Dragon's Milk - New Holland Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
90
outstanding

4,604 Ratings
THE BROS
86
very good

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Ratings: 4,604
Reviews: 1,319
rAvg: 4.01
pDev: 13.47%
Wants: 272
Gots: 1,181 | FT: 41
Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  10.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: beernut7 on 08-12-2002

A barrel aged Imperial Stout with roasty malt character intermingled with deep vanilla tones, all dancing in an oak bath.

2014 Bottles are 11% ABV
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Ratings: 4,604 | Reviews: 1,319
Photo of docoman
3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

This was one of my first BA stouts and at the time thought was fantastic, but now that I've sampled many others... it's still good, but like others better. Has a sweet more of a creamer taste compared to others that are more chocolate and coffee flavors.

Photo of Flashy
3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

Purchased in Vermont for $14.99 a four pack (when did we start getting New Holland?). Nice stout, nice level of bourbon flavor- but lacks the thicker body that I like in this kind of beer.

Photo of Mauerhan
3.75/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

this has been sitting in my spare room for about a month.
chilled this afternoon then cracked as the redsox came back to tie a 7-0 lead. way to go tampa bay.

pours a dark brown. not much of a head even on a rather aggressive center pour. nice rich ruby highlights when held up to light.

smell is rich malty, some chocolate, oakie goodness, and a slight hint of vanilla.

taste is satisfying, as in the smell i get a nice amount of malts, a nice woodsy aftertaste with a warmth that leaves me happy. not great, but pretty decent none the less.

a very smooth drink with moderate to low carbonation.

i would most likely grab this beer again if i had the chance.

Photo of bamadog
3.75/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Cracked a bottle of this with beerman207 over the weekend. Review is from notes taken on 3/27/2010 and poured from the bottle to a pint glass.

Appearance: Pours a dark coffee brown and has nice deep ruby highlights when held to the light; loose and thin creamy/milky light tan head; body is dark and nearly opaque; loose and spotty light tan lacing holds on here and there to the sides of the glass.

Smell: Sweet oaky vanilla - the barrel really comes through on this one; definite whiff of alcohol that is bourbonesque; a bit of chocolate as well.

Taste: A lot going on here -- deep dark roasty malts (but not quite burnt); light hints of chocolate and a definite presence of that sweet oaky vanilla that is so present in the smell; definite presence of bourbony alcohol; a slight presence of smoke and as it warms, there is a slight cola/cough syrupy sweetness.

Mouthfeel: Medium body, soft smooth carbonation that almost feels a little flat; slight stickiness left on the roof of the mouth; belly is left quite warm.

Drinkability: A little hot and overly sweet as it warms and it feels like if I had too much it would turn my stomach; I'm curious to see how this would do with some age on it to mellow out the alcohol.

Photo of SykDoc
3.75/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a bomber into a snifter. It pours a deep brown that appears black and opaque when held to the light. A 1/4 inch mocha colored light head forms and reduces to almost no lacing. Carbonation is visible.

The aroma includes healthy notes of oak and vanilla. Some dark chocolate and coffee definitely lurk. There is sorty of a raisiny component as well.

The taste seemed a bit weak to me. The oak is definitely present, as is a nice level of dark chocolate afterwards and trailing with some coffee bitterness. It just seemed like it could have been more.

The mouthfeel was also similar to the taste. The level of carbonation initially seems reasonable but then seems to fall off and there isn't enough body to hold the palate. It finishes kind of bland.

Overall, this is a drinkable beer partially because it is not so overwhelmingly intense. However, it seems like it could have delivered a bit more punch, but still good.

Photo of jzeilinger
3.75/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A - Pours and opaque oil black with a one fingered toffee colored head, and thick lacing that sticks to the sides of the glass.

S - Dark chocolate, oak, roasted malt, some vanilla, and a little bit of booziness.

T - Alcohol effervesence is quite strong with this beer, it was the first thing I noticed. After I got past the alcohol presence, is strong dark roasted malt, traces of vanilla, bold oak flavor, and dark roasted chocolate bitterness that leaves a lingering coating in the mouth. There's a little bit of a caramel rum like flavor in there as well.

M - Medium bodied, boozy effervesence, slight prickles on the tongue, and lip smacking sticky on the lips.

O - Wish I would have aged this 2011 bottle instead of cracking it open tonight. Something like this would be amazing if it were aged in a bourbon or red wine barrel. The alcohol presence is a little too strong.

Photo of Arbitrator
3.75/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Chilled bomber into a glass, courtesy of Hexxed. Thanks buddy!

A: Pours an absolute pitch black with amber highlights at the edges. Has half an inch of cream-colored head that recedes quickly into a collar and light film on the brew. No lacing to speak of.

S: Tons of oak, followed by smoke, tobacco, roasted malt, and dark chocolate. The heavy emphasis on wood is kind of off-putting. There's a small caramel-floral note; did these barrels contain bourbon?

T: Follows the nose and adds some things. There's initially a strong oak and vanilla flavor with some smoke and tobacco lurking just behind. Roasted malt and chocolate make appearances toward the end of the swig. Nice flavor. I actually thought it tasted more like a stout than anything else.

