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Rye P.A. Hatter - New Holland Brewing Company

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85
very good

317 Ratings
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Ratings: 317
Reviews: 111
rAvg: 3.78
pDev: 11.64%
Wants: 9
Gots: 23 | FT: 0
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New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Rye Beer |  6.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: fear025 on 07-02-2010

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Ratings: 317 | Reviews: 111
Photo of Phocion
3.63/5  rDev -4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Notes from phone, August 20, 2015.

Bomber split b/t gf and me. Pours into two pint glasses a medium amber w/ thick bubbly off-white head. Good retention. Strings of lacing.

Citrus hops, caramel malts, and rye. Slightly grainy and a touch of grassy hops.

Flavor is very clean. Sharp grassy hops and spicy rye. Neutral, bready and generic grainy backbone with just a bit of caramel sweetness. The fruity hoppy aroma is barely detectable in the flavor. Mildly astringent bitter finish.

Medium body and well carbonated. Sharp and crisp mouthfeel.

Overall quite boring and unimpressive.

Photo of TheSixthRing
3.14/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

2013 Vintage received in trade. I am worried...

Appearance - Pours a hazy rustic orange with a half a finger's width of sandstone colored head. Fair retention, breaking down to a thin, broken layer of surface suds.

Smell - Caramel and low, bitter earthiness.

Taste - Follows the nose to a T. Caramel malt base met by a leafy, earthy tea-like bitterness. Stale, woody finish.

Mouthfeel - Medium-bodied with fair carbonation. Smooth, in the least.

Overall - I was wanting to try this brew, but unfortunately the guy I got it from missed the bottling date. This thing is way past it's prime. He's a good guy though, so I can't give him too much grief. Shows potential of what could have been, but unfortunately it's just too far gone. A certain candidate for re-review, but I doubt that will be anytime soon. PULL YOUR OUTDATED BREWS OFF THE SHELVES, DAMN IT!

Photo of Brutaltruth
3.92/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Enjoyed from the bomber in a pint glass, this rye IPA pours a dark amber with a solid white head that slowly dissipates to a thin layer of foam with beautiful lacing. Nose of rich caramel malts, bittering hops, and spicy rye. Flavors follow the nose to perfection with a solid malt caramel backbone, spicy herbal and bitter hops, and a spicy rye characteristic that makes this one very pleasant. Smooth wet mouth feel and a light spicy rye/hop finish makes this one a rather special brew in the IPA category. Very nice....especially coming from a guy and gal that are not hop heads.

Cheers

Photo of kojevergas
2.23/5  rDev -41%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.25

BOTTLE: Silver foil-ed over pry-off pressure cap. 2014 vintage. 1 pint 6 fl oz. Brown glass. Appealing label art.

Reviewed live as a rye pale ale per the label. Expectations are above average given the brewery. Purchased in CO and served cold into a Sam Adams perfect pint glass at high altitude in Castle Rock, CO.

No bubble show forms as it's poured.

HEAD: 1.5 fingers wide. Beige colour. Average thickness, creaminess, fullness, complexion, and consistency. Above average frothiness. Nice retention - ~5 minutes. Light, even lacing sticks to the sides of the glass as the head recedes.

BODY: Vibrant amber-copper. Translucent and transparent. Clean; no yeast particulate or hop sediment is visible.

Appears well-carbonated. It's not spot on for a pale ale, but I guess the rye does have an effect on colour. Still, it's far from unique or special. This is a pretty middle-of-the-road appearance for a pale. I'm optimistic.

AROMA: Sweet sticky caramalt dominates, lending far too much sweetness for a pale and seemingly drowning out the hops. Hopwise, I get nectary notes, faint pine, and some herbal/evergreen character. Rye's signature spiciness is in there but's hidden; I doubt I'd notice it if I tried this beer blind.

Aromatic intensity is average.

No yeast character, alcohol, or off-notes are detectable.

Suggests an overly sweet pale ale with insufficient hopping.

TASTE: Caramalt dominates the taste as well, to its detriment. I have trouble finding even any pale malts. Rye's spiciness does flourish on the climax, but it's not enough to save this flavour profile from its fundamental imbalance/overdone malt sweetness. And it suffers from a disgusting green apple/candied apple/caramelized apple note I despise. The hops get eclipsed, but I do find traces of herbal and evergreen hop character; maybe a hint of pine too? The ingredients were just poorly selected here; this should be a pale malt heavy flavour profile with bright hop notes like citrus and resins.

Average/underwhelming depth, duration, and intensity of flavour. There's no notable complexity/intricacy, nuance, or subtlety. It's a pretty overt build, lacking much cohesion. Not a gestalt flavour profile by any means. Sadly, there is some noticeable alcohol warmth as well. A problematic pale ale buid that I'm having trouble liking.

