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New Holland Envious - New Holland Brewing Company

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242 Ratings
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Ratings: 242
Reviews: 111
rAvg: 3.26
pDev: 20.55%
Wants: 3
Gots: 27 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Fruit / Vegetable Beer |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: drabmuh on 04-07-2010)
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Reviews by tabooky:
Photo of tabooky
3.7/5  rDev +13.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

22 oz bottle poured into imperial pint glass. Dark amber approaching brown. Tan head followed by clinging lace. Nice looking beer.

Smell is dark malts and toffee similar to a brown ale but sweeter and more complex. There’s a medley of dark fermented fruit. Just enough fruity sharpness to liven it up.

Taste is sweet caramel malts with dark fruit at first, but balanced by a moderate tartness that’s hard to define. I don’t taste pear or raspberry, they’ve morphed into that lively tartness. Twinge of sweetly acidic quality hits the sides of the tongue . Dryness on the finish with sweetness still on the lips.

Pretty damn good, not outstanding. To me this is like a very mild brown ale with additional layers of fresh and fermented fruit complexity. I’d certainly drink it again, probably buy it again, but didn’t make my must-have list.

tabooky, Dec 18, 2012
More User Reviews:
Photo of MadScientist
4/5  rDev +22.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A 2012 vintage that I picked up at the brew pub.

a: This pours a very clear dark amber with highlights of read and purple. The light tan head slowly dissipates to a thick ring with rafts of bubble floating around the glass.

s: This one smells moderately of pear, malt then some raspberries and slight touch of oak with an light alcohol aroma.

t: Medium raspberry tartness and flavor come through on the first sip with a bit of the pear fruitiness. There is a low bitterness but the tartness is stronger. There are moderately-low malt flavors of carmel and toast. There is also some sweetness but the balance is a bit more towards the tart and bitterness having an off-dry finish.

m: Soft and smooth on the palate with a medium body and moderate carbonation. There is a slight tingle on the tongue that seems CO2 and oak derived.

o: The fruit and the oak each getting to play their part in this beer while resolving harmonious, well balanced beer.

MadScientist, Jul 25, 2012
Photo of brownbeer
2.3/5  rDev -29.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

Pours like a flat coke. Brown.

Aroma has some rancid, rotten fruit notes (raspberry, red grapes). Alcohol is present. Maybe some wood. Not appealing. It smells like it's trying and failing miserably.

The taste is similar to semi-rotten plums with a certain raspberry sharpness that isn't very welcome. The taste is all over the place and is just a mess. Thin, watery body, low carbonation.

This is a weak offering from an otherwise ok brewery. The label description is misleading and I couldn't recommend this to anyone. Any of it is too much for me.

brownbeer, May 01, 2010
Photo of heddar33
3/5  rDev -8%

heddar33, Sep 09, 2012
Photo of jaminjohnson
3.25/5  rDev -0.3%

jaminjohnson, Sep 23, 2012
Photo of rhoadsrage
4/5  rDev +22.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

(Served in a chalice)
A- This beer pours a deep brown body with a creamy beige thick film of head. There is a light carbonation of big bubbles gliding up the glass.
S- The deep full aroma of raspberries is followed by a berry leaves and woody finish.
T- This beer has a mellow brown malt flavor with a raspberry note and some oaky flavors with fruity notes in the finish. There are faint pear flavors as it warms and a overipe fruit flavor grows in the finish.
M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with a soft fizzy in the finish and no alcohol heat noted.
D- The fruity flavors get a bit syrupy but it is a nice mix of pear and raspberry flavors with the brown malt and more subtle fruity esters. This beer has some nice dubble qualities.

