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New Holland El Mole Ocho - New Holland Brewing Company

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358 Ratings
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Ratings: 358
Reviews: 152
rAvg: 3.52
pDev: 17.05%
Wants: 15
Gots: 21 | FT: 0
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New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Herbed / Spiced Beer |  9.79% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: alexgash on 04-04-2010)
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Photo of Cyberkedi
4.22/5  rDev +19.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Aroma is strong with an overtone of quality coffee and hints of cocoa, cinnamon and licorice. It pours a luscious semi-transparent mahogany brown with an average light tan head that leaves a fair amount of lacing. Flavor is malty with tones of coffee, cinnamon, caramel and licorice and a hint of powdery chocolate. Texture is smooth as soymilk yet has a firm tingle and a bit of edginess, as well as a subtle alcohol bite. Worthy!

Cyberkedi, Jan 29, 2011
Photo of htomsirveaux
3.83/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 oz. bottle tried 22 Aug 2010. Served in the (512) One snifter.

Small light brown head quickly dissipates. Medium carbonation. Clear light molasses in color. Aroma is sweet, cherries, chipotle, touch of chocolate. Flavor is lightly sweet chocolate, some cherries. The chile starts to come out in the middle and finish. Finish and aftertaste is just the right chocolate-chili sweet/hot combo. Medium body. Ethanol is warming.

What happened to the first seven mole beers?

htomsirveaux, Jan 23, 2011
Photo of weeare138
3.8/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appears a turbid dark with auburn highlights when held to the light. A small, off white head quickly settles into a gentle cap of fluff. Scattered streaks of lacing are left around the glass.
Smell is of spicy nutmeg, cocoa, roasted nuts, ripe fruit, and espresso.
Taste is of the aromas with a gentle hint of chili peppers pulling through the sweetness of the malt. Mild bit of herbal hops are found in the background with a toffee flavor opening up as the hops and heat mix through the palate.
Mouthfeel is medium bodied, warming, with steady carbonation.
Interesting beer! Thanks, Joel!

weeare138, Dec 29, 2010
Photo of silentjay
3.6/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

has the look of an english brown with a hazy brown body and an average beach sand colored head that sticks around for a bit and laces ok.

aroma definitely has some chili in it. some light cocoa, cigar smoke, and a bit of roast and smoked bbq. odd, but nice.

lots going on in the flavor (not unlike a traditional mole sauce), but it doesnt quite come together as seamlessly as one would hope. cocoa, toffe, smoke, chile peppers, cracked black pepper, mesquite spice, coffee. a bit darker roast and more bitter chocolate would have helped i think, but overall pretty tasty.

almost medium bodied with generous carbonation that may be too much for me.

drinks okay. with a little fine-tuning of the flavor mix, this could be a very good, unique brew. pretty good as is.

silentjay, Dec 29, 2010
Photo of TheSarge
4.18/5  rDev +18.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a decent crown of light tan head, but dissipates way too quickly. The body is brown/copper and has no haze.

In the aroma the malty cocoa aroma comes upfront, then a touch of vanilla, and in the end there's a kick of the chili.

Taste wise it's a vivid brew with a medly of flavors. Honey, caramel, toffee, vanilla, and chili in the end that lends this brew to it's spicy finish.

Feels medium to full in body, a little dry to the palate, and warms with a finish from the chili and alcohol.

TheSarge, Dec 17, 2010
Photo of JizackFH
3.75/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - This beer pours a dark ruby brown color. It has a small tan head that left decent lacing on the glass as it fell.

S - This one smells dark and roasty. There are hints of chipotle peppers, chocolate, toffee, booze, and coffee.

T - There is a malty sweetness and some roastiness. There is a slight peppery burn, but I was hoping for a little bit more. There is also a slight booziness that gives the finish a warming quality.

M - This has a surprisingly light body with medium carbonation. It was warming and pretty crisp.

D - This is a very interesting beer, and I'd say that it is pretty drinkable. It goes down quite easy. I was honestly hoping for a more peppery bite and stronger chocolate notes, but oh well. This is definitely a beer worth trying.

