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Charkoota Rye - New Holland Brewing Company

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Ratings: 224
Reviews: 130
rAvg: 3.56
pDev: 20.79%
Wants: 15
Gots: 10 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Smoked Beer |  7.79% ABV

Availability: Fall

Notes/Commercial Description:
Charkoota Rye - Smoked Doppelbock Lager

Charkoota Rye is a Smoked Rye Dopplebock. Charkoota Rye's malty backbone is derived from a blend of rye and four other malts, including malted barley smoked over cherry wood by our very own brewers, John and Jeff.

Its smoke-forward body is balanced with tones of deep mollasses and caramel, with a crisp, clean lager finish.

19° Plato, Alc. 7.75% by Vol.

(Beer added by: Deuane on 01-04-2009)
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4.35/5  rDev +22.2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Charkoota Rye is a really nice surprise. Rich black lager malt and lager yeast made new and exciting with a milky richness and sweet smokiness that is well-balanced. A welcome change and nice surprise: an extreme beer that is flavorful, rich, and drinkable.

Would be great with smoked meats or BBQ. Really complex and spicy finish: not sure which flavors to concentrate on! The rich chocolate malts? Smoke and rich earthiness? The subtle saltiness? The rich mouthfeel, almost like milk? Or the long drying finish that makes me wonder what I was drinking?

Finished like an APA or even IPA. Smoke was present but not overpowering, and while it went well with the spicy meaty pizza, I would really like to try it with real slow-smoked BBQ. This is a new batch on tap, and I'm really aching to pop open the 2010 vintage bottles found at RePete's Party Store in Holland, MI.

Serving type: on-tap

09-05-2011 02:06:50 | More by salvo
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1.35/5  rDev -62.1%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

With the exception of accidental ingestion of pig manure from my days growing up on the farm, this is the worse thing to EVER touch my tongue.

Flying Pig on the bottle...coincidence? I thinks not!

It looked like a good brew. That nice dark red hue through the glass with a decent head.

It smelled like last night's campfire.

Tasted like last night's campfire too!

Serving type: bottle

08-29-2011 01:57:59 | More by bluedragon710
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3.55/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

New Holland Charkoota Rye

Pours a deep brown color, off white head forms and leaves wispy lace. Aroma is malty, peaty, and somewhat sweet smelling with mild campfire suggestions. The flavor follows the nose to a point, with brown sugar, caramel, munich malts, molasses and a touch of smoke. I did not find the smoke to be overbearing, it melded nicely with the rye notes. Smooth and almost creamy, a well made lager that I would definately have again. Would be a great candidate to marinate pork as well.

Serving type: on-tap

08-23-2011 21:20:31 | More by Stinkypuss
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4.2/5  rDev +18%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I sampled this beer on tap at New Holland on 08/13/2011. The color was a rusty copper with a slight head. The smoke in the aroma was very apparent but not overpowering. I believe the key to a good smoked beer is for the flavor to not be sensely murdered by saltiness as is the case in Three Floyds Ham & Rye. The other problem with smoke beers is not enough flavor. This beer is well balanced. It has a nice smoke taste without being overly salty. It goes down very smooth. Unlikely a number of smoke beers, you can drink more than a sample without becoming bored. The aftertaste stays on the tongue for a while, but is able to go with a meal and not kill the flavor of the meal. It is certainly among the more balanced smoke beers.

Serving type: on-tap

08-14-2011 18:58:50 | More by JohnnyHopps
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4.65/5  rDev +30.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Had on tap @ NH.

I've not had very many smoked beers - perhaps half a dozen, counting this one. Most of them don't bring much smoke flavor.

This one sure as heck does. Wow. Aroma and taste are essentially pure smoke, with the Bocky-notes way, way in the background.

It's put forth as a smoked beer, and it brings it - thus I'm rating it very high.

Serving type: on-tap

07-06-2011 17:31:06 | More by ModemMisuser
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2.58/5  rDev -27.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

2010 Vintage on the bottle. This one poured with very little head and there was just lacing that stuck around the edge. Aroma is smoky but subtle and there is something else in there that is almost metallic.

