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New Holland El Mole Ocho - New Holland Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
80
good

327 Ratings
THE BROS
86
very good

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Ratings: 327
Reviews: 150
rAvg: 3.53
pDev: 16.71%
Wants: 11
Gots: 16 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Herbed / Spiced Beer |  9.79% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: alexgash on 04-04-2010)
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klewis

Ohio

3.53/5  rDev 0%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a light brown with a thin head. Cloudy with no lacing.

S: Chocolate and caramel with a light chile aroma.

T: Accurate in 'mole' description. Somewhat sweet with a light heat.

M: Medium-bodied with moderate carbonation. Wet and sticky.

D: Decent, but I wasn't as impressed as I expected. Great Divide's Chocolate Yeti is the way to go instead of this beer.

Serving type: bottle

07-09-2010 18:39:40 | More by klewis
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BEERchitect

Kentucky

3.55/5  rDev +0.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Why are these chili beers so appealing? Taking beer from standard barley and hop balance to chocolate and chili proves both challenging and compelling for me as well as the brewers.

Bold aromas of caramel and chocolate create the structure for the nose while the chili/vegital/peppery notes leap right off with a lot of zest and intrigue.

Deep copper to medium brown, the beer shows bright clarity below a very froathy off-white head that shows remarkable formation, retention, and lacing.

Base flavors seem to derive from an English Brown Ale (think Newcastle) but with much bolder caramel/toffee tastes as well as chocolate and rich nuttiness. With very low hop contributions, the beer relies on vibrant spices of cinnamon, nutmeg? and chili peppers for complexity, balance, and allure. Lightly vegital behind the chili flavor but doesn't detract from the drinkability.

Mediuum-sweet textures start the session but give way at mid-palate for a drying, warming, and fleeting malty finish. As the malt creaminess fades, the alcohol/chili warmth builds and eventually dominates the finish.

El Mole Ocho reminds me a lot of Theobroma but with a sweeter, more simplified maltiness thus allowing for greater separation from the chili and spice additions.

Serving type: on-tap

07-01-2010 16:52:11 | More by BEERchitect
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biggred1

Indiana

4/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Coffee colored with a creamy, mocha head that leaves some lace on the glass. Dark chocolate and fresh roasted coffee in the aroma with some chile spice notes. Honey, dark chocolate and warm spice with a coffee like bitterness in the finish. Alcohol is well hidden. Smooth with high carbonation. A really nice and different brew.

Serving type: bottle

06-23-2010 19:18:07 | More by biggred1
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Mora2000

Texas

4/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to blutt59 for sharing this bottle.

The beer pours a clear red-amber color with an off-white head. The aroma is heavy on the peppers with some earth, dirt and caramel malts. The flavor is fresh green peppers (jalapenos or serranos) with some coffee, chocolate, caramel and earthy hops. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. The overall flavor of this beer is kind of a mess, but I liked it. Definitely an interesting idea from the brewers at New Holland.

Serving type: bottle

06-23-2010 01:09:14 | More by Mora2000
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scruffwhor

Illinois

3.58/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours an orane pekoe tea and cola brown mix. Very little head after the pour and no foam with only bubble rising to the surface once and awhile.

A very foreign, spicey cocoa aroma hits my nostils. Add to that a smokey malt but also maybe a chipotle-like aroma as well.

The taste is a soft spice from smoked peppers. Then some syrupy cocoa adds some darker flavors and a little texture as well. The alcohol adds a punch of warmth that simmers through to the finish.

This is an interesting sipping beer that is best shared with open minded and palated drinking companions.

Serving type: bottle

06-22-2010 02:50:51 | More by scruffwhor
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organicbrewer

Pennsylvania

3.58/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Vintage 2010

A-Brilliantly clear brown with a low tan head.

S-melanoidins and chocolate. some jalapeno pepper. No hops. Slight ethanol aroma.

