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New Holland Envious - New Holland Brewing Company

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253 Ratings
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Ratings: 253
Reviews: 113
rAvg: 3.26
pDev: 20.25%
Wants: 4
Gots: 28 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Fruit / Vegetable Beer |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: drabmuh on 04-07-2010

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 253 | Reviews: 113
Photo of doughanson78
3.11/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

22oz bottle poured into a snifter. Thanks to bobpack for this one.

A: Very dark. Not pitch black. Very bright red when held to light. One finger tan head with good retention and lacing.

S: Chocolate currents. I get a fish food aroma in this also. Very slight blueberry aromas. Maybe a touch of pear.

T: Blueberries upfront. Big chocolate throughout the middle and finish. Lot of dark fruits, raisins, currants, dates. Very different flavors.

M: Medium light bodied. Low carbonation. Slight creaminess. Good mouth coating. A touch dry.

O: A weird beer. Crazy how there is so much chocolate coming through. A beer that should be experienced for sure... but only once.

Photo of FightingEntropy
3/5  rDev -8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Dark black beer with ruby and purple highlights around the edges. Poured hard and was unable to get the slightly brown head to linger at all. Feel flat immediately. Fruity, syrupy nose--smells of raspberries, dark cherries, Morgan David wine and hot alcohol. Pear is listed in ingredients, and there is a undermined fruity smell in it. Taste is sharp and acidic--strong fruit, and dark fruit, raisins and overripe plums. Sour note on the end that's a bit of an off flavor. NH is an excellent brewery, but this experiment did not pay off.

Photo of mactrail
3.92/5  rDev +20.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On tap at the downtown Holland tap. Pear and raspberry aged in oak according to staff. Rich and kind of gamey with a dark dried
cherry taste. Very fragrant like Cherry Coke. Roasted malt and gummy worms. Dried pears and a yeasty bready taste. Intriguing and hard to categorize flavors make this an experience to try if you like fruit beers. Maybe they'll make a sour version to satisfy the geeks. Long musty aftertaste like a trip to Belgium. Nice mahogany color in the tall tulip.

Photo of oline73
3.85/5  rDev +18.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I had this on-tap at the brewpub in Holland. Served in a New Holland goblet.

Appearance: Mahogany with just a little bit of off white head that fades away quite quickly.

Smell: Sweet fruity malt, I'm picking up raspberries. There is also a hint of caramel.

Taste: Sweet malt with caramel and mild roast. Also picking up Raspberry and oak. The finish is mildly bitter.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with tingly carbonation and a finish that is quite dry.

Overall: This one grew on me as I drank it. I thought the use of fruit was tasteful and there was a nice balance. Not sure why this one is rated so low, oh well.

Photo of aasher
2.4/5  rDev -26.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

This one pours like a dark grape/cranberry juice concoction with an off white lacing around the glass. It smells of sweet fruity syrups, an odd mix of sweet berries. It tastes of light chocolate malts with a dry and bitter, yet somehow still overly sweet finish. This beer is odd. It's so disjointed. It drinks medium bodied and sticky. There's a lot of sugar. This beer is a mess and odd at that. The chocolate and berries just don't work in unison.

Photo of BarrytheBear
2.2/5  rDev -32.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Bottle shared with my friend Chris. 2010 model.

Poured a rusty trombone with some big soapy bubbles that pop and fade. Looks like raspberry prune juice if such an amalgamation existed.

Smells heavily of chocolate, prunes, raisins, and boozy dark fruits.

Tastes like oaky prunetastic surprise. Raspberry pokes through with chocolate, dark fruits, and coffee. Back end is mildly tannic.

Mouthfeel is thin and carbonation is a bit funky. I would not reach for this again and the bottle wasn't finished either.

Photo of ColdPoncho
3.35/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

2010 vintage

A - deep red/brown, clear, medium white ring of foam.

S - loads of raspberries, syrupy, raisiny.

T - wood, sweet...weird. I can't tell what's going on.

M - medium body, kind of light...

O (D) - Well...it's not great, but it's not bad. Won't get this one again!

Photo of Brewmeist
3.8/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured into pint class from 22oz 2011 envious.

A - dark golden brown, small limited froth head with weak lacing.

S - plenty of fruit. Pears, oakyness. Very sweet smelling, has some evidence of barrel aging.

