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Rye P.A. Hatter - New Holland Brewing Company

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Rye P.A. HatterRye P.A. Hatter

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315 Ratings
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Ratings: 315
Reviews: 110
rAvg: 3.78
pDev: 11.64%
Wants: 8
Gots: 23 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Rye Beer |  6.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: fear025 on 07-02-2010

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Ratings: 315 | Reviews: 110
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look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

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3.99/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

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3.14/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

2013 Vintage received in trade. I am worried...

Appearance - Pours a hazy rustic orange with a half a finger's width of sandstone colored head. Fair retention, breaking down to a thin, broken layer of surface suds.

Smell - Caramel and low, bitter earthiness.

Taste - Follows the nose to a T. Caramel malt base met by a leafy, earthy tea-like bitterness. Stale, woody finish.

Mouthfeel - Medium-bodied with fair carbonation. Smooth, in the least.

Overall - I was wanting to try this brew, but unfortunately the guy I got it from missed the bottling date. This thing is way past it's prime. He's a good guy though, so I can't give him too much grief. Shows potential of what could have been, but unfortunately it's just too far gone. A certain candidate for re-review, but I doubt that will be anytime soon. PULL YOUR OUTDATED BREWS OFF THE SHELVES, DAMN IT!

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4.53/5  rDev +19.8%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

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3.92/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Enjoyed from the bomber in a pint glass, this rye IPA pours a dark amber with a solid white head that slowly dissipates to a thin layer of foam with beautiful lacing. Nose of rich caramel malts, bittering hops, and spicy rye. Flavors follow the nose to perfection with a solid malt caramel backbone, spicy herbal and bitter hops, and a spicy rye characteristic that makes this one very pleasant. Smooth wet mouth feel and a light spicy rye/hop finish makes this one a rather special brew in the IPA category. Very nice....especially coming from a guy and gal that are not hop heads.


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3.48/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.75

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2.23/5  rDev -41%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.25

BOTTLE: Silver foil-ed over pry-off pressure cap. 2014 vintage. 1 pint 6 fl oz. Brown glass. Appealing label art.

Reviewed live as a rye pale ale per the label. Expectations are above average given the brewery. Purchased in CO and served cold into a Sam Adams perfect pint glass at high altitude in Castle Rock, CO.

No bubble show forms as it's poured.

HEAD: 1.5 fingers wide. Beige colour. Average thickness, creaminess, fullness, complexion, and consistency. Above average frothiness. Nice retention - ~5 minutes. Light, even lacing sticks to the sides of the glass as the head recedes.

BODY: Vibrant amber-copper. Translucent and transparent. Clean; no yeast particulate or hop sediment is visible.

Appears well-carbonated. It's not spot on for a pale ale, but I guess the rye does have an effect on colour. Still, it's far from unique or special. This is a pretty middle-of-the-road appearance for a pale. I'm optimistic.

AROMA: Sweet sticky caramalt dominates, lending far too much sweetness for a pale and seemingly drowning out the hops. Hopwise, I get nectary notes, faint pine, and some herbal/evergreen character. Rye's signature spiciness is in there but's hidden; I doubt I'd notice it if I tried this beer blind.

Aromatic intensity is average.

No yeast character, alcohol, or off-notes are detectable.

Suggests an overly sweet pale ale with insufficient hopping.

TASTE: Caramalt dominates the taste as well, to its detriment. I have trouble finding even any pale malts. Rye's spiciness does flourish on the climax, but it's not enough to save this flavour profile from its fundamental imbalance/overdone malt sweetness. And it suffers from a disgusting green apple/candied apple/caramelized apple note I despise. The hops get eclipsed, but I do find traces of herbal and evergreen hop character; maybe a hint of pine too? The ingredients were just poorly selected here; this should be a pale malt heavy flavour profile with bright hop notes like citrus and resins.

Average/underwhelming depth, duration, and intensity of flavour. There's no notable complexity/intricacy, nuance, or subtlety. It's a pretty overt build, lacking much cohesion. Not a gestalt flavour profile by any means. Sadly, there is some noticeable alcohol warmth as well. A problematic pale ale buid that I'm having trouble liking.

As it warms, I even find some marshmallow emerging - an awful flavour in a pale ale build.

TEXTURE: Smooth, wet, crisp, overcarbonated, too full-bodied, overly thick, and slightly syrupy, with an off-puttingly sticky feel on the palate. This texture is ill-suited to its intended style and doesn't do a good job of complementing the taste. Subpar execution. Fails to elevate the beer.

OVERALL: Disappointing work from New Holland. The execution didn't deliver on the potential of the premise. In order to fix this, they'd need to go to back to the drawing board; even the fundamental ingredient selection decisions are wrong. Not sure what they were after with this one. I'll finish the bottle with effort, but I definitely wouldn't buy this again. Why is it so damned sweet?

High D

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4/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

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3.56/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

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3.54/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

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3.76/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Poured Rye Hatter into Belgian Tulip.

A - Pours a clear amber with a finger of off white head.

S - Spicy hops with pine, grapefruit with musty malt.

T - I taste hops with some spicy rye malt. Grapefruit, pine resin mid palate. On the aftertaste getting more spicy rye with more grapefruit and pine.

M - Medium mouthfeel with medium carbonation.

O - A good rye IPA. Cheers!

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3/5  rDev -20.6%

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3.75/5  rDev -0.8%

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4.25/5  rDev +12.4%

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4/5  rDev +5.8%

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3.75/5  rDev -0.8%

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3.51/5  rDev -7.1%

Appearance - 3.75/5
Pours a deep orange-brown. Moderately clear. A little haze. Can see many tiny particulates floating around in the beer. Minimal head. Moderate amount of carbonation can be seen rising at a quick rate.

Smell - 3.5/5
Pine-citrus hops and some sweet maltiness. Perhaps hints of caramel or other dark/thick sugar flavor. Nothing really special

Taste - 3.5/5
Pine-citrus hops, sweet darker malty flavor, some spiciness. Pine-citrus hops aftertaste. Nothing really special. Doesn't really taste much different from the Oak-Aged Hatter IPA I tried yesterday.

Mouthfeel - 3.5/5
Medium to full bodied, creamy texture, very light carbonation. I typically like more carbonation in my beers, but the light carbonation I think fits with this beer.

Overall - 3.5/5
Overall this was an okay beer. The bottles says "Rye lends spiciness to the caramel-malt base". I would have liked to feel more spiciness from this beer, as it was minimal. Also, I wish they brought out the caramel malt flavors more. I still don't think it would make this beer awesome, but I think it would be better if they did those things. Also, I don't know if I would have used piney hops. I would use other kinds of hops that are less piney for this beer. Again, I have been disappointed by yet another Hatter beer. I love New Holland, but don't think I've ever really liked any of their Hatters.

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Rye P.A. Hatter from New Holland Brewing Company
85 out of 100 based on 315 ratings.