T-Malty and carmelly. Milk chocolate, almost like melted ice cream. Slight pepper heat in the back of my mouth (cayanne?). moderate bitterness, no hop flavor. Needs more heat to call itself a mole. Very good otherwise.

M-fairly dense, probably should have picked a cooler day to drink this. Moderate carbonation. No astringency, could use more heat.

D-Good beer (my fault I picked a hot day to drink this), nice balance between malty and chocolate. As I said earlier, this could use more heat. Otherwise it is just chocolate. Still very nice otherwise

Serving type: bottle

06-20-2010 02:15:07 | More by organicbrewer
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jpalarchio

Michigan

3.8/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a very deep red, very "Double Bastard-like" in color; crystal clear with minimal head.

Smell is difficult to identify and describe. Seems somewhat coffee like if I had to associate it to something.

Taste very much backs up the smell. It's good, I just can't put my finger on it.

Overall, probably couldn't handle more than 1-2 glasses of this. It's a speciality beer so I think that's to be expected.

Another quality brew from New Holland; worth trying for sure.

Serving type: bottle

06-19-2010 21:45:02 | More by jpalarchio
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beerthulhu

New Jersey

3.78/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: A deep burgundy red when held against the light revealed a fair clarity and a rapid, medium state of effervesce. The head was slight in statue, short in rentention, dirty cream in color while leaving random patches for a lacing.

S: The nose was malty with an alcohol spiciness of applesauce and nutmeg. A hefty dose of dry cocoa powder also figures into the mix. On the trail was as yeasty character of freshly cut apples and pears along with a close of wet coffee grounds, all which surprisingly worked well together.

T: The flavor starts off malty with a spicy alcohol and habanera pepper twang which brought some heat. Chocolate malts with strong cocoa influences meets a yeasty character of alcohol soaked apples and pears that provide a smooth and complimenting warmth to habanera chili pepper like twang. Sweet grains and dried maple syrup adds some sweetness and light moments to the mix before a warming of moderate proportions finishes things out. Overall warm, malty with a bit of habanera chili twang which all works surprisingly well together here.

M: Love the malty character as well the medium body that had an oily and fluid feel to it when swooshed around the tongue. Warming with a malty residual coating and a dry alcohol heat finishes things up on the swallow.

D: Overall drinkability was moderate, though found this to be quite interesting. Drank a bit warmer then expected from its 8.0% abv nature. A big interpretation of style ultimately subtracts a bit from drinkability.

Overall my best summary of this would be a double Vienna lager maltiness meets the fruitiness and alcohol content of a double bock meets the spicy twang of a chili beer (think rogue chipotle). Definitly doesnt drink like your typical herb/spiced beer which is a good thing.

Serving type: bottle

06-14-2010 23:10:39 | More by beerthulhu
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david131

California

3.45/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A- A clear, deep ruby red liquid with a very thin and splotchy white head.

S- Chocolate, very sweet caramel, and maybe a hint of hot peppers. Hard to place.

T- Chocolate, sweet caramel, raspberry jam, and just a tad bit of spice. Unique and sweet.

M- Smooth and undercarbonated. There is a lasting alcohol warmth at the end.

D- A unique beer that drinks fairly well. A bit sweet, but unique enough to be memorable.

Serving type: bottle

06-12-2010 01:05:17 | More by david131
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BMoney575

Texas

3.53/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Sampled on 6-11-10

Pours a cool blood red color with a filmy white head and almost no lacing.

Smell is sweet and fruity with a peppery edge. A little strange, the peppers add a hart to place earthy, spicy edge.

Taste is sweet and spicy, than the peepers come in. Earthy and slightly smoky, followed by a sweet and nicely bitter finish. The acidity is high, and simulates the pepper spice as it goes down.

Mouthfeel is a little thin, but the carbonation is low. Both add to the sweetness and seem to fit the earthy flavors.

Drinkability is decent, but the sweetness becomes old quickly.

Overall different and worth trying.