As it warms, I even find some marshmallow emerging - an awful flavour in a pale ale build.

TEXTURE: Smooth, wet, crisp, overcarbonated, too full-bodied, overly thick, and slightly syrupy, with an off-puttingly sticky feel on the palate. This texture is ill-suited to its intended style and doesn't do a good job of complementing the taste. Subpar execution. Fails to elevate the beer.

OVERALL: Disappointing work from New Holland. The execution didn't deliver on the potential of the premise. In order to fix this, they'd need to go to back to the drawing board; even the fundamental ingredient selection decisions are wrong. Not sure what they were after with this one. I'll finish the bottle with effort, but I definitely wouldn't buy this again. Why is it so damned sweet?

High D

Photo of fitrock2112
3.76/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Poured Rye Hatter into Belgian Tulip.

A - Pours a clear amber with a finger of off white head.

S - Spicy hops with pine, grapefruit with musty malt.

T - I taste hops with some spicy rye malt. Grapefruit, pine resin mid palate. On the aftertaste getting more spicy rye with more grapefruit and pine.

M - Medium mouthfeel with medium carbonation.

O - A good rye IPA. Cheers!

Photo of mchegash
3.51/5  rDev -7.1%

Appearance - 3.75/5
Pours a deep orange-brown. Moderately clear. A little haze. Can see many tiny particulates floating around in the beer. Minimal head. Moderate amount of carbonation can be seen rising at a quick rate.

Smell - 3.5/5
Pine-citrus hops and some sweet maltiness. Perhaps hints of caramel or other dark/thick sugar flavor. Nothing really special

Taste - 3.5/5
Pine-citrus hops, sweet darker malty flavor, some spiciness. Pine-citrus hops aftertaste. Nothing really special. Doesn't really taste much different from the Oak-Aged Hatter IPA I tried yesterday.

Mouthfeel - 3.5/5
Medium to full bodied, creamy texture, very light carbonation. I typically like more carbonation in my beers, but the light carbonation I think fits with this beer.

Overall - 3.5/5
Overall this was an okay beer. The bottles says "Rye lends spiciness to the caramel-malt base". I would have liked to feel more spiciness from this beer, as it was minimal. Also, I wish they brought out the caramel malt flavors more. I still don't think it would make this beer awesome, but I think it would be better if they did those things. Also, I don't know if I would have used piney hops. I would use other kinds of hops that are less piney for this beer. Again, I have been disappointed by yet another Hatter beer. I love New Holland, but don't think I've ever really liked any of their Hatters.

Photo of Beaver13
3.11/5  rDev -17.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

22 oz bottle. Pours hazy copper orange with a big frothy creamy white head that retains well and leaves some lacing.

The aroma is sweet bready rye, some fruit and hops.

The flavor is sweet bready biscuit malts, rye spice, some fruit with slightly vegetal hops in the finish. The mouthfeel is medium to full bodied with slightly sharp carbonation.

Overall, a decent rye pale.

Photo of delta490
3.85/5  rDev +1.9%

Pours a beuatiful caramel/amber with a creamy white head that shows a nice will to live. The aroma shows off the strong malt basis with just hints of floral hops. The taste has the same profile as the aroma with just a small spiced note. Nice fullness on the palate. A very god pale ale with a small but well-executed twist.

Photo of beergoot
3.75/5  rDev -0.8%

Vintage 2014 per the bottle label..."Time" printed underneath the bottle cap...

Partially hazy, dark honey colored body topped with a thick, sticky, robust head (3.75). Rye spiciness initially and then a strong citric hop aroma; caramel (4.0). Nice blend of caramel malt sweetness with a zesty rye spiciness and tingly hop bitterness; slight citric tartness (3.75). Medium bodied; fairly dry finish (3.75).

Evenly balanced beer between the malts, grains, and hops regarding taste. Spicy, tart, and dry with a robust dark malt suggestion (perhaps the Munich malt used in the grain bill). A nice find along the Colorado Front Range and another reason to keep looking for some of those great Michigan beers...

Photo of tigg924
3.75/5  rDev -0.8%

Tasty beer. The rye is very much present and pleasant. The caramel taste goes well with the rye. I would pick this up again.

Photo of rangerred
3.59/5  rDev -5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a pint glass out of a 22oz bomber.

Pours a slightly hazy medium copper with a fairly hefty one finger off-white head. Head retention is very good although lacing is lacking somewhat.

Aroma has a touch of tropical fruit mixed with some pine and earth. That telltale rye spiciness is present although it is not as up front as I was hoping. Fairly juicy all-around but a bit of a let down.

