New Holland Blue Goat - New Holland Brewing Company
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3.68/5 rDev +2.5%
Dark orange-bronze with an infusion of candy apple red. I hate to make assumptions based on color, but I don't think Blue Goat will be overly roasted or chocolate malty. The compact cap is the color of brown sugar mousse and, unfortunately, deposits no more than a short collar of lace. The beautiful color of the beer, especially when backlit with late afternoon sunshine, is enough to make me pleased with the appearance.
The nose isn't very doppelbock-like. First of all, it isn't powerful enough. I pick up a meager amount of earthy, nutty malt (Munich) and very little else. As long as this goat comes through for me on the palate, though, we'll be best pals. Note: warming expands and amplifies the nose enough for me to grant the next highest score.
I've had New Holland beer. I like (most) New Holland beer. New Holland can do better than this. As expected, Blue Goat is more of a big bock than it is a doppelbock. I'm probably in the minority in making this distinction, but I think doppelbocks ought to be more dark malty than a plain ol' bock. I want the flavors that are produced when barley is roasted, dammit!
The flavor profile is centered on dark caramel and oven-roasted nuts more than on chocolate. Actually, as the beer warms a few degrees (to an estimated 60) I'm finding a little more to like. At least my palate is no longer butting heads with this little bugger. Ultimately, this is an overly simple version that cries out for a recipe change. More malt, darker malt, more types of malt, more hops... how the hell should I know? Maybe all of the above.
Dark caramel shares the stage with dark fruit, something that I didn't really notice until the past few ounces. I'll say figs and dates since it isn't dark enough for raisins to be a valid comparison. Good job on the alcohol masking. My palate can't locate it, but my brain is beginning to feel its presence.
I like the mouthfeel. I've had bigger doppels and I've had more silky smooth doppels, but this one seems to match up well with the rest of the beer's attributes. The increasingly viscous finish is nice and I don't mind the subdued carbonation. In fact, I prefer it.
Blue Goat Doppelbock grew on me over the course of the bomber. It's a better than decent version of a style that varies widely from caramel malty to dark malty. I've tried not to let the fact that I prefer the latter sway me too much. In the end, I'll give it a tepid thumbs up.
02-09-2007 22:56:45 | More by BuckeyeNation
4.22/5 rDev +17.5%
A fine selection for my 1000th review. And, always a sucker for a Dopplebock. Never a disapointment with New Holland. Blue Goat starts off, and reamains, very malty sweet and tons of rich ripe fruit flavors. Deep ruby colored with good head retention and lacing. Strong fruitcake flavors of figs, dates, nuts, and a hint of cherries. Moderately viscous and very sweet with caramel, toffee, and molassas. Hopped for a solid bittering balance and a earty, dirty flavor and musky aroma. Sweet and thick with the texture and a silky, nearly oily feel. Finishes with a, you guessed it, sweet / malt lingering. Really liked this beer.
09-04-2006 19:43:02 | More by BEERchitect
4/5 rDev +11.4%
Deep, dark crimson hued, under a tight, ring of cocoa-tinged foam...looks nice..
Caramelly nose, toffeeish, too, sweet and luscious. Nice, again.
Taste: A bit blunt. No, I meant bland. Sweet, and fruity. Dark, malty, thick toffee...a bit flat, this one, though. Nice body, fairly full, but lacking a certain zing. Tasty, but doesn't feel like a true doppelbock. Close, though.
Not bad, I did say "yummy, yum", right? If not, here you go..."yummy, yum"...but needs more, sorry to say. Just not really grabbing me.
Although, it grows on ya...really does...
09-06-2006 08:11:45 | More by feloniousmonk
4.1/5 rDev +14.2%
The beer pours a ruby red color with a thick frothy tan head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is great. It has a warm burnt caramel scent with some nutty hints. The taste is good also. It has a smooth malty flavor that goes down silky smooth and finishes dry with some residual sweetness. It's rich and flavorful, but not too strong. The mouthfeel is fine. It is a full bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This is a damn fine brew and another fine offering from New Holland. It's easy drinking and full of malt flavor.
03-06-2007 02:43:32 | More by WesWes
3.4/5 rDev -5.3%
A 650 mL bottle from Joseph's Beverage in Toledo, OH.
A: The doppelbock is a dark red-brown color, looking a brighter red at the narrower parts of my mud and darker red, near brown, at the wider parts. A finger's worth of head appeared on pour but it quickly drifted away.
S: The nose is nice and malty, thick with grainy notes that have a sweeter green grape aromas.
T: The flavor is thick with grains, full of cereal flavors that range from strong to stronger. Toast flavors, slightly burnt bread and tart alefruits swirl together to create a bid taste that isn't afraid to show its strength. There is an appreciable lack of alcohol, which assists the taste but also tells me that it is a little weak.
M: Graininess, lots of malts without much hop or alcohol kick.
D: This is not one of my favorite styles, so it is tough to judge the drinkability. I'd probably reach for a Celebrator or a Troegenator first.