rhoadsrage, Jun 12, 2010
Photo of acurtis
2.75/5  rDev -15.6%

acurtis, Jun 16, 2012
Photo of Brenden
3.6/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The color is a somehwat murky brown that clears up a bit in the light. A small tan head fades to a pretty strong foam after showing moderate retention. Lacing is likewise moderate.
I don't think I've run into a mix quite like this one. The nose is a collaboration between coffee, fig, fruits and chocolate with a wood/smoke element. Malts hold on pretty strongly throughout.
Intersting is the word here. This is well brewed, but curious. I really do wonder if this is just sort of a novelty mix-up. More cocoa, coffee and figs are showcased than fruit, though citrus does certianly kick in with a touch of sweetness that avoids being overdone easily but adds an offputting tanginess in conjunction with the woodsmoke coming in underneath. A nutty flavor pull through in the finish, which also features a lingering mix of grains and lighter fruits.
The mouthfeel is a little on the thinner side, though malts provide a bit of sturdiness to a light body. Each sip does begin with some crispness that smooths out in the finish.
This is an interesting beer, though not the way one might expect a fruit beer to be put together. Kudos for being different, but I think usually fruit beers are built on a lighter ale base being things just mingle together and balance better.

Brenden, Apr 09, 2011
Photo of JasonSiedman
2.5/5  rDev -23.3%

JasonSiedman, Nov 02, 2012
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3.75/5  rDev +15%

DruC4, Jun 18, 2012
Photo of Magpie14
2.42/5  rDev -25.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Part of a cellar series at New Holland an "ale aged on oak and fruit."

A: a hearty maroon and crimson color makes up the bulk of color with burnt orange filling in the edges. A mere thin ring of butterscotch foam hugs the glass. Pretty lifeless in the glass and no lace, well maybe a few blobs

S: the nose gathers mild fruits (raspberries, cherries, and maybe a plum) and not much else. Noting oak about it and the smells are getting thinner and thinner

T: what a disappointment. The palate is filled with watery grains, timid fruits (from concentrate flavor), and slight vinous notes with maybe a splinter of oak and apples showing. Some crushed aspirin in the finish. Mild astringency rounds out a very unsophisticated beer.
I thought this would compliment the sunny day nicely...nope

M: this is probably the best category yet. Pretty smooth and kinda soft on the tongue. A smidgen on the sticky side followed by a slap of light carbonation. Pretty light body overall, imagine a carbonated vino

D: New Holland has been shaky at best over the past few years. I have not been impressed by many of the releases or specialty beers recently. This is compounded by the mediocre mainstays

For the style this brew is maybe cool...but it is not my style, nothing to get floored about

Magpie14, Apr 20, 2010
Photo of Sammy
3.63/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Interesting fruit beer. After the hole mix settles, getting the raspberry aroma, and dark reddish colour. Active carbonation. Some white winish taste in secondary. Big mouthfeel, not for everybody. A sipper in terms of drinkability.Some oak there. Balanced bitter, sugar and malt. Needs to line up on sour and bitter side.

Sammy, Apr 22, 2012
Photo of Beezee
4.5/5  rDev +38%

Beezee, Feb 25, 2012
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4/5  rDev +22.7%

danp14, Jul 18, 2012
Photo of NeroFiddled
4.03/5  rDev +23.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

New Holland Envious Vintage 2010 - roughly a year old.

Steadily poured, New Hollands Envious brought up a short head of creamy yellowed-tan foam. A rougher pour didn't fare much better. Knowing that this is a beer clean glass (that just held a massive head and beautiful rings of lace for a prior beer), I have to see this as a bit of a defect. The head retention is almost non-existent, and it drops immediately to a standard collar. Lacing is very minimal, and only left with each new sip. Beyond that, the body is an attractive, clear ruby-mahogany.

The aroma is malty, and it delivers a bit of the fruit promised on the label (pears and raspberry), as well as some oak and a little whiff of alcohol (heat, some coconut & papaya/mango). The fruitiness is not pronounced, nor is it specific, and most tasters will probably just pass it over, focusing more on the caramel and chocolate of the malt until it warms to room temperature and levels out. At that point, however, some Bourbon character also becomes noticeable, which is interesting (is that the source of the coconut I was finding?).

In the mouth it's supple and smooth, with a restrained carbonation and medium-full body. Perhaps that's the trade off for a limited head? Duly noted, and quite possibly to the betterment of the beer all around.

