Dragon's Milk - New Holland Brewing Company

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very good

4,181 Ratings
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Ratings: 4,181
Reviews: 1,207
rAvg: 3.99
pDev: 13.78%
Wants: 220
Gots: 824 | FT: 35
Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  10.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
A barrel aged Imperial Stout with roasty malt character intermingled with deep vanilla tones, all dancing in an oak bath.

2014 Bottles are 11% ABV

(Beer added by: beernut7 on 08-12-2002)
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3.5/5  rDev -12.3%

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4.25/5  rDev +6.5%

Photo of rapidsequence
3.43/5  rDev -14%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bottle. $8.

Appearance: Dark brown-black with dark red highlights. The beer is not flat, but there is not ample carbonation. There a thin head with a hard pour, but after 30 seconds, there's only a few wispy collections of tiny bubbles. When the glass is tipped, some thin lacing clings, then slides back down the snifter into the beer over a minute or two.

Smell: Very oaky. Rich and sweet caramel malt. Lots of vanilla. Some chocolate. There is detectable alcohol. It smells rich and delicious. I am a sucker for barrel aging.

Taste: I'm a little disapointed with the taste after smelling it. Its sharp and boozy and too oaky. Not a soft bourbony oak flavor, but a harsh, astringent green oak sap taste. This really dominates the palate until you swallow, at which point the aftertaste is nice rich, malty, a little smoky, and with vanilla notes. Also lots of booze in the finish. Actually the more I drink it, the more I like it, but its still just not quite right.

Mouthfeel: This is not what I wanted either. Its too thin. It has some syrupiness to it, but it is quickly cut and neutralized by the oak sap and alcohol. The finish is actually a little dry. Weird.

Drinkability: I would not buy it again, but would drink it again, and would be open to drinking an aged bottle. I think a different barrel for aging would make a world of difference. Its very close to being fantastic, but ends up being an OK version of high end beer.

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4/5  rDev +0.3%

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4/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of Ego
3.45/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

eyes...
2 full fingers of mildly cocoa head, fairly fluffy, light can barely navigate through this brew, lacing is good and the retention is admirable, your average to good looking brew.

nose...
wet wood, a little alcohol, subtle cocoa hints but mostly boozy wood tone

taste etc...
nice medium plus mouth feel, creamy, kind of a mild bitter chocolate flavor, the alcohol is pretty well hidden considering the ABV. This just doesn't "wow"...

verdict?
good beer, nothing great, packs a pretty good punch and it isn't crazy money.

Photo of Beerenauslese
3.63/5  rDev -9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle, 2011 vintage.

Very dark brown, pours easily in a tulip to a 3/4 inch head that is tan colored and has good retention.

Smells sweet and boozy, with a strong note of bourbon. Lots of dark fruit--prunes and rasins--under the alcohol and oak.

Tastes quite sweet and boozy, with dark fruit flavors of raisins and prunes, bourbon, vanilla, oak, charred malt, and some milk chocolate. The alcohol is prominent even for 10%.

Pretty smooth mouthfeel, not much carbonation. But I can feel the alcohol and acidic charred malt burning my tongue--this is pretty hot and spicy.

Overall, a drinkable barrel aged beer, but very boozy and hot--even after being cellared almost a year. Definitely a sipper as too much of this will make for a bad following day.

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4/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of martyl1000
4.39/5  rDev +10%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I've had this on tap a number of times at Jacs (Madison). And while my wife loves it, I've always felt overwhelmed by its bourbon-barrel booziness. But somehow now that I'm having it from a 12 oz. bottle, I find it enchanting. Seems counter-intuitive that the alcohol would be better hidden coming from a bottle than from a tap. But the vanilla roundness and lactose sweetness play front and center, and I now love it.

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4.25/5  rDev +6.5%

Photo of ypsifly
3.45/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Almost black with a small tan head that lingers for five minutes or so then falls to a small ring. Minimal lacing.

Smells very woody with some roasted malt underneath. The nose reminds me of Bell's Special Double Cream Stout, but this oak is younger.

The wood flavors are also the main component of the taste. After the oak things get fruity for a second, but the finish is a little weird. Like sour wood. On the upside, the abv is undetectable.

Nice, medium mouthfeel with moderate carbonation. The weird woodiness and high abv ruin the drinkability on this one.

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3.85/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Brown out of the bottle, deep black in the glass, topped at first with an inch and a half of loose, tan bubbly brown head that fades into a just as loose and soapy looking cap.

S: Lots and lots of bourbon, sort of amazing, I think this could give Bourbon County Stout a run for its money in terms of all out bourbon aroma, though given a bit of time to warm up other aromas begin to show themselves: vanilla, molasses, raisins, bitter bitter chocolate, lots of sweetness but really mostly bourbon.

T/MF: Bourbon up front but sweeter, richer flavors developing beneath. Vanilla, oak, molasses, and even a bit of pitted cherries make an appearance here. Feel is thick and sweet and grabs the tongue on the way down.

D: Not really sure where this beer fits, it tastes a lot like bourbon barrel aged stouts I've had in the past except that it's not a stout and the bourbon really seems to be the only thing driving this beer. If the beer were not barrel aged I am wondering what I'd be left with. Knowing this though the beer is still pretty good and drinks a great deal lighter than the above mentioned Bourbon County Stout. One is good and I'd leave it at that for the night.

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4/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of halo3one
4.15/5  rDev +4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Barreled in 2014. 3.78

A - dark, heavy

S - espresso, chocolate, mild

T - subdued, mocha, vanilla, mild bourbon

M - thick, pretty smooth

O - Could use more time in the bottle but a good option if they only have guiness and the like on tap. Will try a 2013 version later this year and see how it ages.

Update:the 2013 version is definitely better. Smoother, more bourbon, sweetness, and general cohesion. The 14 version is 11% vs 10% so it makes me wonder whether they changed the formula a bit. Get the 13 if you can!

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4/5  rDev +0.3%

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4/5  rDev +0.3%

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4.5/5  rDev +12.8%

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4.5/5  rDev +12.8%

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2.5/5  rDev -37.3%

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3.75/5  rDev -6%

Photo of scottyshades
3.78/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2010 batch for $3 a bottle

A: Pours a pitch black color with a small foamy khaki color cap. Retention is minimal.

S: Right off the bat you get the barrel aromas - wet wood/oak, bourbon in the nose (despite the fact that there is no bourbon), lots of vanilla, caramel, toffee.

T: The flavor is pretty interesting...its similar to BCS, but much thinner and with less bourbon/vanilla/richness. Actually pretty good. Alcohol is extremely warming (not unlike BCS), vanilla, chocolate, lots of oak, a touch of lactose, and maple syrup. Pretty complex, but not really balanced, and a little thin.

MF/D: Viscous body, smooth and creamy feel. Finish consists of vanilla and oak with a touch of bitterness/sourness.

Notes: This is like BCSs ugly cousin...a little thinner, sloppier, and less complex, but still good.

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4/5  rDev +0.3%

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3.75/5  rDev -6%

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3.75/5  rDev -6%

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3.75/5  rDev -6%

Dragon's Milk from New Holland Brewing Company
89 out of 100 based on 4,181 ratings.