The taste of sweet malts with just a little smoke. The finish on this thing is nothing other than odd. After each sip I have flashbacks of the nitro gas mask and being told to breathe right before passing out for wisdom teeth surgery. It has that full mouth tingle and taste just about the same. Good news is there is a light almost bacon aftertaste that lingers on your lips and that I tasted about 3 mins later but other than that is a bit off.

Maybe this is served a bit to cold but no notes on the bottle as far as rec. temp. Just removed from fridge and let set for about 10 min before opening. There is nothing that really steps forward for me. Even after reading the label again I can't figure this out. Very interesting but not something I would like again.

Serving type: bottle

07-06-2011 00:18:52 | More by lonestar4lunch
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Ontario (Canada)

4.22/5  rDev +18.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A bottle in the exhibitor's lounge at Mondial. Pours a ruddy brown with a finger of tan/eggshell head. Nose reveals a hickory smoke backed with earthy malts and a bready sweetness.

Quite a hefty body and sweetness to balance a deft hand on the smoke. Somewhere between campfire char and hickory smoked bacon, caramel and bready malts which border on syrupy but hold the smoke in check, earthy and slightly spicy rye, molasses, dark fruits, light drying finish. I'm not often a huge fan of smoke beers but this one is done well, they rye gives a nice complexity and the body is hefty enough to balance.

Serving type: bottle

06-22-2011 18:10:44 | More by ritzkiss
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4.08/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Charkoota Rye is a Smoked Rye Dopplebock, brewed with a blend of rye and four other malts, including malted barley smoked over cherry wood.

19° Plato, Alc. 7.75% by Vol. $7.99 for a 22oz bottle at Bevco.

Pours out to a clear very dark mahogany with burnished red edges, forming a small light tan head with OK retention and sparse lacing. Mildly carbonated. The aroma is really nice with plenty of forward smoke on top of a nice malt base, with the smoke pretty much covering any other aromas. Clean nose. The mouthfeel is smooth and silky with a dense body. The taste is really great. A malt forward thick syrupy dopplebock melded with rich smoke. Very mild bitterness...could stand to use a touch more to balance it and bring it all together as it stands, it is very syrupy and sweet.

This is a good beer, but I prefer the Aecht Schlenkerla urbock, which is more balanced compared to this. I don't pick up on any Rye at all.

Serving type: bottle

06-15-2011 22:58:05 | More by Mitchster
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3.18/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Poured out of the tap into a medium sized snifter at Meridian Pint DC.

An absolute almost jet black, midnight black body, very dark with a small tiny off tan head that is quite small and disappears slowly. As the drink finishes, the body gives off a wonderful nice red hue along the edges. Very nice looking.

First smell is a mild smokey sensation but completely taken over by a medicinal novocaine. After a little while there's some hints at meaty jerky salts, but the novocaine takes over and the smell is virtually numbing.

Taste at first brings what is expected on the nose, but there is a good bit of sweetness too. Chewing tobacco like properties but then again it gives way and is taken over by that medicinal novocaine sensation. Palate numbing with some milk chocolate on the finish, but after many sips all I can taste is medicine and a dental lab.

Knock off that medicinal bent on this and the drink will sing, but otherwise it has a glaring fault.

Serving type: on-tap

06-08-2011 23:54:46 | More by smakawhat
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New York

3.78/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer is clear dark amber in color and poured with a thin beige head that quickly faded away, leaving a ring of bubbles around the edge of the glass.
S: There are strong aromas of smoke in the nose.
T: Like the smell, the taste is filled with smoky flavors and has some hints of spices from the rye in the finish.
M: It feels medium-bodied and a bit thin and watery on the palate with a light amount of carbonation.
O: The beer goes down rather smoothly and isn’t that difficult to drink because the smokiness is not overpowering.

Serving type: on-tap

06-08-2011 00:59:47 | More by metter98
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3.68/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle courtesy of rmalinowski4. Served in a tulip.

Pours a very, very dark brown with a bit of a mahogany tint to it. Two-finger tan head forms but then dies down pretty quickly. Good partial cap with quite a few bubbles. The nose brings a slight amount of roasted malt along with a good dosing of smoke. Not as much smoked meat; more toward the bonfire end of the spectrum. Some charred wood there. Flavor has a good smoke presence along with a bit of bacon. Moderate roast as well. Medium body with a dry smokey character. Moderate carbonation. Interesting brew; glad to try this.

