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New Holland El Mole Ocho - New Holland Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
80
good

327 Ratings
THE BROS
86
very good

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Ratings: 327
Reviews: 150
rAvg: 3.53
pDev: 16.71%
Wants: 11
Gots: 16 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Herbed / Spiced Beer |  9.79% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: alexgash on 04-04-2010)
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Vonerichs

Illinois

3.7/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

The body is a clear mohagany. It has great color. The head is off white and thin, no lacing.

It's lacking in the smell department. Cocoa, faint smoke, and a little nutty.

The different facets come through in the taste. The cocoa dominates, followed by a bitter coffee. The chilies come through with some light heat in the end. I am a little disappointed by the extent of the chilies and would have liked to have seen them be more assertive.

Mouthfeel is thick with low carbonation. As it warms it even feels a little syrupy.

I really enjoyed this beer but it was lacking in a few key areas. This could be so much better if it was a little more assertive and less "user friendly."

Serving type: bottle

08-23-2011 02:00:19 | More by Vonerichs
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jale

Michigan

3.6/5  rDev +2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Had on tap at the Shark club in Howell.

A: Pours a clear brown with a dime of off white head.

S: Roasted coffee and cocoa.

T: A hint of sweetness upfront followed by a mere second of roasted malt. I feel the heat from the chillis but not much flavor from them. I get mild chocolate from time to time. Finish is sweet, spicy and bitter coffee.

M: Medium body with good carbonation.

O: I would have liked more flavor from the peppers and not just heat.

Serving type: on-tap

08-09-2011 22:18:58 | More by jale
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Rhettroactive

District of Columbia

2.17/5  rDev -38.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

From 22oz bomber to Bruges hybrid glass on 7/12/11
*From notes

A: Dirty, muddy brown. A decent pour yields a one finger head that dissipates entirely too soon. Little to no lacing.

S: Slightly spicy, though not as caliente as I'd hoped it would be. A good bit of pimento is apparent all over the nose.

T: A kick of heat up front, followed by a thinly masked layer of fake and rubbery chocolate. Uninspiring. The mid to finish is earthy, and the aftertaste resembles (what I can only assume is) chilled cat urine.

M: Thin, thin, thin.

O: New Holland's El Mole Ocho is a dissapointment on multiple fronts. Considering all of the parts here, the whole should be signifigantly better.

You want a brew with heat? Forget about this and seek out CCB's Hunahpu or Mikkeller's Texas Ranger.

Serving type: bottle

08-04-2011 21:28:18 | More by Rhettroactive
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ebby82

Virginia

1.93/5  rDev -45.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

I had this beer as part of a sampler at the brewpub.

It had dark brown color with no head when it arrived.

The aroma was of spicy chiles, chocolate, and a little bit of malt.

The taste was rather disgusting. Chiles and chocolate and little else. I tried, but was unable to finish even the little sampler I had.
My wife was similarly disgusted.

I'm not sure who drinks this beer, but more power to them if they enjoy it.

Serving type: on-tap

07-17-2011 12:43:15 | More by ebby82
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AgentZero

Illinois

3.2/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A - Dark amber color with a bit of an off-white head. Little bit of lacing.

S - Chipotle peppers, little bit of smoke, chocolate. It does smell like mole, but something just missing here.

T - Taste is about like the smell, I find it kind of boring. There is some heat from the peppers, and sweetness from the chocolate.

M - Syrupy, fairly full, lower carbonation.

O - Not a great beer, and I paid way too much for it at the bar because I was drunk. It's okay, but there's better examples of the "style."

Serving type: bottle

07-15-2011 14:50:33 | More by AgentZero
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ModemMisuser

Indiana

4.65/5  rDev +31.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Had on tap at NH. :)

Far too many "specialty" (flavored) beers either don't have the
taste of the thing they're supposed to, or it's too overpowering and/or "fake" tasting to be good.

Not this one. It tastes like it's made with mole, and it comes through very good. The beer-y notes are there in the background and make a good compliment to the mole.

If you're looking for something "different," give this one a try!

Serving type: on-tap

07-06-2011 17:33:23 | More by ModemMisuser
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Pencible

Virginia

4/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: This poured a clear mahogany with a little light tan head.
S: It smelled like roasted barley and chipotle smoked peppers, with a little wheat bread.
T: It tasted like milk chocolate and spicy smoked peppers, with roasted barley and a bit of copper. It had a spicy and roasty aftertaste.
M: It was somewhat thick with moderate carbonation. Nice and full body.
D: This was an interesting beer with well integrated molé characteristics to create a spicy brown ale. I enjoyed the scent and taste, and the body was nice too. The spice helped hide the alcohol, so it was pretty easy to drink. A bit of a novelty beer, but recommended to try at least once.

