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Dragon's Milk | New Holland Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
89
very good
1,417 Reviews
BEER STATS
Reviews:
1,417
Ratings:
5,358
Avg:
3.97
pDev:
25.69%
 
 
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Dragon's MilkDragon's Milk
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company
Michigan, United States | website

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.00%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
A barrel aged Imperial Stout with roasty malt character intermingled with deep vanilla tones, all dancing in an oak bath.

2014 Bottles are 11% ABV

Added by beernut7 on 08-12-2002

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Photo of hermit990
3.84/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

12 oz. bottle poured into a goblet. 2014 Vintage, date code on bottle translates to 2/25/2014. Review Date: 4/19/2014.

Appearance: Pours black/muddy brown, opaque. Half-finger's worth of a tan head that quickly dissipates into a thin layer.

Smell: Bourbon character hits first on the nose, some oak, vanilla, slight coconut aromas follow. Finishes with roasted malt, dark chocolate.

Taste: Bourbon barrel flavors hit first, matching the nose with the bourbon, oak and vanilla character. Afterwards, the malt starts to take over, lots of roasted grain and chocolate on the tongue with a very slight bitterness. Aftertaste has some coffee flavors, before the bourbon barrel emerges through again. Alcohol and dark fruits become more present as the beer warms, along with an earthy spiciness.

Mouthfeel: Body feels thin for the style. Slight alcohol heat is present. Finishes slightly dry.

Overall: This is an enjoyable, decent barrel aged offering. In my experience, it has been easy to find, but can be a bit pricy at $16 per 4 pack in my area. It is a nice option if you're in the mood for a bourbon barrel aged beer, but there are others that I would choose first.

Overall:

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Photo of OneDropSoup
3.84/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a bomber, looks to be pretty darn dark, if not totally black, with a bubbly tan head, about half a finger. Head dissipates quickly, almost no lacing.

Smell's rich: I get caramel, dark Christmas-y fruits (raisin, a little fig, a little black cherry), oak booze smell. None of the coffee or chocolate stuff so prevalent in stouts (which I guess is because it's not a stout, but look at this thing & try not to expect those smells).

Flavor's very similar to the smell, with little bitterness. The alcohol picks up momentum, & the wood-y flavors are emphasized a little more. Others have said the barrel flavor is overpowering, whereas I find this to be one of the more tempered & even barrel-aged beers I've had. I love the intense bourbon barrel of others, but this is very well-integrated.

Mouthfeel's on the creamy side, with a tingle from the slightly high ABV. This one does not hide its alcohol.

I found one easy enough to drink, but don't know if I need to go back for a second. I've had it on tap before (didn't review it though), & would be more apt to have a second or third of a draft.

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Photo of JamesMN
3.84/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Opaque black with a hint of brown around the edges. Very thin light brown head that is now almost nonexistent.

Aroma: Get vanilla right away. Underneath that there are roasty tones, oak, alcohol, and just a dab of dark fruit.

Taste: This one definitely has a pleasant oaky quality to it. Starts like a regular Imperial Stout with dark roasted malts and a rounded flavor. About halfway through you start to get the vanilla and oak which only builds from there. The end adds a moderate alcohol note that stays through the finish. Leaves a bitter chocolate and slightly hoppy flavor on the palate as well as some dark fruit and an alcohol bite. Real nice warmth in the back of the throat long after drinking. The 10% ABV is by no means hidden but it seems to work well that way. The only drawback is that it's not quite as robust as one would expect it to be.

Mouthfeel: Medium in body which is a little light for the style. A little more carbonation than I had anticipated but fairly easy to drink.

Final Thoughts: A little let down because of the slightly thin body. However, it hits all the right notes in terms of flavor and doesn't disappoint when it comes to the oak aged quality. Would I drink it again? It would not be my go-to Imperial Stout but I would give it a try on-tap.

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Photo of sweemzander
3.84/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz. bottle poured into a snifter. No bottled date.

(A)- Pours a dark black color with just the tiniest bit of dark brown highlights. Absolutely no head formation even after a rather vigorous pour.

