New Holland Envious - New Holland Brewing Company

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75
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248 Ratings
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Ratings: 248
Reviews: 111
rAvg: 3.25
pDev: 20.62%
Wants: 4
Gots: 27 | FT: 3
Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Fruit / Vegetable Beer |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: drabmuh on 04-07-2010)
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4.33/5  rDev +33.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 oz bomber of the 2011 vintage courtesy of lackenhauser. Pours a surprisingly dark brown color with a nice cap of beige head. Decent retention and lacing.

Nose shows a bit of sweet, oxidized malt before diving head-first into a fruity delectable ménage-a-trois of pears, raspberries and figs. Very exciting and juicy.

Taste is nice and smoother than expected. I was a little concerned when it poured dark, I was wondering how pears would compete with dark malt and raspberries...but they manage to hold their own to my delight. I like the way the malt is dark, yet not overly bold...think how a dunkel compares to a stout. I half expected this beer to be some sort of sour when I saw that it had raspberries and pears, but that is not the case...and I actually think it makes the beer stand out from the crowd better. It is a fruit beer with a tasty balancing malt backdrop. I was pleasantly surprised by this beer...I really enjoyed the fact it is very unique, thanks Steve!

Photo of danielharper
4.33/5  rDev +33.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours deep ruby red with a thick brown head that dissipates quickly. Almost transparent, but with very slight sediment in the body. Aroma is sweet, fruity, lots of grapes and hints of citrus, maybe a touch of grapefruit? Rich bready qualities underneath, slight notes of yeast.

Flavor is sweet, syrupy, with a strong yeastiness up front. Lots of the aforementioned fruit, significant grape notes and some grapefruit, with a slight chocolate undertone that finishes with a somewhat tarty astringency. Amazingly complex flavor. Mouthfeel is thick, with low hoppiness and a heavy dose of carbonation.

Is this really a B- beer? Not on your life. It is, however, a beer that doesn't fit into an easily grasped style guideline, and asking beer geeks to appreciate fruit without providing some Belgian character to prep the tongue might be a bit of a risk on New Holland's part. I think this is fascinating, engrossing, and definitely worth a try for anyone willing to give it an open look.

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4.23/5  rDev +30.2%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2011 vintage.

Hazy unfiltered brown/purple body. Interesting.

Aroma of tootsie rolls, cherry licorish and figs.

Taste: Very malty. black raspberry notes. Not as sweet as I thought. Tastes like an american strong ale with very light real raspberry added. Pear, apple suggestions. Juicy but still dry - like a dry cabernet. Oak flavor lends complexity. Big time prune in the end. Very complex flavor. Excellent.

Extremely drinkable. Complexity really makes this beer.

Photo of josefnewsong
4.22/5  rDev +29.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Don't let the low average rating deter you, this beer is definitely worth a try, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

a - dark, almost black, but I'm pretty sure I picked up hints of purple (I was outside at night w/ low light conditions when I had it), with a thin rim of bubbly head.
s - fruity and malty with maybe a bit of roast behind...fruits aren't your typical dark fruit aromas.
t - as it smells, but better. Big fruit flavor (apple/pear along with grapes and maybe dates) that doesn't get old or become overbearing at all, backed with some slight hints of roast and bittersweet chocolate, slight oak. Not a huge full flavor, but instead a flavor that lends itself to drinkability. On the sweet side of course, but it's not a sugary/malty mess, there is definitely a well-balanced nature to the beer. Not a hint of alcohol. A very unique brew, like a fruit beer merged with a light porter.
m - light in body, smooth, with a tingle of carbonation. Very drinkable.
o - I was surprised at how good this beer was. Usually my opinions are pretty much on par with BA ratings, or at least close, but C+ is not the grade this beer deserves (I know, to each his own). Well-balanced, dark, light body, fruity but not sugary sweet, a nice amount of alcohol with very little alcohol able to be detected...what more could you want from a fruit beer? This one is only trumped by one or two other fruit beers for me (notably Sammy Smiths organic raspberry mmm)

There are a lot of comments a la "it doesn't really fit into any category"...ummm why is that a bad thing? Besides, "fruit beer" is an extremely general category. I could see if the label was misrepresenting the contents of the bottle that would be one thing, but if you read it you should pretty much get what you expect.

Photo of mrfrancis
4.2/5  rDev +29.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a dark fuchsia with a fizzy, quickly dissipating beige head. This looks like dessert in a glass.

S: Aromas of dark chocolate, oak, black raspberries, and pears fill the nose. I can already tell that this is going to be an extremely sweet beer, but I'm intrigued to say the least.

T: Notes of black raspberries, blackberries, blueberries, pears, and dark chocolate fill the mouth, but are quickly balanced by oak and roasted grain undertones. The finish is rich and sweet with pronounced notes of dark chocolate, oak, and raspberries.

M: Full bodied, smooth, and creamy. Carbonation is restrained.

O: I'm aware that this beer does not carry the highest rating in the world, and tends to be looked down on a bit. Still, I find this to be a delightful dessert beer and feel that it does not really get the credit it deserves. When compared to other beers of this type, Envious could be much worse. Try it with a good vanilla bean ice cream.

Photo of NeroFiddled
4.03/5  rDev +24%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

New Holland Envious Vintage 2010 - roughly a year old.

