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New Holland El Mole Ocho - New Holland Brewing Company

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368 Ratings
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Ratings: 368
Reviews: 153
rAvg: 3.51
pDev: 17.09%
Wants: 15
Gots: 22 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Herbed / Spiced Beer |  9.79% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: alexgash on 04-04-2010)
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Photo of KarlHungus
4.22/5  rDev +20.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This beer pours a clear dark brown color. The head is a quarter inch in height, and recedes quickly into no lacing. This lacing pattern seems par for the course with chili beers. The aroma is of chili peppers, with a backing of cocoa, and a hint of coffee. However, for an 8% beer it is rather mild. The taste has considerably more cocoa and coffee than the aroma, with the chili present not overpowering anything during the sip. It comes out stronger in the finish, and leaves some nice, wanted heat. I really like this beers flavor. The mouthfeel is medium-full bodied with a velvety texture, and moderate carbonation. Overall, this is a very well done beer that I will certainly drink again. I really like how the chili is well integrated into the other aspects of this beer.

Photo of Ninjabrew
3.53/5  rDev +0.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

OK, so first off this beer (like many others) depends on what you are drinking it with or what other beers you had first. I DO NOT recommend having this beer after a hoppy beer. Try having this with a meal I had it with a chipotle rubbed skirt steak and that took this beer from a D to a soild B.

Apperance: Pours a deep almost black red with a faint head that quickly fades to a nicely laced glass.

Smell: Smells like something other than beer, perhaps more like a spice.

Taste: I taste burn candy with very faint chilli or pepper overtones.

Overall: A solid beer that must be tried, by no means a go-to beer but something different for a different experience. Try this with a spicy (chilli like) meal and you won't be dissaointed.

Photo of SwartzCr
2.1/5  rDev -40.2%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Pours light yellow, with white-ish head.

The smell is strange, almost all chili and beans with no trace of malt or hops. The taste is similar with a dry spicy sort of bean mouth feel and a painful sensation as the spice attacks your esophagus. Had almost no beer like elements in the nose or taste. As it was physically hurting me, I could not finish the bomber.

Would not recommend, especially at this price.

Photo of EricCioe
3.58/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This pours deep red with a two finger beachsand head that dies down to a nice sheet with little lace. On the nose there is a mixture of chocolate and spicy chilies. In the mouth there is a nice caramel and chocolate base of malt with some spicy chili riding on top of that. This is a spicy beer, no doubt, but there is definitely a malt base underneath. I wish there were more chocolate to balance it out a little bit, as the chili gets a bit tiresome after a time. Perhaps after some time in the bottle this would mellow a bit? Who knows. The body is medium, and it drinks really nicely with a medium finish, chili hanging on longer than the malts.

Overall, this is a pretty nice beer. The chili borders on a bit too much, but never quite crosses the line. It's something that's worth drinking once in a while, but probably too ... something, maybe one-dimensional, maybe distinctive ... to drink regularly.

Photo of hosehead83
2.83/5  rDev -19.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Poured from a "bomber" bottle into a standard pint glass.
Cola/dark tea color, with a short, off-white head of foam.
Aroma-Chocolate, spices, chili pepper
Taste-Sweet malt, faint coffee,chocolate note, faint chili pepper. Pretty thin bodied, with subdued, if not weak, flavors. More of everything is needed here except the sweetness which borders on cloying. Disappointing.

Photo of brewcrew76
3.4/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Thought I would enjoy this on siete de mayo. Assumed this was a stout for some reason and was surprised.

A - Clear ruby mahogany with a thin off white head.

S - Toffee, nutty, chili pepper, chocolate.

T - Strong chili pepper followed by toasty malts, toffee, chocolate and more pepper.

M - Light body and fairly thin with light carbonation and slight warming from the chili pepper.

D - I was excited to try this but fairly disappointed.

Photo of Holland
3.3/5  rDev -6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: deep brown, even in the small glass I was served in Holland. Kind of meh lacing, and little head that stayed around.