(S)- A general roastedness of malts. A bit of raisin & molasses-like coffee. Finishes with a touch of vanilla & brown sugar sweetness.

(T)- Basically, just like the smell foretold, only with an obviously present warmth. Rather sweet.

(M)- A good carbonation level for the style. A relatively good balance to it. Just has a small level of boozy warmth going down.

(D)- Definitely New Holland's best offering and perhaps their most popular too. Still a little sweet like most of New Hollands offerings, but not overly so. I wouldnt mind having this once and awhile.

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Photo of DoubleJ
3.84/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

After 4 hours of not having electricity in my house, it has returned. And my beer is still chilled. On to the beer:

Black, as expected, with ruby red hues when shined through a light. The head fizzes away, which is dissapointing. But hey, it smells nice. Pleasnat. Mellow. There is some vanilla, cream, and a light touch of oak. Some coffee too.

It tastes sweet and milky at first taste. Milk and cream for certain. A pinch of booze heats things up. There's the oak, and it begins to take hold. It starts to impart a fruity flavor with wood. Medium bodied with light carbonation, not quite as "high gravity" as I would expect. Actually, it thickens up some as it warms. Overall, the flavors meld better as it warms.

I was unsure about this beer at first, then things started to get better and better as it warmed. A nice beer to try if you have a sweet tooth and/or are an oak lover.

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Photo of Vancer
3.84/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Looked forward to this lil’ bad boy, the pour just got the juices flowing. A dark brown, almost black brew with a frothy tan head – head died to fast, but it did leave nice lace rings.

A malty wheat aroma, with hints of smoke. A dry and crisp pull noted caramel, chocolate and notes of a malty sour ale. Hints of burnt toast throughout the bottle.

A small alcohol burn during the bottle – this brew could have used another 6 months of aging.

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Photo of mdfb79
3.84/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 oz. Bottle into a pint glass.

a - A very dark black, letting in absolutely no light. It has a small amount of carbonation, and almost no head whatsoever. The smallest ring of white head appears around the edges.

s - Smells of roasted malts, vanilla, oak, also a little chocolate and coffee.

t - The taste that first jumps out at me is again the roasted malts, followed by the vanilla. It has a milky taste to it and also small hints of chocolate and bourbon, though nothing overpowering.

m - Moderate carbonation and a full body, it's actually kind of smooth.

d - Overall I think it's a decent strong ale, but nothing to write home about. It does have a creamy, smooth milk/vanilla flavor, but the alcohol comes through in it.

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Photo of rodlavers
3.84/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.75

Growler pour for Super Bowl. No head, as dark as you can get before it's black, with hints of red, very slight hints.

Smell is decent, not as intense as other bba beers: weakened vanilla, molasses, etc., some bourbon.

Taste is similar but more complex: dark fruit, some chocolate and coffe in there. Vanilla molasses and light bourbon notes are prominent.

Feel is nice and smooth, extremely light carbonation, a sense of earthiness to it. Enjoyable beer but not in the same league as other bba stouts, re: BCBS, BN, KBS. But don't let that sway you, go ahead and try it it's good. Cheers.

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Photo of BrewCrew2010
3.84/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: Pours a dark brown body with an extremely small tan head that's fast receding.

S: Strong aroma of vanilla from the oak, booze, roasted malts, milk chocolate, & a hint of dark fruits.

T: Initial flavor is a strong alcohol bite followed by milk chocolate, vanilla, & woody notes. There is a bit of a creamy flavor to it as well roasted malts that play out nicely against the burn of the high ABV.

D: Medium body, light carbonation, creamy and pillowy texture.

M: I have to say, I think the burn from the ABV in the flavor plays against this beer for me. If the mouthfeel was a bit heavier, I think it could help, but this would be a 1-2 beers most. Really enjoyed it, but the burn can be a bit much.

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Photo of jrallen34
3.84/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I drank this from a 12oz bottle into an Orval glass.

The beer pours a dark brown with a light tan head that rises only about half a finger and is gone pretty quickly. The lacing is light.

