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Charkoota Rye - New Holland Brewing Company

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Ratings: 223
Reviews: 130
rAvg: 3.56
pDev: 21.07%


Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Smoked Beer |  7.79% ABV

Availability: Fall

Notes/Commercial Description:
Charkoota Rye - Smoked Doppelbock Lager

Charkoota Rye is a Smoked Rye Dopplebock. Charkoota Rye's malty backbone is derived from a blend of rye and four other malts, including malted barley smoked over cherry wood by our very own brewers, John and Jeff.

Its smoke-forward body is balanced with tones of deep mollasses and caramel, with a crisp, clean lager finish.

19° Plato, Alc. 7.75% by Vol.

(Beer added by: Deuane on 01-04-2009)
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tectactoe

Michigan

3.71/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap at the Park bar in Detroit. Pours a dark mahogany and woody-brown color, laced in deep, ruby red edges. The head is a darker shade of tan with a light ruby tint to it, showing decent retention and some wet legging. This beer looks pretty damn good.

So this is a smoked doppelbock? I guess I can see that. The aroma gives way to a plentiful amount of smoked malt - liquid smoke, mild charcoal, and a certain campfire-like woodiness. Smoked malt tends to be pretty damn potent, and can often engulf and shadow any other present aromas and/or tastes if used too liberally. In the aroma, however, I can still discern the "doppelbock" qualities of this one; sweet molasses is probably second-in-command behind the smoke. A light bit of salt, dark fruit, burnt caramel, and more wood bring up the rear.

The first sip opens up wit a blanket of liquid smoke that comes out strong, but quickly gives way to some of the other flavors lying beneath it. Heavy wood, molasses, deep prunes, and even a mild nuttiness. The more I drink, the more I realize how intact the smoke remains from start to finish, giving off mild hints of campfires, bacon, and smoked meat. Mild bitter twinge on the tail end, cutting through the sweetness from the malt, making for a surprisingly dry finish. Then again, maybe it's the rye that helps provide for the dry finish. I don't taste much rye in itself, but maybe it can be held accountable for that ending bitterness. Medium bodied, slick mouth feel, low carbonation.

Smoked beers are very hit and miss, mostly due to the finesse needed when dealing with smoked malt. This beer wasn't bad at all. I would have liked a little bit more flavor to pop - though the smoke wasn't "overdone", by the end of the beer, my palate was starting to get tired of it. Good in smaller doses, and still pretty tasty overall.

Serving type: on-tap

03-13-2013 11:54:35 | More by tectactoe
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doucmehu

Wisconsin

3.65/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On tap at Groveland in St. Paul, served at a very reasonable, warmer than average temp.

A: Deep brown pour with little light around the edge, minimal tan head that fades quickly. Some lacing hangs around.

S: APPLEWOOD SMOKED BACON! Seriously though, this is definitely a smoke-forward beer. Lots of firewood and roasted red meat, with a hint of brown sugar sweetness.

T: As expected, tons of smokiness. This is very close to a rauchbier, but with a hint more sweetness and toffee malt. The bacon flavor continues.

M: Rich, smooth and heavy body with fair carbonation. It is hard to focus on the MF with all this smoky meat, but it works well with the flavors.

O: I am not a huge smoked beer fan, but this seems fairly well done. There is a huge smoked malt presence, which is great for a sipper but detracts from the drinkability. There is no way I could have more than 8-10oz. of this, and it would be best paired with an indulgent, pungent food.

Serving type: on-tap

02-09-2012 02:52:34 | More by doucmehu
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elNopalero

Texas

4.43/5  rDev +24.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This is smoked rye dopplebock. Burgundy-brown in color. The smoke aroma fills the glass and is the first thing I noticed—as well as the last. There’s some notes of sweet smoked woods (applewood? Cherrywood?) that approximate, in my mind, a combination of the fruit and grilling. It has a sharp, focused flavor—the smokiness dominates, definitely, with enough maltiness to give it body and heft, and a dopplebock sweetness to balance it out. I’d definitely try it again.

Serving type: on-tap

12-19-2011 17:18:52 | More by elNopalero
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oline73

Maryland

3.25/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I had this on-tap at the brewpub during our Michigan trip in September. I just found the notes I took now. Served in a goblet.

Appearance: Pours a dark mahogany color with almost not head.