M - plenty of carbonation, but not over done. Hits the pallette on the tip of the tounge, comes off slightly sour but more sweet.

D - more than I thought it would be. Very similar to a light porter beer.

T - overall it's nothing to write hope about but it's worth a shot if you've never had it. Very unique in the fruitful presence yet the porter feel about it hits home. How often do you get to try a beer made with pears and molasses? It's really not what you would expect

Photo of josefnewsong
4.2/5  rDev +28.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Don't let the low average rating deter you, this beer is definitely worth a try, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

a - dark, almost black, but I'm pretty sure I picked up hints of purple (I was outside at night w/ low light conditions when I had it), with a thin rim of bubbly head.
s - fruity and malty with maybe a bit of roast behind...fruits aren't your typical dark fruit aromas.
t - as it smells, but better. Big fruit flavor (apple/pear along with grapes and maybe dates) that doesn't get old or become overbearing at all, backed with some slight hints of roast and bittersweet chocolate, slight oak. Not a huge full flavor, but instead a flavor that lends itself to drinkability. On the sweet side of course, but it's not a sugary/malty mess, there is definitely a well-balanced nature to the beer. Not a hint of alcohol. A very unique brew, like a fruit beer merged with a light porter.
m - light in body, smooth, with a tingle of carbonation. Very drinkable.
o - I was surprised at how good this beer was. Usually my opinions are pretty much on par with BA ratings, or at least close, but C+ is not the grade this beer deserves (I know, to each his own). Well-balanced, dark, light body, fruity but not sugary sweet, a nice amount of alcohol with very little alcohol able to be detected...what more could you want from a fruit beer? This one is only trumped by one or two other fruit beers for me (notably Sammy Smiths organic raspberry mmm)

There are a lot of comments a la "it doesn't really fit into any category"...ummm why is that a bad thing? Besides, "fruit beer" is an extremely general category. I could see if the label was misrepresenting the contents of the bottle that would be one thing, but if you read it you should pretty much get what you expect.

Photo of tavernjef
3.8/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Gorgeous dark pour of purpley brown to settle in the glass with a mighty murk of the darkest mahogany. Great color! A small unlasting crown of dark beige drops down to a collar of thin bubbles and some decent lacing coats the glass in shreaded droplets.

Nice malty aroma that's lush and deep, wholesome and clean with a nice touch to some fruityness upon it. Its nose is heavy on caramel with some raisinyness and smaller notes to papaya, pear, and cocoa. It does, however, fade a bit as it gets warmer.

Taste doesn't bring in the amount of malt I was hoping for given what the aroma eluded to. I hate when that happens, well in most cases anyways. This is still good, but a little disappointing, as there doesn't seem to be any real long lasting tone or flavor to it. More on the fruit on the taste with some yellow raisin, pear, dark berry, cranberry tanged, and plum while the malt is barely doing anything other then keeping a lower ended carbonation. Which is a better aspect for what it offers as its smoothness and semi creamy nature is quenchingly nice to behold. However, there are areas of emptyness, but here is where my score lowers and up the body score since that seems to help the overall then what the taste does.

I like what New Holland is up to with this brew and look forward to more like it in the future with hopes that they rock my beery world a bit more then Envious did.

Photo of adman08
3.24/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A-Pours a deep mahogany with a good amount of head.
S-Aroma a bit like coffee with a hint of a vanilla/creamy scent.
T-Flavor of coffee, slight fruit flavor.
M-Very smooth and creamy, light carbonation.
Overall, an interesting beer, I'm not sure it really fits into any category. It's creamy with light carbonation like a stout and has similar flavors but some sweetness. I did find it very tasty and interesting in a good way, just not a real obvious fruit beer.

Photo of Preismj
3.15/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

a: murky looking purple/brown with a lot of head that looks more like soda fizz than anything else

s: smells of pear and grape are hardly at the front...the rest smells like boozy water. There isn't a lot going on here and once the initial smell of fruit fades, what is left is a bread-like mess

t: the fruit flavors are clashing here and taste like date/fig/raisin. pretty good actually, but not the flavor I was expecting. almost came off as a type of chocolate too...however the carbonation is way to high and ruins the overall taste. The flavor is there, but the fizz makes it a miss

m: too fizzy, medium body and little coating. Would have like it to stick around longer with less popping bubble feel in my mouth.

o: the flavors are clashing but don't make for a totally unpleasant experience. However, the extreme level of carbonation really wrecked the flavor profile here. It was like someone mixed Coke and Wine to get this...a fizzy fruity mess.