Serving type: bottle

06-12-2010 00:35:51 | More by BMoney575
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Katahdin

Pennsylvania

4.75/5  rDev +34.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Quite an interesting beer, not sure I've ever had anything similar. The aroma is very earthy like combination of bread and malts but the taste is very different from the aroma. taste has hints of Mexican Chile and Cayenne peppers but blends it with a lingering citrus flavor that balances out and ameliorates the spiciness so you get a smooth pleasant taste that lingers. Goes down very smooth especially for a big beer. Could drink this all night and not tire of it if it weren't for its big alcohol.

Serving type: on-tap

06-09-2010 18:32:20 | More by Katahdin
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drpimento

Wisconsin

4/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pretty good. Pretty much like they say except there's a notable mineral characteristic. Poured with a nice off white head and lots of lace. Color is a clear mahoganey. Aroma is cocoa malt mineral and a little ripe dark fruit. Flavor is like nose but a hint of the spice added, but not as much as expected. Body is good and ditto carbonation. Finish is decent and of medium lenght.

Serving type: bottle

06-09-2010 04:46:50 | More by drpimento
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farrago

New Jersey

3.98/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Close to a half finger of dark tan color, the bubbles don't seem that loosely knit but the head's gone in a few seconds, there is a little stickiness to the lacing though. Curiously, while the liquid is actually fairly clear, the grimy reddish-brown color more reminiscent of clay-based mud, more zinc orange hues brighten the rims. Huge jelly roll of milk chocolate, caramel and toffee dominates the nose, that said, cumin, paprika spices present along with a tiny pinch of cayenne pepper, these elements occluded by bodacious prune, plum, black grape, raisin, black cherry fruit scents, if you have the patience you might be able to get some charcoal dust and peat moss, overall the nose gets the "truth in advertising" award vis-à-vis the label. Full-bodied and close to heavy, the sheer mass of it pushes the carbonation off the tongue and outwards towards your cheeks. Oodles and oodles of chocolate, accompanied by butterscotch and caramel, could be sold in the candy aisle as much as the beer aisle. The "Mexican spiciness" gets sort of lost in the shuffle here, if anything more heat than flavor. Focus teases out orange citrus, granola and scone notes. This is a very enjoyable "sipper" that does not deviate much from the script, arguably for the best.

Serving type: bottle

06-09-2010 03:38:20 | More by farrago
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mdfb79

New York

3.28/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

From 5/21/10 notes. Had at a local DC tasting.

a - Pours a dark amber brown with a little bit of tan head.

s - Smells of sour and bready malts.

t - Taste of dark fruits, fruity and bready malts, and both sweet and spicy at the same time.

m - Medium body and high carbonation.

d - An ok spiced beer. Wasn't a big fan of the smell but the taste was interesting. Probably wouldn't seek out again.

Serving type: bottle

06-09-2010 03:08:55 | More by mdfb79
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branko7

Illinois

3.9/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A warm, reddish brown color. Mild head retention. Smells like sweet paprika. The taste is unlike any other beer I've had: starts a bit sweet, savory and peppery. Then into caramel and burnt malts (perhaps coffee). There's a bit of hops in the back. A complex and interesting taste. You can feel the alcohol, though it's not overpowering.

An interesting beer that I'd try again.

Serving type: bottle

06-09-2010 01:12:00 | More by branko7
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scottyshades

Florida

2.93/5  rDev -17%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

A: Pours a nice opaque mahogany color with a small khaki color head. Retention is OK.

S: Ehh...Strong notes of vinegar right off the bat. Lots of dark fruits in combination with Mexican spices. Chocolate is present too.

T: A big vinegar-like sourness comes through and seem to meet the spices and dark fruit in an interesting way. Lots of pepper(s), fig, prune, and chocolate (or cocoa powder). Interesting...

MF/D: Good feel to it, medium in body with a little viscosity, creamy going down. Sourness is a little distracting. Not sure if I will re-visit this one.

