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Charkoota Rye - New Holland Brewing Company

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Ratings: 228
Reviews: 130
rAvg: 3.56
pDev: 20.79%
Wants: 15
Gots: 10 | FT: 0
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New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Smoked Beer |  7.79% ABV

Availability: Fall

Notes/Commercial Description:
Charkoota Rye - Smoked Doppelbock Lager

Charkoota Rye is a Smoked Rye Dopplebock. Charkoota Rye's malty backbone is derived from a blend of rye and four other malts, including malted barley smoked over cherry wood by our very own brewers, John and Jeff.

Its smoke-forward body is balanced with tones of deep mollasses and caramel, with a crisp, clean lager finish.

19° Plato, Alc. 7.75% by Vol.

(Beer added by: Deuane on 01-04-2009)
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techfed87

Michigan

3.55/5  rDev -0.3%

Came from a 22 oz. bottle from the local specialty store. Poured into an English style pint glass. Poured a very dark brown/amber red. A thin level of head came up for a few seconds, then dissipated quickly thereafter. With no head, almost impossible to gather a real scent from it.

Has a very full body flavor to it, can definitely pick up on big roast flavors with the first sip. Charcoally in a very nice way. Has a pretty nice body below the major flavor.

Rye is all over the body of the beer, however what makes it special is what they did with that rye. Compared to other Rye beers that are out on the market. This gives a twist to the style that makes it all worth while.

11-24-2009 00:31:44 | More by techfed87
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BeerFMAndy

Wisconsin

3.1/5  rDev -12.9%

22 oz bottle split and poured into a Sierra Nevada Imperial Pint. 22 degrees Plato, 8.17% ABV, no date.

Thank you Sweemzander for sharing this bottle!

A - Poured a clear dark mahogany color with a low tan head. Good retention which eventually left a ring of foam and a layer.

S - A big hickory smoked nose with a tiny malt presence in the background. Almost 100% smoke aroma. Nothing else really comes through cause it's overpowered. Decent through, the smoke smells good. I just wish there was something to back it up.

T - More hickory smoke. A good malt backbone is present behind but almost indistinguishable from the smoke flavor. The smoke isn't overpowering the palate, its a good level, but it just dominates everything else besides a lingering sugary sweetness which is no surprise from New Holland.

M - Dry and smoky with a very sweet feel. Medium-bodied and plain. A light carbonation finish to it.

D - Not bad. The smoke flavor is actually at a really good level as it's flavorful and not overpowering the senses, it's just not matched in careful consideration by malts or rye. It's another sugary and fairly one-dimensional beer from New Holland. They suggest that it be paired with pork and I think that would be really good with this beer.

11-22-2009 17:56:25 | More by BeerFMAndy
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Bighuge

Minnesota

4.28/5  rDev +20.2%

Crystal clear dark cherrywood appearance. Bubbly beige head caps it off. Loods very inviting...Aroma is quite nice. Just what I was expecting...rich malt mixed with some thick smoke. Smoke and malt enter the mouth side by side with a lot of authority. They work together quite nicely. The malts are fairly rich. The smokiness is really the main player. The rye doesn't contribute much to the flavor in my opinion. The mouthfeel is nice and round. Full body. Low carbonation, which is good. Quality stuff here. Very enjoyable.

11-22-2009 00:06:52 | More by Bighuge
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tipnsip

Illinois

1.93/5  rDev -45.8%

I picked up a 22 oz. bomber at an area Binny's. I was excited to try something new (or at least new to me) from one of my favorite brewers - New Holland.

Loved the flying pig on the bottle ... it poured dark & inviting into a pint glass ... the aroma wasn't very strong but seemed "ok".

First sips can be deceiving ... even a second sip can fail to reveal what a brew can truly offer. So I went for a third taste, and unfortunately Charkoota Rye was my first dissapointment from New Holland.

At first, it exhibits fairly typical dopplebock flavors, then a mild touch of sweetness glances over the tongue ... and then that's where things went south. The smoke flavor was almost chemical-like - harsh, caustic, synthetic. The finish was dry & somewhat spicy but mainly tasted like liquid smoke.

The only way I found it somewhat drinkable was by drinking it along with eating fatty fried chicken thighs. The richness of the dark meat & fat mellowed the harsh smoke flavor from this beer. IMO this would be great for marinating pork, or if you're inclined to drink it be sure to have something to eat along with it that has deep rich flavor. Whether it's cheese or meat, this beer needs something to balance its flavors.