The flavor improves somewhat but I feel it is still lacking a huge hit of rye. Orange and tangerine from the hops and a nice hop juiciness. The citra really comes through. Rye spice is in the background but really lacks a punch. Nice slick mouthfeel that I was expecting and solid malt backbone but sort of boring. Bitterness is only moderate.

Overall, I was a bit let down by this beer. It honestly doesn't seem a whole lot different from the standard mad hatter. Not really worth going out of your way for.

Photo of Franziskaner
3.71/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Amber to a rich brass hue with a quarter inch of beige head on top. Brussels lacing. The aroma is an interesting melange of spicy rye,piny hops and light malt. The taste is rye and light malt in the forefront. The piny hops kick in and the back of the palate and then it is rye and light malt in the finish. The mouth is slightly sticky and the hops and rye gently tickle the tastebuds. Not my favorite rye IPA,but still worth checking out.

Photo of matjack85
4.32/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

I picked up this 22oz brown bottle at the Binny's store in Bloomingdale, IL for just $4.99 a bottle. No freshness date, but the label says " 2012 Vintage" on it and this is already June of 2014, so I'm hoping this one isn't over the hill yet.

The beer poured a slightly hazed bronze color and made a 1½-finger white head that lasted about a minute. Lacing was decent.

This smelled like fresh baked rye bread with a little sweetness underneath. It was a great smell.

The beer tasted like rye bread with caramel drizzled over it. The dry hopping also gives it some citrus peel bitterness. The beer is very well balanced - not too sweet, not too spicy, and not too citrusy, with the end result being a delicious neer.

Smooth and medium bodied with moderate carbonation.

If you like rye beers, this is one you absolutely must try.

Photo of lochef81
4.02/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I had this on tap last year and loved it couldn't wait to try it again. This rye ale pours a slightly hazy copper red hue with a billowing and long lasting off white head that leaves a lot of lacing. The aroma is spicy and bitter. Notes of floral and citrus hops are accented by peppery and herbacious aromas. There is also a nice underlying malt sweetness that balances the entire nose. The mouthfeel is on the full bodied side of medium. Smoith but coating. The flavor is more bitter than the nose but still all the perceived aromas are present on the tongue. I can't quite put my finger on what citrus is present but its definitely there along with the spice, floral, and some pine. This is good, real good, and quite complex. There is almost a Belgian-y quality to it with all the spiciness and yet sweet and bitter flavors. Well done New Holland. Aside from the Imperial Hatter this may be my favorite of the Hatter series.

Photo of Ozzylizard
3.64/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

$ 5.49 for bomber at Giant Eagle
Undated bottle coded EO93 13:23 at 45 degrees into imperial pint
Aroma of citrus, but faint
Head average (4 cm), off-white, creamy, mostly lasting
Lacing spotty
Body medium orange, slight hop haze
Flavor begins with a non-specific citrus flavor, no malt, no alcohol, no diacetyl, no obvious rye spiciness
Ends slightly bitter with no astringency
Palate medium, slightly oily, carbonation soft.

Overall, a decent IPA with a reasonable price-point. Will buy again.

Photo of mrfrancis
3.71/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A: Pours a clear amber with a thick, creamy white head that leaves a substantial amount of lace as it recedes.

S: Gentle, somewhat muted aromas of caramel, toffee, rye bread, biscuits, cream, herbs, lemon, and orange are present on the nose.

T: Notes of herbs, grass, lemon, lime, and orange vie against maltier flavors of caramel, toffee, sweet cream, biscuit, black pepper, and rye bread. The finish is short and simple with notes of caramel, rye bread, herbs, and lemon.

M: Medium in body, creamy, velvety, and smooth. Carbonation is gentle. This ale is very easy to drink and has a wonderfully soft, smooth texture, but it needs to be slightly better carbonated.

O: Not bad at all. I really like the way the malt and hop flavors separate on the entry and then integrate on the finish. It really shows the drinker how a beer like this is put together. As Rye IPAs go, this one is not really groundbreaking or extreme in any way, but it is very solidly crafted, very approachable, and very flavorful. I like it.

Photo of tmm313
4.4/5  rDev +16.4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

A- Hazy amber color with a thick, creamy, 2 finger head. Awesome sticky lacing with great trailing. Lacing holds on tight. I don't think it can get much better than this.

S- Grapefruit, tropical fruits, rye, pine and caramel. Strong aromas that mix together nicely.

T- Grapefruit, orange, pine, citrus rind and rye over a nice malt backbone. Rye compliments the flavors and brings them all together very well. Sweet citrus, pine, citrus rind aftertaste. Awesome.

M- Medium to heavy body. Super smooth with a nice oily coating left behind. Dry finish with lingering bitterness.

