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Dragon's Milk - New Holland Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
90
outstanding

4,420 Ratings
THE BROS
86
very good

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Ratings: 4,420
Reviews: 1,267
rAvg: 4
pDev: 13.5%
Wants: 251
Gots: 1,015 | FT: 41
Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  10.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: beernut7 on 08-12-2002

A barrel aged Imperial Stout with roasty malt character intermingled with deep vanilla tones, all dancing in an oak bath.

2014 Bottles are 11% ABV
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Ratings: 4,420 | Reviews: 1,267
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3.57/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pitch black. Seemingly no lacing. Not much to be said here.

Smell: Coffee, smokey, and chocolatey.

Taste/feel: Interesting. Very interesting. It has a lot of chocolate and coffee like you'd expect in a stout, but there's some smoke in there. Another surprise was the feel and carbonation. The feel is rather light, and the carbonation is medium/high. The alcohol is easily detected in this one as well. Stouts and porters and the like aren't my favorite styles, but I don't hate this one.

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4.25/5  rDev +6.3%

Photo of TKEbeerman
3.62/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2010: This is a Stout, 10%ABV aged in oak barrels. (it says stout on the bottle damn-it!)

A: Poured into my sniftner, this beer pours a black body with a lighter then normal stout tan head. Nothing too impressive as the head dissipates quickly.

S: The aroma is that of chocolate covered vanilla beans. The boozy background and lack of complexity grounds this brew to a 4.0, but I love how much the vanilla shines.

T: The taste consists of light notes of chocolate, heavy spice notes that you would find in a Belgium quad, vanilla (but not the smoothness of vanilla itself), and at cold it tends to be a little boozy. Let this one warm up before drinking, it mellows out the boozyness and makes this stout much more enjoyable.

MF/D: Mouthfeel wise, this beer is lacking fullness that I've come to enjoy, and because New Holland could have hid the ABV a tad bit better, the drinkability will suffer too.

Overall, this beer is a treat. Maybe it is a new style....black ASA? This brew has qualities of both a stout and an ASA in one, but with a name like Dragon's Milk...why not make a milk stout?

Thanks strikertown for being a generous trading partner.

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4.5/5  rDev +12.5%

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4.25/5  rDev +6.3%

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4.14/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

poured 12oz bottle into chalice. 2012 vintage.

A - Black with a lighter off white semi fluffy head. Fair retention and spotty lacing.

S - The nose is bourbon (held up well with age) with hints of roasted malt and chocolate, slight vanilla, marshmallow and caramel.

T - The bourbon is quite pleasant after 2 years. Roasted malt and chocolate overtones with sweet caramel and marshmallow.

M - Very light in carbonation with a medium mouthfeel.

O - This beer has held up very well and I prefer it with some age on it. I usually like BB stouts fresh, but this was a bit harsh when fresh. The age mellowed it out, but kept the bourbon notes. Quite good with 2 years on it.

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3.5/5  rDev -12.5%

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3.67/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bottle. Vintage dated 2011. Reviewed 6/5/11

P: Deep black, onyx in color. Not much of a head at all. Just a tiny amount of tan covering that settles to scant vespers.

A: Sweet chocolate and ripe plums. Vanilla bean. Touch of roasted barley. Tons of espresso pop-up when I inhale deeply. Not much evidence of the barrel on the nose.

T: Vanilla sweetness at first, and leads into a salty, briny flavor. Good dose of roasted coffee. Toasted oak. Dark chocolate tones develop as it warms, and a malty creaminess fills the mouth. Somewhat cola-like in mouthfeel and flavor on the finish.

Doesn't drink like a barrel aged stout, and that's kind of a bad thing. A good beer, but either needs a better base beer or more time in the barrel.

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3.75/5  rDev -6.3%

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3.75/5  rDev -6.3%

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4.33/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Goliath
3.5/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a dark brown, almost black with amber hues around the edges. Ther eis a thin light tan head that develops on top of this brew with poor retention and no lacing.

Aroma is weak, but notes of chocolate, caramel, and vanilla are present.

Taste is alright, some chocolate notes but not mluch else.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied and lightly carbonated.

Drinkability is moderate. Easy to consume, but flavor is lacking.

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4.5/5  rDev +12.5%

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3.5/5  rDev -12.5%

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3.75/5  rDev -6.3%

Photo of little_star
4.66/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

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4.17/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A- pitch black with faint ruby highlights at the bottom of my tulip. instead of a head of foam there is merely a loose layer of beige spit bubbles floating atop the brew with some tiny specks of lace. the etchings in the glass seem to keep it goin, but i'm still a bit confused by the look of this beer. cool bottle though, mine is silk screened with only white ink and quite different from the BA pic with the dragon silhouette over a diagonal worm's eye view of the oak barrel.

S- vanilla and oak, chocolate ice cream, burnt caramel, marshmallow, weak coffee, dark chocolate, black licorice, dark mashed up fruits and alcohol esters. smells like a weakened stout. becomes smokier and maltier as it warms and the overall aroma gets sweeter, as does the alcohol that begins to burn my nose hairs.

T-woodsy sweet with a prominent natural vanilla flavor and enough roastiness to balance things out. molasses, brown sugar, strong oak character, black-n-milds, and earthy hops. mineral water/stone, some raisin, deeply toasted malt, licorice, dark caramel, dulce de leche, smoky charcoal, toffee, and acorns of all things. heh. a very nice thing about this beer is that i can taste the oak so strongly, the flavor of freshly dried wood is embedded into my tongue. i would assume the barrels were charred or even previously used to age bourbon, although the presence of bourbon flavor is questionable since most of the bourbon's flavor comes from the wood itself. finishes ever so woodsy with oak and cocoa and pleasantly earthy british hops. alcohol taste becomes aggressive as it nears room temp. very complex and flavorful, but also very unique as it seems to cross a strong ale with a porter.

MF- despite the origin of the term 'dragon's milk' the name is definitely fitting in the MF context, as the low carbonation and low viscosity (despite its darkness) give it the feeling of lightly carbonated 2% milk. literally. powdery and slightly mentholated, even as it warms it has a coating and cooling effect that feels nice with the end-of-summer breeze blowing in my window.

D- i'm having a hard time figuring out exactly what is goin on with this brew. so dark but with a surprisingly light body (or medium, i should say). i could assume that alot of the color comes from the char inside the oak barrels, but i can't be certain and i can't find any hints online to determine a conclusion. all other things aside, it leaves me wanting more. its smooth character and laid back flavor leave the door wide open.

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3.75/5  rDev -6.3%

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3.75/5  rDev -6.3%

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2.5/5  rDev -37.5%

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4.25/5  rDev +6.3%

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4/5  rDev 0%

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4.36/5  rDev +9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Nice dark pour. Sticky carbonation that peppered the glass from top to bottom. Very dark mahogany brown in color. The creamy head of tan colored foam slowly receded from the rim of the glass and left a delicate lacing that looked like a pork fat netting (but didn’t taste much like it).

The aroma is complex. Charred oak along with a sharp roasted nuttiness. Some stale cardboard/pencil shaving like notes, burnt apple wood and a fruity alcohol. The taste is quite drinkable for a strong beer. Oaky and complex, roasted and full of all things good. Medium bodied that finishes with a warm and rich alcohol bite. Overall, very smooth, clean. The oak barrel aging really compliments the rest of the beer.

Excellent.

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4/5  rDev 0%

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Dragon's Milk from New Holland Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 4,420 ratings.