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New Holland Envious - New Holland Brewing Company

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Ratings: 253
Reviews: 113
rAvg: 3.26
pDev: 20.25%
Wants: 4
Gots: 28 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Fruit / Vegetable Beer |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: drabmuh on 04-07-2010

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 253 | Reviews: 113
Photo of Sammy
3.65/5  rDev +12%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Interesting fruit beer. After the hole mix settles, getting the raspberry aroma, and dark reddish colour. Active carbonation. Some white winish taste in secondary. Big mouthfeel, not for everybody. A sipper in terms of drinkability.Some oak there. Balanced bitter, sugar and malt. Needs to line up on sour and bitter side.

Photo of t0rin0
3/5  rDev -8%

Photo of spycow
3/5  rDev -8%

Photo of djrn2
3/5  rDev -8%

Photo of zestar
3/5  rDev -8%

Photo of acurtis
2.75/5  rDev -15.6%

Photo of nmann08
2/5  rDev -38.7%

Photo of metter98
3.25/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

A: The beer is clear dark reddish brown in color. It poured with a short off white head that quickly died down, leaving a thin collar around the edge of the glass.
S: Light to moderate aromas of raspberries and dark malts are present in the nose-as the beer warms up, pears also become noticeable.
T: The taste is similar to the smell, except that flavors of dark malts are also noticeable. Neither sweetness nor tartness is present.
M: It feels light- to medium-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer is rather malty for a fruit beer and tastes like it has some off flavors, as the malts don't seem to mesh well with the fruit.

Photo of jaydoc
3.5/5  rDev +7.4%

Photo of BEERchitect
3.34/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

What's New Holland doing making a fruit beer? If a brewery of their quality is going to make the attempt, it's easy to expect a rare success. And they deliver quite well.

A dark burgundy beer sides slightly on the brownish side. A light and somewhat fizzy head forms on the glass, resends quickly, and is slight on any attempt to lace. Though the color and clarity is supurb, I'd like to see a more froathy character.

Succulent and alluring aromas of fruits and berries swirl around a molassas aroma for a fantastic balance and seductiveness. The fruit character could be a combination of tart berries, or other fruits and doesn't exactly scream raspberries. In fact, the pears hardly make an impact on the dark fruits and bold malt scents.

Flavors of fruit acidity hit early on and then fade into the more robust berry-fruity flavors. Light vinyl flavors become a deterant early on but fades quickly. Any malty-molassas taste is very fleeting and avoids syrup sweetness in favor of grain and toast. Finishes with a grain-fruit blend.

Medium textured up front but the beer's light maltiness and fleeting carbonation leads the beer to a thin and grainy feel rather quickly. Mild astringency from fruit and maybe from grain become the final impressions as the beer fades.

Where the aroma in this beer is fantastic, the flavor hardly measure up and the mouthfeel takes a severe nose-dive. If the other beer components were up to par with its aroma, we'd have a superb beer.

Photo of womencantsail
2.18/5  rDev -33.1%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

Thanks? to Richard for sharing this one.

A: The pour is a dark amber color with just about no head at all.

S: Lots of overly sweet raspberries and some fake pear aromas as well. There's a mild tart and seedy quality to the nose.

T: Oh goodness, overly ripe (nearly rotting) raspberries with the pears contributing to the cloying nature of the flavor. And just for good measure, a distinct sugary flavor as well.

M: Medium bodied with a low to moderate level of carbonation and a bit of a syrupy feel.

D: This was just not good in any sense. Way too sweet and nothing even resembling balance at all.

Photo of TMoney2591
2.95/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Served in a Dogfish Head snifter.

I do so enjoy my random pickups at Whole Foods. If only my wallet would shut the hell up and stop complaining... This impulse buy pours a slightly translucent ruby brown topped by a half-finger of glowing ecru micro-foam that apparently has somewhere important to be. I don't know if I've ever seen a head disappear so damn quickly and completely. The nose comprises a cherry/grape Robitussin cocktail, along with cough drops, candi sugar, and a slight oaky shoulder is tittilatingly exposed to keep the interest up. I didn't know they made barrel-aged cold medicines... The taste holds notes of sad pears (you can taste some tears in there, I think), red apple flavoring (the artificial kind, baby), and blackberries up front, buoyed by a backbone of walnut, oak, caramel, and rye bread that only bobs to the surface near the back of the throat. The body is a limply heavy medium, with very scattered traces of carbonation and an oily feel. This beer makes me sad.