JizackFH, Dec 04, 2010
Photo of gnemesis
3.18/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

07/05/2010 poured into snifter. I always find it hard to review beers like this as there is no distinct style or any other beer to compare it too.
Pours a reddish brown topped by thin off-white head. I smell dark fruit, earth, maybe some caramel and some roasted malts.l The taste reveals some chocolate, fig, roasted malts, little hops. Medium to full body with good carbonation. Not terrible considering I don't taste mole (mole-ay not mole) but this isn't very drinkable. Super interesting try though.

gnemesis, Dec 03, 2010
Photo of ne0m00re
3.63/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Had a 22 oz bottle of this one yesterday thanks to my bro-in-law.
A: Ruby brown, nice one-finger tan head.
S: Bourbon-maple syrup, caramel, cigar molasses, and overall very sweet with green hops.
T: Spicy (remnants of pumpkin spice and cinnamon), maple syrup, almost chocolate caramel roast, with cigar, bright hops on the finish, and bourbon alcohol characteristics.
M: Creamy/syrupy/slightly sticky.
D: One glass is good.

ne0m00re, Nov 22, 2010
Photo of Spider889
2.45/5  rDev -30.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

On tap at Bodega. It's been there for weeks... I wonder why...

What a strange beer. To be honest, this was one where sheer morbid curiosity overcame me. At under $3 a glass during Bodega's happy hour I figured there was minimal risk. Though had they not run out of Breakfast Stout I'd have ignored this beer completely!

I can't even begin to remember all of the ingredients in this beer. I know there are many traditional mole ingredients: chocolate, chile peppers, coffee...

Looked inviting enough, dark but slightly clear. The color of weak, watery coffee. Slight tan colored head on it.

Smelled like coffee alright. Slightly sweet and some nice dark malts in there as well.

Flavor was all over the place. Sweet chocolate up front, followed by roasty malts. Then a very slight prickle of heat on the tongue, but it faded quickly before reaching the back of the throat. The chile is noticeable, but I would have liked a little more I think. Mild coffee flavors and more sweetness. There's some hop bitterness on the finish leaving behind a roasted, dry coffee aftertaste. Frankly the aftertaste was the only part of the flavor I liked. Everything was much too jumbled and odd for my liking.

I did not find this very drinkable. The third bad beer of the night at Bodega last Friday. Thank god for half off happy hour...

Spider889, Nov 02, 2010
Photo of Thorpe429
3.28/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed from notes.

Pours a moderately-dark amber color with a thin head. Nose brings some light chipotle peppers and a bit of might smoke. The taste is dried chili peppers, smoke, and a little roast. Light heat comes through. Interesting, but not all that tasty.

Thorpe429, Oct 29, 2010
Photo of Radome
3.5/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Served from a bomber bottle into a snifter.

A - Color is dark reddish brown and very clear. The head was initially off-white an made of large bubbles. It faded very quickly to just a ring around the glass.

S - The aroma is of dark, roasted, smoky chipotle peppers. It is pretty one-dimensional. It smells like it will be spicy. I don't get the chocolate overtones I expected from the mole.

T - The taste is a mix of malt, smoke and chili pepper burn. It is interesting, but not as interesting as the name and description made me hope.

M - The body is fairly light. No carbonation or alcohol burn.

D - This beer is one-dimensional based around a smoky chipotle pepper smell and taste. There really are no other characteristics that break past that one. Interesting but disappointing.

Radome, Oct 23, 2010
Photo of Haybeerman
3.38/5  rDev -4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: Red/amber color. Fizzy white head that dissipates quickly. No lacing.

S: Pepper and musty tomato aroma. Wet grains and burned wood. A bit of a floral character.

T: Sweet malts and wet grains. Burnt flavors to a building chili heat. Warming alcohol too. A little vegetable/tomato lingers; almost ashy aftertaste.

M: Light body. Moderate carbonation. There's just a lot going on in this beer on the heat side, I noticed little else.

D: Interesting for sure, but I really didn't like it. I almost didn't want to review it.

Haybeerman, Oct 05, 2010
Photo of brewdlyhooked13
3.18/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Appearance - reddish, almost magenta color to the amber brew. Soda pop bubbles fizzle away with no head formation whatsoever. A mostly naked top after just a few seconds.

Aroma - peppery, a hint of grain that smacks of tomato. Burnt wood, scorchy like. Intriguing. The bottle cap says 'floral'. Nothing doing along that line in *this* bottle.

Taste - malty sweet on the grain side. Definite peppery and slightly burnt flavors for a counter punch. Some abv heat to go alongside the chili heat. Some late grain roastiness. The chilies light up the grain, giving me that tomato, vegetal take. Warm and a little ashy on the aftertaste, not bad.

Mouthfeel - thin, crisp, light body. Meh.

