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New Holland Existential: Hopwine - New Holland Brewing Company

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85
very good

142 Ratings
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Ratings: 142
Reviews: 137
rAvg: 3.75
pDev: 14.13%
Wants: 9
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial IPA |  10.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: kirok1999 on 05-16-2007)
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Photo of steelcutoats
4.43/5  rDev +18.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I got this MONSTER ALE down at the Headkeepers on the way home from dropping off a resume. It's a beast of an IPA...very hoppy, bitter and satisfying. I poured 3/4 of the 22 oz. botlle into a crystal wine glass. The head was almost gone as soon as I returned from returning the bottle to the fridge. The color was a light orange with a twang of gold. The aroma was full of hops and citrus. The taste was lovely. Good and bitter, with a lingering after taste. This is definately a beer to try out!

Photo of Oxymoron
2.58/5  rDev -31.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

How do I know if the beer is really here or not? Pours a burnt orange color. Mostly cloudy with a fizzy white head. Does dissipate quickly but some rings around the glass. Limited lacing.

The nose is on par with an East coast DIPA. The hops come out nicely with some citrus and piney. There are some off notes, cat urine specifically, that I usually associate with simcoe hops. The malt is a bit muddle overall with some minor caramel and toffee notes. The yeast has some alcohol and noticeable musty notes.

The taste is similar but the malt comes out more as the hops back off. To start there is a sweet malt flavor that has some off toffee and nutty notes. There is a light honey flavor in the background. There is something I just can't pick out as well, but has a almost wheat characteristic. The hops are not as offensive as the nose but more of a piney flavor mixed with a earthy citrus finish. Good bitterness with some minor astringency. The yeast notes are off as well, with noticeable alcohol and esters, mostly floral.

The body is moderate to full. Some astringency but not over the top. Carbonation is low. Overall this is a disappointment for a DIPA. Muddle notes in the malt and off hop aromas and tastes. Noticeable off yeast characteristics. Sorry, just not very impressive.

Photo of mattcrill
3.78/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Aroma: Orange juice and citrusy notes lend way to some piney resin aromatics. Sliced candied oranges with some gentle alcohol warming the nose.

Appearance: Very murky and hazy amber pour with a very thin sudsy white head.

Flavor: Good firm carmel base with more pithy citrusy hops to balance. Floral and light grassy hoppiness overlay a nice warming alcohol base. Low fruity esters appear as the beer warms up.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with low carbonation. Warms the palate on the way down.

Overall impression: A big, powerful American Barleywine. Too sweet and too much malt character for a double IPA. I would have liked to have seen more carbonation. These big beers from New Holland are notoriously undercarbonated. Disappointing b/c I think this could be a world class beer with a touch more carbonation to open up the aromatics and flavor profile. Probably worth trying once but not much more than that.

Photo of roadhouse
3.53/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 22 oz. bomber into a snifter. I'm not sure this should be categorized as a DIPA, the New Holland rep told me it was a cross between a DIPA and a Barleywine, so maybe it should be an American Strong Ale?

Appears a hazy dark orange color with a thin, less than one centimeter, soapy looking off-white head.

Aroma is sweet and malty with a nice hop bite that reminds me of citrus and a bit of pininess.

Taste is kind of strange actually. It starts out with a malty sweetness then hops take over and make it quite bitter. There is a certain fruitiness to it, but I distinguish any particulars. Bitter, fruity finish lingers on.

Mouthfeel is definitely lacking in the carbonation department. It seems like it's going to be thick but ends up being way too thin.

I was quite disappointed with this one. That usually doesn't happen with New Holland, but oh well.

Photo of BeerBelcher
2.58/5  rDev -31.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

I was not a fan of this one. It was the last beer of the night and I was pretty hopped out by this one. Still, the sweet malty cereal-ness/graininess was an unpleasant surprise. Thought this beer was very unhopped for something called Hopewine...much more wheat wine than DIPA.

This beer poured a cloudy dull amber with a really minimal scummy head. Aroma was pure alcohol esters, which reminded me of rubbing alcohol. Flavor was sweet malty cerealness. Mouthfeel was dry and astringent...almost to the point of burning.

I would be reluctant to recommend this beer.

