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New Holland Blue Goat - New Holland Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
82
good

89 Ratings
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Ratings: 89
Reviews: 78
rAvg: 3.59
pDev: 13.93%
Wants: 8
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  ABV ?

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: deejaydan on 05-01-2006)
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Photo of ZAP
3.05/5  rDev -15%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pretty average doppel....orangeish brown color...toffee and caramel notes on the nose..

Low carbonation...body is about medium..a little syruppy tasting...

Sweet flavor..caramel and toffee with a slight off flavor of sweet apples..some bready notes as well.

Overall this is OK...that's about it...kind of a muddled sweet syruppy concoction..drinkable but not seekable...

ZAP, Nov 10, 2006
Photo of Callenak
3.63/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Picked up a bomber when I was in Painesville, OH for work.

22oz bottle poured into a tulip glass. Pours a deep reddish brown color with a small head and light carbonation. A very attractive beer. Smell is all malt. Sweet caramel a little roastiness and maybe a hint of vanilla. A very think and malty taste. A slight alcohol hit, but just warming not overpowering. Not sure what the percentage is on the beer, but if it's a dopple, probably in the 8% range. Dopples are one of my favorite German styles, and this was no let down. A very enjoyable and drinkable beer. Doubt it's sold out here in CA though, so probably going to be a one time beer for me.

Callenak, Nov 08, 2006
Photo of ppoitras
3.48/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle obtained via trade with CRJMellor. Thanks for the opportunity...

Poured into a large glass chalice, formed little to no head over the clear burgundy copper brew. Just swirls on the surface and a few bubbles around the rim almost from the get-go, and lacing is more or less non-existent. Aroma is syrupy malts and cherry fruitiness. Taste is nutty sweetness upfront, some fruitiness in the middle, and a slickery slightly warming close. Mouthfeel and drinkability are okay, but no real excitement with this one. Not a bad brew, just nothing that gets me jumping out of my seat to look for more either.

ppoitras, Nov 03, 2006
Photo of BeerBuilder
3.08/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Pours to a reddish-brown color with a tan head that diminishes to a ring. It leaves spotty lacing. The aroma is sweet, caramel malts, bready, and a bit fruity.

The flavor is very sweet and somewhat tangy. It has the sweet caramel malt flavor throughout, with a bit of breadiness and fruitiness. It is low in carbonation and syrupy. It is too sweet and syrupy for me; I'll pass on this one again.

BeerBuilder, Oct 18, 2006
Photo of Bighuge
2.9/5  rDev -19.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: Clear mahogany. Absence of CO2 visible. Thin light brown head. Virtually no lace.

Aroma: Sweet malts, bready malts, molasses.

Flavor: Light qualitites. Nothing stands out. Some sweet malts. A titch of vinegar. A little vegetal. Just something not quite right. Plus, all the thick, rich properties that I look for in a dopple just aren't there.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied. Syrupy. Very low carbonation.

Drinkability: I don't need another one of these. Too many good/great dopples out there to waste my time and liver on this.

Bighuge, Oct 17, 2006
Photo of neenerzig
4.38/5  rDev +22%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

To my knowledge this is the first Doppelbock I have ver tried and certainly the first Doppelbock I have reviewed here. I bought at 22 oz. bomber of this last night. It pours a dark amber brown color with a tan head about one or two fingers thick. The head is all but gone about 3 minutes after being poured. Leaves some ok lacing. Aromas of malt, spice, caramel, dark fruit, hints of bread and maple or brown sugar are all present here. Has a sweet malty taste with hints of caramel, nuts, dark fruit, bread and spice. Has a medium body and a nice smooth and crisp mouthfeel with moderate to heavy carbonation. Easy to drink in a good way. An excellent beer! I certainly enjoyed my first Bock.

Eric

neenerzig, Oct 08, 2006
Photo of Derek
3.53/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Deep, deep, amber-brown. Pours with a light tan head, no retention, hints of leg/lace.

S: Spicy hops (a little more than most), dark fruit, dark bread, nutty, brown sugar.

T: Brown sugar; dark/caramelized raisins; prune; nutshell-like bitterness; The bitterness seems to come from the malt, but there's plenty of spicy, noble hop flavour. Warming finish.

M: Moderately full body is a little chewier than some Bavarian versions, but it's not at all sweet or cloying. Moderate carbonation.

D: It's a meal, but it's the alcohol warmth that inhibits the sessionability.

Derek, Oct 05, 2006
Photo of Oxymoron
4.05/5  rDev +12.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Is it a sad goat? The beer isn’t blue, that’s why I ask. Instead the pours is a mostly a cloudy amber color with twinges of red. A decent head but hides to the edges and ok lacing.