Drinkability - interesting but not as good as I hoped it'd be. Could use more malt presence.

brewdlyhooked13, Oct 04, 2010
Photo of lackenhauser
3.75/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Your usual brown ale sort of beer-soft coppery color. Aroma is a mild mix of cocoa/jalapeno and somewhat boozy. A fair amount going on here though somewhat muted. Mildly sour upfront. Lingering flavors of cocoa and chiles. Very prevelent honey like sweetness. Nice mouthfeel-quite smooth. Quite an interesting beer but the overall sweetness and melange of flavors can be a bit much. Sure it is good enough, but lacks a bit in the overall drinkability.

lackenhauser, Oct 02, 2010
Photo of wedgie9
4/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Tasted from bottle purchased at Lush West Town. Pours dark clear amber with a smallish white head that leaves some lace on the outside of the glass. Aroma is green jalapeno, bitter chocolate, and a lot of coffee. This is a very unique beer. Flavor starts of with some sweetness and cocoa and moves to jalapeno and then bitter coffee. All of these flavors are very well balanced to create a very unique and delicious beer. The body is fairly heavy and coating with pretty light carbonation and a long finish that is both spicy (jalapeno), and bitter (coffee).

wedgie9, Sep 27, 2010
Photo of JToad
3.78/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into my Sam Adams perfect pint glass. Very little tan head, with decent lacing on the sides. Dark brown, with copper hues, almost the color of sweet tea.

Smells of toffee, candied fruit. Hints of chocolate.

Sweet candied fruit right away, barleywine-esque. Tobacco and peppers, with a bit of heat on the back end.

Mouthfeel is relatively viscous. Warms as it goes down.

The more I drink this, the more I enjoy it. Tastes stronger than 8.0%. Pretty complex brew all things considered. I would love to pair a nice spicy maduro with this, and really bring out the heat.

I think Ill pick this up again if I find it. New Holland is a very solid brewery.

JToad, Sep 27, 2010
Photo of Spica66
3/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

A: Dark ruby-brown, like a barleywine. Minimal head formation and lacing.

S: Very vinous and sweet with a strange hot/tart vibe.

T: Extremely surprising taste. Sweet like a barleywine then followed up with a slightly coffee/slightly chili pepper aftertaste.

M: Very smooth and creamy.

D: None of the three of us could finish our split due to the strangeness of the taste. It just became too overpowering(?).

Spica66, Sep 18, 2010
Photo of siradmiralnelson
3.6/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 22oz bottle into Tulip.

A. Poured a 1/2 finger head. Head didn't stick around too long. Not much lacing. Color is ruby brown.

S. Brown sugar, caramel malt, molasses. Big malt smells coming from this. Dont get a lot of chocolate, but there is some. Chocolate kind of comes and goes in hiffs. Smells almost like a barleywine. Not really any hop smell at all. Interesting smell.

T. Taste is not quite what the smell leads it on to be. Definitely more bitter. Taste is dark chocolate. Some alcohol. Bit of coffee bitterness. Some sweetness in the background from the malt. Interesting. Definitely better than the last New Holland beer I had.

M. Medium bodied. Medium/low carbonation.

D. Drinkable. Not my favorite beer by any means, but this is pretty unqiue in a good way. Taste takes on some of the more bitter dark chocoalate flavors, which some might prefer. Personally I like the sweeter chocolate flavors in beer.

siradmiralnelson, Sep 09, 2010
Photo of shivtim
3.48/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

An interesting beer. Had to try it.
Poured out into pint glasses and shared with two friends.

It's a deep brown, a bit hazy, with a thin lacy tan head. Looks ok. Nose is like a mild brown ale, with just a hint of spicy chili. Nice malt backbone. No hops detected.
Taste has a bit more of the chilis, and some chocolate. Subtle but nice. A more robust chocolate flavor develops on warming, countered by a lingering chili spiciness.

Decent mouthfeel, decent drinkability. Not fantastic, but worth a try.

shivtim, Aug 31, 2010
Photo of TheHoppiest
3.8/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22 oz bottle into an oversized snifter. Pours a ruby-brown with a tan head that quickly disperses to a ring around the glass.

Has a pungent malty-alcohol aroma, somewhat bready and yeasty, with hints of vanilla extract. The smell, frankly, is a little much.

Has a sweet spicy taste, chocolate, vanilla and toffee notes, an overall breadiness, and a smoother finish that the smell would lead you to expect. Some alcohol floavors ending with a touch of bitter.

Mouthfeel is smooth, almost creamy, with a slight sharpness at the end.

Pretty drinkable once you get past the in-your-face alcohol smell. I'd had this on tap before and it was served too cold. I recommend allowing it to warm before drinking.