The aroma is medium and very nice. Its very malty lots of sweet chocolate with a nice smooth oak finish.

The taste is a little to sweet and watery for my tasty. The sweetness isn't balanced with much oak or bourbon so its a little offputting.

Overall, good start bad finish. Has some potential.

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Photo of TheSixthRing
3.83/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Appearance - Pours jet black with cola brown edging where light can penetrate. Poured aggressively, it produced a cocoa powder colored finger with head with good retention. Nice, fine and silky lacing with great stick.

Smell - Alcohol astringent forward aroma, with lesser notes of vanilla and chocolate.

Taste - Starts with strong notes of vanilla and alcohol. Strong alcohol heat throughout. Mid-taste a chalky chocolate flavor makes it's debut. Aftertaste hits on mocha coffee and faint alcohol heat.

Mouthfeel - Medium bodied, with moderate carbonation. Smooth and creamy to start, but the alcohol gives a thinning, dry finish.

Overall - This is a good stout, but comes through with a lot of heat. I imagine this being a beer hard alcohol drinkers might like; I myself find it a bit too aggressive and transparent. Decent complexity that's overwhelmed by the near numbing heat. That said, there's just enough redeeming stout character that I'd drink it again.

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Photo of SpdKilz
3.83/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

First and foremost, a huge thanks to Kevin (kzoobrew) for hooking me up with this beer. Cheers friend!

Appearance - Pours a dark chocolate color into my Bell's Tulip. Slight light can be seen through the beer. Less than a finger of tan head is achieved with a vigorous pour, which dissipates relatively fast leaving thin lacing.

Smell - I will admit, my nose is a hint stuffed up tonight, however, despite this I feel there is not a whole lot going on in the nose. I can smell the vanilla and oak, slight chocolate, dark fruits such as plum, and caramel/toasted malt.

Taste - An odd bitterness is at the forefront (a bitterness I was not expecting from the nose). There is heavy oak, bourbon, and vanilla. The more I drink this and the beer warms up, the more prominent the vanilla becomes. There is only a slight chocolate characteristic here - the overall sweetness is from the vanilla and molasses flavors. A bit cloying in the sweetness department.

Mouthfeel - Medium to light bodied, a bit watery to be honest. Decent carbonation.

Drinkability - For the style and ABV, relatively so. I don't get any alcohol flavor nor burn. I will admit, however, that the New Holland Night Tripper Kevin sent me was a hell of a lot better than this. I would be interested to see how this beer would do in the cellar for a year or two. I think it would do quite a bit for it and will have to try this again in the future after a few years of age on it.

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Photo of claspada
3.83/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Aromas of dark roasted espresso beans with ample amounts of dark baker's chocolate. AS it warms you get slight alcohol, oak and light vanilla.

The taste starts off with milk chocolate cocoa powder and some oakiness that fades into a bitter dark chocolate boozy finish. One again as you let this warm to the appropriate temperature you get lesser notes of coconut and vanilla and a more prevalent sweetness/fruitness that is undetectable initially.

Mouthfeel was full with the oak aging helping to dry out the complex high ABV, maltiness and overall flavor profile. Overall I really enjoyed this beer, not as good as I first remember when I sampled it on draft at the original Savor, but still good non-the-less.

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Photo of YonderWanderer
3.83/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a deep, dark brown, bordering on black. Hints of amber and ruby are present if you hold it up to the light. No head to speak of, and little lacing is left behind.

S: Not much - some wood is definitely present, some caramel, a hint of vanilla.

T: The oak is one of the leading flavors, imparting it's wonderful taste upon this beer. A nice solid caramel malt is in the center, with some hints of vanilla, and even a bit of coffee. Some brandy is definitely there from the aging. No real hops are noticeable. Very tasty.

M: Smooth and a little viscous, as one might expect. Decent carbonation.

D: This is a pretty good strong ale - if I could get it up here, I would likely buy it from time to time. Definitely worth a try though.