Serving type: bottle

06-30-2011 19:48:31 | More by Pencible
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n2185

North Carolina

3.78/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a clear mahogany with two fingers of off-white head that recedes into a thin ring with no lacing.

S: Cocoa and cayenne . . . smells a lot like a mole sauce, unsurprisingly. There are some roasted malt aromas in there as well. Simple, but pleasant.

T: Similar to the aroma, there are some roasted malts at first followed by some dark cocoa. The cayenne comes in on the finish, not overpowering though, and leaves a little burn. There are some smoky flavors

M: Medium body with low carbonation, this beer is a bit slick feeling with just enough carbonation to provide a little extra bite with the spicy notes.

O: A very unique beer and while it's good, it's also very simple. True to its name, it tastes like a mole sauce somehow turned into a beer. I enjoyed it, but at nearly $9 for a bomber, I probably won't be seeking it out again.

Serving type: bottle

06-16-2011 02:39:29 | More by n2185
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Lauthaha

Michigan

3.85/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22 ounce bottle into a tulip glass.

Appearance: Beer is an iced-tea color, with a creamy tan head. About 80% opaque. After the beer settles a little bit, there's an intriguing geyser of carbonation in the center of the glass...it forms an eye (a la hurricanes) in the center of the head...pretty sweet!

Smell: Heavily toasted woody malt character, rich dark chocolate. It's a touch on the sour side, which detracts from the overall feeling, but it's not all bad...just not all good.

Taste/Mouthfeel: Very woody at first, some heavy bitterness follows up with dark chocolate and muddy coffee notes. Heavy carbonation carries flavors across the palate. Around the edges, there is a spicy chile flavor, and this follows into the aftertaste. Beer finishes relatively dry.

Overall: A good beer. A little on the sour side, and I'm not really a spiced-beer person (I prefer spiced wine to spiced beer), but I would certainly recommend it to those who were.

Serving type: bottle

06-15-2011 00:47:46 | More by Lauthaha
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KarlHungus

Minnesota

4.22/5  rDev +19.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This beer pours a clear dark brown color. The head is a quarter inch in height, and recedes quickly into no lacing. This lacing pattern seems par for the course with chili beers. The aroma is of chili peppers, with a backing of cocoa, and a hint of coffee. However, for an 8% beer it is rather mild. The taste has considerably more cocoa and coffee than the aroma, with the chili present not overpowering anything during the sip. It comes out stronger in the finish, and leaves some nice, wanted heat. I really like this beers flavor. The mouthfeel is medium-full bodied with a velvety texture, and moderate carbonation. Overall, this is a very well done beer that I will certainly drink again. I really like how the chili is well integrated into the other aspects of this beer.

Serving type: bottle

06-12-2011 23:53:48 | More by KarlHungus
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Ninjabrew

Illinois

3.53/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

OK, so first off this beer (like many others) depends on what you are drinking it with or what other beers you had first. I DO NOT recommend having this beer after a hoppy beer. Try having this with a meal I had it with a chipotle rubbed skirt steak and that took this beer from a D to a soild B.

Apperance: Pours a deep almost black red with a faint head that quickly fades to a nicely laced glass.

Smell: Smells like something other than beer, perhaps more like a spice.

Taste: I taste burn candy with very faint chilli or pepper overtones.

Overall: A solid beer that must be tried, by no means a go-to beer but something different for a different experience. Try this with a spicy (chilli like) meal and you won't be dissaointed.

Serving type: bottle

05-30-2011 23:37:59 | More by Ninjabrew
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SwartzCr

Massachusetts

2.1/5  rDev -40.5%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Pours light yellow, with white-ish head.

The smell is strange, almost all chili and beans with no trace of malt or hops. The taste is similar with a dry spicy sort of bean mouth feel and a painful sensation as the spice attacks your esophagus. Had almost no beer like elements in the nose or taste. As it was physically hurting me, I could not finish the bomber.

Would not recommend, especially at this price.

Serving type: bottle

05-26-2011 14:33:41 | More by SwartzCr
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EricCioe

Montana

3.58/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This pours deep red with a two finger beachsand head that dies down to a nice sheet with little lace. On the nose there is a mixture of chocolate and spicy chilies. In the mouth there is a nice caramel and chocolate base of malt with some spicy chili riding on top of that. This is a spicy beer, no doubt, but there is definitely a malt base underneath. I wish there were more chocolate to balance it out a little bit, as the chili gets a bit tiresome after a time. Perhaps after some time in the bottle this would mellow a bit? Who knows. The body is medium, and it drinks really nicely with a medium finish, chili hanging on longer than the malts.

