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New Holland El Mole Ocho - New Holland Brewing Company

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346 Ratings
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Ratings: 346
Reviews: 150
rAvg: 3.52
pDev: 16.76%
Wants: 13
Gots: 17 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Herbed / Spiced Beer |  9.79% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: alexgash on 04-04-2010)
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5/5  rDev +42%

bob727, Nov 21, 2011
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4/5  rDev +13.6%

FedExPope, Nov 21, 2011
Photo of nmann08
3/5  rDev -14.8%

nmann08, Nov 18, 2011
Photo of endincolorado
4.8/5  rDev +36.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Pours a clear, deep, red-brown color with an ivory head and pretty lacing. Aroma is a wonderful blend of earthy, dried chiles, and cocoa powder. Strong notes of cocoa are noticed immediately in flavor, followed by a brief hint of espresso, and a dried-chile heat in the end which lingers on the palate. Body is appropriately smooth (a burp after this stuff makes me wonder if I've just left a Mexican restaurant).

I think this is a must-try for any fan of southwestern food (mole sauce in particular) or experimental brews.

endincolorado, Nov 18, 2011
Photo of tclapper
4/5  rDev +13.6%

tclapper, Nov 17, 2011
Photo of oline73
5/5  rDev +42%

oline73, Nov 16, 2011
Photo of TrentW
4/5  rDev +13.6%

TrentW, Nov 15, 2011
Photo of Adamostella
4/5  rDev +13.6%

Adamostella, Nov 14, 2011
Photo of thebouch01
5/5  rDev +42%

thebouch01, Nov 14, 2011
Photo of sbricker
4/5  rDev +13.6%

sbricker, Nov 14, 2011
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4/5  rDev +13.6%

nanobrew, Nov 14, 2011
Photo of CampusCrew
3.45/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

appearance: copperish color, maybe a brown ale base
smell: peppers noticable on the nose

taste: peppers can be tasted but not harsh, some heat on the back, but the body is missing in this beer

mouthfeel: light bodied?

drinkability: love pepper beers, this was a slight disappointment, good flavor, but needed more body.

CampusCrew, Nov 14, 2011
Photo of StoutHunter
3.88/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

I bought a bottle of New Holland's El Mole Ocho a couple weeks ago for $7.49 at The Lager Mill. I tried this beer last year at The World Expo of Beer, I thought it was pretty good, but I was already a couple beers deep by the time I tried it, so I decided to pick up a bottle and give it a try on a fresh palate. 2011 vintage, poured from a brown 22oz foiled brown bottle into a snifter.

A- The label looks alright and it has a picture of what looks to be an old Mexican stone cooking pot that I assume is specifically made for cooking mole, I have never tried or made mole before so I don't really know for sure. It poured a a nice copper/caramel color with a fingers worth of tan head that died down to a thin ring that stayed till the end.

S- Well after giving this beer a smell I get a pretty robust and spicy aroma. The aroma starts off with a good amount of rich dark chocolate that quickly leads to a pretty dominating amount of spicy chilies. I also pick up a mix of some sweet dark fruits with no hops showing up in the aroma, chocolate and peppers are the major players here.

T- The taste of this beer is pretty damn similar to the aroma. Just like the aroma it's the rich dark chocolate and chili peppers that stick out the most. The chocolate is nice and rich and the chili peppers are high on pepper flavor and low on pepper spiciness, just how I like it. There is caramel like sweetness that is cut and balanced by the peppers. Not the most complex flavor, its pretty straight forward and it is what it claims to be.

M- Pretty smooth for having a little bit of warming pepper heat. It was on the lighter side of being full bodied with a slight bit of stickiness and a pretty light amount of carbonation that could be bumped up a notch or two.