12-08-2007 00:20:19 | More by akorsak
3.68/5 rDev +2.5%
(Served in a large snifter)
A- This beer has a chestnut brown body with a bubbly thick head of light tan foam. There is a strong carbonation of tiny bubbles racing through the clear body.
S- The smell of caramel malt is sweet with a slight alcohol smell in the finish.
T- The taste of pot caramel with some dark roasted malt has a strong sweetness with a dark toffee note in the background. There is a faint tang to the malt flavor and a soft warmth from hops in the finish.
M- The beer has a medium-full mouthfeel with a slight creamy texture and a soft fizz at the finish. There is a very slight alcohol warmth that helps give depth to the shy hop bitterness.
D- This beer is ok but not very exciting. It is a bit too sweet and the malt flavors are a bit odd. The hops were very subtle but still had a nice resents.
06-15-2006 16:27:42 | More by rhoadsrage
3.48/5 rDev -3.1%
22oz bottle obtained via trade with CRJMellor. Thanks for the opportunity...
Poured into a large glass chalice, formed little to no head over the clear burgundy copper brew. Just swirls on the surface and a few bubbles around the rim almost from the get-go, and lacing is more or less non-existent. Aroma is syrupy malts and cherry fruitiness. Taste is nutty sweetness upfront, some fruitiness in the middle, and a slickery slightly warming close. Mouthfeel and drinkability are okay, but no real excitement with this one. Not a bad brew, just nothing that gets me jumping out of my seat to look for more either.
11-03-2006 02:03:27 | More by ppoitras
2.9/5 rDev -19.2%
Appearance: Clear mahogany. Absence of CO2 visible. Thin light brown head. Virtually no lace.
Aroma: Sweet malts, bready malts, molasses.
Flavor: Light qualitites. Nothing stands out. Some sweet malts. A titch of vinegar. A little vegetal. Just something not quite right. Plus, all the thick, rich properties that I look for in a dopple just aren't there.
Mouthfeel: Medium bodied. Syrupy. Very low carbonation.
Drinkability: I don't need another one of these. Too many good/great dopples out there to waste my time and liver on this.
10-17-2006 03:36:02 | More by Bighuge
3.43/5 rDev -4.5%
Received from Viggo as part of BC2. Thanks Eric!
Reddish brown with a slight haze, there was a bit of foam off the pour, but head retention wasn't that great and there wasn't much lacing. Very malty aroma, kind of nutty, but not much malt complexity. Fairly clean with just a little ripe fruit in the background. Low bitterness, lots of sweet malt, hint of caramel and fruit, light alcohol and hop bitterness towards the end. Medium bodied with very low carbonation, fine bubbles. Fairly average offering, not quite up to the standards I expect from New Holland.
09-29-2007 00:51:31 | More by DrJay
British Columbia (Canada)
3.53/5 rDev -1.7%
A: Deep, deep, amber-brown. Pours with a light tan head, no retention, hints of leg/lace.
S: Spicy hops (a little more than most), dark fruit, dark bread, nutty, brown sugar.
T: Brown sugar; dark/caramelized raisins; prune; nutshell-like bitterness; The bitterness seems to come from the malt, but there's plenty of spicy, noble hop flavour. Warming finish.
M: Moderately full body is a little chewier than some Bavarian versions, but it's not at all sweet or cloying. Moderate carbonation.
D: It's a meal, but it's the alcohol warmth that inhibits the sessionability.
10-04-2006 23:30:05 | More by Derek
3.03/5 rDev -15.6%
Appearance- Pours a wafer thin head with under-average retention and quickly goes to nothingness after a couple sips. The color is a deep russet amber with highlights of merlot in the middle of the brew. There was some alright bubbling in this deep red brew. But this was a sunpar appearance for a Dopplebock.
Smell- Very bland compared to all other dopplebocks I've had up to this one. There were a few fruity/malty hints. But those were very muted and hard to discern.
Taste- Starts out with some muted plums then moves to a blended dark fruit with carbonation and light hopping. The finish is a very muted roasted malt.
Mouthfeel- A little watery and slightly adjunct-like with the first sips of this beer. But still that overall sweet dopplebock feel was retained throughout 50% of the brew. The carbonation earned some brownie points.
06-24-2006 02:41:08 | More by scruffwhor
2.7/5 rDev -24.8%
22 oz bottle split and poured into a Pilsner glass. No date or info.
Thanks to Sweemzander for sharing this brew.
A - Dark red amber and totally clear with a low tan head. Moderate retention with a thin layer and bits of lacing overlooking the loose bubbles.
S - Lots of sweet, lightly toasted malts on the nose with some honey. A good biscuity hint and some dark candi sugar. A decent dopplebock nose.
T - Thin flavor with a big sweetness that seems to come more from a dark candi sugar addition than from lots of malts, something a dopplebock should have and this one doesn't. A bit of a biscuity flavor too. Just not a whole lot there.
M - Thin and watery for a dopplebock with an artificial sweetness and a lightly dry finish.
D - It's an easy drinker because it's not rich like it should be. Thin flavor and mouthfeel...just, why would you want to have it? A poor example of a dopplebock.
