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New Holland Existential: Hopwine - New Holland Brewing Company

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85
very good

142 Ratings
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Ratings: 142
Reviews: 137
rAvg: 3.75
pDev: 14.13%
Wants: 9
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial IPA |  10.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: kirok1999 on 05-16-2007)
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Photo of Stinkypuss
3.63/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

a. Hazy golden yellow with some nice head and lacing.

s. Piney hops dominate the nose theres some boozey notes too.

t,m,d. Caramel and a huge wave of hops riding along. An alcohal bite finishes leaving the palate quite dry. Medium bodied. Pretty well crafted, but the alcohalic bite is a bit extreme. A must for hop heads. Kind of like an intensely hopped barley wine.

Stinkypuss, Jun 15, 2008
Photo of Duster72
3.65/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a amber brown color with a very thin off white head. Aroma is sugary malts with a definite hint of rubber (very strange, I know). Taste is dark fruits, sugar, and very bitter hops. Very bitter finish but certainly drinkable. Interesting DIPA, not the best, but interesting.

Duster72, May 28, 2007
Photo of sweemzander
3.65/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

22oz. bottle, split, and poured into an imperial pint glass. No visible bottled date.

(A)- Pours a clear orange amber with a respectable white foamy head, but dissipated rather quickly down to a layer of bubbles. Minimal lacing present.

(S)- Massive pineapple citrus with a laid-back hop and malt aroma. Just huge pineapple juice character with a touch of sugary honey.

(T)- Ample hop and pine presence with obvious pineapple citrus. Sugary sweet honey-lemon fruit and light caramel-ish malt.

(M)- Good carbonation level with ample sugary sweetness with great pineapple. But once again, the sugary sweetness overpowers all the great nuances this beer has to offer.

(D)- Serious sugary sweetness with pineapple and honey. . . . New Holland could be a really great brewery with their High Gravity series, but most, if not all of them are way too sugary sweet; it really ruins what could be superb styles of unique and interesting beers, instead just super sweet/super high abvs.

sweemzander, Sep 12, 2009
Photo of nlmartin
3.65/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The beer was served in an Imperial Nonic.

Appearance: The beer poured a clear amber coloration. The head retention was very short. The head was a thin creamy biege coloration. Quickly falling rings of lacing remain on my glass.

Smell: The beer has caramel boozey alcohol notes on intial smell. This gives way to a melange of fruityness. The beers fruityness encompasses a combination of apples, berries, grapefruit, lemon, mango and pine. Again the alcohol is noticeable but not an undue distraction.

Taste: Sweet caramel and toffee kick the beers flavor off. The fruityness from the smell is nowhere near as identifiable in the flavor. Grapefruit and apple make an appearance on my palate. A bit of pine and grassyness. The alcohol demands to have its authority respected in the flavor. (I think New Hollands web site claims 11. % for this beer.

Mouthfeel/ Drinkability: The beer is full bodied. The alcohol is well incorporated in the beer. No alcohol heat is noted in the mouth. The hops have plenty of oilyness and last a long time. The beer drinks better than ok but probably would have been more enjoyable shared.

nlmartin, May 14, 2007
Photo of BEERchitect
3.65/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I don't know about a hopwine. When I think of such terminology, I imagine the Avery 10 and 11's of the world; and especially Dogfish 120 Minute. This beer doesn't stand up to those larger-than-life beers. The beer begins with a promising pour: solidly copper and a firm, withstanding foamstand. Aromas of fresh fruit (apples, oranges, grapefruit, mangos, and appricots) swirl around hearty barley malts and obvious alcoholic presence. The flavors are a surprising balance of malts and hops. The citrus fruits stand up to the proclaimed hop additions and never waver. This keeps the beer from realizing the 'hopwine' promise. Despite the balance, this is a good heavy blend, but hendered by the higher, defiant alcohols -- fusals. All said and done, the beer is worth drinking and enjoying, but can't compete with so many other high-gavity IPA's.

