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New Holland Blue Goat - New Holland Brewing Company

New Holland Blue GoatNew Holland Blue Goat

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BA SCORE
82
good

88 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 88
Reviews: 78
rAvg: 3.6
pDev: 14.17%


Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  ABV ?

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: deejaydan on 05-01-2006)
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meathookjones

Virginia

3.15/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Body is reddish brown with a small covering of tan bubbles that disappear fairly quickly. No lacing left on the glass either. Lots of sweet caramel notes in the aroma with some fruit lurking in the back. Very little roast or anything else to balance out the big sweetness. The flavor was very similar with strong caramel sweet notes and ripe dark fruits mainly. Very light roastiness in there around the finish but overall a bit too sweet with not much going on it in. A bit on the thin side and easy drinking until it gets to be boring. A 12oz of this would have worked better for me.

Serving type: bottle

08-31-2006 19:15:35 | More by meathookjones
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TastyTaste

Minnesota

3.78/5  rDev +5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Appearance: Dark brown clear body, pretty much in line with what the style should be. Head is creamy and off white, fades fast.

Smell: Brown sugar, roasted malts, vanilla, brown sugar, pungent.

Taste: Malty and sweet, thick, with a slightly woody flavor. Vanilla and brown sugar are also there. Yes, you can definitely taste the alcohol, but this beer is weird, and I think in a...good way. It's hard to figure out what this beer is doing.

Drinkability: Is this a really good dopplebock, or a really bad one? I think it is good, the flavors are interesting, but a little syrupy

Serving type: bottle

08-31-2006 03:34:58 | More by TastyTaste
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ADR

Pennsylvania

3.7/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thick deep tawny brown color, small yellowish head of short staying-power. Just a few trace marks for lace. Malty sweet aroma, biscuits and just a touch of fruity brightness. Mouthfeel is medium, just slighty sticky, with very low carbonation. Smooth consistant flavor,slight maple and a dusty cocoa tone from start to finish. Some of the tang from the smell transitions to the taste, almost a pineapple impression. No appreciable hops, as expected. Pretty enjoyable,not complex but without a deep smooth maltiness that I like in my favorite Doppelbocks, but there is a slight nutiness that's interesting here, especially noticeable on warming.

Serving type: bottle

08-27-2006 00:09:13 | More by ADR
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DaveFL1976

Florida

4.2/5  rDev +16.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I'm suprised at the rather low rating this beer is receiving.
Then again, I've been less-than impressed with some of New Holland's bottles (especially of Dragonsmilk) so I can understand why there might be some variation in reviews.
Anyways, I had this on tap at the brewery. It poured a dark ruby red/mahogany color. Unfortunatley there wasn't much of a head on the beer. The smell is what you'd expect and hope for in a doppelbock. Sweet, caramelly, a bit of alcohol warmth and malty sweet roastyness. Very nice. The taste was impressive. Sweet and inviting. Oh so creamy. A bit of alcohol warmth to balance things out. Medium mouthfeel with a bit of stickyness. A nice brew!

Serving type: on-tap

08-24-2006 19:05:35 | More by DaveFL1976
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ultralarry2006

Illinois

3.5/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 22 oz. bomber. Left less a one finger head that quickly disappeared, and left no lacing. Body was garnet.

Smell - toasty malt, hearty dark breads, plums, cherries, and caramel.

Taste - same as the smell. Dark fruits like cherries and plums, caramel, and dark breads.

Mouthfeel - medium fullness, low carbonation.

Drinkability - this is decent, not great. It goes down well. It would be more sessionable if it was more intensely flavorful.