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Photo of OldeSchool
3.83/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A: Pours almost black with a small head that dissipates quickly. Looks pretty much like a bourbon barrel stout should look.

S: Chocolate, some coffee, maybe a bit of vanilla. Oddly, not much in the way of bourbon.

T: Just a bit of bourbon with more coffee and chocolate. Drinks very smoothly, even at 11 percent ABV.

M: Very good, but not great; smooth and silky with some alcohol sting late.

O: Very good representation of the style. It's less "bourbony" than many of the other beers in this genre, but drinking Dragon's Milk is a good experience overall.

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Photo of avalon07
3.83/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: When I poured this beer from a bottle to a pint glass, it had a black color and a thick consistency. There was a quarter inch head and some good lacing.

S: Not exactly an overpowering aroma, but solid. Strong presence of malt, chocolate and a bit of hops.

T: When you drink this, you get a big shot of coffee, then chocolate, then roasted malt. There's also some caramel in there as well. Very tasty and pretty complex.

M: This had a fair amount of carbonation and a smooth finish. It's not quite a full-bodied beer, but not a medium-bodied, either. Something in between.

D: This is a drinkable beer. It's a little on the heavy side, but it has a solid taste and a goes down easy.

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Photo of tobelerone
3.83/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Wasn’t expecting too much from this beer and it was a pleasant surprise that I enjoyed it as much as I did. Pours like a good imperial stout should, jet black with a frothy brown head. Head dissipated fairly quickly, some patchy lacing remained on the glass.

Nose is chocolaty will prominent oak, maybe some subtle dark fruit, vanilla, coffee. Decently roasty. In the tasting the oak is there but not as prominent as in the nose, which I felt was a good thing; a little oak barrel is nice but I don’t always want to drink something that tastes like a wood shop. Again there was plentiful chocolate, a hint of vanilla and coffee, some raisins and figs, and a very mild touch of tartness that was a little odd. Thankfully it wasn’t particularly noticeable.

Body is medium-full, with moderate carbonation and a somewhat sticky overall mouthfeel. This is a pretty good beer, certainly not upper echelon, but not bad at all either. Lacks the fullness, heft, and complexity of the best of the style but also the pricetag of most. Worth a shot at least.

edit: more than two years and over a thousand beers later I find much of what I mentioned above still true, but I'd amend things by saying the body is firmly medium and isn't that sticky at all. Carbonation is medium but on the high side for style. Ultimately the feel is a little unsatisfying.

I'll give this beer credit for nicely counterbalancing sweet and roasty elements, but at this point I'm looking for more barrel out of my BA beers and more complexity out of this style in general.

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Photo of fauxpunker
3.83/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours black with a thin, quickly disappearing, tan head. Opaque, but not motor oil thick like I was expecting.
S: Can definitely smell oak and vanilla. Some chocolate as well. All malt.
T: Sweetness hits up front along with a roasted coffee undertone. The vanilla not also makes an appearance. Alcohol pops up on the end giving it a somewhat sour finish.
M: Full, but not chewy. Carbonation seemed a bit low. Despite the alcohol in the taste, it doesn't really burn. It definitely warmed me up.
O: All the pieces are there but they don't quite come together like I'd hoped. The ABV isn't hidden as well as in others I've had. Not bad by any stretch. Great way to warm up on a cold day.

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Photo of joepais
3.83/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle poured into a sniffer produced a fingers worth of tan head that turned to lace on top of a black body

Aromas of chocolate and coffee filled my nose a nice oak woodiness as well

Taste the same as the nose but with slight alcohol warmth

Full bodied brew not much carbonation

I had this before I flew out of VA and I am glad I did it turned into a long flight. I finished the bomber by myself and was looking for more it's a good brew

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Photo of youngleo
3.83/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured a dark brown in color. Head was offwhite in color. Or you could probably say tan in color. Had a nice two fingered head that didnt hang around very long. Left some lacing, but not alot. Smelled of alcohol, caramel, and malt. Tasted sweet like caramel. Also notes of cream, oak, and alcohol. Felt good in the mouth. I thought the carbonation was right. With the higher ABV, you couldnt make this a session beer. But it sure tasted good on a cool October evening.