Serving type: bottle

06-07-2010 20:14:51 | More by scottyshades
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Sammy

Ontario (Canada)

3.7/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle at Mondiale 2010. Cloudy brown, with a little beige head, lacey. Some sourness, big mocha taste more than coffee. Good taste, would have liked even bolder chile flavour. Lots of lace drops. Above average mouthfeel. Not much aroma. Hidden a.b.v. Decent drinkability.

Serving type: bottle

06-04-2010 19:54:40 | More by Sammy
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branimal9

South Carolina

3.9/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at Barley's Greenville 5/28/2010.

Dark coppery-brown in color, with a small tan head. Smell has that mole aroma you would expect from the name - pepper, chocolate & other spices. Also picking up some estery-ness that I would associate with belgian yeast. Flavor is chocolate and a bit of steely flavor, coupled with peppery-heat bite on the finish. Creamy in texture. Not bad drinkability, despite its high ABV. An interesting and flavorful experience.

Serving type: on-tap

06-02-2010 00:31:25 | More by branimal9
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tavernjef

Minnesota

4.28/5  rDev +21.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Dark deep reddish rosey brown and clear with a nearly purple tone to it in most light. A medium smallish capping of dark ivory foam lifts slightly for a bit then slips down to some hair thin strings of lace.

Aroma is soft and supple with a dark fruity waft that's more of a mix of things then a few things sticking out and dominating. It's purple grapey, pear, pruney, cranberry, darkly nutty, juicy sweet, and altogether not all that beery, but just barely has that caption of what could be considered more of something like a malt beverage?
That said I still like it as it reminds me of some of the English Browns and Old Ales out there.

Taste is moderately sweet, dark, and rounded in a complex medley of mixing flavors. Again, much like the smell, it has no real distinguishing flavors that stand out on their own. Like eating a Holiday fruit bread? Darkly sweet and semi bready with tiny nuances of prune, mango, and fig tang, ever so slight sourness of cranberry and dark grapes. Some pear and golden raisin sink in with bigger vanilla making an appearance late. A small tone of chocolate(cocoa), molasses, and more of the vanilla kind of wrap it all together into a warming rummy-like girth. Uniquely warm aand kind of spicy with a very low toned pepperyness.

Body is bold, smooth, darkly soft with tang and fruit juicyness and fairly girthy as it reaches into some warming booozyness of what I assume is a whole lot of malts. Has a certain low ended bite of carbonation upon midway that helps create some eagerness way in back of the palate.

Its a very good sipper with a whole lot of complexity to it. Subtle. Wholesome. Unique. Yum!
I quite liked it. Something to really sit back with and explore. Doppelbock meets English Barleywine spiced with milding chili peppers. New Holland has a winner here with its High Gravity Series. Looking forward to seeing what's next in this series...

Serving type: bottle

06-02-2010 00:11:05 | More by tavernjef
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Bung

Michigan

3.88/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22 oz. Lighter brown amber pour of sorts. Just a thin layer of off white head.

Aroma certainly has the cocoa. A spiciness to it as well.

Very chocolatey flavors. Some vegetal peat and leather like just barely there. Also just a hint of smoked pepper, more so in the finish and in the throat.

It just a bit sweet, so I'm not sure how much I would really want to drink of this. But it goes down easy and smooth.

Really quite interesting and worth trying.

Serving type: bottle

05-31-2010 04:52:58 | More by Bung
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crusian

Oregon

4/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

bought a bottle of this in Kentucky after trying it on draught at the Party Store. aroma has chilis and nuttiness, actually aroma smells like it is a sour. pours with a nice light brown head. nice dark brownish red in color taste is very interesting. Can't say I dont like it. It is very good. Not anything like I was imagining. Very smooth, very very smooth. taste of nuts and a hint of chocolate and coffee. has a wee bit of chili heat at the finish. Chili spice becomes more pronounced as it warms. I really like this. way to go new holland, way to push to somethign new, and come out so well!

