I guess not. All of this beer had to offer was some roasted malt, nuts, hint of molasses, and the slightest hint of hops in the background. I thought that since was one of New Holland's High Gravity Series that it would have more flavor than this, but guess again.

Mouthfeel: It was way too thin and mild especially for a Doppelbock and something they labeled as "High Gravity." There was also a muted aftertaste of hops in there too.

Drinkability: It was a good thing that I didn't pay full price for this beer. I went to a place that was selling it below the price of what other stores were selling it for. I thought it was pretty disappointing and the only thing that was "high" was the goat on the label and not the flavor or body of the beer inside. If you love mild Doppelbocks, then this would be your favorite!

Photo of cynical1027
3/5  rDev -16.4%

Photo of scruffwhor
3.03/5  rDev -15.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Appearance- Pours a wafer thin head with under-average retention and quickly goes to nothingness after a couple sips. The color is a deep russet amber with highlights of merlot in the middle of the brew. There was some alright bubbling in this deep red brew. But this was a sunpar appearance for a Dopplebock.

Smell- Very bland compared to all other dopplebocks I've had up to this one. There were a few fruity/malty hints. But those were very muted and hard to discern.

Taste- Starts out with some muted plums then moves to a blended dark fruit with carbonation and light hopping. The finish is a very muted roasted malt.

Mouthfeel- A little watery and slightly adjunct-like with the first sips of this beer. But still that overall sweet dopplebock feel was retained throughout 50% of the brew. The carbonation earned some brownie points.

Photo of ZAP
3.05/5  rDev -15%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pretty average doppel....orangeish brown color...toffee and caramel notes on the nose..

Low carbonation...body is about medium..a little syruppy tasting...

Sweet flavor..caramel and toffee with a slight off flavor of sweet apples..some bready notes as well.

Overall this is OK...that's about it...kind of a muddled sweet syruppy concoction..drinkable but not seekable...

Photo of BeerBuilder
3.08/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Pours to a reddish-brown color with a tan head that diminishes to a ring. It leaves spotty lacing. The aroma is sweet, caramel malts, bready, and a bit fruity.

The flavor is very sweet and somewhat tangy. It has the sweet caramel malt flavor throughout, with a bit of breadiness and fruitiness. It is low in carbonation and syrupy. It is too sweet and syrupy for me; I'll pass on this one again.

Photo of meathookjones
3.15/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Body is reddish brown with a small covering of tan bubbles that disappear fairly quickly. No lacing left on the glass either. Lots of sweet caramel notes in the aroma with some fruit lurking in the back. Very little roast or anything else to balance out the big sweetness. The flavor was very similar with strong caramel sweet notes and ripe dark fruits mainly. Very light roastiness in there around the finish but overall a bit too sweet with not much going on it in. A bit on the thin side and easy drinking until it gets to be boring. A 12oz of this would have worked better for me.

Photo of peabody
3.2/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

pours out like a reddish brown rich tea with a small amount of just off white suds. No lacing.
Smell is caramel and fruit like raisin or plum. Also a hint of chocolate and coffee.
Taste is a little sweet at first but the hops soon hit you and the flavor gets a little dirty. Caramel and coffee and alcohol with hops that fade in and out throughout the aftertaste.
You can really feel the alcohol here whatever the ABV is.
Mouthfeel is warm and hoppy with sweet alcohol coming through.
I could drink one or two at a setting but no more.

Photo of KAF
3.25/5  rDev -9.5%

Photo of khiasmus
3.3/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A- Dark amber, looks almost like an ESB. Cream colored head that settles to a ring and leaves a small amount of lacing and a few legs.

S- Sweet malt, some dark fruits, caramel, honey, and molasses. no alcohol... surprising.

T- Slightly sweet up front and a bit yeasty. A little weak for a doppelbock, though. Finishes long, but not very strong... a very faint hint of honey and molasses.

M- A little thin, with low carbonation.

D- Not what I've come to expect from New Holland, or a doppelbock, but it's weak and thin, so you could probably drink a few of them.