Serving type: bottle

07-30-2006 17:44:32 | More by ultralarry2006
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kmpitz2

Tennessee

3.38/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 ox bottle. Pours a slightly rubied deep amber color with a small head that falls quickly to a very patchy slick over top of the liquid. This one has good clarity, but there is no apparent carbonation at all. I'd like a little better head and definately some carbonation to let me know this one is alive. It just looks sluggish in my glass with no activity at all. Taking a deep inhale, I find some deep earthy and toasty notes. I also get some weak tea aroma in there as well. There is not a lot more than that in this one. Even with a nice swirl in my glass, the aromas are not jumping out and grabbing me. Sipping this, I find mostly notes of toasted bread, with a slight earrthyness to it. Not bad, but fairly one-dimensional in my book. The aftertaste has some slight caramel tones to it, and is much more sweet that the initial sip. It almost has a slight smoked peat quality to it as well, but I think that is just a product of the melanoidans, not any smoked or peated malt. Mouthfeel is a nice solid moderate to thick, with next to zero carbonation. The ABV is not listed here or on the bottle, but this is part of their high gravity series, so I would expect that this one has a decent amount of alcohol in it. The flavors are not bad, but this one really just seems lifeless overall. It lacks carbonation, had almost no head, and just doesn't look alive in my glass. I would pass on this one again.

Serving type: bottle

07-27-2006 03:33:27 | More by kmpitz2
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Bierman9

New Hampshire

4.05/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Enjoyed from a 22oz bomber bottle... Pours out an enticing deep-chestnut hue, with some twinkles of garnet near the edges. Was clear within, and the head was tan, creamy and fine, though thin - about 1/8". Lasts basically as surface cover, with a touch of lacing. This Goat was quite aromatic, with solid malty-toffee notes wafting out. Smells like when entering a confectionary... quite yummy! Body was a medium-plus, almost bordering on being chewy. It was quite smooth traversing the palate; a solid mouthfeel.

Flavor was rich and malty right from the get-go, with good sweetness without being cloying at all. Leaves a tasty coating in the mouth, with caramel all over. The hops are restrained, though some bitterness does sneak through and appear in the background. Hops in the Goat are more in a cameo role, just to keep things honest. Overall, this DB could possibly be bolder and maltier, though it is still a solid Bier.

I had some of this at the June ABF, plus another bottle a few weeks back. In both cases I was a bit less than impressed, but this one left a good impression.

Prosit!!

overall: 4.05
appearance: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | mouthfeel: 4.5 | drinkability: 4

923

Serving type: bottle

07-24-2006 12:58:27 | More by Bierman9
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sinstaineddemon

Connecticut

3.75/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

thanks to nflmvp for this bottle

A - dark brown, with dark ruby highlights; thin almost no head, very light almost no carbonation

S - dark molasses aromas mixed in with dark fruit aromas, like dates or prunes, smells very sweet, cant wait to get into this one

T - this doppelbock starts off with a roasted malty sweetness, nutty flavors as well, then nothing, it finished kinda bland, not bad balnd, just without much flavor, still good though

M&D - very smooth and refreshing, would be a lot better if the flavor lasted throughout the whole sip, a good and tasty brew, but if want a doppelbock, i'll stick with the Liberator

Serving type: bottle

07-24-2006 01:18:43 | More by sinstaineddemon
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AltBock

Ohio

2.93/5  rDev -18.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

22 oz. bomber bottle that was silk screened blue color all around the bottle. On the front has a close up of a blue goat. The goat has a look on his face like he's about to head butt you or he's high as a kite. It's too hard to tell what he's going to do. On the side they have their signature Windmill symbol with the Govt. warning below that. On the back they talk about the history of the Blue Goat and below that is a mini paragraph of information about the beer. Don't bother to look for a date or batch number on the bottle because it doesn't exist. Other than that it's still a nice silk screened bottle with the funny high as a kite goat on the front.

Appearance: When poured into my Doppelbock Pilsener glass, the beer was a ruby red with a hint of chestnut brown in it. The head of foam was white and very thin. It dissipated away quite fast leaving behind some rings and no lace around the glass. Most Doppelbocks are more Chestnut Brown than Ruby Red color, but not this one, it's a little bit different.

Smell: To even get the slightest hint of smell, I had to swirl it around the glass for a while. Even then I thought the aroma was mild at best. What I got was some sweet roasted malt, hint of caramel, and a few hops in the background.