I understand ... smoked beer is an art and it's easy to over-do it. New Holland makes fantastic beers ... but this one is just kinda nasty.

11-21-2009 23:23:37 | More by tipnsip
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Mcculler

Ohio

3.98/5  rDev +11.8%

Pours with a beautiful, bubbly, creamy head that quickly dissipates over an opaque, maroon body with ruby highlights. Little to no lacing.

Smells of cold smoke, smoked, dried (porcini?) mushrooms, smoked meat.

Tastes the same - with some dark fruits - cherry, plumb for instance - peeking out. Very dry, herbal, dried mushroomy finish.

Good mouthfeel, a little sweet and heavy, not cloying though, and with just enough carbonation to clean off the malt, though this is more of a sipping beer.

This beer has very little drinkability - a bomber is far too much without food or friends :(

I love this beer - one of the strangest, more interesting I've had recently. I think I agree with the reviewers who found this like a camping trip. Maybe better with friends. But its not one to finish the evening with, alone on a Saturday night.

11-15-2009 04:40:08 | More by Mcculler
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hosehead83

Ohio

4.5/5  rDev +26.4%

Poured from a 22oz. bomber(no freshness or expiration date evident) into a standard pint glass
Dark ruby/amber in color, with a thin, quickly dissapating head of foam
Aroma-Malt, some subtle smokiness
Taste-Sweet BBQ ,spicy rye,a tingly, smoky, warming finish-Almost porter-like in mouthfeel.
Complex flavor cries out for food pairing. Tangy, sweet-hot BBQ ribs would be a great match.
A must try for smoke-beer lovers, and certainly worth a try for a unique taste experience

11-09-2009 12:33:04 | More by hosehead83
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OneDropSoup

Pennsylvania

4.4/5  rDev +23.6%

Had this on tap at 6 & Save in New Kensington, PA.

Poured into a tulip glass, a translucent black (huh?) with some amber highlights, a thin dusting of head, no lace to speak of.

Smells of sweet smoke, like caramelized onion or smoked salmon, dark caramel flavors, burnt marshmellow. Love the smell.

Taste follows through with the smells, thick with smoky sweetness. Like taking some bacon & maple syrup, throwing them in a blender & adding some Scotch (sans the disgusting texture that would produce). Some dark fruits there as well, just a little though.

The mouthfeel is smooth & cool, not hot despite the higher ABV, a little on the thick side but not syrupy.

Drinkability = delicious. There's a lot of flavor to this, & I didn't catch much of a buzz from it. Smoked beers are a rarity for me, & I really enjoyed this.

11-04-2009 14:41:18 | More by OneDropSoup
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Shumista

Ohio

3.58/5  rDev +0.6%

Poured from a 22 oz. bottle into my beer mug.

A- Charkoota Rye pours a dark reddish brown with a very small off white head despite a fairly aggressive pour.
S- Honestly at first I was a bit turned off by the smell, but the more I adjusted to it, the better it became. There is burnt brown sugar, a charred smell, smoke and an earthy element in the aroma. Very intriguing, it reminds me of Rogue's Chipotle Ale without the chipotle.
T- Hmmm, very different. Charred and smoky flavor along with burnt brown sugar from the aroma. Tastes like funky bacon.
M- Medium to full bodied, thick and kind of chewy.
D- Pretty average, a bomber would be good to split during dinner.

I really wish I would have had the patience to save this until I had something good for dinner to pair it with. Pairing this one with any kind of homecooked comfort food seems like it would work nicely.

11-04-2009 07:13:43 | More by Shumista
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lackenhauser

Maryland

3.88/5  rDev +9%

Nice chestnut color. Very clean looking. Not a lot of carbonation evident. Huge smoke aroma up front-in fact that's all there is here. Somewhat of a wet canvas odor. Reminds me of a boy scout camping trip in a glass! While the odor dominates, the flavor is much of the same-a deep and woodsy smoke taste. Very malty but the smoke tends to dominate even that. Lingering, somewhat fruity sweetness. Hops are nowhere to be found. While nowhere near balanced it seems to work. I can imagine this with a pulled pork sandwich or some juicy ribs. Body is appropriate for style. While I almost want to dis this for being overbearing smoke wise I cannot. To hell with any sort of style. The blend of smoke and somewhat sweet woodsy flavor, along with a damp mustiness is really well done. It is like camping in your living room without your eyes burning. I love it in it's own weird way.