Overall, this is a pretty nice beer. The chili borders on a bit too much, but never quite crosses the line. It's something that's worth drinking once in a while, but probably too ... something, maybe one-dimensional, maybe distinctive ... to drink regularly.

Serving type: bottle

05-17-2011 02:53:55 | More by EricCioe
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hosehead83

Ohio

2.83/5  rDev -19.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Poured from a "bomber" bottle into a standard pint glass.
Cola/dark tea color, with a short, off-white head of foam.
Aroma-Chocolate, spices, chili pepper
Taste-Sweet malt, faint coffee,chocolate note, faint chili pepper. Pretty thin bodied, with subdued, if not weak, flavors. More of everything is needed here except the sweetness which borders on cloying. Disappointing.

Serving type: bottle

05-16-2011 17:11:24 | More by hosehead83
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brewcrew76

Wisconsin

3.4/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Thought I would enjoy this on siete de mayo. Assumed this was a stout for some reason and was surprised.

A - Clear ruby mahogany with a thin off white head.

S - Toffee, nutty, chili pepper, chocolate.

T - Strong chili pepper followed by toasty malts, toffee, chocolate and more pepper.

M - Light body and fairly thin with light carbonation and slight warming from the chili pepper.

D - I was excited to try this but fairly disappointed.

Serving type: bottle

05-08-2011 03:22:48 | More by brewcrew76
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Holland

Illinois

3.3/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: deep brown, even in the small glass I was served in Holland. Kind of meh lacing, and little head that stayed around.

S: very nutty, almost like smelling inside a jar of peanut butter. Also smells of spices like cinnamon and malt.

T: malty, some chili, some cacao, and a very slight nutty flavor. Some sweetness rounds it out.

M: creamy and sticky, which wasn't as I expected.

O: not great. I liked it, but was glad I didn't have a large bottle of it. Probably won't order again just due to opportunity cost - there are so many better beers, even though this one is a good spiced beer.

Serving type: on-tap

04-29-2011 15:34:37 | More by Holland
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jwinship83

Illinois

3.58/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

a bottle pulled out of the cellar that i forgot i had. drank from my stone IRS snifter. i figure that its got to be a year old at this point.

A- this one pours out a muddy looking dark brown colored body with a small khaki colored head on top. the head takes its time falling, and leaves behind small spots of lacing.

S- the first thing that i can pick out of the nose are lightly roasted malts and milk chocolate. after that i get some raisins and tobacco. a little bit of chili pepper sneaks through near the end. earthy hops finish this one off.

T- the taste starts out with more of the lightly roasted malts that i could smell. after that i pick up the distinct taste of chili pepper and lots of milk chocolate. not too spicy, but theres certainly a kick to this. earthy hops and coffee on the finish.

M- medium bodied. almost a little thin. there is a nice low level of carbonation that really works here. a little bit of heat from the pepper lingers. smooth and creamy.

O- one of the more interesting beers ive had in recent memory. it took a large percentage of the bottle to determine if i liked it or now. im still kind of on the fence about it. its almost like a chocolate chili stout. id try it again. id really get excited about having a fresh one to compare it to.

Serving type: bottle

03-24-2011 04:04:42 | More by jwinship83
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Brent

Kentucky

3.7/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

While not a bad beer, I expected a bit more of an exotic note. Nice dark brown color and roasted malt flavor with a pronounced coco nibs and unsweetened chocolate powder aspect - slightly astringent and drying at the finish. I was unable to detect any pepper flavors to speak of. While the unsweetened chocolate notes were appropriate for a mole-inspired beer, it was overall fairly one-dimensional.

Serving type: bottle

02-16-2011 16:01:17 | More by Brent
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maximum12

Minnesota

2.83/5  rDev -19.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

After tasting the wonder that was Hunahpu's, I happened upon this soon afer, & wondered if chile was a magical component in beer. I suspect not. But hell, it's worth a try. Split the 22 oz. bottle with my wife after a fine Afghan meal in St. Paul.

Pour is dark red that muddled through the night to a Red Dawn. Smells like a burrito. No, not a burro. The chile smell goes all the way to the mat.