Smell: Smoked malt is accompanied by sweet dark fruit. There is a mild spiciness to this beer from the rye.

Taste: Very similar to the smell. Smokey and sweet from the malt. Dark fruit notes with a mildly bitter finish. I'm not in love with the aftertaste.

Mouthfeel: Medium body and a bit sticky. The carbonation level is mild with a dry finish.

Overall: I thought this beer was quite good at first, but it got harder to drink as I made my way through the pour. There was a slightly weird aftertaste that I wasn't a huge fan of.

Serving type: on-tap

10-30-2011 19:53:35 | More by oline73
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mryuk

Illinois

3.05/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

pours a dark amber with a finger of head.

smell is very overpowering. smoke and specifically pork smoke. interesting but maybe more desirable on meat.

taste is very sweet with strong smoke flavors as well.

mouth is thick with low carbonation.

drinkability is not great. weird and bacony. i like my beer and bacon separate.

Serving type: on-tap

09-18-2011 03:19:32 | More by mryuk
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salvo

Indiana

4.35/5  rDev +22.2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Charkoota Rye is a really nice surprise. Rich black lager malt and lager yeast made new and exciting with a milky richness and sweet smokiness that is well-balanced. A welcome change and nice surprise: an extreme beer that is flavorful, rich, and drinkable.

Would be great with smoked meats or BBQ. Really complex and spicy finish: not sure which flavors to concentrate on! The rich chocolate malts? Smoke and rich earthiness? The subtle saltiness? The rich mouthfeel, almost like milk? Or the long drying finish that makes me wonder what I was drinking?

Finished like an APA or even IPA. Smoke was present but not overpowering, and while it went well with the spicy meaty pizza, I would really like to try it with real slow-smoked BBQ. This is a new batch on tap, and I'm really aching to pop open the 2010 vintage bottles found at RePete's Party Store in Holland, MI.

Serving type: on-tap

09-05-2011 02:06:50 | More by salvo
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Stinkypuss

Pennsylvania

3.55/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

New Holland Charkoota Rye

Pours a deep brown color, off white head forms and leaves wispy lace. Aroma is malty, peaty, and somewhat sweet smelling with mild campfire suggestions. The flavor follows the nose to a point, with brown sugar, caramel, munich malts, molasses and a touch of smoke. I did not find the smoke to be overbearing, it melded nicely with the rye notes. Smooth and almost creamy, a well made lager that I would definately have again. Would be a great candidate to marinate pork as well.

Serving type: on-tap

08-23-2011 21:20:31 | More by Stinkypuss
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JohnnyHopps

Indiana

4.2/5  rDev +18%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I sampled this beer on tap at New Holland on 08/13/2011. The color was a rusty copper with a slight head. The smoke in the aroma was very apparent but not overpowering. I believe the key to a good smoked beer is for the flavor to not be sensely murdered by saltiness as is the case in Three Floyds Ham & Rye. The other problem with smoke beers is not enough flavor. This beer is well balanced. It has a nice smoke taste without being overly salty. It goes down very smooth. Unlikely a number of smoke beers, you can drink more than a sample without becoming bored. The aftertaste stays on the tongue for a while, but is able to go with a meal and not kill the flavor of the meal. It is certainly among the more balanced smoke beers.

Serving type: on-tap

08-14-2011 18:58:50 | More by JohnnyHopps
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ModemMisuser

Indiana

4.65/5  rDev +30.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Had on tap @ NH.

I've not had very many smoked beers - perhaps half a dozen, counting this one. Most of them don't bring much smoke flavor.

This one sure as heck does. Wow. Aroma and taste are essentially pure smoke, with the Bocky-notes way, way in the background.

It's put forth as a smoked beer, and it brings it - thus I'm rating it very high.

Serving type: on-tap

07-06-2011 17:31:06 | More by ModemMisuser
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smakawhat

Maryland

3.18/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Poured out of the tap into a medium sized snifter at Meridian Pint DC.

An absolute almost jet black, midnight black body, very dark with a small tiny off tan head that is quite small and disappears slowly. As the drink finishes, the body gives off a wonderful nice red hue along the edges. Very nice looking.

First smell is a mild smokey sensation but completely taken over by a medicinal novocaine. After a little while there's some hints at meaty jerky salts, but the novocaine takes over and the smell is virtually numbing.