The smell has a great sweet malty aroma atypical of bocks. A syrupy essence with a touch of maple touch and a bit caramel and toffee. Some notes of breadness and a bit of yeasty under tones.

The taste is a good example of a bock. Sweet malty flavors with no bitterness to bounce back. The malt has a light caramel taste with some creamy after flavors. In the background there were some figs and fruity notes. A light plum flavor that comes out more as you drink the beer. I would have thought more yeast flavors but blended really well.

The body is light on this one with a somewhat wispy but not quiet watery feel. A decent body though. The creamy flavor helps support the body. I wouldn’t be sad for this blue goat.

Oxymoron, Sep 27, 2006
Photo of peabody
3.2/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

pours out like a reddish brown rich tea with a small amount of just off white suds. No lacing.
Smell is caramel and fruit like raisin or plum. Also a hint of chocolate and coffee.
Taste is a little sweet at first but the hops soon hit you and the flavor gets a little dirty. Caramel and coffee and alcohol with hops that fade in and out throughout the aftertaste.
You can really feel the alcohol here whatever the ABV is.
Mouthfeel is warm and hoppy with sweet alcohol coming through.
I could drink one or two at a setting but no more.

peabody, Sep 15, 2006
Photo of feloniousmonk
4/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Deep, dark crimson hued, under a tight, ring of cocoa-tinged foam...looks nice..

Caramelly nose, toffeeish, too, sweet and luscious. Nice, again.

Taste: A bit blunt. No, I meant bland. Sweet, and fruity. Dark, malty, thick toffee...a bit flat, this one, though. Nice body, fairly full, but lacking a certain zing. Tasty, but doesn't feel like a true doppelbock. Close, though.

Not bad, I did say "yummy, yum", right? If not, here you go..."yummy, yum"...but needs more, sorry to say. Just not really grabbing me.

Although, it grows on ya...really does...

feloniousmonk, Sep 06, 2006
Photo of BEERchitect
4.22/5  rDev +17.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A fine selection for my 1000th review. And, always a sucker for a Dopplebock. Never a disapointment with New Holland. Blue Goat starts off, and reamains, very malty sweet and tons of rich ripe fruit flavors. Deep ruby colored with good head retention and lacing. Strong fruitcake flavors of figs, dates, nuts, and a hint of cherries. Moderately viscous and very sweet with caramel, toffee, and molassas. Hopped for a solid bittering balance and a earty, dirty flavor and musky aroma. Sweet and thick with the texture and a silky, nearly oily feel. Finishes with a, you guessed it, sweet / malt lingering. Really liked this beer.

BEERchitect, Sep 04, 2006
Photo of meathookjones
3.15/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Body is reddish brown with a small covering of tan bubbles that disappear fairly quickly. No lacing left on the glass either. Lots of sweet caramel notes in the aroma with some fruit lurking in the back. Very little roast or anything else to balance out the big sweetness. The flavor was very similar with strong caramel sweet notes and ripe dark fruits mainly. Very light roastiness in there around the finish but overall a bit too sweet with not much going on it in. A bit on the thin side and easy drinking until it gets to be boring. A 12oz of this would have worked better for me.

meathookjones, Aug 31, 2006
Photo of TastyTaste
3.78/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Appearance: Dark brown clear body, pretty much in line with what the style should be. Head is creamy and off white, fades fast.

Smell: Brown sugar, roasted malts, vanilla, brown sugar, pungent.

Taste: Malty and sweet, thick, with a slightly woody flavor. Vanilla and brown sugar are also there. Yes, you can definitely taste the alcohol, but this beer is weird, and I think in a...good way. It's hard to figure out what this beer is doing.

Drinkability: Is this a really good dopplebock, or a really bad one? I think it is good, the flavors are interesting, but a little syrupy

TastyTaste, Aug 31, 2006
Photo of ADR
3.7/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thick deep tawny brown color, small yellowish head of short staying-power. Just a few trace marks for lace. Malty sweet aroma, biscuits and just a touch of fruity brightness. Mouthfeel is medium, just slighty sticky, with very low carbonation. Smooth consistant flavor,slight maple and a dusty cocoa tone from start to finish. Some of the tang from the smell transitions to the taste, almost a pineapple impression. No appreciable hops, as expected. Pretty enjoyable,not complex but without a deep smooth maltiness that I like in my favorite Doppelbocks, but there is a slight nutiness that's interesting here, especially noticeable on warming.