Photo of nhindian
2.99/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Blind Beer #7 from Khazadum, with the text: "You made it! Halfway done. Are you sad or excited to finish? I wonder..."

Glassware recommends pint glass, and I welcome this beer into my Perfect Pint.

A - This is a 22oz bottle with ... purple foil? Can't say I've seen that color used before. In the glass, the beer looks very beautiful. It is almost completely clear, and the color is a great chocolate brown, but when held up to light, it glows a deep ruby. About 2-fingers of tan head sit on top and has good retention. Lacing is not bad either, with scattered clumps of lace sticking around. (4.5/5)

S - The smell of this beer is certainly strange indeed and not quite what I was expecting. It's very malty and has a bit of dark fruit in fruit, giving it a somewhat sugary sweet aroma. The malts remind me of barley and a drizzle of chocolate syrup, while the fruits impart aromas of grapes, plums, dates, and figs. All of these sound great apart, but the way this beer integrates everything gives it a mish-mashed feeling and it's a little awkward. (3/5)

T - As in the nose, there's a big sweetness in this beer with a noticeable divide between the malts and fruits. The thing that's coming to mind immediately to me is a marriage between a doppelbock and a dubbel. The beginning gives a lot of the malty breadiness, while soon after there's a heaping helping of sugar-coated fruits. Apples and grapes are the most noticeable fruits and they last well into the finish. Not much alcohol burn. Very strange indeed. (3/5)

M - Mouthfeel is moderately heavy-bodied with lowish carbonation. This feels slick in the mouth, but would've helped to have a little more than the prick of carbonation it is currently giving. (3/5)

D/O - Drinkability is moderately low. The individual components I'm getting in this beer aren't bad, but when they come together, the sum definitely isn't greater than the parts. It just seems to coalesce awkwardly and doesn't fit nicely in the flavor profile. (2.5/5)

I'm thinking this is dubbel? I'm drawing a blank here; it doesn't really seem to fit with any style.

The reveal: New Holland Envious. Never heard of this one, but apparently it's brewed with pear juice and raspberries and is supposed to be tart... I guess what I thought were apples in the taste were pears, but not getting the tart raspberries...

Definitely interesting though and I'm guessing this was the second kill shot!

Photo of EricCioe
3.87/5  rDev +18.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

On tap at the Haymarket Brewery and Pub, Sunday 22 May 2011.

This pours a deep, clear red with a small offwhite head. On the nose there is a big note of raspberry with some vanilla drifting upwards, too, some caramel malt underneath those, and oak. In the mouth the raspberries and oak are the big players, with some slightly sweet malts playing nicely with the tart pear and especially the raspberries. It's not puckeringly tart, nor is it god-awful sweet. It's a nice balance between the two. Everything seems quite well-integrated. The only real flaw for me with this beer is that it's a bit thin, but that's a bit nit-picky and didn't detract at all for me from this wonderful beer.

This was on tap for a Michigan beer day at Haymarket, and I had never heard of it before and fruit beers aren't really my speed. But it looked interesting on the menu and I had to try it. I was blown away. I was even more blown away later when I saw the ratings here. Like I said, I'm not big on fruit beers, but this was a fine, fine brew.

Photo of gnemesis
3.62/5  rDev +11%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured this 2011 version into snifter on 04/12/2011.
I'm not sure how to describe this color but the easiest way is by saying it's brownish topped by a tan head. Disipates quickly and leaves very little lace. The nose on this is very fruity... very tart and full of raspberry and a bit of sweet malt. A few sips in and its apparent what this beer is... super fruity. Notes of pear and raspberry dominate with only a slight maltiness. Medium body and a spritzy medium carbonation. I'm not a fan of fruit beers and I tried to rate to style. I think this would be a good wine-drinkers crossover beer. Also I'm not sure this would hold up well in the cellar but maybe I'll toss one in there for shits and giggles.

Photo of zaphodchak
3.8/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Ruby body with one finger of tan-white head and fancy lacing.

Nose is *chewy*-- toffee and powerful raisiny taste: smells like a barleywine.