Overall I thought this was a good beer, I was a little gun shy about pepper beers ever since I tried Original C Cave Creek Chili Beer but this beer wasn't nearly as spicy while still retaining a nice authentic chili pepper taste and the chocolate was dark, rich and represented well, those two different flavors went together pretty well. This beer had pretty good drinkability for what it is, the 8% alcohol was covered up pretty well by the chocolate and slightly warming chili's, I don't think I could take out the whole bomber but it's the perfect amount to split with someone else so I am glad I got my brother to help me drink this. What I liked most about this beer the flavor, the chocolate and chili's went together nicely and it wasn't overly spicy, pretty good balance. What I liked least about this beer was the mouthfeel, it wasn't bad but it was little sticky and the carbonation was pretty low and could have been bumped up a couple notches. I wouldn't buy this beer regularly but it makes for a nice once in a while beer and I can only imagine that this beer would go good with some nice Mexican cuisine, I will have to test that out sometime. I would recommend giving this beer a try, don't let the fact that there are chili's in it scare you off, they offer a lot more flavor then heat and this might make a good entrance into the Chili Beer style. I am starting to really like some of New Holland's more experimental beers, they got a good knack at trying something a little different, so I think they should take more risks on more different beers like this one. So far this is the best beer I have had from the High Gravity Series, and the best chili beer I have had to date. Keep thinking out of the box every once in a while New Holland, you guys got some talent when it comes to some of these crazier beers.

StoutHunter, Oct 30, 2011
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2.8/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Had with some quesadillas.

At first pour there was some decent carbonation, basically right on par. The smell had hints of chocolate mostly, but wasn't tremendously strong. It was a murky brown color.

Upfront it delivers some nice chocolate flavor, and then hoppiness that feels out of place for this beer. The aftertaste is ok though, I got a sense of the chilis at the end. Average beer overall.

nubz77, Oct 20, 2011
Photo of SFLpunk
2.45/5  rDev -30.4%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 1 | overall: 1.5

22oz brown glass pry-top bottle. 2010 vintage. Purchased at Foodery (10th and Pine in Philly).

Pours still and muddy brown, a little reddish color, a hint of orange. No carbonation and super muddy. Aroma is oxidized to hell, smells like sticky malt extract, wood, dried chilies, and tree bark. Palate is flat and thick, viscous and sweet. Then things turn earthy, woody dry. I sort of get the chili peppers, but no coffee.

This beer was awful and I dumped out 3/4 of the bottle. Avoid.

SFLpunk, Oct 20, 2011
Photo of dedrinker
3.83/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Dark caramel color.

Aromas of chocolaty caramel malts with a puff of smoky chili pepper.

Flavors of sweet brown malt with smokey chili that reveals further layers of tobacco and cocoa.

Full sticky body with spicy sweet pungent tobacco finish that shows a hint of vanilla beneath an alcohol bite.

Rather fascinating overall if quite a bit cloying; not sure though that this cloying aspect could be improved without tampering with the subtle flavor and aroma profile.

dedrinker, Oct 15, 2011
Photo of JohnnyHopps
3.68/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

El Mole Ocho was poured from a bottle to a pint glass with little head. The aroma was immediate. Cinnamon and chocolate hints tickled the nose. An interesting reddish color attracted the eyes to this ale. Those dark like a stout, the mouthfeel yielded more to the feeling of an ale. The initial taste was that of chocolate and certain spiciness that brought back memories of those tiny heart-shaped cinnamon candies of Valentine's day. It was a spicy cinnamon. The spice lingers in the aftertaste moreso that the chocolate. This was the one disappointment in the experience.

JohnnyHopps, Sep 28, 2011
Photo of dmfrench
3.1/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Syrupy, spicy English Brown

2010 Vintage

A: Very hazy dirty brown/orange body with a very fleeting half finger light beige head.

S: Very English Brown... very sweet fruits, spices, big caramel malt. No hop presence, and I'm also not getting chillies or anything else like that.

T: Matching the nose quite well, except embittering hops do come out a bit. For me, the body is just too sweet.

M: Extremely syrupy and pretty flat. Not good.

O: Not good and really not much different than an English Brown.

dmfrench, Sep 19, 2011
Photo of GRPunk
4.22/5  rDev +19.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz. bottle of the 2011 vintage poured into a Duvel tulip. The cap says "finish." I think I will, thank you.

A- A careful pour created a 1-finger, tan head. It dropped pretty quickly, settling to a nice lace that left good sticky spots on the glass. The body was clean and a deep red-brown (chestnut?) with moderate carbonation.

S- My first impression was of deep, rich chocolate with hints of spicy peppers and light roast coffee. The chocolate aroma starts the strongest, but warmth pulls the other components into balance. Chocolate bars become more powdered coacoa with warmth. I pick up some baking spices with a deeper inspection. At room temperature there was a hint of the higher ABV, otherwise well masked.

T- I've heard you shouldn't be able to pick out a single ingredient of a true mole. Let's see what this beer version has in store...