Steadily poured, New Hollands Envious brought up a short head of creamy yellowed-tan foam. A rougher pour didn't fare much better. Knowing that this is a beer clean glass (that just held a massive head and beautiful rings of lace for a prior beer), I have to see this as a bit of a defect. The head retention is almost non-existent, and it drops immediately to a standard collar. Lacing is very minimal, and only left with each new sip. Beyond that, the body is an attractive, clear ruby-mahogany.

The aroma is malty, and it delivers a bit of the fruit promised on the label (pears and raspberry), as well as some oak and a little whiff of alcohol (heat, some coconut & papaya/mango). The fruitiness is not pronounced, nor is it specific, and most tasters will probably just pass it over, focusing more on the caramel and chocolate of the malt until it warms to room temperature and levels out. At that point, however, some Bourbon character also becomes noticeable, which is interesting (is that the source of the coconut I was finding?).

In the mouth it's supple and smooth, with a restrained carbonation and medium-full body. Perhaps that's the trade off for a limited head? Duly noted, and quite possibly to the betterment of the beer all around.

The flavor delivers more fruit than the nose suggests, and the first sip displays a delicate blend of soft, cocoa-dusted malt and fruit. It's initially more like pear with a little bit of that slightly grating flavor and tartness that pear has, but the raspberry appears across the middle as it warms, and then becomes even more clear in the finish. That's not to say that the fruitiness is bold, as it's certainly not, and I don't think anyone would consider this a fruit beer had they been given it to taste "blind"; the blend of malt and oak and alcohol dominate it too much for that. That said, however, the fruit really does enhance what I might otherwise consider an "old ale", and I find it quite interesting. I'd like to say it was delicate as well, because the flavor components mingle with each other so nicely, except that the alcohol stands out. A minor bit is fine, and although I don't want to find it in the aroma, I think a little bit in the flavor helps to round it and give it balance. That would be expected in an "old ale". It's a little more present than that, however, most likely due to the secondary fermentation of the pear juice.

In conclusion, I have to give New Holland credit for this one. It's unique. It's interesting. And it's fairly well-done given the process that it goes through. I see it as a special occasion beer, fitting in well with holiday dinners or specialty meals; and I think the suggestion of pairing it with grilled stone fruits on the label is brilliant (those and a buttery, earthy, ripe soft cheese and crusty bread would be magnificent!). On the other hand, I haven't tasted it fresh, and perhaps aging has done wonders for it. I'll never know.

Photo of jmdrpi
4.03/5  rDev +24%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

on tap in a 10 oz glass, at the brewpub in Holland, MI.

appears a beautiful deep garnet color, with off-white head. sweet fruity aroma, but the taste is not as sweet, more balanced. Flavors are well blended, although I'm not sure I could have put my finger on pear and raspberry if I didn't know they were in there. slightly tart aftertaste.
smooth body, mild carbonation.

overall - a very nice complex beer.

Photo of drabmuh
4.03/5  rDev +24%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

From the brewer, "Envious is a unique beer, a hybrid of many techniques. Its high-gravity malt-fermented base is blended with Michigan pear juice and chardonnay yeast for a second fermentation, before being aged with raspberries and oak. Unlike any style or beer before it, it must be tasted to be appreciated. Envious will be available on draught at select establishments later in the month, and 22-ounce, foil-necked bottles are scheduled to hit the streets on April 1st."

Beer is brown and clear forms a diffuse head of large bubbles that cling to the glass leaving a lot of lacing on the snifter. Carbonation is moderate.
Aroma is dominantly sweet, lots of pear aroma, lots of fruit in general, some alcohol.
Body of the beer is thin which cuts the sweetness slightly making it more drinkable. Fruit flavors are really high, there is almost a liquor like feel to the finish of this beer, like bourbon. There isn't much hint of the oak, at least not to me, there may be a slight raspberry flavor to the whole thing. Drinkability is OK mouthfeel is good.

Photo of MadScientist
4/5  rDev +23.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A 2012 vintage that I picked up at the brew pub.

a: This pours a very clear dark amber with highlights of read and purple. The light tan head slowly dissipates to a thick ring with rafts of bubble floating around the glass.

s: This one smells moderately of pear, malt then some raspberries and slight touch of oak with an light alcohol aroma.

t: Medium raspberry tartness and flavor come through on the first sip with a bit of the pear fruitiness. There is a low bitterness but the tartness is stronger. There are moderately-low malt flavors of carmel and toast. There is also some sweetness but the balance is a bit more towards the tart and bitterness having an off-dry finish.

m: Soft and smooth on the palate with a medium body and moderate carbonation. There is a slight tingle on the tongue that seems CO2 and oak derived.

o: The fruit and the oak each getting to play their part in this beer while resolving harmonious, well balanced beer.

Photo of rhoadsrage
4/5  rDev +23.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

(Served in a chalice)
A- This beer pours a deep brown body with a creamy beige thick film of head. There is a light carbonation of big bubbles gliding up the glass.
S- The deep full aroma of raspberries is followed by a berry leaves and woody finish.
T- This beer has a mellow brown malt flavor with a raspberry note and some oaky flavors with fruity notes in the finish. There are faint pear flavors as it warms and a overipe fruit flavor grows in the finish.
M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with a soft fizzy in the finish and no alcohol heat noted.
D- The fruity flavors get a bit syrupy but it is a nice mix of pear and raspberry flavors with the brown malt and more subtle fruity esters. This beer has some nice dubble qualities.

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New Holland Envious from New Holland Brewing Company
75 out of 100 based on 248 ratings.