New Holland Envious - New Holland Brewing Company

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Ratings: 255
Reviews: 113
rAvg: 3.26
pDev: 20.25%
Wants: 4
Gots: 28 | FT: 2
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Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Fruit / Vegetable Beer |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: drabmuh on 04-07-2010

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Reviews by Zraly:
Photo of Zraly
3.7/5  rDev +13.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

2012 Vintage

Pours dark ruby with an off-tan head. Used an Allagash glass. Reasonable clarity considering the darkness of the beer.Predominate note is raspberries. Maintained in a cool, dark closet.

Pears are subdued, which is likely a good thing. Raspberries present toward the back-end and the finish is fairly dry and a touch tart. Oak is also subtle but helps round out the fruit flavors. Light to medium bodied and a bit deceiving in terms of ABV. The raspberry note tastes surprisingly fresh given that this has been aged for about a year. However I did expect the mouthfeel to be a bit fuller and have some heft to it. On the other hand, this makes for easy drinking if you like the taste of raspberries!

I didn't pick up much on the pear -- I'm not sure if this was used purely for an alcohol boost or for an actual flavor. I think this ale is relatively solid and I don't quite get the general dislike of it. I agree that it is not true to one conventional style but is that cause for low ratings? I imagine if we had to pay $30 for a bottle of it the average rating would jump by a significant number of points. Just saying.

Interesting beer to try and would have made a decent brunch beer.

More User Reviews:
Photo of MadScientist
3.98/5  rDev +22.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A 2012 vintage that I picked up at the brew pub.

a: This pours a very clear dark amber with highlights of read and purple. The light tan head slowly dissipates to a thick ring with rafts of bubble floating around the glass.

s: This one smells moderately of pear, malt then some raspberries and slight touch of oak with an light alcohol aroma.

t: Medium raspberry tartness and flavor come through on the first sip with a bit of the pear fruitiness. There is a low bitterness but the tartness is stronger. There are moderately-low malt flavors of carmel and toast. There is also some sweetness but the balance is a bit more towards the tart and bitterness having an off-dry finish.

m: Soft and smooth on the palate with a medium body and moderate carbonation. There is a slight tingle on the tongue that seems CO2 and oak derived.

o: The fruit and the oak each getting to play their part in this beer while resolving harmonious, well balanced beer.

Photo of brownbeer
2.3/5  rDev -29.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

Pours like a flat coke. Brown.

Aroma has some rancid, rotten fruit notes (raspberry, red grapes). Alcohol is present. Maybe some wood. Not appealing. It smells like it's trying and failing miserably.

The taste is similar to semi-rotten plums with a certain raspberry sharpness that isn't very welcome. The taste is all over the place and is just a mess. Thin, watery body, low carbonation.

This is a weak offering from an otherwise ok brewery. The label description is misleading and I couldn't recommend this to anyone. Any of it is too much for me.

Photo of rhoadsrage
4/5  rDev +22.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

(Served in a chalice)
A- This beer pours a deep brown body with a creamy beige thick film of head. There is a light carbonation of big bubbles gliding up the glass.
S- The deep full aroma of raspberries is followed by a berry leaves and woody finish.
T- This beer has a mellow brown malt flavor with a raspberry note and some oaky flavors with fruity notes in the finish. There are faint pear flavors as it warms and a overipe fruit flavor grows in the finish.
M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with a soft fizzy in the finish and no alcohol heat noted.
D- The fruity flavors get a bit syrupy but it is a nice mix of pear and raspberry flavors with the brown malt and more subtle fruity esters. This beer has some nice dubble qualities.

Photo of Brenden
3.62/5  rDev +11%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The color is a somehwat murky brown that clears up a bit in the light. A small tan head fades to a pretty strong foam after showing moderate retention. Lacing is likewise moderate.
I don't think I've run into a mix quite like this one. The nose is a collaboration between coffee, fig, fruits and chocolate with a wood/smoke element. Malts hold on pretty strongly throughout.
Intersting is the word here. This is well brewed, but curious. I really do wonder if this is just sort of a novelty mix-up. More cocoa, coffee and figs are showcased than fruit, though citrus does certianly kick in with a touch of sweetness that avoids being overdone easily but adds an offputting tanginess in conjunction with the woodsmoke coming in underneath. A nutty flavor pull through in the finish, which also features a lingering mix of grains and lighter fruits.
The mouthfeel is a little on the thinner side, though malts provide a bit of sturdiness to a light body. Each sip does begin with some crispness that smooths out in the finish.
This is an interesting beer, though not the way one might expect a fruit beer to be put together. Kudos for being different, but I think usually fruit beers are built on a lighter ale base being things just mingle together and balance better.