11-22-2009 17:21:35 | More by BeerFMAndy
3.53/5 rDev -1.7%
Pours dark brown with a maroon tint around the edges. Thick tan head and nice lacing. Aroma of earthy malt and caramel. Medium-bodied with a toasted grain and malt flavor. Some nuts and dark fruit as well. The taste is pretty good but doesnt have a lot of legs. Sweet, malty finish with a touch of hops, and again it falls off pretty quickly. Not really a bad Doppelbock but I was a little let down.
06-01-2006 16:02:50 | More by Dogbrick
4.2/5 rDev +17%
Tawny mahogany, hey that rhymes! More brown in the center and very thick and hazed in a wonderful deep glow. Soft slimmer capping of stained yellow foam sits atop to stay briefly leaving an always present skim and collaring. Only a few small splotches and globs of lace stick low in the glass.
Aroma is light but hefty of matly goodness carrying gooey thick caramel candy, molasses, nuts, and toffee notes mixing with a bit of figgy raisin paste fruityness.
Taste is quite solid if not more than that. Very substantial malting here. Favorably round, creamy and nearly full in the mouth. The finish is the only downfall as it petters out with a weakened pause of toffee and some gooey left over cloying of dark fruity jelly and caramel. Overall though this makes the cut for a good dopplebock with solid molasses, toffee, caramel, dark fruity, chewy, bready goodness. I quite like it.
Feel is smooth and semi chewy with one soft silky touch as it goes down. Again the only thing is a need for an extra boost in the finish and perhaps a bit more roasty/toasty aspects and notes to its character.
Solid and drinkable by many refills of the pint glass. Its kinda a bummer that its a bit pricey.
09-25-2007 02:12:55 | More by tavernjef
3.05/5 rDev -15%
Pretty average doppel....orangeish brown color...toffee and caramel notes on the nose..
Low carbonation...body is about medium..a little syruppy tasting...
Sweet flavor..caramel and toffee with a slight off flavor of sweet apples..some bready notes as well.
Overall this is OK...that's about it...kind of a muddled sweet syruppy concoction..drinkable but not seekable...
11-10-2006 05:34:00 | More by ZAP
2.15/5 rDev -40.1%
22oz. bottle poured into a pilsner glass. No bottled date.
(A)- Pours a clear reddish mahogany color that produced a minimal off-white to tan head. Tiny bits of particles are floating in there.
(S)- Slightly smoky with plenty of rich sweetness & bread. Bits of raisins. Very Very bread-like.
(T)- Again, very bread-like. Rather thin and raisin-like too. Sort of malty, but just ridiculously sugary sweet. Way too sugary!
(M)- Good carbonation, but just way too much sugar! It lacks the richness & maltiness of a good dopplebock. Very thin body.
(D)- Once again, New Holland offerings continue to be way too sugary sweet! This one lacks the depth of a good dopplebock. Thin and watery body. Sorry, but this just does not impress me at all.
11-26-2009 13:57:33 | More by sweemzander
4.05/5 rDev +12.8%
Enjoyed from a 22oz bomber bottle... Pours out an enticing deep-chestnut hue, with some twinkles of garnet near the edges. Was clear within, and the head was tan, creamy and fine, though thin - about 1/8". Lasts basically as surface cover, with a touch of lacing. This Goat was quite aromatic, with solid malty-toffee notes wafting out. Smells like when entering a confectionary... quite yummy! Body was a medium-plus, almost bordering on being chewy. It was quite smooth traversing the palate; a solid mouthfeel.
Flavor was rich and malty right from the get-go, with good sweetness without being cloying at all. Leaves a tasty coating in the mouth, with caramel all over. The hops are restrained, though some bitterness does sneak through and appear in the background. Hops in the Goat are more in a cameo role, just to keep things honest. Overall, this DB could possibly be bolder and maltier, though it is still a solid Bier.
I had some of this at the June ABF, plus another bottle a few weeks back. In both cases I was a bit less than impressed, but this one left a good impression.
appearance: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | mouthfeel: 4.5 | drinkability: 4
07-24-2006 12:58:27 | More by Bierman9
4.03/5 rDev +12.3%
Appearance - a warm, brownish-red amber pour. A thin head of light tan bubbles reduces to some stray action across the surface.
Aroma - a caramel, raisiny, fruity nose. Reminds me a bit of bread crusts, too. A bit light but inviting.
Taste - much like the aroma - nutty, caramel, malty sweetness. A nice roasty finish.
Mouthfeel - smooth and well-bodied, right on for the style.
Drinkability - a good fireside brew, smooth and drinkable.
01-12-2007 20:32:21 | More by brewdlyhooked13
3.85/5 rDev +7.2%
22 oz. Brown/amber pour, very minimal off white head. Some sweet aromas, malt, caramel. Taste is some sweet malt, caramel, toffee, yellow raisin. Body is a little thin, the flavors are a bit subdued from this also. Finish is a little lingering sweetness. Overall just a little wishy washy. Not bad but kind of average. I believe there is some age on this since the white caps as far as I know have been retired for a while now. A drinkable example of the style, but not outstanding.
02-28-2009 05:17:24 | More by Bung
New Holland Blue Goat from New Holland Brewing Company
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