Serving type: bottle

06-05-2011 23:37:50 | More by Thorpe429
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3.48/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2010 Vintage, poured on 5-4-11 into my DFH snifter. dark brown/black but transparent, practically no head and no visual carbonation. I think this one is past its prime but here I proceed...I will review again if I have the chance to get a fresh bottle in the future.

Smell- peaty smoke reminiscent of a smokey scotch. some sweet bready malts, some caramel flavors.

Taste- a woody front taste, followed by a smokey sweet flavor, finished by some bitterness.

Mouthfeel- this is really lacking carbonation.

Drinkability- although interesting, I don't see searching this out again.

Serving type: bottle

05-05-2011 00:05:38 | More by lnashsig
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3.48/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to nanobrew for sharing this one.

A: The pour is a dark amber color with a short lived off-white head.

S: Very smokey aroma with a fairly evident rye smell. A light fruitiness hiding in the background with some roasted malts and a little bit of a salty character. Some charred wood in addition to the smoke.

T: Lots of smoke and burnt wood flavor. Slightly salty and meaty with the same light fruit character. There is a bit of rye along with some toasted bread and roast.

M: Medium in body with a moderate level of carbonation.

O: Perhaps a bit too much smoke and not really very balanced.

Serving type: bottle

04-23-2011 07:02:55 | More by womencantsail
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4.13/5  rDev +16%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Super deep blackened blood maroon tone in color. A light sandy brown soft and fluffy foam grows up to a thick finger high. The cap floats off shortly, leaving a thin ring and a few blobby strings of lacing flung about.

Fat smokey maple soaked bacon on the nose. Tangy molasses seeps within with a slightly sweet BBQ sauceyness to it. One hell of an appetizing aroma! You'd swear someone was mesquite grilling some bacon in your glass.

Taste is more set in its Doppelbock center with the smokey bacon sitting just around the edges as more of a duller raisin, smoother date, softened caramel, and lighter molasses sets the overall taste. Smooth and steady malt tones thoughout. Finish is clean and touched well with the sweetness of tangy BBQ sauce, applewood, and a bit of dark orange oil.

Smooth and easy going cleaner medium body with a slight pick up in malty girth in tone, a hike in flavor and body as it settles very evenly after each swallow. Builds a nice subtle smokey sweet touch as it literally smokes its way through to the finish.

A pretty solid brew that has the distinct smokey character of how smoke would really act. It just finds its way around the edges and builds lightly to fill the center of the palate. Fans of Smoked beers will most likely enjoy this balanced Doppelbock take of the style by New Holland. I know I did.

Serving type: bottle

04-16-2011 01:37:02 | More by tavernjef
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4.45/5  rDev +25%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Half-finger of orangey head dissipates into minimal lacing over an opaque dark brown body.

Nose is enigmatic, sweet, maybe pear-ish with some wood and some alcohol. This is an incredibly smoky beer, but it doesn't come through on the nose.

Now this is what I think of when I think smoked beer. It's incredibly malty, even peaty, with some well-done charred steak in for good measure. Somehow also tastes rich and creamy. Slight alcohol burn on the finish. It's intense though, more so than any German rauchbier I've tried.

Mouthfeel is nice and creamy, very fine-grain carbonation to break up the super-intense flavor.

This is a go-to for me and one of my favorites. This particular bottle doesn't live up to my memory, but I set the bar pretty high for it. It is indeed super-rich, so I'd recommend sharing this one unless you're super into smoke and malt.

Serving type: bottle

04-16-2011 01:30:21 | More by zaphodchak
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3.53/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance -- Pours a rich dark brown with chestnut highlights and a slim sudsy yellow head. Very vibrant head. Looks pretty good.

Smell -- Lots of rich woodsmoke, date sugar, dark fruitiness, mild rye spice and earthy hops. Rich and smoky.

Taste -- Roast malt sweetness takes the form of dates, fig pudding, and light molasses. Woodsmoke is well stated, not too heavy. Paired with the malt sweetness the smoke lends a bacon-like quality to the beer; the rye amplifies this characteristic. Moderate earthy hop bitterness enters in the finish, but really doesn't stand up to the nearly cloying malt sweetness.