Taste at first brings what is expected on the nose, but there is a good bit of sweetness too. Chewing tobacco like properties but then again it gives way and is taken over by that medicinal novocaine sensation. Palate numbing with some milk chocolate on the finish, but after many sips all I can taste is medicine and a dental lab.

Knock off that medicinal bent on this and the drink will sing, but otherwise it has a glaring fault.

Serving type: on-tap

06-08-2011 23:54:46 | More by smakawhat
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metter98

New York

3.78/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer is clear dark amber in color and poured with a thin beige head that quickly faded away, leaving a ring of bubbles around the edge of the glass.
S: There are strong aromas of smoke in the nose.
T: Like the smell, the taste is filled with smoky flavors and has some hints of spices from the rye in the finish.
M: It feels medium-bodied and a bit thin and watery on the palate with a light amount of carbonation.
O: The beer goes down rather smoothly and isn’t that difficult to drink because the smokiness is not overpowering.

Serving type: on-tap

06-08-2011 00:59:47 | More by metter98
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corby112

Pennsylvania

3.98/5  rDev +11.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

Sampled on tap at Kraftwerk during their New Holland event on 2/5/11.

Pours a deep dark brown color that appears almost black in the glass and completely opaque with slight mahogany edges when held to a light source. One finger beige head that quickly fades into a thin ring that doesn't leave much lacing to speak of.

Nice smokey aroma but this isn't a complete smoke bomb. Nice roasted smokey character with hints of charcoal, BBQ, bacon and a campfire scent. Although it's smokey, the sweeter malt notes are evident with hints of rye, caramel and toffee.

Medium bodied with a good bit of smoke character that lingers throughout into a sweet yet dry finish. Hints of charcoal, bacon, BBQ and campfire but there's a nice balance of sweeter malt notes, especially caramel, toffee and vinous dark fruit. There's some cherry flavor from the wood aging as well as some grape, fig and plum. Well balanced and very drinkable. Not as smokey as I usually prefer but this was a good example of the style.

Serving type: on-tap

02-07-2011 09:12:08 | More by corby112
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zeff80

Missouri

3.88/5  rDev +9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Poured a dark, dark brown color with a small, light brown head of foam. It left some soapy trails of lace.

S - Campfire aroma with notes of wood and smoked meats.

T - Smoke flavor is less strong than the aroma. Good caramel maltiness that you'd expect in a dopplebock.

M - It was crisp, sharp and smooth. A medium bodied ale with a somewhat dry finish.

D - This is an interesting brew. Light on the smoke flavor with a nice caramel presence.

Serving type: on-tap

10-24-2010 14:06:55 | More by zeff80
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OneDropSoup

Pennsylvania

4.4/5  rDev +23.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Had this on tap at 6 & Save in New Kensington, PA.

Poured into a tulip glass, a translucent black (huh?) with some amber highlights, a thin dusting of head, no lace to speak of.

Smells of sweet smoke, like caramelized onion or smoked salmon, dark caramel flavors, burnt marshmellow. Love the smell.

Taste follows through with the smells, thick with smoky sweetness. Like taking some bacon & maple syrup, throwing them in a blender & adding some Scotch (sans the disgusting texture that would produce). Some dark fruits there as well, just a little though.

The mouthfeel is smooth & cool, not hot despite the higher ABV, a little on the thick side but not syrupy.

Drinkability = delicious. There's a lot of flavor to this, & I didn't catch much of a buzz from it. Smoked beers are a rarity for me, & I really enjoyed this.

Serving type: on-tap

11-04-2009 14:41:18 | More by OneDropSoup
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botham

Illinois

4.08/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On tap at the Sugar Maple in Milwaukee. Pours a deep chocolate brown with a single finger of off white head that has moderate retention and leaves no lacings.

Aroma is of light smoke and a subtle malty base. Almost a brown ale with a smokey front. Nicely composed in the nose, with a smoked character that is most prevalent, but does not take away from an existing malt character. Very well proportioned in the nose.

Taste is more of the same with a smokey front end and a very light malt and roasted note in the middle, along with a finish of smooth smoke that leaves the palate wanting more.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied and mildly sticky with a solid smoked quality that carries through to the aftertaste.

Drinkability is great. For a smoked beer, this is a solid example. The smoke is the focus but it is not overdone. Cheers!