Taste: It was mild in flavor and even body. I thought this beer would make up for itself after the appearance and smell, but I guess not. All of this beer had to offer was some roasted malt, nuts, hint of molasses, and the slightest hint of hops in the background. I thought that since was one of New Holland's High Gravity Series that it would have more flavor than this, but guess again.

Mouthfeel: It was way too thin and mild especially for a Doppelbock and something they labeled as "High Gravity." There was also a muted aftertaste of hops in there too.

Drinkability: It was a good thing that I didn't pay full price for this beer. I went to a place that was selling it below the price of what other stores were selling it for. I thought it was pretty disappointing and the only thing that was "high" was the goat on the label and not the flavor or body of the beer inside. If you love mild Doppelbocks, then this would be your favorite!

Serving type: bottle

07-23-2006 19:28:33 | More by AltBock
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shivtim

Georgia

3.93/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This brew is a beautiful deep red, like thick rusty cranberry, with a thin tan head. Nose is visions of dancing sugar plums, and the tiniest hint of ethanol. Taste is a nice mix of sweet smoky malts and earthy dark fruit, again with the very slightest alcohol finish. Mouthfeel is good, very smooth yet foamy at the same time. Drinkability may depend on the ABV, which isn't listed.

Serving type: bottle

07-21-2006 04:49:25 | More by shivtim
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aforbes10

Iowa

4.13/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Tried some from a bottle brought to beer club. Very dark red, small brownish white head. looks good. Nose is a lot of dark fruits (plums). Also smells sweet like plum syrup. Delicious taste. sweet at first but then very fruity and malty. very smooth. I could go for a whole bottle of this. Good job, New Holland.

Serving type: bottle

07-20-2006 13:48:13 | More by aforbes10
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trep

West Virginia

4/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz Bottle.

An elegant ruby body with a bubbly off-white head. Hardly any visible carbonation.

Sweet, rich, caramel malts and some over-ripe fruit. Not terribly complex but pleasant nonetheless.

Very very drinkable. Bittersweet malt hits you initially and gives way to the silky smooth finish. Kind of a thin mouthfeel, but this one is still quite good. Faint hints of bittering hops but everything melds together so well. Sweet sugary raisin aftertaste.

Medium bodied, appropriate carbonation. Very easy drinking and I think this one is somewhere in the 8+% ABV.

Serving type: bottle

07-18-2006 06:30:12 | More by trep
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bigman147

New Hampshire

3.58/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours a light orangish amber. A slight head that doesn't last. Minimal lacing. Good color for a dopplebock.

Aroma: Slight malty with a minimal estery hop aroma.

Taste: Taste is very light with a slight nutty malt character. Bitterness it sharp but not overpowering. Slight lingering malt.

Mouthfeel: Appropriate for style. Very crisp and light with good body. Not heavy at all

Drinkability: Very drinkable. FInished the 22oz bottle without any major issues. This beer is not very distinguished so its easy to forget it is a doppelbock. Its a part of the High Gravity series so I would assume it is somewhat high in alcohol.

Serving type: bottle

06-29-2006 20:41:11 | More by bigman147
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expatsteve

Wisconsin

2.75/5  rDev -23.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: Ruby/copper, with orange highlights. Great color. Light lacing following a virtually non-existent head. Medium clarity and medium viscosity.

Aroma: Chocolate and cocoa nibs, but not particular aromatic. Good roasted malt notes.

Taste: This has an odd and distracting grassy taste, with little initial malt development and not much by way of finish; as it warms, there is more chocolate, but the grassy flavor has developed into a cigar-like finish. While it gets better, the pine taste and the lack of complicating malts leaves this feeling flat.

Mouthfeel: The body is perfect for a doppelbock - only a little thicker than a lager, with light carbonation. Despite the taste, smooth on the way down.

Drinkability: I think that starting this beer out at room temperature might help develop the taste more, as the pine resin finish had built up to the point where even my last mouthfuls were funky. Seems to want to be a Troegenator, but fails to capture the smoother aspects of the style. I'll hope it's a bad bottle, and return to it if some passes my way in the future.