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Photo of CoolJosh
3.83/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

2006 courtesy of Nittanybeerfan. Dan, you are the man!!!

Poured from a 22 oz. Pours a nice chocolate hazy brown which shows some translucency around the edges. It yields a nice creamy tan head which laces the glass quite nicely.

Nice sweet chocolate and roasted caramel scents. Really creamy chocolate is very pleasing. Some vanilla and light oak reside here as well. Nicely done, but it is too subdued.

The taste mirrors the scent. The flavors are full blown and come out nicely, but they lack that over the top robustness found in some of the other Old Ales that I have had. Fairly creamy, with a nice roasted caramel flavor on the tail of the glass. Really good beer. The mouthfeel is a little bit thin, but that is overlooked in the high drinkability.

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Photo of marchoftheclouds
3.83/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance - Can't see through it ... that's promising! Not much head,but at 10% ABV, that's to be be expected.

Smell - I mostly smell a raisiny, sweet smell ... also very promising.

Taste - there is a slight bite of something ... possibly a slight uncharacteristic flavor that doesn't seem like it belongs. Maybe a hop / malt disagreement?

Mouthfeel - ever so slightly a bit too carbonated for a perfect beer, in my opinion, but a good mouthfeel in general.

Overall - not bad, but my expectations were higher by previous info I was given. Wouldn't turn it down, but wouldn't make it a go to beer either.

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Photo of Bitterbill
3.83/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I got this in a trade with joe1510. Thanks Joe!

This pours a very dark brown with reddish highlights and about a 1 finger head of tannis foam. Average head retention but it does have some nice lacing.

The smell is dominated by caramel malt but I also get some roasted malt, vanilla, and wood. Pretty nice nose.

The taste has notes of caramel and roasted malt, toffee, a real oaky flavour, and a bit of dark fruit but mostly caramel and toffee and it's hitting my tastebuds nicely. Oh, now I'm noticing a bit of vanilla; it's stronger in the smell than in the taste.

The body is thinner than I expected though it is quite creamy, carbonation is on the low side, and the abv is hidden pretty well.

Because of it's smoothness, I find it quite drinkable.. a very nice American Strong Ale indeed. I'd drink it again.

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Photo of thryn
3.83/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Medium-dark brown, with a coppery tint. No real head, but a decent ring of tan fuzz.

Tons of vanilla in the nose. A hint of smoke, also, and a lot of toffee and caramel notes from the malt. Some booze, but not to unpleasant levels. Oaky, but smooth.

Taste is vanilla, oak, toffee, a hint of chocolate, a hint of peat and a noticeable but not hot alcohol presence. I bought this in July, so it's at least 5 months old. It's very nice. Really smooth. This is a barrel-aged beer where the barrel is prominent, and I'm generally a fan of forward oak, so I've got no complaints about that.

Feel is a bit thin, and it's a little flat, even for the style.

Decently drinkable for the style. Suffers a little from the flat feel, but it's delicious enough that I can overlook that.

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Photo of jjanega08
3.83/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2 | overall: 4

A= Pours a black color with brown highlights around the edges. A nice perfect one and a half finger head rises from it that's a tan color and has great retention and some spotty lacing.
S= I smell a lot of coffee in it with touches of chocolate. There's a definite vanilla and oak odor coming from it as well.
T= Very oaky. Vanilla comes through with the coffee and chocolate malts. The finish tastes just like wood. This is the woodiest beer that I have every had. That's pretty much how to describe it. There's a slight amount of hop bitterness that comes through as well but it's very covered by the oak taste.
M= Not really happy with this actually. This beer seems a little thin and I wish it was drier.
D= Decent. Like I mentioned this is a very woody beer. Tastes great but the mouthfeel is subpar. I'll prolly look for it again sometime to age and see how it progresses. Not a bad beer.

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Dragon's Milk from New Holland Brewing Company
89 out of 100 based on 1,417 ratings.