Serving type: on-tap

10-27-2009 16:27:27 | More by botham
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adamette

Ohio

2.3/5  rDev -35.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

As served at the brewery on tap into a clean, clear pint glass during my visit there within the past week. Review from notes of course.

A Dark brown, translucent body with minimal head. 3.5

S Rye, dopplebock dankness, musty, farmhouse smell with some alcohol. 3.5

T Farmhouse taste like the smell of graxing sheep, not good. Grains, yeast conspire to make a very unwelcome taste. I have tasted other dopplebocks that share this unwelcome taste quality but this beer demonstrates it the most severe way. I really like New Holland as a brewery, evidenced by the visit I am making at this time, but this is not a good beer in my opinion. 1.5

M Full with grain tastes, ABV. 3.5

D Not good due to the taste that is not pleasing to me. 2.0

Serving type: on-tap

10-19-2009 03:06:55 | More by adamette
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emerge077

Illinois

3.23/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Served in a New Holland high gravity glass @ Bad Apple.

This dark brew glints scarlet in the light. A very attractive tone, jewel like with a tight cap of khaki foam topping it off. Retention is pretty good too, lasting for the duration.

Aroma is smoky, peaty with a pronounced sterile gauze/band aid note. Not a fan. This carries over into the flavor too unfortunately. At room temperature, there's an underlying warm maltiness and light rye spiciness. Even carbonation and a full body. A sipper probably best paired with cured meats. Not the best use of smoked malt, hope they reformulate with less band-aid in the mix next batch.

Serving type: on-tap

10-11-2009 01:19:04 | More by emerge077
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drpimento

Wisconsin

4.28/5  rDev +20.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Whoa! Man, love this beer right off. Yummm.... Served with a large, foamy, light tan head and a little lace. Color is deep dark amber with chestnut hightlights. Aroma is a luscious, rich, smokey, dark malt, raisins, dark ripe fruit, leather, and a bit of dark cocoa. Flavor's about the same with sweetness coming out at the end. Great body and carbonation. Boozy at the very end. A session beer for slow, easy quaffing.

Serving type: on-tap

10-06-2009 00:26:09 | More by drpimento
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Natural510

Ohio

3.88/5  rDev +9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Offered at South Park Tavern in Dayton OH. Listed as "NH Stone Dopplebock Lager" but after looking on the New Holland website, this seems to fit the description and be the same brew.

Pours an extremely dark, opaque color, with crimson red highlights when held to light. No head in my pint pour, and no carbonation in the glass, but the sample originally given had a rich, brown foam.
Scent, as with the flavor, is incredibly unique. As the bartender intimated, an acquired taste. I'm still at a loss to fully describe it...somewhere in the range of mahogany wood, smoked meat, and burnt rubber. It can either be off-putting or deliciously unique, depending on your mood.
The woody, smoky, spicy scent is replicated in the flavor as well. While overpowering, it is backed up by the prototypical dopplebock brown sugary malt.
Thick and dense in the mouth; could use a bit more carbonation but doesn't taste flat.
Drinkability depends on one's tolerance for smoked beers; I personally enjoyed its uniqueness, and a good rachbier in general, so perhaps you will too.

Serving type: on-tap

09-29-2009 04:18:48 | More by Natural510
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Deuane

Pennsylvania

3.98/5  rDev +11.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at The Hop Cat in Grand Rapids. A new brew from NH, a smoked rye d-bock, cool.

A-Deep, brown tinted copper with a thin ring of light tan, spotty lace.

S-Light hickory smoked bacon aroma and a bit of sour mash malt.

T-Hickory smoke up front with supporting notes of chocolate, rich caramel malt and a sour mash tartness. Dry finish creeps in thanks to the rye malt.

M-Medium bodied and silky smooth. Smoky flavours linger nicely.

D-Well done, only the second smoked D-bock I have had, the other being Left Hand Goosinator. This one is about as good. A variation on a classic style I am really liking.

Serving type: on-tap

01-04-2009 08:11:53 | More by Deuane
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BoilerMo

Indiana

3.64/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

a: Nice brownish amber hints

s: smokey with ahint of sweetness

t: the smoke is right out front and burnt grains were present

m: Nice mouth and good smokey finish, like you just drank a camp fire.

o: I dont personally like drinking a campfire, but it is a smoked rye so if that is your thing then this one has it. If you like a strong smokey flavor and burnt grains this is a good beer for you. (If you are looking for a more traditional dopplebock this isnt a good choice.)