ADR, Aug 27, 2006
Photo of DaveFL1976
4.2/5  rDev +17%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I'm suprised at the rather low rating this beer is receiving.
Then again, I've been less-than impressed with some of New Holland's bottles (especially of Dragonsmilk) so I can understand why there might be some variation in reviews.
Anyways, I had this on tap at the brewery. It poured a dark ruby red/mahogany color. Unfortunatley there wasn't much of a head on the beer. The smell is what you'd expect and hope for in a doppelbock. Sweet, caramelly, a bit of alcohol warmth and malty sweet roastyness. Very nice. The taste was impressive. Sweet and inviting. Oh so creamy. A bit of alcohol warmth to balance things out. Medium mouthfeel with a bit of stickyness. A nice brew!

DaveFL1976, Aug 24, 2006
Photo of ultralarry2006
3.5/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 22 oz. bomber. Left less a one finger head that quickly disappeared, and left no lacing. Body was garnet.

Smell - toasty malt, hearty dark breads, plums, cherries, and caramel.

Taste - same as the smell. Dark fruits like cherries and plums, caramel, and dark breads.

Mouthfeel - medium fullness, low carbonation.

Drinkability - this is decent, not great. It goes down well. It would be more sessionable if it was more intensely flavorful.

ultralarry2006, Jul 30, 2006
Photo of kmpitz2
3.38/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 ox bottle. Pours a slightly rubied deep amber color with a small head that falls quickly to a very patchy slick over top of the liquid. This one has good clarity, but there is no apparent carbonation at all. I'd like a little better head and definately some carbonation to let me know this one is alive. It just looks sluggish in my glass with no activity at all. Taking a deep inhale, I find some deep earthy and toasty notes. I also get some weak tea aroma in there as well. There is not a lot more than that in this one. Even with a nice swirl in my glass, the aromas are not jumping out and grabbing me. Sipping this, I find mostly notes of toasted bread, with a slight earrthyness to it. Not bad, but fairly one-dimensional in my book. The aftertaste has some slight caramel tones to it, and is much more sweet that the initial sip. It almost has a slight smoked peat quality to it as well, but I think that is just a product of the melanoidans, not any smoked or peated malt. Mouthfeel is a nice solid moderate to thick, with next to zero carbonation. The ABV is not listed here or on the bottle, but this is part of their high gravity series, so I would expect that this one has a decent amount of alcohol in it. The flavors are not bad, but this one really just seems lifeless overall. It lacks carbonation, had almost no head, and just doesn't look alive in my glass. I would pass on this one again.

kmpitz2, Jul 27, 2006
Photo of Bierman9
4.05/5  rDev +12.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Enjoyed from a 22oz bomber bottle... Pours out an enticing deep-chestnut hue, with some twinkles of garnet near the edges. Was clear within, and the head was tan, creamy and fine, though thin - about 1/8". Lasts basically as surface cover, with a touch of lacing. This Goat was quite aromatic, with solid malty-toffee notes wafting out. Smells like when entering a confectionary... quite yummy! Body was a medium-plus, almost bordering on being chewy. It was quite smooth traversing the palate; a solid mouthfeel.

Flavor was rich and malty right from the get-go, with good sweetness without being cloying at all. Leaves a tasty coating in the mouth, with caramel all over. The hops are restrained, though some bitterness does sneak through and appear in the background. Hops in the Goat are more in a cameo role, just to keep things honest. Overall, this DB could possibly be bolder and maltier, though it is still a solid Bier.

I had some of this at the June ABF, plus another bottle a few weeks back. In both cases I was a bit less than impressed, but this one left a good impression.

Prosit!!

overall: 4.05
appearance: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | mouthfeel: 4.5 | drinkability: 4

923

Bierman9, Jul 24, 2006
Photo of sinstaineddemon
3.75/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

thanks to nflmvp for this bottle

A - dark brown, with dark ruby highlights; thin almost no head, very light almost no carbonation

S - dark molasses aromas mixed in with dark fruit aromas, like dates or prunes, smells very sweet, cant wait to get into this one

T - this doppelbock starts off with a roasted malty sweetness, nutty flavors as well, then nothing, it finished kinda bland, not bad balnd, just without much flavor, still good though

M&D - very smooth and refreshing, would be a lot better if the flavor lasted throughout the whole sip, a good and tasty brew, but if want a doppelbock, i'll stick with the Liberator

sinstaineddemon, Jul 24, 2006
Photo of AltBock
2.93/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

22 oz. bomber bottle that was silk screened blue color all around the bottle. On the front has a close up of a blue goat. The goat has a look on his face like he's about to head butt you or he's high as a kite. It's too hard to tell what he's going to do. On the side they have their signature Windmill symbol with the Govt. warning below that. On the back they talk about the history of the Blue Goat and below that is a mini paragraph of information about the beer. Don't bother to look for a date or batch number on the bottle because it doesn't exist. Other than that it's still a nice silk screened bottle with the funny high as a kite goat on the front.