Photo of NeroFiddled
4/5  rDev +22.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

New Holland Envious Vintage 2010 - roughly a year old.

Steadily poured, New Hollands Envious brought up a short head of creamy yellowed-tan foam. A rougher pour didn't fare much better. Knowing that this is a beer clean glass (that just held a massive head and beautiful rings of lace for a prior beer), I have to see this as a bit of a defect. The head retention is almost non-existent, and it drops immediately to a standard collar. Lacing is very minimal, and only left with each new sip. Beyond that, the body is an attractive, clear ruby-mahogany.

The aroma is malty, and it delivers a bit of the fruit promised on the label (pears and raspberry), as well as some oak and a little whiff of alcohol (heat, some coconut & papaya/mango). The fruitiness is not pronounced, nor is it specific, and most tasters will probably just pass it over, focusing more on the caramel and chocolate of the malt until it warms to room temperature and levels out. At that point, however, some Bourbon character also becomes noticeable, which is interesting (is that the source of the coconut I was finding?).

In the mouth it's supple and smooth, with a restrained carbonation and medium-full body. Perhaps that's the trade off for a limited head? Duly noted, and quite possibly to the betterment of the beer all around.

The flavor delivers more fruit than the nose suggests, and the first sip displays a delicate blend of soft, cocoa-dusted malt and fruit. It's initially more like pear with a little bit of that slightly grating flavor and tartness that pear has, but the raspberry appears across the middle as it warms, and then becomes even more clear in the finish. That's not to say that the fruitiness is bold, as it's certainly not, and I don't think anyone would consider this a fruit beer had they been given it to taste "blind"; the blend of malt and oak and alcohol dominate it too much for that. That said, however, the fruit really does enhance what I might otherwise consider an "old ale", and I find it quite interesting. I'd like to say it was delicate as well, because the flavor components mingle with each other so nicely, except that the alcohol stands out. A minor bit is fine, and although I don't want to find it in the aroma, I think a little bit in the flavor helps to round it and give it balance. That would be expected in an "old ale". It's a little more present than that, however, most likely due to the secondary fermentation of the pear juice.

In conclusion, I have to give New Holland credit for this one. It's unique. It's interesting. And it's fairly well-done given the process that it goes through. I see it as a special occasion beer, fitting in well with holiday dinners or specialty meals; and I think the suggestion of pairing it with grilled stone fruits on the label is brilliant (those and a buttery, earthy, ripe soft cheese and crusty bread would be magnificent!). On the other hand, I haven't tasted it fresh, and perhaps aging has done wonders for it. I'll never know.

Photo of oline73
3.85/5  rDev +18.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I had this on-tap at the brewpub in Holland. Served in a New Holland goblet.

Appearance: Mahogany with just a little bit of off white head that fades away quite quickly.

Smell: Sweet fruity malt, I'm picking up raspberries. There is also a hint of caramel.

Taste: Sweet malt with caramel and mild roast. Also picking up Raspberry and oak. The finish is mildly bitter.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with tingly carbonation and a finish that is quite dry.

Overall: This one grew on me as I drank it. I thought the use of fruit was tasteful and there was a nice balance. Not sure why this one is rated so low, oh well.

Photo of Kegatron
3/5  rDev -8%

Photo of jlindros
3.03/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Thanks, or maybe I should say no-thanks to John D. for this one, vintage 2010.

Very light head, semi clear dark marroon rosy brown color.

Nose sweet malts and syrup, weird fruits, light raspberry, pear, lighter dark reddish malts, fruit juice light apple juice.

Taste fruit juice, pear, apple, light grape, raspberry, light syrupy malts, sticky extract, no real malts, watery, light iffy syrup on the finish, little sticky and gritty.

Mouth is lighter with little carb.

Overall meh,

Photo of russpowell
3.32/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

2012 vintage pours chestnut with thin tan head. Average head retention & lacing

S: Cherry juice, figs

T: Follows the nose, some baker's chocolate hidden underneath up front along with raspberry. Raspberry tartness as this warms, some oaky woody notes as well, a bit of black cherry as this warms. Fishes with cherry juice, a touch of dryness & a bit of raspberry & figs

MF: Light bodied with some what annoying dryness, subtle carbonation, really needs a bit more to push the flavors on show.