Taste is remarkably subtle. The nose was preparing me for something off the wall, but the taste has a backbone of pear, which is quite mild. Significant malt, but ultimately this was nowhere near as strong-tasting as I expected. Fruity but not obnoxiously so. Lingering aftertaste of... red wine? May smell like a barleywine, but doesn't taste like one. Faint hops, but they don't quite clean up the finish. The oaking is perceptible but only barely.

Mouthfeel is quite nice, and this is a dealmaker because otherwise it could easily taste like flat cola.

It's nice, but nowhere near the price point, and not as good as I would've expected from New Holland after how awesome their High Gravity series was.

Photo of Holland
3.53/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: dark brown, with copper along the edges. The head was gone when it got to me in the bar, and the lacing was thin and then gone.

S: citrus, lightly roasted malt. Not an overpowering smell.

T: creamy pear, apricot, malt, and a good deal of sweetness

M: creamy, little carbonation, and sticky on your mouth

O: I had a 6 oz pour of this, and it was difficult to finish. Not that it's a bad beer, but it would be a fine replacement for a dessert wine.

Photo of Beerenauslese
3.15/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Body is dark brown with a faint transparency. Looks like a belgian quadruple. Poured to a half inch head, the head dissipates quickly to a ring. Leaves trace amounts of lacing.

Smells of dark, heavy malt with a strong note of raspberry, with some honey and maple syrup.

Taste is a bit weird. Big chocolate malt flavor and raspberries. Not what one would expect. Really very malty and the fruit doesn't seem to go well with the base beer, whatever that is supposed to be. Some hops in the dry finish.

Body is medium and carbonation is low, giving it a rather flat mouthfeel.

Overall, an experiment that didn't turn out too well. There are some interesting elements but this beer just doesn't come together.

Photo of scruffwhor
3.75/5  rDev +15%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Cola brown mixed with dark ruby colors. The head is off white and retains for about twenty minutes of sipping.

I get raspberries in the noise with some charred oak, dark mufins, and a little pear. Smells like a slightly tart desert beer or apertif.

The taste starts with pear juice and medoium roasted malts. The middle has the oak come into play. This gives off a light char and woody flavor to thi otherwise fruity beer. As the beer warms, you can feel a little alcoholic warmth. This only adds depth to the somewhat watery, juicey texture of this brew.

The texture was lacking, but all in all I liked this beer.

Photo of tfarmstrong
2.01/5  rDev -38.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

A - dark caramel, pours a medium head that dissipates quickly

S - raspberries knock you back initially with other fruit lingering some malt as well but barely

T - Eep, it was a mix of berries, malt and sour. I was not a fan of the overly sour nature and the malt did not fill the gap

M - Mediocre and it was not as smooth as I expected from something oak aged.

O - It fills the idea of "it sounded like a good idea..."

Photo of Brenden
3.62/5  rDev +11%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The color is a somehwat murky brown that clears up a bit in the light. A small tan head fades to a pretty strong foam after showing moderate retention. Lacing is likewise moderate.
I don't think I've run into a mix quite like this one. The nose is a collaboration between coffee, fig, fruits and chocolate with a wood/smoke element. Malts hold on pretty strongly throughout.
Intersting is the word here. This is well brewed, but curious. I really do wonder if this is just sort of a novelty mix-up. More cocoa, coffee and figs are showcased than fruit, though citrus does certianly kick in with a touch of sweetness that avoids being overdone easily but adds an offputting tanginess in conjunction with the woodsmoke coming in underneath. A nutty flavor pull through in the finish, which also features a lingering mix of grains and lighter fruits.
The mouthfeel is a little on the thinner side, though malts provide a bit of sturdiness to a light body. Each sip does begin with some crispness that smooths out in the finish.
This is an interesting beer, though not the way one might expect a fruit beer to be put together. Kudos for being different, but I think usually fruit beers are built on a lighter ale base being things just mingle together and balance better.