11-02-2009 03:23:28 | More by lackenhauser
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CRichardsMN

Minnesota

2.05/5  rDev -42.4%

Appearance:
Dark amber brown with a very clear complexion. Pours little to no head with only a bit of an off white film and no lacing.

Smell:
Overwhelming nose of smoke with a the unmistakable hint of rye and alcohol hidden in the background. Hard to pick out anything else.

Taste:
Again, huge woodsy smoke presence masks most other flavors. There is a bit of caramel sweetness, grain and alcohol but not rounded. Complex but not balanced. Would not immediately classify this as a doppelbock or lager but a rauchbier, which btw has not had a very pleasing representation in my experience. This is better than some I've had, however.

Mouthfeel:
Has a smooth yet fizzy touch. Medium body which is my only indication of the doppelbock style.

Drinkability:
I don't like to be the naysayer on this one (considering other reviewers) but this must indeed be a specialized taste. I don't hate the beer overall but would not likely seek it out again. Had a hard time finishing my third of the shared 22oz bottle.

Comment:
I am a huge fan of New Holland Brewery (creators of my favorite brew - Dragon's Milk) and have tried quite a few of their brews. I bought this beer on brand recognition alone, as I know that I typically don't dig the smoked style. True to form, I still can't get around the smoke. You can't win them all, but NHB still has at least one fan.

10-30-2009 03:15:34 | More by CRichardsMN
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tigg924

Massachusetts

3.88/5  rDev +9%

Appearance: ruby brownish in color, small head, clear

Smell: toasted malt and a touch of smoke

Taste: toasted malt, caramel, brown sugar, smoke in the middle, and touch of rye towards the end.

Mouthfeel: smooth, medium/light bodied, minimal carbonation, sweet

Drinkability: I like all of the different flavor combos in this unusually complex beer. The alcohol is well hidden. Most of the flavors are subtle and do not hit right away. This is a beer to savor and one I will look for again.

10-29-2009 17:22:27 | More by tigg924
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scruffwhor

Illinois

3.65/5  rDev +2.5%

Pours a clear, dark ruby color with a quick beige head and pretty good bubbling too. The aroma is of heavy smoke, meat, campfire, and some smoked apricots. The taste is super smokey of charred meet up front. The a more woody iddle with some carameled candy and camfire. The finish is of faint caramelized apricots and cherries, hint of burnt sugar and smoked oak barrels. The palate is smokey, rich and warm, but not hot or boozey. Don't really pick up any rye notes with this RYE dopplebock, bu its still pretty good.

10-28-2009 01:37:50 | More by scruffwhor
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botham

New York

4.08/5  rDev +14.6%

On tap at the Sugar Maple in Milwaukee. Pours a deep chocolate brown with a single finger of off white head that has moderate retention and leaves no lacings.

Aroma is of light smoke and a subtle malty base. Almost a brown ale with a smokey front. Nicely composed in the nose, with a smoked character that is most prevalent, but does not take away from an existing malt character. Very well proportioned in the nose.

Taste is more of the same with a smokey front end and a very light malt and roasted note in the middle, along with a finish of smooth smoke that leaves the palate wanting more.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied and mildly sticky with a solid smoked quality that carries through to the aftertaste.

Drinkability is great. For a smoked beer, this is a solid example. The smoke is the focus but it is not overdone. Cheers!

10-27-2009 16:27:27 | More by botham
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trbergman

Illinois

4.45/5  rDev +25%

22oz bottle poured into a cervoise.

A - Reddish chestnut with a thin, light tan head that reduces to a lace almost instantly.

S - Pumpernickel, molasses, smoke, dark berry fruit, dank and earthy. No trace of hops.

T - Excellent - everything is in perfect balance. Rich, sweet malt flavors play off spicy rye plays off subtle smokiness. Bitterness is just enough to keep the malt in check. Lacks the heavy-handed meaty bacon flavor found in other smoked beers and goes more for the evocative wood and brown sugar character. While the alcohol isn't hidden, it isn't at all distracting.

M - Medium-full body, very silky. Almost undercarbonated, though it works.