Photo of Magpie14
2.48/5  rDev -23.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Part of a cellar series at New Holland an "ale aged on oak and fruit."

A: a hearty maroon and crimson color makes up the bulk of color with burnt orange filling in the edges. A mere thin ring of butterscotch foam hugs the glass. Pretty lifeless in the glass and no lace, well maybe a few blobs

S: the nose gathers mild fruits (raspberries, cherries, and maybe a plum) and not much else. Noting oak about it and the smells are getting thinner and thinner

T: what a disappointment. The palate is filled with watery grains, timid fruits (from concentrate flavor), and slight vinous notes with maybe a splinter of oak and apples showing. Some crushed aspirin in the finish. Mild astringency rounds out a very unsophisticated beer.
I thought this would compliment the sunny day nicely...nope

M: this is probably the best category yet. Pretty smooth and kinda soft on the tongue. A smidgen on the sticky side followed by a slap of light carbonation. Pretty light body overall, imagine a carbonated vino

D: New Holland has been shaky at best over the past few years. I have not been impressed by many of the releases or specialty beers recently. This is compounded by the mediocre mainstays

For the style this brew is maybe cool...but it is not my style, nothing to get floored about

Photo of Sammy
3.65/5  rDev +12%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Interesting fruit beer. After the hole mix settles, getting the raspberry aroma, and dark reddish colour. Active carbonation. Some white winish taste in secondary. Big mouthfeel, not for everybody. A sipper in terms of drinkability.Some oak there. Balanced bitter, sugar and malt. Needs to line up on sour and bitter side.

Photo of NeroFiddled
4/5  rDev +22.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

New Holland Envious Vintage 2010 - roughly a year old.

Steadily poured, New Hollands Envious brought up a short head of creamy yellowed-tan foam. A rougher pour didn't fare much better. Knowing that this is a beer clean glass (that just held a massive head and beautiful rings of lace for a prior beer), I have to see this as a bit of a defect. The head retention is almost non-existent, and it drops immediately to a standard collar. Lacing is very minimal, and only left with each new sip. Beyond that, the body is an attractive, clear ruby-mahogany.

The aroma is malty, and it delivers a bit of the fruit promised on the label (pears and raspberry), as well as some oak and a little whiff of alcohol (heat, some coconut & papaya/mango). The fruitiness is not pronounced, nor is it specific, and most tasters will probably just pass it over, focusing more on the caramel and chocolate of the malt until it warms to room temperature and levels out. At that point, however, some Bourbon character also becomes noticeable, which is interesting (is that the source of the coconut I was finding?).

In the mouth it's supple and smooth, with a restrained carbonation and medium-full body. Perhaps that's the trade off for a limited head? Duly noted, and quite possibly to the betterment of the beer all around.

The flavor delivers more fruit than the nose suggests, and the first sip displays a delicate blend of soft, cocoa-dusted malt and fruit. It's initially more like pear with a little bit of that slightly grating flavor and tartness that pear has, but the raspberry appears across the middle as it warms, and then becomes even more clear in the finish. That's not to say that the fruitiness is bold, as it's certainly not, and I don't think anyone would consider this a fruit beer had they been given it to taste "blind"; the blend of malt and oak and alcohol dominate it too much for that. That said, however, the fruit really does enhance what I might otherwise consider an "old ale", and I find it quite interesting. I'd like to say it was delicate as well, because the flavor components mingle with each other so nicely, except that the alcohol stands out. A minor bit is fine, and although I don't want to find it in the aroma, I think a little bit in the flavor helps to round it and give it balance. That would be expected in an "old ale". It's a little more present than that, however, most likely due to the secondary fermentation of the pear juice.