BEERchitect, Jun 15, 2007
Photo of mntlover
3.68/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a rich amber color with small off white head that falls quickly to clumped foam, leaves some decent lace.

Aroma is nice rich earthy caramel dripping with hints of molasses, nice pine resin notes hidden underneath. Nice rich smelling not as hoppy as most I2PA's but very relaxing soothing smelling.

Taste is big on caramel malts sweet slightly cloying with nice alcohol notes. Kind of Old Ale or Strong Ale tasting more then I2PA. Hops can hardly keep up with big malt base that becomes more alcoholic as it warms, hardly a hop monster but not bad either, just need to relabel bottle.

Mouthfeel is not as big as all the malt would suggest but a medium with mellow carbonation.

Drinkability is good just don't expect an I2PA and all will be good. Not a bad beer just not what the bottle states it is.

mntlover, Jun 17, 2008
Photo of webmanspidey
3.68/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Has all the typical characteristics of Double IPAs: very bitter, hoppy, and alcoholic. Maybe a little overboard in some of the categories, as I had a difficult time slowly finishing the bomber I bought at the brewery. Definitely worth trying if you're a big Double IPA / Barleywine fan.

webmanspidey, Aug 24, 2008
Photo of maximum12
3.68/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

After an evening that included a Surly Furious & Wild Dog Gonzo, I needed something that would cut through the palate clutter like a laser. Hoo boy. This certainly fit the bill. And what's a hopwine?

For certain, this is a unique beer, which gets it points from the stink-go. The nose is unremarkable, alcohol with a bit of hops, but the taste is where this is at. I tend to favor my IIPAs as hops bombs - balance? it's a IIPA, screw balance! - but this one goes the opposite direction. The hops are present & saying the pledge, but the malts aren't balancing, they're screaming for attention & being hauled off to detention. If you're going to fuck up an IIPA by using malt, go deep! I like it.

Drinkability is high if you want to wake up sprawled out naked on your deck. Otherwise, imbibe with caution.

Good brew. New Holland is doing some good things, some I appreciate, some not so much, but tip-o-the-cap for the effort.

maximum12, Jan 18, 2009
Photo of mjd83goblue
3.68/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bomber for $6.49. Tried this at the MI Winter Beer Fest, was a nice surprise to see it on the shelfs. I believe it was advertised as a "Hop Wine" at the fest.

A: Pours a copper/amber that is pretty clear, with a small head.

S: Smells 'sticky', as in I expect a big boozy beer. Quite fruity/floral. Not smelling the hops like I expected.

T: Sweet and fruity, with tastes from the nectarine/apricot families. Has plenty of bitterness, but somewhat lacking on hop flavor. Pretty hot right now. Brutally bitter finish, which isn't necessarily bad, but I expected a little more.

M: Thick and sticky. Nice body.

D: A nice sipper. A pretty big beer, both ABV and palatte wrecking, for a bomber. 12 oz might have been enough.

Usually I don't like aged DIPA's, because I love the fresh hop taste and smell. However, I think its is better catergorized as a barleywine, and I think it could use some time. I remember liking it better at the Fest, but I think everything tasted great by that point...

mjd83goblue, May 18, 2007
Photo of FightingEntropy
3.68/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Presentation: bottle from Andy's liquor in Rochester and poured into a pint glass cold--advise to let warm up a bit more, see below.

A: amber ale with a small very white head the disappeared quickly.

S: hops hit my nose while pouring into the pint glass. Clear and distinct from two foot away from my nose. Very strong spice and some fruity citrus as well. Hot from the alcohol. Somewhat complex spiceness from 10 hop additions.

T: A bit grassy, bitter front to back, peppery, malty sweet and oily. I was distracted reading for a bit, and as it warmed up the alcohol filled the pint glass and my nose in spite of the wide open rim. The bitterness mellowed and blended a bit and it became a better beer than my initial reaction.

M: full bodied, oily, and a drying aftertaste that lingers.

D: a bit overwhelming, but go slow, let it warm, and it grows on you.