M: Medium bodied, with carbonation on the lower side that gives it the body a pretty creamy feel.

D: This is a solid beer. Nothing to go apeshit over, but I certainly enjoy it. I'd have it again and might be in a mood to track down a second bottle sometime.

Photo of AgentMunky
3.75/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 ounce bottle into an Ommegang glass. Vintage 2011. From notes. Reviewed 25 June 2011.

A: Dark black, with ruby glints in the light. Very little head.

S: Lots of whisky -- bourbon, oak, vanilla, alcohol. Not very strong, but what's present is very good.

T: Nice, but subdued. The maintaste is sort of vanilla-sweet. The aftertaste is slightly drying and very bourbon-y. Sweet all around and not much else. Considering the name, disappointing.

M: Full, rich, creamy, and scrumptious. Little carbonation.

O: A big, punchy-sweet imperial milk stout. Decent, but I prefer other imperial stouts. Not recommended, but it's not unfortunate. You might buy one just to keep the bottle/label.

Photo of seeswo
3.75/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours black with a small whitish head. Big roast and oak on the nose. The taste is milky roastiness with a big oak punch. Maybe a hint of coffee and chocolate. The oak is a bit harsh - seems like it needs some time. The mouth is silky and creamy. Very nice. Overall, this beer has a lot of potential, but is overwhelmed with oak. Maybe some time will chill it out.

Photo of Gambrinus1184
3.75/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22-ounce bottle into a Saranac pint glass.

A: Dark brownish black with a fluffy, two-finger head of tan foam that left a decent amount of clingy lace.

S: Sweet cream, vanilla, damp wood, and herbal, earthy hops fill the swirl of boozy aromatics.

T: Lotsa charred malts and lactic sweetness to start, with hints of anise and cocoa packed with marshmallow. Oaky, woody flavor jars the palate a bit, but it manages to stay pretty pleasant, albeit a tad out of whack. The finish is a jumble of earthy licorice, hops, lactose and licorice.

M: Full-bodied, robust and milky fell with some definite alcohol burn.

O: A really rich and complex American stout, but not the best blend of sweet and oak-aged booziness I was hoping for. At 10% ABV its still a little too harsh for immediate consumption, but further aging might bring the flavors together a little bit more nicely.

Photo of ArrogantB
3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

On tap at Fresh Craft. Dark black, almost no head whatsoever. Aroma is slightly boozy, touch of barrel. Flavor is good, vanilla, booze, barrel and stout. The body is a little thin. Overall, not bad, I'd like a four pack please.

A:4
S:3.75
T:3.75
M:3.5
O:3.75

Photo of jwal
3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

A little too much bourbon flavor for my taste

Photo of JHogan02
3.74/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3

Was as it is, a dark stout.Many friends said it was "too bourbany", yeah..right.Drink some Real American Bourbon and get on with your life! Nuff said!

Photo of dar482
3.74/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

The beer pours out in dark brown and in the glass in a black color with a huge off white brownish head.

The aroma has a beautiful rich toasty/roasty marshmallow, roasted almond, cocoa powder, a mix of a spicy and whole wheat breadiness, and nuttiness.

The flavor hits up front with richly toasted malt, cocoa, a creamy milk and melted ice cream flavor. The beer finish with vanilla, almond, and caramel sweetness. Some oak and stiff bitterness on the back. Some alcohol as well.

In general, the beer is lacking in flavor. It definitely does not remind one of a bourbon barrel aged stout.

Photo of dmamiano
3.74/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

poured a very dark, almost black with a small head and nice lacing observed.
smelled of oak, vanilla and alcohol. Hints of bourbon came to mind as took a good wiff!
taste was of oak, bourbon, vanilla and malts.
warming the insides as i quaffed this one.
very unusual beer...good.

Photo of Brez07
3.74/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle poured into a snifter

A: Dark, dark brown pour that starts with a small off white head. Quickly disappears to a ring around the glass

S: Starts with vanilla, but is quickly met with some fruit (cherry, raisin). Rounds out with some oak, caramel and a touch of smoke

T: Definitely a let down from the nose. Mostly one dimensional with smoke, although more of a roasted smoke. There are traces of vanilla, bourbon and oak, but they don't last long. Has a pretty off putting aftertaste

M: Full bodied. Light carbonation, which seems appropriate for the style. Leaves an aftertaste of alcohol and metal?

D: Smells so much better then it tastes. Alcohol is mostly hidden, but it's still a slow sipper. I've got a bomber cellared in hopes that some age cleans up the taste. In it's current form, I'd pass

Photo of inlimbo77
3.74/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

12oz, 2013
Riedel tulip

A: Pours a deep brown. Not as dark as I was expecting. Didn't get much head. Thin layer of light tan. Some lacing bits.

S: Some burnt sugar. Vanilla. It's not a bourbon forward as I was expecting.

T: Actually sharp almost tart start, either from booze or infection. i was hoping for more roast and rich creamy malts. Thinner and more carbed than expected. Finish has a good blast of booze, as it rolls down the throat.

M: Full bodied.

Photo of socon67
3.73/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Black pour with a tan foam that settled fast.