S: very nutty, almost like smelling inside a jar of peanut butter. Also smells of spices like cinnamon and malt.

T: malty, some chili, some cacao, and a very slight nutty flavor. Some sweetness rounds it out.

M: creamy and sticky, which wasn't as I expected.

O: not great. I liked it, but was glad I didn't have a large bottle of it. Probably won't order again just due to opportunity cost - there are so many better beers, even though this one is a good spiced beer.

Photo of jwinship83
3.58/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

a bottle pulled out of the cellar that i forgot i had. drank from my stone IRS snifter. i figure that its got to be a year old at this point.

A- this one pours out a muddy looking dark brown colored body with a small khaki colored head on top. the head takes its time falling, and leaves behind small spots of lacing.

S- the first thing that i can pick out of the nose are lightly roasted malts and milk chocolate. after that i get some raisins and tobacco. a little bit of chili pepper sneaks through near the end. earthy hops finish this one off.

T- the taste starts out with more of the lightly roasted malts that i could smell. after that i pick up the distinct taste of chili pepper and lots of milk chocolate. not too spicy, but theres certainly a kick to this. earthy hops and coffee on the finish.

M- medium bodied. almost a little thin. there is a nice low level of carbonation that really works here. a little bit of heat from the pepper lingers. smooth and creamy.

O- one of the more interesting beers ive had in recent memory. it took a large percentage of the bottle to determine if i liked it or now. im still kind of on the fence about it. its almost like a chocolate chili stout. id try it again. id really get excited about having a fresh one to compare it to.

Photo of Brent
3.7/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

While not a bad beer, I expected a bit more of an exotic note. Nice dark brown color and roasted malt flavor with a pronounced coco nibs and unsweetened chocolate powder aspect - slightly astringent and drying at the finish. I was unable to detect any pepper flavors to speak of. While the unsweetened chocolate notes were appropriate for a mole-inspired beer, it was overall fairly one-dimensional.

Photo of maximum12
2.83/5  rDev -19.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

After tasting the wonder that was Hunahpu's, I happened upon this soon afer, & wondered if chile was a magical component in beer. I suspect not. But hell, it's worth a try. Split the 22 oz. bottle with my wife after a fine Afghan meal in St. Paul.

Pour is dark red that muddled through the night to a Red Dawn. Smells like a burrito. No, not a burro. The chile smell goes all the way to the mat.

El Mole Ocho is like a Mexican menu slap to the face. New Holland must have emptied acres of chiles just for this one bottle; it's overpowering. After a few sips the heat begins to wend its way out of the mouth & into the throat & upper respiratory system. Whatever else is in here was thrown out with the baby.

Simply: bizarre. Chiles in a bottle, possibly mixed with beer characteristics. Not bad, but not really beer. Bizarre.

Photo of Cyberkedi
4.22/5  rDev +20.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Aroma is strong with an overtone of quality coffee and hints of cocoa, cinnamon and licorice. It pours a luscious semi-transparent mahogany brown with an average light tan head that leaves a fair amount of lacing. Flavor is malty with tones of coffee, cinnamon, caramel and licorice and a hint of powdery chocolate. Texture is smooth as soymilk yet has a firm tingle and a bit of edginess, as well as a subtle alcohol bite. Worthy!

Photo of htomsirveaux
3.83/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 oz. bottle tried 22 Aug 2010. Served in the (512) One snifter.

Small light brown head quickly dissipates. Medium carbonation. Clear light molasses in color. Aroma is sweet, cherries, chipotle, touch of chocolate. Flavor is lightly sweet chocolate, some cherries. The chile starts to come out in the middle and finish. Finish and aftertaste is just the right chocolate-chili sweet/hot combo. Medium body. Ethanol is warming.

What happened to the first seven mole beers?