In conclusion, I have to give New Holland credit for this one. It's unique. It's interesting. And it's fairly well-done given the process that it goes through. I see it as a special occasion beer, fitting in well with holiday dinners or specialty meals; and I think the suggestion of pairing it with grilled stone fruits on the label is brilliant (those and a buttery, earthy, ripe soft cheese and crusty bread would be magnificent!). On the other hand, I haven't tasted it fresh, and perhaps aging has done wonders for it. I'll never know.

Photo of zaphodchak
3.8/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Ruby body with one finger of tan-white head and fancy lacing.

Nose is *chewy*-- toffee and powerful raisiny taste: smells like a barleywine.

Taste is remarkably subtle. The nose was preparing me for something off the wall, but the taste has a backbone of pear, which is quite mild. Significant malt, but ultimately this was nowhere near as strong-tasting as I expected. Fruity but not obnoxiously so. Lingering aftertaste of... red wine? May smell like a barleywine, but doesn't taste like one. Faint hops, but they don't quite clean up the finish. The oaking is perceptible but only barely.

Mouthfeel is quite nice, and this is a dealmaker because otherwise it could easily taste like flat cola.

It's nice, but nowhere near the price point, and not as good as I would've expected from New Holland after how awesome their High Gravity series was.

Photo of nickd717
2.8/5  rDev -14.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle shared by someone at a tasting.

Pours medium brown with slight purplish hues to it and a small light beige head.

The aroma is decent, with blackberries, sweet malt notes, and apple.

The flavor is simple, all right but no flavors that really blow you away. Mildly tart and mildly sweet with blackberry, oak, green apple and other light fruits.

Medium-bodied with medium-high carbonation.

Decent overall, but should be better given that it touched wood.

Photo of russpowell
3.32/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

2012 vintage pours chestnut with thin tan head. Average head retention & lacing

S: Cherry juice, figs

T: Follows the nose, some baker's chocolate hidden underneath up front along with raspberry. Raspberry tartness as this warms, some oaky woody notes as well, a bit of black cherry as this warms. Fishes with cherry juice, a touch of dryness & a bit of raspberry & figs

MF: Light bodied with some what annoying dryness, subtle carbonation, really needs a bit more to push the flavors on show.

An alright fruit beer but not one I would seek out again. New Holland has generated more disappointments than hits for me, they aren't punching up to the weight of most of the Michigan beers I've tried. I really don't see this getting better with age,,,

Photo of alleykatking
3.2/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured from 22oz bottle.

A- Poured a brownish purple reddish color. One finger white head that dies down within a minute or so. Spotty lacing on the sides of the glass.

S- Such a odd aroma. Raspberries are the biggest aroma with some light pear juice. Chocolate notes and some light musty aroma in the tail end as well.

T- Taste follows the aroma pretty much as well. No real other flavors jump up besides the raspberries, pear, and chocolate.

M- Medium mouthfeel. Carbonation is a little on the weak side with this beer. Raspberry flavors jump out on the palate and well into the aftertaste. Flavor is a little one-sided.

D- This is one beer that is a little interesting. I am not sure if I am a big fan of this or not. It makes it feel like a watered down lambic. Looks like I'll be sticking a little bit of this in the cellar.

Photo of beerthulhu
3.25/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

- Ale brewed with pear juice, raspberries aged in oak.

A: Cola pour with red brick highlights glisten from the light upon exit. Dense black coloring with a khaki head that was slight in statue and short in stay. A good rate of carbonation bubbles are seen creeping up the vessel edges. Sloppy thin lace.

S: Black raspberries are dominant, both tart and sweet notes mingle. Average strength at first the aroma doesn’t hold long, limited in complexity smelling of an average raspberry fruit beer. Expected a bit more from the aroma level, dark malts and complexity.

T: Sweet and tart blackberry notes upfront are quickly consumed by a dry berry bitterness. Wine like palate, the dark malts hide the pear juice which does happen to appear in small flashes with long sips and hold. Smooth flavor, again as with the nose holds little surprise and complexity but is well rounded and clean. A bit of tartness occurs on the swallow.

M: Tightly bubbly carbonation, strong body, wine like berry alcohol fuels the mouthful.

O: Not sure how envious people would be of missing out on this. An average fruit beer experience I expected more from. Really smooth, sweet and tart, clean, don’t know how the aging would affect this but in the end brought little excitement to the table and is one easily forgotten.