Serving type: bottle

02-24-2014 15:29:00 | More by BoilerMo
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Ego

New Jersey

3.68/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

2011 vintage

eyes...
nearly black, one full finger plus a smidge of micro bubble constructed head, ebbs and flows like the ocean tide, nice retention after a good 10 minutes of sitting here, a solid looking brew

nose...
hyper sweet molasses in a fire, upon further snorting the smoke is really starting to race to the front and dominate, the smoke is mouth watering, it really does remind me of bamburg type brews with just a mere hint of fruity sweetness at the tip if the smoke, if you dig smoke, dig this...

taste etc...
ever been utterly confused by a first taste? I'm there... (pausing to try and begin to describe what is going on right now)...
first glance you get some sweet malts (briefly), then there is a very strong sour flavor, hard to compare, not sour like lemon or a lambic... but sour ... like tart cherries. I suppose, that's the best I can do right now, then the smoke HITS, and boy does it, the sour would make this undrinkable but the smoke tames it.... enough? hmm... not sure about that. This drinks smoothly and the carbonation is perfectly matched to the body.

verdict?
the smoke is absolutely wonderful here but the sour note really is a touch too strong, maybe this is better was a dessert type after some righteous bbq pig etc. I can't imagine this through an entire meal, might make a hell of an interesting sauce/marinade/braising liquid....

Serving type: bottle

12-16-2012 05:55:35 | More by Ego
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sprucetip

Alaska

2.35/5  rDev -34%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

201 vintage. Darker than mahogany, minimal head and retention, no lacing, and not alot of activity. It's thin enough to see through if you look at it with the lighting or angle just right.

Smoke. That's about it.

Smoked malt and malty sweetness with some dark fruit. Mostly smoky. Tad bit of bitterness in the finish.

The feel is probably the best part, and normally the feel isn't a super important element to me. Lightly carbonated, medium body, slightly bitter finish.

My brother bought 2 bottles, and didn't like it. He gave me the other. I like Alaskan Smoked Porter and to a lesser extent Stone Smoked Porter. I'm down with a good smoked beer. But I'd heard some other folks say it was not good, so it took me a couple of years to get around to opening it. It isn't as horrible as one guy told me ("the worst beer I've ever had"), but I think most of it is going down the drain so I can drink something I really like. The smoke is way overdone here (though Alaskan Smoked Porter is very smoky and I love it), and it is almost cloyingly sweet too. I'm not really a drain pour type of guy unless something is infected, but I will be going against my typical tendencies in this case.

Serving type: bottle

12-06-2012 02:40:03 | More by sprucetip
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spinrsx

Ontario (Canada)

3.28/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22oz Bottle - Thanks to slyvain for this one

Appearance - Brown colour with with a an average size fizzy off-white head. There is a low amount of carbonation showing and there is some fair lacing. The head lasted for 3-4 minutes before it was gone.

Smell - Malts, dark fruits, smoke/burnt notes, peat

Taste & Mouth - There is an average amount of carbonation and I can taste malts, dark fruits, and some smoke/burnt notes. There is also an odd meaty/peat flavour and some rye. It ends with a smokey aftertaste.

Overall - Almost like smoked barleywine taste wise. I'm not a fan of smokey beers.. and this one didn't do anything to change my opinion. Fans of the style will surely enjoy this.

Serving type: bottle

09-24-2012 17:49:21 | More by spinrsx
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WoodBrew

Illinois

4.15/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Did the brewer hit his mark...YES. Do I love this beer....Not Really. Poured from a 22 oz. bomber into a pint glass, Charkoota Rye is an amber-brown in the glass, with a thin, off-white head; almost a cola-like appearance. Nose is of sweet, dark, roasty malts; black licorice, molasses, smoked peat, burnt chocolate and coffee are all present. The taste is similar to the nose with the smoky characteristics coming to the forefront. The beer is dry but not terribly acrid with a very thin carbonation. The increased ABV increases the drying effect but doesn't seem quite as high as the 8.4% listed on the bottle. Overall, as drinkable for a beer as strongly flavored and high in alcohol as a beer like this can be.

Serving type: bottle

08-11-2012 19:16:17 | More by WoodBrew
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Charkoota Rye from New Holland Brewing Company
81 out of 100 based on 223 ratings.