Photo of weeare138
3.8/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appears a turbid dark with auburn highlights when held to the light. A small, off white head quickly settles into a gentle cap of fluff. Scattered streaks of lacing are left around the glass.
Smell is of spicy nutmeg, cocoa, roasted nuts, ripe fruit, and espresso.
Taste is of the aromas with a gentle hint of chili peppers pulling through the sweetness of the malt. Mild bit of herbal hops are found in the background with a toffee flavor opening up as the hops and heat mix through the palate.
Mouthfeel is medium bodied, warming, with steady carbonation.
Interesting beer! Thanks, Joel!

Photo of silentjay
3.6/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

has the look of an english brown with a hazy brown body and an average beach sand colored head that sticks around for a bit and laces ok.

aroma definitely has some chili in it. some light cocoa, cigar smoke, and a bit of roast and smoked bbq. odd, but nice.

lots going on in the flavor (not unlike a traditional mole sauce), but it doesnt quite come together as seamlessly as one would hope. cocoa, toffe, smoke, chile peppers, cracked black pepper, mesquite spice, coffee. a bit darker roast and more bitter chocolate would have helped i think, but overall pretty tasty.

almost medium bodied with generous carbonation that may be too much for me.

drinks okay. with a little fine-tuning of the flavor mix, this could be a very good, unique brew. pretty good as is.

Photo of TheSarge
4.18/5  rDev +19.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a decent crown of light tan head, but dissipates way too quickly. The body is brown/copper and has no haze.

In the aroma the malty cocoa aroma comes upfront, then a touch of vanilla, and in the end there's a kick of the chili.

Taste wise it's a vivid brew with a medly of flavors. Honey, caramel, toffee, vanilla, and chili in the end that lends this brew to it's spicy finish.

Feels medium to full in body, a little dry to the palate, and warms with a finish from the chili and alcohol.

Photo of JizackFH
3.75/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - This beer pours a dark ruby brown color. It has a small tan head that left decent lacing on the glass as it fell.

S - This one smells dark and roasty. There are hints of chipotle peppers, chocolate, toffee, booze, and coffee.

T - There is a malty sweetness and some roastiness. There is a slight peppery burn, but I was hoping for a little bit more. There is also a slight booziness that gives the finish a warming quality.

M - This has a surprisingly light body with medium carbonation. It was warming and pretty crisp.

D - This is a very interesting beer, and I'd say that it is pretty drinkable. It goes down quite easy. I was honestly hoping for a more peppery bite and stronger chocolate notes, but oh well. This is definitely a beer worth trying.

Photo of gnemesis
3.18/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

07/05/2010 poured into snifter. I always find it hard to review beers like this as there is no distinct style or any other beer to compare it too.
Pours a reddish brown topped by thin off-white head. I smell dark fruit, earth, maybe some caramel and some roasted malts.l The taste reveals some chocolate, fig, roasted malts, little hops. Medium to full body with good carbonation. Not terrible considering I don't taste mole (mole-ay not mole) but this isn't very drinkable. Super interesting try though.

Photo of ne0m00re
3.63/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Had a 22 oz bottle of this one yesterday thanks to my bro-in-law.
A: Ruby brown, nice one-finger tan head.
S: Bourbon-maple syrup, caramel, cigar molasses, and overall very sweet with green hops.
T: Spicy (remnants of pumpkin spice and cinnamon), maple syrup, almost chocolate caramel roast, with cigar, bright hops on the finish, and bourbon alcohol characteristics.
M: Creamy/syrupy/slightly sticky.
D: One glass is good.

Photo of Spider889
2.45/5  rDev -30.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

On tap at Bodega. It's been there for weeks... I wonder why...

What a strange beer. To be honest, this was one where sheer morbid curiosity overcame me. At under $3 a glass during Bodega's happy hour I figured there was minimal risk. Though had they not run out of Breakfast Stout I'd have ignored this beer completely!

I can't even begin to remember all of the ingredients in this beer. I know there are many traditional mole ingredients: chocolate, chile peppers, coffee...

Looked inviting enough, dark but slightly clear. The color of weak, watery coffee. Slight tan colored head on it.

Smelled like coffee alright. Slightly sweet and some nice dark malts in there as well.