Serving type: bottle

06-29-2006 00:50:15 | More by expatsteve
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Golden2wenty1

Wisconsin

3.4/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Bomber shared with expatsteve while viewing a battle of attrition between Switzerland and Ukraine.

Pours an attractive dark copper-orange with a khaki head that I struggled to pour and fades quickly. Nose has notes of choco-grain roasted malt and a borderline funky grassy finish. Taste starts off, for the briefest moment, with that kind of yummy choco-malt but crashes down to earth with a flat, grass-malt, ephemeral, Bud-Select-like hollow finish. Mouthfeel is thin and without the body a dopplebock should exert. A rather disappointing effort here from New Holland. Not particularly to style and not particularly great on its own. Kind of drinkable, but for $7 a bomber we're reaching Three Floyds "for Christ's sake" overpriced territory.

Serving type: bottle

06-26-2006 20:42:06 | More by Golden2wenty1
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scruffwhor

Illinois

3.03/5  rDev -15.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Appearance- Pours a wafer thin head with under-average retention and quickly goes to nothingness after a couple sips. The color is a deep russet amber with highlights of merlot in the middle of the brew. There was some alright bubbling in this deep red brew. But this was a sunpar appearance for a Dopplebock.

Smell- Very bland compared to all other dopplebocks I've had up to this one. There were a few fruity/malty hints. But those were very muted and hard to discern.

Taste- Starts out with some muted plums then moves to a blended dark fruit with carbonation and light hopping. The finish is a very muted roasted malt.

Mouthfeel- A little watery and slightly adjunct-like with the first sips of this beer. But still that overall sweet dopplebock feel was retained throughout 50% of the brew. The carbonation earned some brownie points.

Serving type: bottle

06-24-2006 02:41:08 | More by scruffwhor
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carln26

Missouri

3.45/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured a dark amber to mahogany with a thin tan head the fizzled quickly into the glass. No discernable lace left. The aroma is dominated by malt as expected. Lots of dark caramel, figs, dates. No hop presence I can discern. The flavor has all of the same from the malt. Dates, figs, caramel. It’s not overly sweet which is nice, but boy does the alcohol come on strong on the finish. This stuff almost burns. The mouth feel is a touch thin. Drinkability is OK. Sorry folks, I want a dopple with a bit more body, and a lot less burn

Serving type: bottle

06-23-2006 20:56:41 | More by carln26
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BabaJohn

California

3.43/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This one grew on me as I drank. The Goat poured dark and translucent, with a thin, fading head. It smelled faintly sweet with perhaps a hint of berries. Up front the taste was less sweet than the nose suggested (almost sharp and a bit sour), with that sweetness coming midway followed by an earthy aftertaste. The feel was fairly thin with some noticeable carbonation that vanished as the beer aired out. All in all it went down easy and I learned to appreciate it’s subtly shifting tastes the more I consumed. Not a beer to ignore, but it wouldn't be my first choice given some options.

Serving type: bottle

06-22-2006 04:26:35 | More by BabaJohn
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karst

Missouri

3.5/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

If your not a big fan of Chrystal malts in your beer let the "Blue Goat" pass on by.
I am afraid that is my situation - we only put 2 oz of C-60 in five gall batch of pale ale.

I enjoyed talking to one of the owners about how the Doppelbock was named after their old blue delivery truck that has served New Holland B.C. long and well. I like this style and was shopping for a couple of growlers to take back to Kalamazoo. A clear rich mahogany with a brief light tan head and minor lace. Initial aroma of toasted malt and sweet caramel. Lightly hopped (tettanger?) the sweet malty finish outs lasts the hops and becomes cloying by the end of the glass. Some diacetyl offers a minor butterscotch note. This may have been near the end of a cask.

I found it a little dissappointing. Looking for more complexity and less caramel flavor.

Serving type: on-tap

06-21-2006 18:51:54 | More by karst
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silenius

Illinois

3.45/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Looks a lot like a cola when poured into a glass. Thin tan head, no lacing, but very little carbonation (unlike a cola). The color is a red-hued brown when held up to the light.