TheHoppiest, Aug 27, 2010
Photo of bort11
3.93/5  rDev +11.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bottle poured into a wide mouth chalice. Not much head and lacing is very sparse. Body color is a hazy garnet. The initial pour is dirty looking, though clarity comes through as it settles. In all honesty, not much to look at.

Smell has a muted coffee aroma mixed with some chocolate malts. I was expecting more intensity. It is mellow and mild like many mole sauces. Also like many mole sauces, there is a slow burn from the chilies. At first it feels like it is just the carbonation, but then there is a little bite. It's not hot, just a bit bitey.

Mouthfeel is a little thinner than what I expected as well. There is still a strong medium body that has a malty stickiness. This is a subtle beer. The spices are not overwhelming. I would like to cook with this beer. I bet it would make a great base for a mole sauce.

bort11, Aug 19, 2010
Photo of spointon
3.8/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I had this one on tap at the Binny's South Loop store in Chicago. Served in a nonic pint glass.

A= This ale poured a deep red-brown color that reminded me of finely polished mahogany furniture. The head was a light tan in color and rose just 1/2" before settling to a thin dense cap. Some decent but not great lacing present.

S= Modest complexity of sweet darker malts, caramel, toffee, and some unidentifiable spices. Not much in the way of hops in the nose. Only a hint of pepper spiciness.

T= Wow, this was a tasty treat. The malt complexity is nice, showing a good range of sweetness and depth. The spice note and the pepper build slowly and peak just at the finish with a tingly sensation down the back of your tongue. Very nicely done.

M= Almost to the level of full bodied, with a creamy and chewy viscosity. Carbonation was medium and helped to keep this from feeling too thick.

D= Very drinkable despite the unusual ingredients. This I believe is accomplished through the brewer's avoidance of a heavy hand with these flavors. Nicely done!

spointon, Aug 10, 2010
Photo of Daniellobo
4.03/5  rDev +14.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Rich Ale with a distinct and nicely integrated Mole Poblano sense.

Presentation: 22 oz capped brown bottle. Simplistic label with the image of an old cooking pot over a brown background and yellow lettering. It is not awful but not particularly remarkable. Is this a new step away from the screen-printed big bottles? Hmmm... Back label offers a small narrative with the main intent and character of the brew, main characteristics, and food pairings. Notes vintage (2010), Plato (22), and Alc. by Vol. (8.0%) Served in a tulip glass.

A - Ruby brown, with a fair head, moderate retention and lacing with some surface memory.

S - Nose is rather subdued, pleasing but plain. Overall it has a faint Belgian Dark Ale sense to it with hints of fruity caramel.

T - Here is where the brew shines with a difference. Great malty character, with a marked caramel sense early on that opens the door to chocolate and light coffee touches, fruity notes that leave room to a nice range of chillies towards the finish with a lightly spicy riding the sweet finish.

M - Medium-full body with light but adequately tuned carbonation. Creamy and smooth finish, held up by the spicy touch.

D - Pleasing and stimulating serving.

Notes: Nice ale pivoting on its mole character... If one likes that touch this is certainly quite the brew. The nose is a bit of a letdown but flavor and the overall experience of brew pick it up entirely.

Daniellobo, Jul 29, 2010
Photo of donniecuffs
3.55/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Tried this at Savor 2010. Poured a mahogany color, with a thin off-white head, poor retention, and decent lacing. Smelled of chocolate, caramel, and earthiness, as well as pepper and other spices. Certainly tasted of cocoa powder mixed with leaves, with a spicy backbone that led to a peppery, lingering finish. Not as thick as I had expected this to be, but still full-bodied nonetheless, with modest carbonation. Decent spicy beer, but too unique to drink on its own; definitely needs to be paired with some suitably spicy chow.

donniecuffs, Jul 28, 2010
Photo of bruachan
3.95/5  rDev +12.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

some decent foam to start, but lacing doesn't happen. nice (brownish) red hue. no point for foam but the color is good and any peppers in this recipe probably would have killed retention anyway

very resiny and hot aroma to begin. sorta like dried chilis. nutty, burnt toast, vinegar

woah...generally new flavor set: heavily caramelized flavors up front--fruity. more, and richer, nuttiness. this definitely tastes of dried peppers. a little heat even gets through. some soft chocolate creeps to the finish, but nuttiness dominates. so does fruit, i must say. i wonder what the base beer is here, because i wouldn't expect so much driedfruitiness (cherries) to come from the mole. some, certainly, but not what i taste here. coffee wisps at the finish

my, what a curious beverage. i imagine some think it's a wash, but i find it a great project

bruachan, Jul 27, 2010
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