D - High drinkability for its strength. I'm a sucker for rye beers, so when I saw a smoked rye doppelbock, I knew I had to give it a try. At the same time, I've had mixed feelings about rauchbiers in the past, so I was pleasantly surprised to find something with a more subtle smoke flavor that didn't overwhelm the rest of the beer. Well done, New Holland!

10-22-2009 04:07:54 | More by trbergman
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alexgash

Connecticut

4.03/5  rDev +13.2%

22 oz. new-style bomber.

Dark maple syrupy brown body. Clean. Small, wispy, light beige head. Not much lacing. Brown sugar, caramel apples, hints of metal, smoked bacon, and cooked veggies. I want more smoke!

Thankfully, the taste delivers the smoke. Ashy campfire smoke up front. Herbal bitterness tries to hide in the background. Smoked meats and sweetish fruits blend nicely mid-palate. A little rummy cookie dough near the finish. Lingering smoke and malt sweetness. Some herbal bitterness. Medium-full body with a syrupy, slightly under-carbonated feel. I wish this was in 6 packs...we need more smoked beers!

10-21-2009 00:55:11 | More by alexgash
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atsprings

North Carolina

4.3/5  rDev +20.8%

22oz bottle labeled as 8.17% abv poured into a Duvel tulip a not dark brown almost black with a decent light-tan head that diminishes to a ring and leaves no lacing on the glass. Aroma is an interesting blend of burnt caramel and sharp rye. The taste is a wonderfully complex blend of rye, burnt caramel, dried fruits and mild cocoa. The beer is on the heavy side of medium with some warming alcohol and mild carbonation. This is a very unique and enjoyable beer, one I'd certainly have again.

10-20-2009 23:03:38 | More by atsprings
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adamette

Ohio

2.3/5  rDev -35.4%

As served at the brewery on tap into a clean, clear pint glass during my visit there within the past week. Review from notes of course.

A Dark brown, translucent body with minimal head. 3.5

S Rye, dopplebock dankness, musty, farmhouse smell with some alcohol. 3.5

T Farmhouse taste like the smell of graxing sheep, not good. Grains, yeast conspire to make a very unwelcome taste. I have tasted other dopplebocks that share this unwelcome taste quality but this beer demonstrates it the most severe way. I really like New Holland as a brewery, evidenced by the visit I am making at this time, but this is not a good beer in my opinion. 1.5

M Full with grain tastes, ABV. 3.5

D Not good due to the taste that is not pleasing to me. 2.0

10-19-2009 03:06:55 | More by adamette
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dfillius

Michigan

4.5/5  rDev +26.4%

Poured into pint glass
A: Moderate pour yields 1/4 finger off-white head with poor retention - more please. Clear deep crimson and brown liquid. Lack of head is offset by the beauty of the red in the liquid.
S: Smokehouse, wood stove, camp fire. Weak due to the lack of head. What is there is good though.
T: Sweet and smoky with a fair amount of wood flavor. Very smoky, equal to a rauchbier. Barbeque pulled pork sandwich. Very enjoyable, this is a wow/great beer.
M: Chewy, thick, silky
D: Amazingly high for a smoked beer. I want another pint and I'd like to buy again. Alcohol seems high though.

10-18-2009 22:18:04 | More by dfillius
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oberon

North Carolina

3.75/5  rDev +5.3%

A smoked rye doppelbock...hell yeah.Poured a a full deep amber with a large off white head that settled very slowly,just nice to llok at.Aromas are big in fruity malt with a tinge of sharpness I am guessing from the rye,the smoke is faint at first but some hardwood comes through as it warms.Flavors show of the light smoke the most,not much fruit and or sharpness, some molasses and brown sugar come into a lingering finsish,the mouthfeel is light to medium.Iam guessing its food friendly, but it just seems to be missing something.

10-16-2009 20:03:23 | More by oberon
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emerge077

Illinois

3.23/5  rDev -9.3%

Served in a New Holland high gravity glass @ Bad Apple.

This dark brew glints scarlet in the light. A very attractive tone, jewel like with a tight cap of khaki foam topping it off. Retention is pretty good too, lasting for the duration.

Aroma is smoky, peaty with a pronounced sterile gauze/band aid note. Not a fan. This carries over into the flavor too unfortunately. At room temperature, there's an underlying warm maltiness and light rye spiciness. Even carbonation and a full body. A sipper probably best paired with cured meats. Not the best use of smoked malt, hope they reformulate with less band-aid in the mix next batch.