S - Smells slightly boozy, but had notes of raisins and dark malt.

T - Roasted malt flavor that has some flavor of dark fruit before ending with a slight burn.

M - The whiskey-like burn made this a one and done beer, but it is balanced well considering the compexity.

O - A stout that the barrel aged bourbon lovers will love. Not my personal favorite but it is tasty and worth a try.

Photo of Infamous7100
3.73/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Pours a mahogany and is slightly transparent. A long lasting tan head with some decent lacing.
S: a tad more muted than I expected. Aromas of oak, bourbon and chocolate seem to dominate the profile. Less malt than I expected..semi complex.
T: represents a bit better than the aroma. Sweet bourbon notes accompanied by oak along with pleasant malt notes. A slight dark chocolate bitterness.
M: extremely creamy, low to medium carbonation and not as filling as you would think. Finishes slightly dry and bitter.
O: a very good brew, but expected some more complexity. Perhaps the bourbon should come through more, but what it lacks in bourbon is made up in balance of malt, dark chocolate and booze. Pick some up.

Photo of CRJMellor
3.73/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a deep, depp maroon, almost black. Decent tan head that settles rapidly leaving bits of lace up and down the glass.
Aroma is scotch, sasparilla, cream soda and almost metallic soda kind of scent.
Flavor has a heavy hint of scotch, cream soda notes and minor hint of chocolate. Faint hint of bitterness at very end.
Mouthfeel is full yet thin, hate to refer to it again but very close to soda. Alcoholic kick at back end dominates the palate.
Drinkability is only slightly better than average mainly do to soda-like tendencies and pretty heavy alcohol.

Photo of Bills453
3.73/5  rDev -7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 4

Appearance - dark dark brown to black. Nice mocha 2 finger head. Nice and frothy.

Smell - smells like a sweet dessert almost. I think this one is most certainly a dessert stout.

Taste - good. I like it. Can really taste the barrel.

Mouthfeel - nice and smooth

Overall - very nice stout offering, plus DRAGON,

Photo of amandebates
3.73/5  rDev -7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Very clear. Deep brown which glows ruby red when held up to light. It came out with a very thin layer of creamy off-white head. As I drank there was minimal lacing on the glass.

Smell: Sweet, caramel malt. The smell wasn't present enough for my personal preference when I first got it, but I could smell it a little more as it warmed up.

Taste: Caramel, oak, clean bitterness followed by a delicious sweet whipped cream finish that lingers after swallowing. Great balanced flavor.

Mouthfeel: Delicate, tingling carbonation. A little bit of a thicker, syrupy feel, but nothing too sticky.

D: Very drinkable for a slightly syrupy stout. I think I could drink a few of these in a night and enjoy every bit.

This is a more simple, and very well executed stout flavor profile. No complex malt flavor, but everything that is there is very well balanced. I've had this a few times and it's one I look forward to having again. I'd recommend it.

Photo of germaniac
3.73/5  rDev -7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours burnt brown, lots of creamy tannish head. Looks something like a stout.

Smell has a great roastiness, some coffee and chocolate malts mingling with dark fruit aromas.

Starts thick and roasty, mellowing out somewhat into creamy tartness. Earthy wood notes and almost sourness towards the finish. Probably has something to do with the barrel aging thing.

A very interesting brew, a nice change from the hoppy strong ales that I'm used to. Not something I'd drink every day, though. Recieved via trade with jpm30.

Photo of cvm4
3.73/5  rDev -7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Looks like a stout, black like a stout, brown head like a stout that dissipates quickly.

S - A slight bourbon smell. Dark Chocolate & molasses.

T - Sweet bourbon, malty, licorice, brown sugar and subtle coffee notes.

M - Medium bodied, somewhat syrupy.

O - It's not bad... The bourbon notes could be more pronounced & the sweet taste isn't to my liking.

Photo of Foxman
3.73/5  rDev -7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

It pours an edgy dark coffee brown grading to mahogany and deep amber. A finger of khaki head wisps away to a thin, foggy froth.
Sparse lacing flits along the inside of the glass.

The aroma delivers a poignant but settled lactic bite to match roasted malt, blueberry, and a doughy yeastiness. A rounded smoked vanilla drift mellows a draft of alcohol.

Upon tasting, a lactic bite lay across a slight roasted malt char, and hints of dried fruit and caramel mingle with creamy vanilla. Yet again the milky nip leads the way, this time ahead of a note of yeast and thin but earthy smoke. Alcohol and lactic acid tread the middle ground. A brief measure of residual malt toastiness helps a mildly bitter finish along with more but shallower sourness. The flavor sits on undelivered potential, being a bit disjointed and restless.

Medium bodied, it's creamy and slick on the palate, with an understated dry effect.

It's no one trick pony, but the lactic sourness is prominent to the point of distraction. The shame is, underneath lies a pretty decent malt profile. Strangely, the muscular ABV helps mitigate the sourness in the end, and it drinks at least better than average. So maybe it's not my cup of tea, or milk for that matter, but hey, I can say I could have done worse.

Dragon's Milk from New Holland Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 4,604 ratings.