Photo of weeare138
4/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appears a semi-transparent orange with a small white head. Spotty lacing is left around the glass.
Smell is of pine, citrus, caramel, and toffee.
Taste is of the mentioned aromas with standout roasted nuts, caramel, citrus, and pine.
Mouthfeel is sweet up front with bitter pine needles, and sap sticking to the palate.

Photo of saintwarrick
3.25/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

New Holland's year round brews impress me a lot more than their one shots for some reason, and this one follows that trend. This brew pours a nice orangey amber, but almost no head appears in a late-forming head. Smell is slightly hoppy, some rubbing alcohol with some citrus and honey thrown in. Not quite as overwhelming with the pine or citrus like most DIPAs. Taste is slightly sweet with a honey-like flavor, quickly followed with some burnt orange and pine syrupy aftertaste that lends a little bitterness.

Malts are there, but there's not much that makes this brew balanced. You're better off with their superior Mad Hatter than this brew, which needs more than a few tweaks to the formula.

Photo of tavernjef
4.65/5  rDev +24%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Bright burnt orangey color with a small capping of tinted ivory bubbles that sticks around very well. Lacing is in thin stretched out strings and some spotting. Lots of thick bubbles stay consistantly frothed at the rim top of the beer.

Aroma is heavily oiled in a malt laden tropical twisted scent of sticky mango, sweet peach, pineapple, orange oil, and there's some piney dryness trying hard to top it off but barely getting by its big beefy sweet fruity malt.

Big on tropical taste with way more pine sinking in then what the aroma hints to. Thick and orange oil heavy with hints to white raisins, peach, grapefruit, pineapple, and mango sweetness. Toasted slightly, but mostly heavy with tropical sweet fruityness. Lots of orange oil pithyness and mango juices. A piney swift bite of bitterness swings in just past midway and carries through to the finish with a huge twist of hoppy greased resin thats oily, thick, and juicy. Mixing into a thickly despersed mountian of broad hop tones and flavors that last well and don't quit til late into a lingering toasty finish and hoppy warmth.

Feel is pretty damn big and beefy. Rich, heavy on oily sensations and a creamy malt laden thickness that really coats the palate well. Leaving just enough room for the hoppy extras to seep in with tropical sweetness, pine, and other mentionables noted above.

Only a slight heat is experienced in through the nose at some of the bigger sips and then on the back of the throat and palate. So between that and its hugely thick and creamy malt tropic center, it makes for a hoppy treat that can't be consumed as easily as one would like I think. But damn if it ain't one tasty solid treat!

Photo of Slynger
3.05/5  rDev -18.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Fairly bright, very clear, orange color with a golden fade to it, and a slim ivory lid of big bubbled foam.

The nose is very nice, very sweet caramely malts with pineapples, apricots, oranges, and pine.

Taste is not as good. It is syrupy sugary, with toasted, bready malts and toffee overpowering the above fruits and pine, finishing bitter. Full bodied and syrupy slick with light, foamy carbonation.

Not one of the best that I've had.

Photo of rajendra82
3.75/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I picked this bomber up at Green's in Greenville, South Carolina. The color of the beer was copper, the body clear, and the head quite small. For a beer with a silk screened hop cone on the label, the smell was quite subdued. I could pick up some distant earthy and citric hops, but its was nothing to rave about. The taste was much hoppier, as the spicy and bitter flavors were apparent immediately. The malt was skeletal in nature and provided a stable but unspectacular foundation. The alcohol was completely hidden, and this one drank like many IPAs rather than the barleywine strength it really was. In the mouth, this felt, oily, slippery, and mercurial. This was a very unique creation indeed, but I found it somewhat empty.

Photo of Billolick
4.43/5  rDev +18.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22 ounce bomber, purchased at Sicilianos's in Grand Rapids MI. (sheesh, what a great place!) No bargain @ $8.19, but you get what you pay for and this one did not disappoint. Poured clear, glowing and glistening amber. Loose medium tan head, and better then average lace left on the glass. Bold, earthy, grassy and minty nose. Bursting with flavor, bold hops jumping onto the palate, alcohol present but mostly kept to the rear. High quality, very enjoyable heady stuff. Went great with a sand wedge of spicy humus and stinky blue cheese. Love these kinda big, bold and hoppalicious, over the top, all American beers...Bring on the bold flavors!