Overall: not the best DIPA I've had, but good and worth a try if you're a NH fan like myself.

FightingEntropy, Sep 16, 2007
Photo of alexgash
3.68/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Imbibed at Ashley's. Served colder than it should, so I let it warm up a bit.

Medium copper with an amber glaze. Small, sticky, off-white head. Nose is full of fruit, butterscotch, alcohol, and citrusy hops. Smells intimidating! Bracing, powerful palate full of ripe fruits, sugar, butterscotch syrup up front. Woah! Oh, and there's the citrusy hops too! Alcohol is noticeable throughout and is perhaps a bit too hot. Spicy, sweet malt dominates this "hopwine", and the hops play second fiddle. Interesting. If you like sugary malt bomb barleywines give this one a try. Full-bodied, with a syrupy, mouth-lacquering feel. It'll warm you right up too!

alexgash, Jan 04, 2007
Photo of Twerknasty
3.7/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours an orange drank color, haha its so true though! Very little lacing, very little head. To start this off, the nose is very sound. The hops are incredibly pronounced on the nose, showing tropical fruit canned base and have a hint of showing a bitterness at the first taste. The palate consists of a very simplistic barley wine, with malts dominating with hops on the background showing only a slight bitterness. The main flaw that i notice is the sheer alcohol presence which is unbalanced. Not a terrible beer, but I wouldn't bring this beer home for a double dip

Twerknasty, Apr 29, 2008
Photo of movingtrain
3.75/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a somewhat cloudy/murky brownish-red color. Not a lot of head retention here, though this would be due to the growler, also.

In the aroma are tart cherries, dark honey, ripe citrus, raspberry, wet wood, and hard candy. It is rich, almost syrupy in the aroma. On the way toward the palate, some big malt characteristics come forward, filled with oats and caramel.

The flavor here is a strong balance between the malty and the hoppy. The initial taste is quite sweet, providing caramel, ginger, brown sugar, molasses, and honey notes. As the beer progresses, it becomes more bitter, though not overly so. The hops are present, but not dominant, allowing a slight hop character to play beneath a fine chorus of toasty malt flavors.

Overall, this beer is rich, dense, and packs quite a punch. It has some interesting characteristics, and gives a refreshing and unique take on the "barleywine" style, calling it "hopwine." Both the Double IPA big hop character, and the Barleywine malty sweet characteristics are here, and the final product is, well, somewhat similar to the name.

movingtrain, Aug 21, 2011
Photo of atsprings
3.75/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22oz bomber poured into a Duvel Snifter. Pours a nice crisp amber with a thin diminishing head. Aroma is Earthy pine hops with sweet caramel right behind, quite fragrant. The taste is dominated by bitter pine with some burnt caramel and dried fruits in the background. The hop bitterness is quite overbearing and the alcohol is cloyingly sweet, I'm hoping some aging would do this beer well. The beer is one of the driest I've ever had, slight cloying alcohol hits hard but than somewhat dissipates, just not completely. This is certainly an interesting beer, but this one in particular is not what I look for in this style.

atsprings, Jun 14, 2008
Photo of KAF
3.75/5  rDev 0%

KAF, Aug 03, 2014
Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.75/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Pours a clear, bright amber body with a lush, bubbly off-white head.

Smell: Light, delicate aroma of caramel, green tea, and tangerines.

Taste: Sweet and somewhat grainy with the taste of caramel flanked by hop flavors of juicy tangerines and a sprinkling of pine needles. Finishes bittersweet and also resinous and soapy.

Mouthfeel: Medium-full body. Mild carbonation.

Drinkability: Not really as hoppy as the front of the bottle led me to believe.