Photo of eclaycamp
2.57/5  rDev -21.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Picked this up at Gomer's on a trip where I was looking for another beer. Still, I was intrigued by the label, including the blurb about it being aged on pear juice, so I figured I would check it out. I'm using my snifter for this one. Color is dark. With the addition of pear I was expecting a golden color but this thing is a dark mahogany. Somewhat murky clarity and no real head. The nose tries to be complex but it comes across as a little bit murky. There's raspberries there, as well as some dark chocolate notes. I get some of the oak character as well. Taste is ... interesting. Not what I was expecting at all. Based on the color, I was expecting this to resemble something like a Belgian dubbel, but that's not the case at all. Like the aroma, the taste is kind of murky. There's some raspberry characteristics. Doesn't taste like it smells at all. All in all, it falls ... flat. It's malty. Minor layers of oak and raspberries, but they are very muted. Maybe I need to let the beer warm up longer. As it warms I get some dark fruits - mainly prunes, maybe some apple. Swirling it around in my mouth I get a light vomit flavor. Uh. Meh. Carbonation falls flat as well - there's none to speak of. Likewise, there's no body to this thing. Any type of carbonation would help, but my glass is just ... sitting there doing nothing. Surprisingly, there's no alcohol warming present, which is something you might expect with a beer that's recommended for cellaring. I can see why New Holland earmarked this for cellaring. There's just nothing there - maybe they're expecting it to improve over time. Kudos for defying my expectations with the beer, though it needs some work. I kind of wish I had bought two bottles so I could compare them in a year.

Photo of roadhouse
3.46/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 22 oz. bottle into large pils glass.

Looks quite nice and darker then I thought it would be. It's nearly darker than some dopplebocks, a nice mahogany brown. I get a head of about an inch and it holds moderately well as a cap.

Aroma is quite muted, perhaps because I have served it quite cold. I am detecting some caramel notes similar to a doppelbock, cherry, and dark fruit, pear and raspberry not so much surprisingly.

Taste is unfortunately also quite neutral. I am detecting some dark fruit and cherry flavors initially with a tart and slightly phenolic finish. Sweetness does not come through at all to me. I am dumbfounded how so many people have complained of it being too sweet - I find it not sweet enough. As it warms it gets a little bit sweeter, and makes the brew quite enjoyable actually. I also find the oak character of the beer increasing as I drink more.

Mouthfeel is pretty nice, its medium bodied, with a tart refreshing finish that pairs well with the fruitiness.

Overall I am slightly disappointed with this beer. Oddly enough, reading people's bad reviews got me excited to try it, with most of the qualities the masses don't care for (sweetness, hops not the dominant factor) being singled out as a bad thing, I usually enjoy them. Slightly under par for New Holland but not disastrous either. For the price, I would definitely not try it again, but it was worth a shot. If there is one thing I would change about it, I think it needs MORE RASPBERRIES. I think this beer could be much much better with a pronounced raspberry flavor, though they are almost undetectable.

Photo of jwinship83
2.9/5  rDev -11%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

650ml capped bottle that reads vintage 2011. drank from my duvel tulip. not sure what to expect from this one.

A- this one pours out a darker than expected deep ruby red colored body with a large light khaki colored head on top. the head lasts for a very long time and leaves behind large globs of lacing.

S- the pear that this is brewed with comes on stronger that i would have guessed in the nose. the raspberries come out also, but weaker than i expected. a little bit of blackberries and some green apple skin finish this one off. very fresh and natural smelling. very sweet smelling.

T- the taste is just as sweet as the smell. lots of sweet berries and fruits. the pear comes out the strongest again. after that i get more blackberries and raspberries. a little bit of tart green apple skin. some subtle vanilla from oak. very sweet.

M- medium bodied with an acceptable level of carbonation. the alcohol is very well hidden. very sweet.

D- meh, this one wasnt for me. very very sweet. too sweet for one. maybe ill check this out again if i can find it again with some age on it. the bottle was a little too large also.

Photo of mwilbur
2.98/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Poured from 22 oz bottle into tulip.
A: Pours a murky cola color with high carbonation producing a 1/4 inch head that quickly recedes.
S: Definitely fruity. Raspberry dominates. Hint of pear...maybe.
T: Pear, oak, and raspberry...not much else. Not very complex, but what is there is fairly well balanced in a sweet and fruity kind of way.
M: Light body. Sweet with faintly tart finish.
D: Very average...big disappointment. There are a million jokes itching to be told here...I'm Envious of those who did not waste their hard earned money on this one. ($14 in my case.) There are many brews out there that are less than half the price and well over twice the beer. Can't recommend this one. DP.

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New Holland Envious from New Holland Brewing Company
75 out of 100 based on 253 ratings.