Smell is hardly noticeable - a very light maple scent.

Taste is a clean malty flavor with a nice maple and vanilla aftertaste. Slightly sweet.

Mouthfeel is slightly drying and slick and thin.

Serving type: bottle

06-19-2006 16:49:01 | More by silenius
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mentor

Colorado

4.05/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle provided by deejaydan as part of BIF33. One of my favorite styles...thanks for the opportunity! Pours a thin layer of dark tan head over a crystal clear gorgeous dark amber liquid. Smells caramel sweet with some grassy tettnanger hop quality. Fresh and earthy.

Tastes chocolate, nutty, and light-colored caramel. A touch of sour and a touch of vanilla. Definitely has tettnanger character, but not too strong. Perhaps a hybrid that has one parent as tettnanger. While the dark character of the tettnanger is a nice counter to the light caramel, it also contributes a perceived thickness to the nearly syrupy body...almost putting the mouthfeel over the edge. Quite sweet and thick hanging on the tongue aftertaste. Decent. Simple. Balanced.

Serving type: bottle

06-19-2006 09:09:06 | More by mentor
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rhoadsrage

Illinois

3.68/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

(Served in a large snifter)

A- This beer has a chestnut brown body with a bubbly thick head of light tan foam. There is a strong carbonation of tiny bubbles racing through the clear body.

S- The smell of caramel malt is sweet with a slight alcohol smell in the finish.

T- The taste of pot caramel with some dark roasted malt has a strong sweetness with a dark toffee note in the background. There is a faint tang to the malt flavor and a soft warmth from hops in the finish.

M- The beer has a medium-full mouthfeel with a slight creamy texture and a soft fizz at the finish. There is a very slight alcohol warmth that helps give depth to the shy hop bitterness.

D- This beer is ok but not very exciting. It is a bit too sweet and the malt flavors are a bit odd. The hops were very subtle but still had a nice resents.

Serving type: bottle

06-15-2006 16:27:42 | More by rhoadsrage
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Dogbrick

Ohio

3.53/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours dark brown with a maroon tint around the edges. Thick tan head and nice lacing. Aroma of earthy malt and caramel. Medium-bodied with a toasted grain and malt flavor. Some nuts and dark fruit as well. The taste is pretty good but doesn’t have a lot of legs. Sweet, malty finish with a touch of hops, and again it falls off pretty quickly. Not really a bad Doppelbock but I was a little let down.

Serving type: bottle

06-01-2006 16:02:50 | More by Dogbrick
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frazbri

Ohio

3.83/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Blue Goat Doppelbock from New Holland poured a clear copper body with a short, off-white head sustained by a constant teem of carbonation. Honey and orange marmalade aromas were present. Sweet flavors, slightly fruity and a touch of hazelnut with a clean bitterness. Medium body and highly carbonated.

Blue Goat is a well balanced, clean bock. It isn't shocking or overpowering, it's just a nice beer.

Serving type: bottle

05-31-2006 03:02:59 | More by frazbri
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ypsifly

Michigan

3.45/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Painted bomber with no dates but it does sport a goat face that looks frickn' evil. Purchased at Merchant's in Dearborn and poured into a pilsner.

Dark crimson to brown under a finger of light tan that falls rather quickly to a thin layer of foam and then a faint ring. No lace but a few specks here and there.

Sweet caramel makes up most of the nose. Slight nuttiness and a tiny bit of butterscotch. Not very complex and rather weak overall.

Body is moderate but a little flat. More carbonation would make this so much better.

Lots of malt upfront. Initially sweet and nutty but with a growing bitterness that gets spicy and then bitter towards the end. Lingering hop dryness. Nice change in flavors. So much more balance than the nose.

Drinkable but nothing to get excited about. Not worth the $6.99.

Serving type: bottle

05-13-2006 06:01:58 | More by ypsifly
New Holland Blue Goat from New Holland Brewing Company
82 out of 100 based on 88 ratings.