Photo of webmanspidey
3.68/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Has all the typical characteristics of Double IPAs: very bitter, hoppy, and alcoholic. Maybe a little overboard in some of the categories, as I had a difficult time slowly finishing the bomber I bought at the brewery. Definitely worth trying if you're a big Double IPA / Barleywine fan.

Photo of swizzlenuts
4/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer is poured with a dark copper colour and a small head, but the retention is great along with decent lacing. The nose on the beer is quite hoppy, but with a caramel hint to it. While drinking the beer, the bitterness comes out last; however, there is a huge malt backbone to the beer. There is caramel and nutty flavours that come together with the hops; also, there is a pretty strong alcohol warming with the beer. The mouthfeel is creamy with a bit of carbonation. Decently drinkable.

Photo of Lepley
3.88/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours thick tan-orange with a little tan head.
S: Sweet and strong. I was able to smell the hops it without holding the glass up.
T: Sweet fruits, hoppiness. Alcohol burns in its aftertaste.
M: Thick with good carbonation.
D: This is a solid imperial IPA. I recommend trying it.

Photo of blakesell
4.53/5  rDev +20.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Poured from the tap into a Lindeman's Framboise glass.

Appearance- Beer pours a clear golden with a very creamy looking half finger head. Lacing is very ample, and baby gots her some very nice looking legs. Head never dies down, merely subsides to a murk of foamy goodness across the top.

Smell- Oh sweet gluey jesus, perfumery and powerful pine hops that will never subside, I can tell already. The damn drunken smokers next to me are making this beer harder to smell, but the hops still leap out at me. Grapefruit, cat piss, antiseptic, I catch oak, but I think it's all in my head.

Taste- Rich hoppy goddess! This elixir is filled to the brim with sweet pine freshness, lush citrus, biting, slightly burning alcohol, the taste lingers and metamorphoses on the tongue. Lightly soapy, but just about every other hop nuance is on the mouth as well, so it'll pass.

Mouthfeel- Creamy, warming, thick, gluey, full bodied, lightly astringent, highly carbonated, sticky, excellent.

Drinkability- Higher drinkability than the bottle, a pleasure and I would love to have it on tap at home.

Photo of TurdFurgison
3/5  rDev -20%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I had 1/2 a bomber in a pint glass. The beer was clear, bright copper colored, with a thick and sticky poof of foam, some laing too. The aroma wasn't near hoppy enough, I expected a lot more hops due to large hop graphic printed on the bottle. Instead, this beer smelled like sweet malts, a touch of hops, and ethanol. The taste was a bit boozy too, kind of barley-wine flavored in that the large malt bill pushed the flavor with a citrus hops character playing backseat. The mouthfeel was thick, again I think there was a large malt bill, but drinkability is only average as the alcohol is evident and the flavor really isn't as tasty as I'd hoped.

Photo of FtownThrowDown
4.22/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On draft at Glendale Cafe.
Pours a ruby red in color with brownish undertones. Very big on the smell. You can tell right away that this is big beer. Plenty of malt and sweetness in the taste. Followed by some hops to help round it out. Not incredibly complex, but a good beer. Mouthfeel is huge and creamy. Slightly bittering as well.

Photo of Monkeyknife
3.63/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from the bottle a clear and bright gold color with a whisper thin off-white head.

The aroma is bright with sweet malts, piney hops, and a whiff of booze.

The taste is quite malty up front revealing butterscotch and vanilla while slowly uncovering a bitter hoppiness. The alcohol is definitely present and warming to the palate.

Medium bodied, warming, and moderately carbonated.

A better balance between the malts and hops would have helped. Overall, not a bad DIPA and definitely worthy of a try.

Photo of jbphoto88
2.75/5  rDev -26.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured from the 22 oz brown bottle into a seidel mug. No best by date. Weak carbonation, thin soapy looking head that fades fast down to a copper colored cough syrup looking beer.

The scent is weak for the style, in fact I think its weak for any style. There is light malts and ghostly remnants of hops. Every now and then I get a whiff of citrus... I think... but its gone just as fast.

The taste is a lot like the smell. Nothing big about it, mostly its a sweet malty one. Kind of syrupy in its consistency but nothing else. There is no hop flavors nor is there any residual bitterness or spice.

Rather disappointing offering. The only positive is the high ABV. Hopefully by the end of this bottle I will be drunk enough to forget the inadequacy's of this beverage.