Flavor was all over the place. Sweet chocolate up front, followed by roasty malts. Then a very slight prickle of heat on the tongue, but it faded quickly before reaching the back of the throat. The chile is noticeable, but I would have liked a little more I think. Mild coffee flavors and more sweetness. There's some hop bitterness on the finish leaving behind a roasted, dry coffee aftertaste. Frankly the aftertaste was the only part of the flavor I liked. Everything was much too jumbled and odd for my liking.

I did not find this very drinkable. The third bad beer of the night at Bodega last Friday. Thank god for half off happy hour...

Photo of Thorpe429
3.28/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed from notes.

Pours a moderately-dark amber color with a thin head. Nose brings some light chipotle peppers and a bit of might smoke. The taste is dried chili peppers, smoke, and a little roast. Light heat comes through. Interesting, but not all that tasty.

Photo of Radome
3.5/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Served from a bomber bottle into a snifter.

A - Color is dark reddish brown and very clear. The head was initially off-white an made of large bubbles. It faded very quickly to just a ring around the glass.

S - The aroma is of dark, roasted, smoky chipotle peppers. It is pretty one-dimensional. It smells like it will be spicy. I don't get the chocolate overtones I expected from the mole.

T - The taste is a mix of malt, smoke and chili pepper burn. It is interesting, but not as interesting as the name and description made me hope.

M - The body is fairly light. No carbonation or alcohol burn.

D - This beer is one-dimensional based around a smoky chipotle pepper smell and taste. There really are no other characteristics that break past that one. Interesting but disappointing.

Photo of Haybeerman
3.38/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: Red/amber color. Fizzy white head that dissipates quickly. No lacing.

S: Pepper and musty tomato aroma. Wet grains and burned wood. A bit of a floral character.

T: Sweet malts and wet grains. Burnt flavors to a building chili heat. Warming alcohol too. A little vegetable/tomato lingers; almost ashy aftertaste.

M: Light body. Moderate carbonation. There's just a lot going on in this beer on the heat side, I noticed little else.

D: Interesting for sure, but I really didn't like it. I almost didn't want to review it.

Photo of brewdlyhooked13
3.18/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Appearance - reddish, almost magenta color to the amber brew. Soda pop bubbles fizzle away with no head formation whatsoever. A mostly naked top after just a few seconds.

Aroma - peppery, a hint of grain that smacks of tomato. Burnt wood, scorchy like. Intriguing. The bottle cap says 'floral'. Nothing doing along that line in *this* bottle.

Taste - malty sweet on the grain side. Definite peppery and slightly burnt flavors for a counter punch. Some abv heat to go alongside the chili heat. Some late grain roastiness. The chilies light up the grain, giving me that tomato, vegetal take. Warm and a little ashy on the aftertaste, not bad.

Mouthfeel - thin, crisp, light body. Meh.

Drinkability - interesting but not as good as I hoped it'd be. Could use more malt presence.

Photo of lackenhauser
3.75/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Your usual brown ale sort of beer-soft coppery color. Aroma is a mild mix of cocoa/jalapeno and somewhat boozy. A fair amount going on here though somewhat muted. Mildly sour upfront. Lingering flavors of cocoa and chiles. Very prevelent honey like sweetness. Nice mouthfeel-quite smooth. Quite an interesting beer but the overall sweetness and melange of flavors can be a bit much. Sure it is good enough, but lacks a bit in the overall drinkability.

Photo of wedgie9
4/5  rDev +14%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Tasted from bottle purchased at Lush West Town. Pours dark clear amber with a smallish white head that leaves some lace on the outside of the glass. Aroma is green jalapeno, bitter chocolate, and a lot of coffee. This is a very unique beer. Flavor starts of with some sweetness and cocoa and moves to jalapeno and then bitter coffee. All of these flavors are very well balanced to create a very unique and delicious beer. The body is fairly heavy and coating with pretty light carbonation and a long finish that is both spicy (jalapeno), and bitter (coffee).

New Holland El Mole Ocho from New Holland Brewing Company
80 out of 100 based on 368 ratings.