Mouthfeel -- Medium to full in body with moderate carbonation. Slightly syrupy, but not bad.

Overall -- Good, but VERY rich. I wouldn't have possibly been able to put away a whole bottle by myself. The interplay of the woodsmoke and malt sweetness was good. I personally enjoyed the level of the smoke, but I can see others finding it too strong.

Serving type: bottle

03-20-2011 22:38:26 | More by yeahnatenelson
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Ontario (Canada)

3.98/5  rDev +11.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A mighty fine smoked beer. Pours dark, with a moderate white head to complement it. Significant smoked aromas, the whole 9 yards of smoke. Above average mouthfeel comes a great with a rolling maltiness, a little rye, a complex array of smoked malt that keeps the interest. Vert drinkable.

Serving type: bottle

03-20-2011 22:17:53 | More by Sammy
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3.93/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22 oz bottle into a pint glass. Pours a dark brown with very little carbonation or head, other than a thin tan shadow and a ring around the glass.

Smells very smokey, like a camp fire or a barbecue; some maple and molasses notes, and a meaty smell, like bacon or pork. Did I mention smoke?

Taste is not as smokey as the smell, but it is still there. Again, molasses and maple are prominent, with a decent malt backbone. There's a slight tartness, perhaps cherry or grape? As I get further into the beer, that fruity tartness gets sweeter and sweeter. Also, as I get further into the beer, the smoke becomes more prevalent in the taste, as an aroma in the back of the throat, almost up the back of the nose.

Medium to full bodied, with very little bitterness of hop presence.

Decent enough to drink, my only qualm is that I am by myself drinking 22 oz of very smoky beer. I wish I had saved this to share with a friend, because it is probity going to be too much as I get further into the beer.

Serving type: bottle

02-19-2011 02:10:43 | More by TheHoppiest
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4.18/5  rDev +17.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle, Bruery tulip, 2010 vintage, and a big 'ol thank you to Dunt for hitting a want.

The pour is quite still and yields up only the suggestion of bubbles, let alone head. The bubbles are predictable darker tan and flee to the edges, a few bold, big ones wander in the middle. The color is dark red with brown and has some of the purple mentioned by others.

Smoke is forward, combining with a salinity that instantly recalls Kalamata olives. Sweet wood smoke, maple, ash, brown sugar, cherry, and undeniably some cured pork suggestions.

Smoke and brown sugar are a great combination. I suppose I could have learned that from bacon, but I was raised a vegetarian. Overall it's sweet, but not too sweet, with dry wood through to ash smoothing and distracting. The base seems to be a good Doppelbock with cherry tones.

Syrupy with small, smooth, subtle carbonation. The lack of head isn't an accurate indicator of CO2. It really feels great on this beer.

I find this beer to be right up my alley. The sweetness and smoke play wonderfully off of each other without being overpowering for me. I'd love to have more.

Serving type: bottle

02-14-2011 01:36:45 | More by brewerburgundy
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3.1/5  rDev -12.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

Bright ruby red

smoke dominates, jerky, hints of chocolate, concord grapes, banana, dried fruits, almond, cherry, white pepper, and SMOKE

SMOKE, grapes, quince, chocolate, bread, pepper, almond, maple syrum, SMOKE

sticky and oily with low carbonation

Could barely finish my half of the bottle.

Really complex once you get past the smoke, too bad its so heavy on the palate

From notes, 12-14-10

Serving type: bottle

02-08-2011 01:23:42 | More by MrOH
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3.98/5  rDev +11.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

Sampled on tap at Kraftwerk during their New Holland event on 2/5/11.

Pours a deep dark brown color that appears almost black in the glass and completely opaque with slight mahogany edges when held to a light source. One finger beige head that quickly fades into a thin ring that doesn't leave much lacing to speak of.

Nice smokey aroma but this isn't a complete smoke bomb. Nice roasted smokey character with hints of charcoal, BBQ, bacon and a campfire scent. Although it's smokey, the sweeter malt notes are evident with hints of rye, caramel and toffee.