The flavor delivers more fruit than the nose suggests, and the first sip displays a delicate blend of soft, cocoa-dusted malt and fruit. It's initially more like pear with a little bit of that slightly grating flavor and tartness that pear has, but the raspberry appears across the middle as it warms, and then becomes even more clear in the finish. That's not to say that the fruitiness is bold, as it's certainly not, and I don't think anyone would consider this a fruit beer had they been given it to taste "blind"; the blend of malt and oak and alcohol dominate it too much for that. That said, however, the fruit really does enhance what I might otherwise consider an "old ale", and I find it quite interesting. I'd like to say it was delicate as well, because the flavor components mingle with each other so nicely, except that the alcohol stands out. A minor bit is fine, and although I don't want to find it in the aroma, I think a little bit in the flavor helps to round it and give it balance. That would be expected in an "old ale". It's a little more present than that, however, most likely due to the secondary fermentation of the pear juice.

In conclusion, I have to give New Holland credit for this one. It's unique. It's interesting. And it's fairly well-done given the process that it goes through. I see it as a special occasion beer, fitting in well with holiday dinners or specialty meals; and I think the suggestion of pairing it with grilled stone fruits on the label is brilliant (those and a buttery, earthy, ripe soft cheese and crusty bread would be magnificent!). On the other hand, I haven't tasted it fresh, and perhaps aging has done wonders for it. I'll never know.

NeroFiddled, Mar 21, 2011
Photo of zaphodchak
3.78/5  rDev +16%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Ruby body with one finger of tan-white head and fancy lacing.

Nose is *chewy*-- toffee and powerful raisiny taste: smells like a barleywine.

Taste is remarkably subtle. The nose was preparing me for something off the wall, but the taste has a backbone of pear, which is quite mild. Significant malt, but ultimately this was nowhere near as strong-tasting as I expected. Fruity but not obnoxiously so. Lingering aftertaste of... red wine? May smell like a barleywine, but doesn't taste like one. Faint hops, but they don't quite clean up the finish. The oaking is perceptible but only barely.

Mouthfeel is quite nice, and this is a dealmaker because otherwise it could easily taste like flat cola.

It's nice, but nowhere near the price point, and not as good as I would've expected from New Holland after how awesome their High Gravity series was.

zaphodchak, May 01, 2011
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1.75/5  rDev -46.3%

schmidtmattsays, Mar 01, 2014
Photo of leschkie
2/5  rDev -38.7%

leschkie, Feb 29, 2012
Photo of tclipse
2.88/5  rDev -11.7%

tclipse, Sep 22, 2014
Photo of ajaxivan
2.5/5  rDev -23.3%

ajaxivan, Mar 02, 2012
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3.5/5  rDev +7.4%

freewill35, Aug 24, 2012
Photo of nickd717
2.78/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle shared by someone at a tasting.

Pours medium brown with slight purplish hues to it and a small light beige head.

The aroma is decent, with blackberries, sweet malt notes, and apple.

The flavor is simple, all right but no flavors that really blow you away. Mildly tart and mildly sweet with blackberry, oak, green apple and other light fruits.

Medium-bodied with medium-high carbonation.

Decent overall, but should be better given that it touched wood.

nickd717, Oct 22, 2010
Photo of russpowell
3.33/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

2012 vintage pours chestnut with thin tan head. Average head retention & lacing

S: Cherry juice, figs

T: Follows the nose, some baker's chocolate hidden underneath up front along with raspberry. Raspberry tartness as this warms, some oaky woody notes as well, a bit of black cherry as this warms. Fishes with cherry juice, a touch of dryness & a bit of raspberry & figs

MF: Light bodied with some what annoying dryness, subtle carbonation, really needs a bit more to push the flavors on show.

An alright fruit beer but not one I would seek out again. New Holland has generated more disappointments than hits for me, they aren't punching up to the weight of most of the Michigan beers I've tried. I really don't see this getting better with age,,,

russpowell, Feb 06, 2012
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3/5  rDev -8%

Kegatron, Jun 23, 2014
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3/5  rDev -8%

Lanstrum, Jul 27, 2013
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New Holland Envious from New Holland Brewing Company
75 out of 100 based on 242 ratings.