10-11-2009 01:19:04 | More by emerge077
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stevenseg

Michigan

3.95/5  rDev +11%

A dopplebock rye lager? This could be good though I am definitely not a fan of lagers. I am a fan of deep ryes though, so I am looking forward to it.

I nice foamy head forms with a rather aggressive pour (which I tend to do with bottled beers). It settled into a nice film after a few minutes over a deep red body slightly redder than the color of the bottle itself.

I can smell the sweet rye malts in the sniffage of Charkoota. Light hops, but none of the lager character. That's a good thing. It's almost like a burnt cranberry smell.

Definitely burnt. The rye is great, but a little too much burnt smoked flavor to me. I think that I would like this better if the malts were slightly less-roasted, but I get what New Holland is going for as the CHARkoota is a "smoked dopplebock lager". That does make Charkoota taste more like a porter than a dopplebock.

The mouthfeel is typical of a medium-bodied lager. Carbonation density is typical, but pleasant. With such a porter flavor I would expect it to be heavier, but it's not.

Overall, I think the smokiness of the roasted malts overpowers the rye flavor, which I think should be more present. Ryes are supposed to be sweet and rich, not robust and charred. It's almost like drinking charred bbq ribs.

10-08-2009 01:45:23 | More by stevenseg
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drpimento

Wisconsin

4.28/5  rDev +20.2%

Whoa! Man, love this beer right off. Yummm.... Served with a large, foamy, light tan head and a little lace. Color is deep dark amber with chestnut hightlights. Aroma is a luscious, rich, smokey, dark malt, raisins, dark ripe fruit, leather, and a bit of dark cocoa. Flavor's about the same with sweetness coming out at the end. Great body and carbonation. Boozy at the very end. A session beer for slow, easy quaffing.

10-06-2009 00:26:09 | More by drpimento
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brc

Michigan

4.13/5  rDev +16%

From 22 oz bottle to tulip. ABV 8.17, Batch code 14036 22013.

Pours almost no head - a light skim of tan that's gone in two seconds. Dark brown liquid, fairly clear, especially considering all that's in here.

Strong jerky aroma. Some earthiness, and maybe a hint of toffee, but not much cuts through the bacon. Not as powerful as Schlenkerla out of the bottle, but quite strong.

It's surprising how much of the dopplebock character is in here, with the rye and smoke as well. The major flavor is from the smoked malts, but there are plum and brandy flavors filling the background. I can't pull out a noticeable rye flavor. Overall rich, complex, and balanced, even with no noticeable hop presence.

Medium mouthfeel. Very drinkable - no noticeable alcohol burn, and I'm not getting any rauchbier fatigue.

10-02-2009 23:54:39 | More by brc
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Natural510

Ohio

3.88/5  rDev +9%

Offered at South Park Tavern in Dayton OH. Listed as "NH Stone Dopplebock Lager" but after looking on the New Holland website, this seems to fit the description and be the same brew.

Pours an extremely dark, opaque color, with crimson red highlights when held to light. No head in my pint pour, and no carbonation in the glass, but the sample originally given had a rich, brown foam.
Scent, as with the flavor, is incredibly unique. As the bartender intimated, an acquired taste. I'm still at a loss to fully describe it...somewhere in the range of mahogany wood, smoked meat, and burnt rubber. It can either be off-putting or deliciously unique, depending on your mood.
The woody, smoky, spicy scent is replicated in the flavor as well. While overpowering, it is backed up by the prototypical dopplebock brown sugary malt.
Thick and dense in the mouth; could use a bit more carbonation but doesn't taste flat.
Drinkability depends on one's tolerance for smoked beers; I personally enjoyed its uniqueness, and a good rachbier in general, so perhaps you will too.

09-29-2009 04:18:48 | More by Natural510
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BierFan

Michigan

3.8/5  rDev +6.7%

poured from a 22 ounce bottle into a pint glass. 8.17% abv.

Appearance: Appropriate sized fizzy brown head, drops way too fast. Dark dark red body.

Smell: Less smoke than I was hoping for, but the smell is still mostly smoke. Mmm...smells porky.

Taste: First the malt sweetness. Than the porky smokiness. Smoke lingers on the tastebuds for a while and I get hints of chocolate in the aftertaste. Much more mellow and balanced than I was expecting.

09-26-2009 02:44:46 | More by BierFan
Charkoota Rye from New Holland Brewing Company
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