An alright fruit beer but not one I would seek out again. New Holland has generated more disappointments than hits for me, they aren't punching up to the weight of most of the Michigan beers I've tried. I really don't see this getting better with age,,,

Photo of mactrail
3.92/5  rDev +20.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On tap at the downtown Holland tap. Pear and raspberry aged in oak according to staff. Rich and kind of gamey with a dark dried
cherry taste. Very fragrant like Cherry Coke. Roasted malt and gummy worms. Dried pears and a yeasty bready taste. Intriguing and hard to categorize flavors make this an experience to try if you like fruit beers. Maybe they'll make a sour version to satisfy the geeks. Long musty aftertaste like a trip to Belgium. Nice mahogany color in the tall tulip.

Photo of drabmuh
4.05/5  rDev +24.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

From the brewer, "Envious is a unique beer, a hybrid of many techniques. Its high-gravity malt-fermented base is blended with Michigan pear juice and chardonnay yeast for a second fermentation, before being aged with raspberries and oak. Unlike any style or beer before it, it must be tasted to be appreciated. Envious will be available on draught at select establishments later in the month, and 22-ounce, foil-necked bottles are scheduled to hit the streets on April 1st."

Beer is brown and clear forms a diffuse head of large bubbles that cling to the glass leaving a lot of lacing on the snifter. Carbonation is moderate.
Aroma is dominantly sweet, lots of pear aroma, lots of fruit in general, some alcohol.
Body of the beer is thin which cuts the sweetness slightly making it more drinkable. Fruit flavors are really high, there is almost a liquor like feel to the finish of this beer, like bourbon. There isn't much hint of the oak, at least not to me, there may be a slight raspberry flavor to the whole thing. Drinkability is OK mouthfeel is good.

Photo of mdfb79
2.7/5  rDev -17.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Poured from a 22 oz. bottle into my Duvel tulip.

a - Pours a deep purple/red color with one inch of off white head and high carbonation visible.

s - Smells of dark fruit, especially raspberries. Also smells of sweet fruit juice, oak, and chocolate.

t - Tastes of roasted malts, chocolate, and dark fruits, but it isn't working for me. The combination tastes a little bit weird, but I can't seem to put my finger on it. Also a little bit of alcohol, which is surprising since it's only 7.5% ABV. Not very enojoyable.

m - Medium body and high carbonation.

d - I thought it smelled pretty good, but the taste was not good at all. Wouldn't buy again.

Photo of DrBier
4/5  rDev +22.7%

Photo of InspectorBob
3/5  rDev -8%

Photo of imperialking
3/5  rDev -8%

Photo of superspak
3.6/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

22 ounce bottle into tulip, 2010 vintage. Pours clear dark red color with a small 1 finger light tan head with good retention that reduces to a ring of lacing. Minimal lacing on the glass. Aromas of big pear, tart raspberry, chocolate, earth, oak, molasses, light vinegar, and light spices. Nice and very fruity aromas as expected. Smells very authentic. Taste of oak, raspberry, pear, earth, chocolate, molasses, oak, spices, and light pepper. Fairly dry on the finish; with light lingering notes of pear, raspberry, oak, and light spices for a bit. Good flavor balance and complexity; without being cloying. Medium carbonation and body; with a fairly syrupy mouthfeel as expected. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a light warming after the finish. Very smooth and drinkable. Overall this is a very solid fruit beer. Nice complexity and balance; and very smooth to drink. Enjoyable stuff.

Photo of Stinkypuss
3.1/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

"A fruit beer aged in oak" I figured why not.

Appearance: A rich amber in color with a creamy off white head and some lace.

Smell: Strong smelling from the start. Some tart cherry. Fruity and strong smelling, bourbon.

Taste: Odd flavor combinations. There is a distinct fruity flavor, oak, vanilla and sugar. Together its like chocolate covered cherries soaked in bourbon. Hint of vanilla mid sip. Alcohol is very pronounced and almost detracts away from the other flavors trying to pull through. Oak is there with a woody/earthy tone. The fruit notes get overpowered. A bit hot especially for the relatively low abv.

Mouthfeel: Full bodied, lingering booze on my breath, though it is not that strong, I am led to think this ale was aged in bourbon barrels.

Drinkability: This one is a nitecap for sure, a bit abrasive but still interesting and worth the try.

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New Holland Envious from New Holland Brewing Company
75 out of 100 based on 253 ratings.