Photo of hippityhops85
1.94/5  rDev -40.5%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 1 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Presentation: 22 oz bottle with just Vintage 2010 printed on the label. Really a beautiful bottle.

Poured a murky, muddle brown. Not attractive.

The nose was the least offensive part of this beer: ripe fruits, some bitter chocolate

The taste on this beer was absolutely horrid. Rotten fruit mixed with tobacco and cardboard.

Mouth feel didn't help the situation as the carbonation was so low it couldn't pull any of the off-flavors from my tongue.

I hate to say this but this beer was a drain pour. New Holland produces some fantastic beers, this just happens to not be one.

Photo of bluejacket74
3.97/5  rDev +21.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 ounce bottle, vintage 2011. This has been sitting in the back of my fridge for a while now, so I figured I might as well drink it today. Served in a flute, the beer pours a reddish/brown color with an inch tan head. The head stays around for a little while, and there's a small amount of lacing. Aroma is malty and fruity, the brew smells like dark fruit, raspberries, pears, caramel, chocolate and a bit of oak. It tastes like dark fruit (raisins, plums), chocolate, caramel, pears, and some oak and raspberry. I certainly didn't expect the chocolate in either the aroma or taste of this brew, I was thinking this was going to be a little more tart (like the back label says), but I don't think this brew is tart at all. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's a bit creamy and coating with moderate carbonation. I think this is a good overall brew. It's not quite what I expected, but the more I drank it, the more I ended up liking it. I'll have to pick up another bottle the next time I see it again.

Photo of Aguirre
4/5  rDev +22.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I was surprised to see such poor reviews of this beer, I had a glass on tap yesterday and really liked it. I know things can taste different out of the bottle, but this was a tasty draught.

Beer poured a nice brown, with a reddish-purplish head. Smell was brown sugar and some raspberries.

Taste wasn't nearly as tart as I expected (the bartender said it was a sour's certainly not). There's a nice interplay between the sweetness and the tartness, and the fruit is present but not overpowering. The oak adds a nice finish too.

Not a bad beer at all, I really enjoyed this. For $8 for a pour, I think there are better choices, but a good beer, at least out of a keg.

Photo of BierFan
3.65/5  rDev +12%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 22 ounce bottle into a cervoise.

Appearance: Fizzy tan head on a clear dark red body. Low carbonation.

Smell: Mostly raspberries and cherry. A little oak.

Taste: Like somebody mixed Short's Soft Parade with a barrel aged American wild ale. Cherry and oak. Pretty dry. Not as sweet as the smell made me believe it would be. The oak gives it a nice earthy aftertaste.

Photo of HoneyLamb
2.43/5  rDev -25.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Purchased 22 ounce bottle directly from New Holland Brewing Company Bar last month. Bottle was of 2011 vintage.

Poured into a tall pilsner glass. Achieved good 1-1/2 finger head with a medium hard pour. Nice amber color.

Smelled sweet and sweet was what I was in the mood for but the taste was sweeter than expected, and taste combinations did not work for me at all. I could taste the oak, but it was overwhelmed by incompatible pear and raspberry. It seemed to have a chocolaty after taste. It was just too much for me and my pallet. I couldn't finish it. I've had sweet beers before that tasted better with age, but I didn't buy two bottles, and I won't buy another one to try it again.

Photo of Preismj
3.15/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

a: murky looking purple/brown with a lot of head that looks more like soda fizz than anything else

s: smells of pear and grape are hardly at the front...the rest smells like boozy water. There isn't a lot going on here and once the initial smell of fruit fades, what is left is a bread-like mess

t: the fruit flavors are clashing here and taste like date/fig/raisin. pretty good actually, but not the flavor I was expecting. almost came off as a type of chocolate too...however the carbonation is way to high and ruins the overall taste. The flavor is there, but the fizz makes it a miss

m: too fizzy, medium body and little coating. Would have like it to stick around longer with less popping bubble feel in my mouth.

o: the flavors are clashing but don't make for a totally unpleasant experience. However, the extreme level of carbonation really wrecked the flavor profile here. It was like someone mixed Coke and Wine to get this...a fizzy fruity mess.

Photo of jmarsh123
2.13/5  rDev -34.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

Pours very deep brown with a one finger white head with decent retention and great lacing.