So good. Chocolate and peppers are the most prominant. Like the aroma, chocolate is the major player when the beer is at its coldest. Peppers step up with some warmth. Initial sweetness is cut by late heat. Background flavors consist of a spice mix and coffee. There's a smoky or charred quality to the peppers and something of brown sugar or caramel in the layers of sweetness.

M- Moderate carbonation and viscosity that suits the higher ABV. THe chillis make for a gentle burn that let you know they're there without overwhelming the senses. There's also a light, pleasant chalkyness that it tend to get from beers working with chocolate.

O- This is an awesome example of what a pepper beer can be. It brings a great flavor with gentle heat. It's not neutered, but not over the top either. It's VERY drinkable considering the ABV and chilli profile.

GRPunk, Sep 12, 2011
Photo of Vonerichs
3.7/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

The body is a clear mohagany. It has great color. The head is off white and thin, no lacing.

It's lacking in the smell department. Cocoa, faint smoke, and a little nutty.

The different facets come through in the taste. The cocoa dominates, followed by a bitter coffee. The chilies come through with some light heat in the end. I am a little disappointed by the extent of the chilies and would have liked to have seen them be more assertive.

Mouthfeel is thick with low carbonation. As it warms it even feels a little syrupy.

I really enjoyed this beer but it was lacking in a few key areas. This could be so much better if it was a little more assertive and less "user friendly."

Vonerichs, Aug 23, 2011
Photo of jale
3.6/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Had on tap at the Shark club in Howell.

A: Pours a clear brown with a dime of off white head.

S: Roasted coffee and cocoa.

T: A hint of sweetness upfront followed by a mere second of roasted malt. I feel the heat from the chillis but not much flavor from them. I get mild chocolate from time to time. Finish is sweet, spicy and bitter coffee.

M: Medium body with good carbonation.

O: I would have liked more flavor from the peppers and not just heat.

jale, Aug 09, 2011
Photo of Rhettroactive
2.17/5  rDev -38.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

From 22oz bomber to Bruges hybrid glass on 7/12/11
*From notes

A: Dirty, muddy brown. A decent pour yields a one finger head that dissipates entirely too soon. Little to no lacing.

S: Slightly spicy, though not as caliente as I'd hoped it would be. A good bit of pimento is apparent all over the nose.

T: A kick of heat up front, followed by a thinly masked layer of fake and rubbery chocolate. Uninspiring. The mid to finish is earthy, and the aftertaste resembles (what I can only assume is) chilled cat urine.

M: Thin, thin, thin.

O: New Holland's El Mole Ocho is a dissapointment on multiple fronts. Considering all of the parts here, the whole should be signifigantly better.

You want a brew with heat? Forget about this and seek out CCB's Hunahpu or Mikkeller's Texas Ranger.

Rhettroactive, Aug 04, 2011
Photo of ebby82
1.93/5  rDev -45.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

I had this beer as part of a sampler at the brewpub.

It had dark brown color with no head when it arrived.

The aroma was of spicy chiles, chocolate, and a little bit of malt.

The taste was rather disgusting. Chiles and chocolate and little else. I tried, but was unable to finish even the little sampler I had.
My wife was similarly disgusted.

I'm not sure who drinks this beer, but more power to them if they enjoy it.

ebby82, Jul 17, 2011
Photo of AgentZero
3.2/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A - Dark amber color with a bit of an off-white head. Little bit of lacing.

S - Chipotle peppers, little bit of smoke, chocolate. It does smell like mole, but something just missing here.

T - Taste is about like the smell, I find it kind of boring. There is some heat from the peppers, and sweetness from the chocolate.

M - Syrupy, fairly full, lower carbonation.

O - Not a great beer, and I paid way too much for it at the bar because I was drunk. It's okay, but there's better examples of the "style."

AgentZero, Jul 15, 2011
Photo of ModemMisuser
4.65/5  rDev +32.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Had on tap at NH. :)

Far too many "specialty" (flavored) beers either don't have the
taste of the thing they're supposed to, or it's too overpowering and/or "fake" tasting to be good.

Not this one. It tastes like it's made with mole, and it comes through very good. The beer-y notes are there in the background and make a good compliment to the mole.

If you're looking for something "different," give this one a try!

ModemMisuser, Jul 06, 2011
New Holland El Mole Ocho from New Holland Brewing Company
78 out of 100 based on 346 ratings.