Medium bodied with a good bit of smoke character that lingers throughout into a sweet yet dry finish. Hints of charcoal, bacon, BBQ and campfire but there's a nice balance of sweeter malt notes, especially caramel, toffee and vinous dark fruit. There's some cherry flavor from the wood aging as well as some grape, fig and plum. Well balanced and very drinkable. Not as smokey as I usually prefer but this was a good example of the style.

Serving type: on-tap

02-07-2011 09:12:08 | More by corby112
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3.7/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I procured a pint plus of this particular potable while perusing the products of the Greenville Beer Exchange.

A - Pours almost flat with a fleeting brown head. Deep brown beer is only transparent at its amber-highlighted edges.

S - There is a smoky element here, obviously, which runs the show. I am not sure if it's just the pig on the bottle influencing me but I swear this smells a bit like bacon. Like the red rind of a peppered slice of bacon as it burns just slightly in hot grease. Malt strongly backs up this porcine-labeled lager.

T - Oh my god. Charkoota Rye. Charcuterie. I JUST GOT IT. Anyway, this burrr is extremely malty. Really chewy brown sugar malt balled up and wrapped in bacon and then smoked for many long hours.

M - Flat and medium bodied.

I knocked the drinkability down based on my personal preference. I like the beer fine, I just wasn't in a hurry to have a second any time soon.

Serving type: bottle

01-28-2011 00:10:29 | More by HeyItsChili
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2.05/5  rDev -42.4%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

A- Gentle low head formation. Small retention, low collar formation and little carbonation. Crimson body with some charred paper hints.

S- The smoked body on this is exactly what you'd expect from actually smoking wood in your presence. True campfire smell, that acrid wood smoke that begins to accrue in my nostrils and bring nauseous feelings up. Lots of charred pork notes, not to much sweetness to balance it. Some smells of noxious chemicals like melting plastic as well, could be some spicy rye in there but its very hidden most of the time.

T- Opens sweet bit of malt body, but quickly the overwhelming smoke starts to destroy me. Following that is a pork presence that may have been left in the light and heat of summer. Shaved, mashed, and turned into an extract of hate to be squirted into my mouth via this beer. Finish is predominantly grainy, spicy rye. The finish is actually good after a few seconds of torture.

M/D- This is really, really, really hard to drink. Mild body, low carbonation, a bit syrupy. I find the faster you drink the easier it is to hide the awful burnt, acrid, smoky, rancid pork flavors. I'd never ever ever suggest this out to anyone ever. I've had worse beers, and as it warmed it went from absolutely undrinkable, to just undrinkable. Least it looked average.

Serving type: bottle

01-26-2011 02:26:56 | More by Khazadum
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1.9/5  rDev -46.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

Bottle poured into a Narke glass...Pours a super dark maghongy, bordering on an a purple eggplant, but weirdly see through, sorta. Intriguing look. A light tan head rises about two fingers, falling quickly to a half a cap. Light lacing...Aroma is mostly smoke but not done a good way at all, all charred ash. A little rye and pork, just too mush ash, like I just entered a burnt down house. Alcohol is oddly present and strong on the finish...The taste is one of the most horrible things I've ever had. Charred ask, sugar plums, rye and sugar combine terribly...Medium feel with an unfortunately lasting taste...This is not drinkable.


Serving type: bottle

01-15-2011 00:26:26 | More by jrallen34
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3.63/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Let me preface this review by saying I enjoyed the beer but I was expecting more of a dopplebock than rye beer so maybe my expectations were a little off. Poured a reddish-brown body w/ one-finger offwhite head that died quick on top of a malt aroma. Stating the obvious I am w/ that malt aroma; smokey, little meaty, oaky woodiness with some roasted/toasted malts/barley as well as touch of caramel and black cherry. A very meaty-tasting beer, and I like it, but I was hoping for a more fruit and malt complexity in the taste. The beer has a stickiness from some molasses and goes down a tad haggard in a medium body but the toasted malts and rye balance for a dry edge that isn't overpwering. Little sweet but more dry but does mellow as it warms; can't really say there's much to sweet and fruitness other than caramel and cherry.

Serving type: bottle

12-30-2010 22:32:57 | More by clayrock81
Charkoota Rye from New Holland Brewing Company
81 out of 100 based on 224 ratings.