Smells like fresh raspberries with a little bit of blackberry. Somewhat of an artificial smelling sweetness though.

Flavor has some berry sweetness upfront but really just tastes like prune juice.

Very light mouthfeel and pretty flat increasing the likelihood I'm actually drinking prune juice.

I like the idea, but this one falls considerably short for me. Ends up being too thin and there are a few off flavors here. The prune metallic aftertaste lingers on the tongue which in this case is not a good thing.

Photo of peabody
3.85/5  rDev +18.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours out a nice root beer color with one finger of off-white suds.
Smell is malt and raspberry. I don't really get the pear here or in the tasting.
Taste is sugary charred malts and raspberry with just a hint of oak sourness.
Mouthfeel is clean for the most part then sticky sugars leave a sweet and sour flavor behind.
Drinkability is ok as you cannot taste or smell the 7.5% abv. I would like this to be a little more sour but all in all it's a good try from New Holland.

Photo of Bierguy5
4/5  rDev +22.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap, pours a mahogany color with some ruby edges. Only a thin ring shows at the top, no lace.

Great fruity aroma up front, pears, dark cherries and ripe apples. A nice background of wood. A small funky note, and a musty feel.

Starts out dry. Some dark cherry flavor without sweetness. A bit earthy. Some nice oak flavor, but not overwhelming.

Lighter body with very light carbonation. Alcohol is well hidden. Very nice beer.

Photo of eclaycamp
2.57/5  rDev -21.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Picked this up at Gomer's on a trip where I was looking for another beer. Still, I was intrigued by the label, including the blurb about it being aged on pear juice, so I figured I would check it out. I'm using my snifter for this one. Color is dark. With the addition of pear I was expecting a golden color but this thing is a dark mahogany. Somewhat murky clarity and no real head. The nose tries to be complex but it comes across as a little bit murky. There's raspberries there, as well as some dark chocolate notes. I get some of the oak character as well. Taste is ... interesting. Not what I was expecting at all. Based on the color, I was expecting this to resemble something like a Belgian dubbel, but that's not the case at all. Like the aroma, the taste is kind of murky. There's some raspberry characteristics. Doesn't taste like it smells at all. All in all, it falls ... flat. It's malty. Minor layers of oak and raspberries, but they are very muted. Maybe I need to let the beer warm up longer. As it warms I get some dark fruits - mainly prunes, maybe some apple. Swirling it around in my mouth I get a light vomit flavor. Uh. Meh. Carbonation falls flat as well - there's none to speak of. Likewise, there's no body to this thing. Any type of carbonation would help, but my glass is just ... sitting there doing nothing. Surprisingly, there's no alcohol warming present, which is something you might expect with a beer that's recommended for cellaring. I can see why New Holland earmarked this for cellaring. There's just nothing there - maybe they're expecting it to improve over time. Kudos for defying my expectations with the beer, though it needs some work. I kind of wish I had bought two bottles so I could compare them in a year.

Photo of buschbeer
3.11/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

1 PINT 6 FL. OZ. bottle
Served in a conical pint glass
2012 vintage

A - It pours light brown to dark amber in color. The head is very short lived and tan in color.

S - The smell is sweet and syrupy. The raspberries are noticeable. It smells like a sweet mess.

T - The taste isn't much better. The pear is more noticeable in the taste where it was lacking in the smell. It leaves a burnt caramel aftertaste.

M - Moderate and smooth.

O - The aftertaste makes this beer rough. The burnt component is not pleasant. The initial taste is not a whole lot better. It was probably a good idea to retire this beer. It was a nice idea, but ideas don't always make a good beer.

Photo of metter98
3.25/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

A: The beer is clear dark reddish brown in color. It poured with a short off white head that quickly died down, leaving a thin collar around the edge of the glass.
S: Light to moderate aromas of raspberries and dark malts are present in the nose-as the beer warms up, pears also become noticeable.
T: The taste is similar to the smell, except that flavors of dark malts are also noticeable. Neither sweetness nor tartness is present.
M: It feels light- to medium-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer is rather malty for a fruit beer and tastes like it has some off flavors, as the malts don't seem to mesh well with the fruit.

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New Holland Envious from New Holland Brewing Company
75 out of 100 based on 255 ratings.