Appearance: When poured into my Doppelbock Pilsener glass, the beer was a ruby red with a hint of chestnut brown in it. The head of foam was white and very thin. It dissipated away quite fast leaving behind some rings and no lace around the glass. Most Doppelbocks are more Chestnut Brown than Ruby Red color, but not this one, it's a little bit different.

Smell: To even get the slightest hint of smell, I had to swirl it around the glass for a while. Even then I thought the aroma was mild at best. What I got was some sweet roasted malt, hint of caramel, and a few hops in the background.

Taste: It was mild in flavor and even body. I thought this beer would make up for itself after the appearance and smell, but I guess not. All of this beer had to offer was some roasted malt, nuts, hint of molasses, and the slightest hint of hops in the background. I thought that since was one of New Holland's High Gravity Series that it would have more flavor than this, but guess again.

Mouthfeel: It was way too thin and mild especially for a Doppelbock and something they labeled as "High Gravity." There was also a muted aftertaste of hops in there too.

Drinkability: It was a good thing that I didn't pay full price for this beer. I went to a place that was selling it below the price of what other stores were selling it for. I thought it was pretty disappointing and the only thing that was "high" was the goat on the label and not the flavor or body of the beer inside. If you love mild Doppelbocks, then this would be your favorite!

AltBock, Jul 23, 2006
Photo of shivtim
3.93/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This brew is a beautiful deep red, like thick rusty cranberry, with a thin tan head. Nose is visions of dancing sugar plums, and the tiniest hint of ethanol. Taste is a nice mix of sweet smoky malts and earthy dark fruit, again with the very slightest alcohol finish. Mouthfeel is good, very smooth yet foamy at the same time. Drinkability may depend on the ABV, which isn't listed.

shivtim, Jul 21, 2006
Photo of aforbes10
4.13/5  rDev +15%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Tried some from a bottle brought to beer club. Very dark red, small brownish white head. looks good. Nose is a lot of dark fruits (plums). Also smells sweet like plum syrup. Delicious taste. sweet at first but then very fruity and malty. very smooth. I could go for a whole bottle of this. Good job, New Holland.

aforbes10, Jul 20, 2006
Photo of trep
4/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz Bottle.

An elegant ruby body with a bubbly off-white head. Hardly any visible carbonation.

Sweet, rich, caramel malts and some over-ripe fruit. Not terribly complex but pleasant nonetheless.

Very very drinkable. Bittersweet malt hits you initially and gives way to the silky smooth finish. Kind of a thin mouthfeel, but this one is still quite good. Faint hints of bittering hops but everything melds together so well. Sweet sugary raisin aftertaste.

Medium bodied, appropriate carbonation. Very easy drinking and I think this one is somewhere in the 8+% ABV.

trep, Jul 18, 2006
Photo of bigman147
3.58/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours a light orangish amber. A slight head that doesn't last. Minimal lacing. Good color for a dopplebock.

Aroma: Slight malty with a minimal estery hop aroma.

Taste: Taste is very light with a slight nutty malt character. Bitterness it sharp but not overpowering. Slight lingering malt.

Mouthfeel: Appropriate for style. Very crisp and light with good body. Not heavy at all

Drinkability: Very drinkable. FInished the 22oz bottle without any major issues. This beer is not very distinguished so its easy to forget it is a doppelbock. Its a part of the High Gravity series so I would assume it is somewhat high in alcohol.

bigman147, Jun 29, 2006
Photo of expatsteve
2.75/5  rDev -23.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: Ruby/copper, with orange highlights. Great color. Light lacing following a virtually non-existent head. Medium clarity and medium viscosity.

Aroma: Chocolate and cocoa nibs, but not particular aromatic. Good roasted malt notes.

Taste: This has an odd and distracting grassy taste, with little initial malt development and not much by way of finish; as it warms, there is more chocolate, but the grassy flavor has developed into a cigar-like finish. While it gets better, the pine taste and the lack of complicating malts leaves this feeling flat.

Mouthfeel: The body is perfect for a doppelbock - only a little thicker than a lager, with light carbonation. Despite the taste, smooth on the way down.

Drinkability: I think that starting this beer out at room temperature might help develop the taste more, as the pine resin finish had built up to the point where even my last mouthfuls were funky. Seems to want to be a Troegenator, but fails to capture the smoother aspects of the style. I'll hope it's a bad bottle, and return to it if some passes my way in the future.

expatsteve, Jun 29, 2006
New Holland Blue Goat from New Holland Brewing Company
82 out of 100 based on 89 ratings.