Photo of kmpitz2
3.38/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 ox bottle. Pours a slightly rubied deep amber color with a small head that falls quickly to a very patchy slick over top of the liquid. This one has good clarity, but there is no apparent carbonation at all. I'd like a little better head and definately some carbonation to let me know this one is alive. It just looks sluggish in my glass with no activity at all. Taking a deep inhale, I find some deep earthy and toasty notes. I also get some weak tea aroma in there as well. There is not a lot more than that in this one. Even with a nice swirl in my glass, the aromas are not jumping out and grabbing me. Sipping this, I find mostly notes of toasted bread, with a slight earrthyness to it. Not bad, but fairly one-dimensional in my book. The aftertaste has some slight caramel tones to it, and is much more sweet that the initial sip. It almost has a slight smoked peat quality to it as well, but I think that is just a product of the melanoidans, not any smoked or peated malt. Mouthfeel is a nice solid moderate to thick, with next to zero carbonation. The ABV is not listed here or on the bottle, but this is part of their high gravity series, so I would expect that this one has a decent amount of alcohol in it. The flavors are not bad, but this one really just seems lifeless overall. It lacks carbonation, had almost no head, and just doesn't look alive in my glass. I would pass on this one again.

Photo of Golden2wenty1
3.4/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Bomber shared with expatsteve while viewing a battle of attrition between Switzerland and Ukraine.

Pours an attractive dark copper-orange with a khaki head that I struggled to pour and fades quickly. Nose has notes of choco-grain roasted malt and a borderline funky grassy finish. Taste starts off, for the briefest moment, with that kind of yummy choco-malt but crashes down to earth with a flat, grass-malt, ephemeral, Bud-Select-like hollow finish. Mouthfeel is thin and without the body a dopplebock should exert. A rather disappointing effort here from New Holland. Not particularly to style and not particularly great on its own. Kind of drinkable, but for $7 a bomber we're reaching Three Floyds "for Christ's sake" overpriced territory.

Photo of akorsak
3.4/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A 650 mL bottle from Joseph's Beverage in Toledo, OH.

A: The doppelbock is a dark red-brown color, looking a brighter red at the narrower parts of my mud and darker red, near brown, at the wider parts. A finger's worth of head appeared on pour but it quickly drifted away.

S: The nose is nice and malty, thick with grainy notes that have a sweeter green grape aromas.

T: The flavor is thick with grains, full of cereal flavors that range from strong to stronger. Toast flavors, slightly burnt bread and tart alefruits swirl together to create a bid taste that isn't afraid to show its strength. There is an appreciable lack of alcohol, which assists the taste but also tells me that it is a little weak.

M: Graininess, lots of malts without much hop or alcohol kick.

D: This is not one of my favorite styles, so it is tough to judge the drinkability. I'd probably reach for a Celebrator or a Troegenator first.

Photo of orsulacp
3.4/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The appearance was dark copper with no head and a little cloudy. The nose had roasted malt, a little spiciness, maybe some nutmeg. The taste is malty, a little bit of caramel and some spiciness. Low carbonation giving a smooth body, fairly drinkable with a clean finish. There just isn't enough in the taste department.

Photo of DrJay
3.43/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Received from Viggo as part of BC2. Thanks Eric!
Reddish brown with a slight haze, there was a bit of foam off the pour, but head retention wasn't that great and there wasn't much lacing. Very malty aroma, kind of nutty, but not much malt complexity. Fairly clean with just a little ripe fruit in the background. Low bitterness, lots of sweet malt, hint of caramel and fruit, light alcohol and hop bitterness towards the end. Medium bodied with very low carbonation, fine bubbles. Fairly average offering, not quite up to the standards I expect from New Holland.

Photo of BabaJohn
3.43/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This one grew on me as I drank. The Goat poured dark and translucent, with a thin, fading head. It smelled faintly sweet with perhaps a hint of berries. Up front the taste was less sweet than the nose suggested (almost sharp and a bit sour), with that sweetness coming midway followed by an earthy aftertaste. The feel was fairly thin with some noticeable carbonation that vanished as the beer aired out. All in all it went down easy and I learned to appreciate it’s subtly shifting tastes the more I consumed. Not a beer to ignore, but it wouldn't be my first choice given some options.

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New Holland Blue Goat from New Holland Brewing Company
82 out of 100 based on 89 ratings.