Serving type: bottle

05-29-2010 21:05:29 | More by crusian
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bluejacket74

Ohio

3.18/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

22 ounce bottle. Served in a nonic pint glass, the beer pours a clearish ruby red/brown color with about a half inch off-white head. Head retention and lacing are both low. Aroma is nice, but light. The beer smells like chocolate, cherries, and some chilies. Taste is similar to the aroma, but with the addition of a bit of coffee and raisins. The spice gets slightly stronger as the beer warms, but even then the spice flavor isn't really strong. I don't think the flavors mesh together very well, for whatever reason I just don't care for the taste of this brew. Mouthfeel/body is light/medium, it's a bit coating but also seems thin at times. Drinkability is decent, it's smooth and not hard to drink at all. I don't think this is a bad beer, but I didn't exactly think it was good either. It's worth trying once, but I don't think I'd buy this again.

Serving type: bottle

05-28-2010 22:33:41 | More by bluejacket74
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glid02

Georgia

3.93/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by Dan - thanks!

Pours a dark brown color with a half-finger tan head. The head recedes into a wispy layer on top leaving light lacing.

Smells of dark caramel and lightly roasted malts with good amounts of dark chocolate and cocoa powder. Also present are mild amounts of indistinct dark fruits and some chilli heat.

Tastes similar to how it smells. Sweet caramel malt flavors with hints of roastiness kick things off. Joining in shortly thereafter are strong dark chocolate flavors that carry through to a solidly bitter finish. A light amount of heat comes in after the ending to linger on the palate but it's relatively light.

Mouthfeel is OK. It's a bit on the light side with moderate carbonation.

Drinkability is good. I finished my glass without any problems and could have another.

Overall this is an interesting concept but unfortunately I didn't think the flavors were quite crisp enough to completely pull it off. Still, it's worth a shot to see for yourself.

Serving type: bottle

05-28-2010 02:40:08 | More by glid02
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cokes

Wisconsin

4.28/5  rDev +21.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Dark ruby-brown with a moderate beige dome which lasts a but and lays down some lace.
Caramel-chocolate confection nose, with a dash of earthy chili pepper within a sweeter vanilla latte sense of cream and coffee. Some rum-like, molasses-y booze as well. In other words, despite the peppers, this is very sweet and malty.
The mouth is glazed first with vanilla-tinged caramel. Some dark fruits venture in...date, fig, raisin... These are evaporated but the mocha java notion that comes next. Peppers begin around midway, and are sporadic. Light beams of fleshy, earthy, spiciness. It tails off towards brown sugar, molasses and anise, with lingering dark cocoa. Hopping is low, but brings a light grassy bitterness. Alcohol is not low, but not overinflated. Some Brandy or Rum notions appear just prior to the swallow.
Fullish bodied with a steady, minor carbonation. This should be cloying, but it's not, as the small amount of bubbles allow things to gather a bit, but ultimately wash them away.
I've had the bottle and tap versions, and I'd say the tap was a subtly but notable better. If your ready for a malt bomb, this is quite drinkable.
It's a bit refreshing to sampler a beer that is "flavor-oriented" and have it still taste like beer, with beer traits encompassing the intended flavor profile, and leaving the spices and adjuncts as auxiliary. This isn't marinade, it's still beer. And delicious beer. Maybe New Holland can send a rep to Southern Tier to show them how something like this can be pulled off deftly.

Serving type: on-tap

05-27-2010 09:04:31 | More by cokes
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jrallen34

Illinois

3.53/5  rDev 0%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I had this on tap at Bad Apple. A dark amber color but very clear with a tan head, kind of watery, not much retention or lacing...The aroma is nice and balanced with smoke and spice, really makes me hungry. The taste doesn't really live up to the aroma, but its ok. Gives you the smoke and spice, but a little too spicy for me. Light feel, not a beer you can drink a ton of.

Serving type: on-tap

05-26-2010 20:07:27 | More by jrallen34
New Holland El Mole Ocho from New Holland Brewing Company
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