ChainGangGuy, Jul 01, 2007
Photo of rajendra82
3.75/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I picked this bomber up at Green's in Greenville, South Carolina. The color of the beer was copper, the body clear, and the head quite small. For a beer with a silk screened hop cone on the label, the smell was quite subdued. I could pick up some distant earthy and citric hops, but its was nothing to rave about. The taste was much hoppier, as the spicy and bitter flavors were apparent immediately. The malt was skeletal in nature and provided a stable but unspectacular foundation. The alcohol was completely hidden, and this one drank like many IPAs rather than the barleywine strength it really was. In the mouth, this felt, oily, slippery, and mercurial. This was a very unique creation indeed, but I found it somewhat empty.

rajendra82, Aug 30, 2008
Photo of rhoadsrage
3.78/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

(Served in a tulip glass)

A- This beer has a light toasted-brown body that is crystal clear with a strong carbonation of tiny bubbles. There is a thick spongy film that fades into a film pretty quickly.

S- This beer has a sweet caramel malt and sugary smell with a green hop note and a light citrus perfume note to it.

T- The sugary sweet caramel malt flavor has a note of sweet honey with a soft green hops flavor. There is an alcohol finish that is covered by the hop bitterness that hangs on after each sip.

M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with a nice alcohol heat that is pretty smooth.

D- The biggest hops are on the label. In the bottle the hops are pretty soft compared to the sweet simple malt flavors. The bitterness of the hops is stronger than the flavor but both are lighter than I expect for an IPA.

rhoadsrage, Jun 30, 2007
Photo of peabody
3.78/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance is amber to brown and clear with lots of suds in the off-white vein.Slight lacing occuring on the tulip glass.
Smell is sugary malt with very little hops. A dried grape/raisin aroma with some cherry dark aroma in there also.
Taste is very dark and mild. Not bitter at all. Sugar and malt and plum. Alcohol is not present here. Great cold.
Mouthfeel is very clean and not bitter(which would have been a good thing for an IPA).
New Holland has a lot of nice beers. This one misses the mark by a little bit. Still a good brew, just not a great beer.

peabody, May 19, 2007
Photo of Tyrawlings
3.78/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22 oz. Bottle poured into a pint glass.

A: Hazy, deep dark orange in color woth tea colored hues. Micro bubble white head pours two fingers thick. Decent retention. Nice sticky lacing.

S: Sweet fruit. Apple. Peach. Apricot. Toffee. Grain and alcohol.

T: The sweetness of tropical fruits and apples dominate the front end of this brew. Soft caramel malts and the taste of toffee come in to play the balancing game but are immediately beaten back by a citrus hop bitterness that zaps the tongue. Big grain taste is followed by a hot alcohol burn. Finishes sweet and dry.

M: Syrupy and slightly slick. Minimal carbonation. Warming and dry.

D: I think this barleywine has the potential to be a very nice example of the style. It seems a bit hot and needs time to settle down. I am very interested to try this one again after some six months or so of aging! Recommended.

Tyrawlings, May 06, 2007
Photo of mattcrill
3.78/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Aroma: Orange juice and citrusy notes lend way to some piney resin aromatics. Sliced candied oranges with some gentle alcohol warming the nose.

Appearance: Very murky and hazy amber pour with a very thin sudsy white head.

Flavor: Good firm carmel base with more pithy citrusy hops to balance. Floral and light grassy hoppiness overlay a nice warming alcohol base. Low fruity esters appear as the beer warms up.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with low carbonation. Warms the palate on the way down.

Overall impression: A big, powerful American Barleywine. Too sweet and too much malt character for a double IPA. I would have liked to have seen more carbonation. These big beers from New Holland are notoriously undercarbonated. Disappointing b/c I think this could be a world class beer with a touch more carbonation to open up the aromatics and flavor profile. Probably worth trying once but not much more than that.

mattcrill, Oct 18, 2008
Photo of drxandy
3.83/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

poured into a tulip glass from the bomber, heavy beer! wow, pour left little to no head, very thick from the alcohol.

color is of a golden amber, very deep - looks like trouble

smell is of hot alcohol, and extreme hopping - malt is sweet, almost malt liquor in quality, bready yeast creeping in the end.