El Mole Ocho is like a Mexican menu slap to the face. New Holland must have emptied acres of chiles just for this one bottle; it's overpowering. After a few sips the heat begins to wend its way out of the mouth & into the throat & upper respiratory system. Whatever else is in here was thrown out with the baby.

Simply: bizarre. Chiles in a bottle, possibly mixed with beer characteristics. Not bad, but not really beer. Bizarre.

Serving type: bottle

02-13-2011 04:45:31 | More by maximum12
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Cyberkedi

Georgia

4.22/5  rDev +19.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Aroma is strong with an overtone of quality coffee and hints of cocoa, cinnamon and licorice. It pours a luscious semi-transparent mahogany brown with an average light tan head that leaves a fair amount of lacing. Flavor is malty with tones of coffee, cinnamon, caramel and licorice and a hint of powdery chocolate. Texture is smooth as soymilk yet has a firm tingle and a bit of edginess, as well as a subtle alcohol bite. Worthy!

Serving type: bottle

01-29-2011 02:10:19 | More by Cyberkedi
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htomsirveaux

Texas

3.83/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 oz. bottle tried 22 Aug 2010. Served in the (512) One snifter.

Small light brown head quickly dissipates. Medium carbonation. Clear light molasses in color. Aroma is sweet, cherries, chipotle, touch of chocolate. Flavor is lightly sweet chocolate, some cherries. The chile starts to come out in the middle and finish. Finish and aftertaste is just the right chocolate-chili sweet/hot combo. Medium body. Ethanol is warming.

What happened to the first seven mole beers?

Serving type: bottle

01-23-2011 21:39:01 | More by htomsirveaux
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weeare138

Pennsylvania

3.8/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appears a turbid dark with auburn highlights when held to the light. A small, off white head quickly settles into a gentle cap of fluff. Scattered streaks of lacing are left around the glass.
Smell is of spicy nutmeg, cocoa, roasted nuts, ripe fruit, and espresso.
Taste is of the aromas with a gentle hint of chili peppers pulling through the sweetness of the malt. Mild bit of herbal hops are found in the background with a toffee flavor opening up as the hops and heat mix through the palate.
Mouthfeel is medium bodied, warming, with steady carbonation.
Interesting beer! Thanks, Joel!

Serving type: bottle

12-29-2010 17:32:45 | More by weeare138
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silentjay

Massachusetts

3.6/5  rDev +2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

has the look of an english brown with a hazy brown body and an average beach sand colored head that sticks around for a bit and laces ok.

aroma definitely has some chili in it. some light cocoa, cigar smoke, and a bit of roast and smoked bbq. odd, but nice.

lots going on in the flavor (not unlike a traditional mole sauce), but it doesnt quite come together as seamlessly as one would hope. cocoa, toffe, smoke, chile peppers, cracked black pepper, mesquite spice, coffee. a bit darker roast and more bitter chocolate would have helped i think, but overall pretty tasty.

almost medium bodied with generous carbonation that may be too much for me.

drinks okay. with a little fine-tuning of the flavor mix, this could be a very good, unique brew. pretty good as is.

Serving type: bottle

12-29-2010 04:30:00 | More by silentjay
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TheSarge

Virginia

4.18/5  rDev +18.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a decent crown of light tan head, but dissipates way too quickly. The body is brown/copper and has no haze.

In the aroma the malty cocoa aroma comes upfront, then a touch of vanilla, and in the end there's a kick of the chili.

Taste wise it's a vivid brew with a medly of flavors. Honey, caramel, toffee, vanilla, and chili in the end that lends this brew to it's spicy finish.

Feels medium to full in body, a little dry to the palate, and warms with a finish from the chili and alcohol.

Serving type: bottle

12-17-2010 00:46:23 | More by TheSarge
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JizackFH

New York

3.75/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - This beer pours a dark ruby brown color. It has a small tan head that left decent lacing on the glass as it fell.

S - This one smells dark and roasty. There are hints of chipotle peppers, chocolate, toffee, booze, and coffee.

T - There is a malty sweetness and some roastiness. There is a slight peppery burn, but I was hoping for a little bit more. There is also a slight booziness that gives the finish a warming quality.

M - This has a surprisingly light body with medium carbonation. It was warming and pretty crisp.

D - This is a very interesting beer, and I'd say that it is pretty drinkable. It goes down quite easy. I was honestly hoping for a more peppery bite and stronger chocolate notes, but oh well. This is definitely a beer worth trying.

Serving type: bottle

12-04-2010 05:53:34 | More by JizackFH
New Holland El Mole Ocho from New Holland Brewing Company
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