Photo of Mdog
3.9/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: A medium pour gives a pretty cascade of bubbles that create a small head. Amber in color.

Smell: Citrus, deep caramel, a little bit of booze.

Taste: Nice sweet caramel with a dry citrus finish. Starts to get a little hot in alcohol after a few tastes.

Drinkability: Good for a change of pace but better DIPA's are out there.

I figured, it has a hop cone on the bottle, it must be good. The hops weren't as prominent as expected but it was still a good beer. Seemed a little more on the malty side than hoppy.

Photo of kzoobrew
3.93/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pour a burnt orange color bright white head with decent retention.

Smell is not so large. Citrus and floral hops are light no the nose. Very pleasant aroma, just less than expected.

Flavor reminds me of a Barley wine more than a DIPA.
Hoppy bitterness does not stand out in front of the sweet malt. Wonderful flavor just confused on the style.

Smooth moth feel, slick and oily.

Very drinkable, especially for the abv.

Photo of cvstrickland
2.95/5  rDev -21.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

Double-deuce bomber with a big-ass hop silk-screen printed on the bottle looks promising. Pouring the beer into a tulip glass yields a clear red-orange-amber body with a fat finger-thick cap of pale, extremely fine-bubbled foam that retains at a big bubbly ring and leaves sticky lacing.

Smell is faint. Where are the hops? A little caramel and an earthy note make me wonder again, "Where are the damned hops?"

Taste is sweet, sweet, with a tang of alcohol-laden lemon and boozy orange. Syrupy mouthfeel and simple-syrupy sweetness is only countered by a vicious cheap vodka-style alcohol bite, as there is no hop bite to speak of. Wait, I'm wrong. There it is/was... a little sticky green thing in the aftertaste...right before the intense alcohol warming made me break into a sweat and set my fingers tingling. Caramel is more prominent as the beer warms, but as if miraculously, the alcohol begins to subside (probably as it numbs my palate and my brain). No, I'm wrong again...it's still as strong as ever. I'd rather shoot Jack Daniels if I want a burn and violent alcohol flavors. Hell, Jack is smoother than this!!!

Wincing, hating this beer a little. Dreading each caramelly-boozy swallow, but too stupid to dump it in the sink where it belongs. Feeling the burn and a nice little buzz. Never buying this again, as Olde English High-Gravity is waaay cheaper, and probably has just as many hops in it.

One more time:

Q: So, where are the damned hops?

A: Screen-printed on the bottle.

Photo of mntlover
3.68/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a rich amber color with small off white head that falls quickly to clumped foam, leaves some decent lace.

Aroma is nice rich earthy caramel dripping with hints of molasses, nice pine resin notes hidden underneath. Nice rich smelling not as hoppy as most I2PA's but very relaxing soothing smelling.

Taste is big on caramel malts sweet slightly cloying with nice alcohol notes. Kind of Old Ale or Strong Ale tasting more then I2PA. Hops can hardly keep up with big malt base that becomes more alcoholic as it warms, hardly a hop monster but not bad either, just need to relabel bottle.

Mouthfeel is not as big as all the malt would suggest but a medium with mellow carbonation.

Drinkability is good just don't expect an I2PA and all will be good. Not a bad beer just not what the bottle states it is.

Photo of UA8
3.9/5  rDev +4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A- Pour a rich amber color with nearly no head and a bit of white foam.

S- Nose starts with hints of citrus hops and then moves on to warm alcohol

T- Combination of bitter hops and sweet malts dominate the flavor, finishes with alcohol warmth.

M- A bit on the thin side, alcohol warmth dominates.

D- Something that you could do maybe one of in a night, not a session beer. Pretty nice example of a barley wine. However there maybe better examples of the style out there for less money.

Photo of Stinkypuss
3.63/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

a. Hazy golden yellow with some nice head and lacing.

s. Piney hops dominate the nose theres some boozey notes too.

t,m,d. Caramel and a huge wave of hops riding along. An alcohal bite finishes leaving the palate quite dry. Medium bodied. Pretty well crafted, but the alcohalic bite is a bit extreme. A must for hop heads. Kind of like an intensely hopped barley wine.

New Holland Existential: Hopwine from New Holland Brewing Company
85 out of 100 based on 142 ratings.