taste proves this to be a hop bomb, extreme bitterness with sweetly dry finish. The malt is very much in the background with all the overpowering hops, makes me feel like if i sat on the bottle for a year it would balance out and it might come off smoother and more delicious.

mouthfeel is oily and thick, definately DIPA territory

overall drinkablity is where this fails, i really couldn't see myself drinking often if again soon, i would really like to see how age would do on it as stated before and am tempted to get another bomber to hold onto.

drxandy, May 04, 2008
Photo of calise1122
3.88/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Second of the day, stared with BORIS the Crusher and sipped slow, really enjoying it. Took a break and the hop head in me wants to get some love. So like any good coach, I revisited my game plan.

I recently got a New Holland Existential Ale from New Holland Brew company in a trade (thanks again wisrarebeer) and decided to pull the trigger. The pour coincides with the Seahawks slowly driving on my Pats... hopefully this New Holland Mojo will change things:

This 22 oz bomber comes via their High Gravity Series. The bottle explains that this "Is what it is." Amen, only if it all were that simple.

Holy soap bath, rubber ducky and all...bubbles explode on top of a golden straw color liquid that turns darker as it takes a tour of the glass. Once filled, the soap suds settle down on top of an inch thick light tan head... but they keep on popping. (shoot, 7-0 Seahawks.. that drive was to long and too easy) Nice lacing... beehive lacing that clings strong and tight. And the lacing lasts, no rings here... this lace sticks like peanut butter, leaving a coat down the glass.

Lots of pine on the nose, mixed in with caramel... nice smelling beer. Not over powering by any means, and the malt driven characters are get stronger as you smell. Kind of like back seat drivers, they don't control this leg of the drive, but they sure as hell want you to think they do. Shit, I just dunked my nose in the friggin beer... god damnit, the Pats can't stop the run and I can't smell a beer....

Hmmm? Where did the piney hop smell go and hide... very sweet, actually very sweet with strong honey and caramel. It's as if the malt and honey brokered a deal where the hops would take the smell and the malts would handle the flavor... but then both of them tried to finagle their way into the other half of the deal, showing up late to the party with a tuxedo on... demanding to be noticed. The aroma was hop on the front with a nice caramel maltiness lingering around and the complete opposite happened for me on the taste... honey, caramel, vanilla on the front with some hop on the finish. The problem is, the Malt showed up in an all white tux with blue suede shoes... out performing the hops. Me thinks this might be better off called Winehop.

It is full bodied and creamy. Plain and simple? It feels good in my mouth. (wow, I was going to erase that and rewrite, but I deserve to be responsible for my initial thoughts... and the pats are down 14-3, this Mojo is NOT doing what I had hoped)

It's a big beer, that is for sure. I recently had Southern Tier Back Burner, which I didn't care for to much... but this takes the sweetness that I did enjoy out of that beer and put it on a platform that suits my style better. I just wish the hops had the fancy tux at this dance. The bottle really summed it up nicely, this beer is what it is.

calise1122, Dec 07, 2008
Photo of BeerAndBourbon
3.88/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A. Pours a hazy orange with a small white head.

S. A bit of hops, but mostly caramel malt. It smells like the backbone of a good DIPA without the upfront hops.

T. The earthy/grassy hop flavor is still present, but not pervasive; I can only imagine what this was like fresh. Flavor is mostly caramel with some bread and yeast contributions.

M. Smooth medium body.

D. Good drinkability. This drinks very well for a 10.5%. I'm not sure what this was like fresh, but it's quite interesting now.

BeerAndBourbon, Nov 07, 2010
Photo of Lepley
3.88/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours thick tan-orange with a little tan head.
S: Sweet and strong. I was able to smell the hops it without holding the glass up.
T: Sweet fruits, hoppiness. Alcohol burns in its aftertaste.
M: Thick with good carbonation.
D: This is a solid imperial IPA. I recommend trying it.

Lepley, Aug 14, 2008
New Holland Existential: Hopwine from New Holland Brewing Company
85 out of 100 based on 142 ratings.