O- This is one of the the best Rye IPAs I've had. When its fresh, every aspect being graded is flirting with perfection. As it ages, the citrus fades and the rye becomes more prominent, but its still enjoyable. The lower ABV makes it dangerously sessionable, as well.

Photo of donkeyrunner
4.51/5  rDev +19.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

@ Owl Farm, Brooklyn NY

Deep, cloudy orange with a clingy white head. Reeks of dank citrus hops and rye spice. Tastes like it smells. The sweet malt and citrus battle it out with the rye spice and sharp bitterness. A very raw, in your face beer yet balanced too. Very well done.

Photo of micromaniac129
3.97/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Had at the Blue Dog some time ago. Came to me in a tulip with a brownish amber color. the beige head that sat on top was tall and dense.
The aroma was kinda weak all in all but had a fresh hoppy smell. Very sutle rye and malts with some spiciness.
A pleasing earthy taste with hoppys that are more dank then flavorfull. Spicy malts balance nicely making this a very good beer.
I thought it was a bit chewy and sticky on the palate.
I liked this beer it was good and has descent flavor.

Photo of Brenden
3.98/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A sort of bronze, deep and murky dark orange color, this Rye version of Hatter looks the part, sans the cloudines typically accompanying the appearance of dry-hopped beers. It does have some hazy depth, though. A just off-white foam is strong and dense with a retention akin to the structure itself. Lacing is left in firmly-deposited patches.
Herbal with an evident spicy and earthy overtone belying the rye, it's also nicely hopped with strong notes of citrus and leafy bitterness. It's strong and somehow both dusky and bright, which actually makes for a nice combination. To balance, some drier bread notes of toast and crust combine with a bit of caramel sweetness.
The medium body sports a steady and firm carbonation that makes for a good, crisp and creamy movement on the tongue. As the dryness kicks in, it takes a little out of the body, but not too much.

Photo of dwren89
4.53/5  rDev +19.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: deep amber with slight brown, about 19 SRM, great clarity

Aroma: citrusy, floral, piney, spicy, toasted bread

Taste: bready and spicy with distinct floral, citrus, and pine hop character. Toasty and warming, with great refreshing quality on the finish, drying thru the finish,

Mouthfeel: Beautifully medium and smoothly drinkable body, light and nimble on the palate, not heavily weighing

Overall Impression: The best of the RyePAs I have had this far. Beautifully balanced with easily noticeable but not overwhelming rye character, great American citrus/floral/piney hop regimen, and very clean and smooth dry finish. New Holland really knocked it out of the park with this one.

4.6/5

Photo of SportsandJorts
3.37/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Appearance: a orangish-brown color. a foamy fingers worth of head that leaves a bit of a lacing. and good clarity

Smell: citrus and rye mixing together pleasantly

Taste: a nice smooth citrus upfront that turns to a weak rye spicy bitterness. rye is a bit too weak

Mouthfeel: fairly heavy in an unpleasant way. moderate bitterness

Overall: not unique and not perfect enough to be great. well crafted but fairly average taste in terms of rye hoppy beers

Photo of superspak
4/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 ounce bottle into signature pint glass, bottled on 5/9/2013. Pours lightly hazy orange copper color with a 2 finger dense and fluffy off white head with great retention, that reduces to a nice cap that lingers. Nice soapy lacing clings down the glass. Aromas of grapefruit, orange zest, tangerine, floral, pine, spicy rye, caramel, grass, and floral earthiness. Very nice and pleasant aromas with good balance and complexity of citrus hops with moderate rye/caramel malt balance; and good strength. Taste of grapefruit, orange zest, tangerine, caramel, floral, pine, spicy rye, grass, and floral earthiness. Decent amount of pine bitterness on the finish; with lingering notes of citrus, citrus zest, caramel, spicy rye, floral, pine, grass, and floral earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Very nice balance and complexity of citrus hops with rye/caramel malts; with a great malt/bitterness balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium carbonation and body; with a creamy and moderately sticky mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with minimal warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is a damn nice Rye pale ale! All around nice balance and complexity of hop and malt flavors; and extremely smooth to drink. Really enjoyed this one.

Photo of BEERchitect
3.51/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

The husky, grainy, and harsh earthiness of rye grains make them difficult. Hard to use in bread making, beer making, and whisky making- the taste isn't all that compelling either. But when used in conjunction with hops, the steely grain's usefulness becomes not just known- but celebrated.

In keeping with the IPA appearances, the beer is amber in hue except the darker bronze tinge of rye casts a darker color upon the beer. Surprisingly clear, there's no real indication of dry-hopping on the appearance front. Firmly capped with a frothy off-white head, its retention is tremendous and its lacing is concentric and constant. It's simply a charming looking ale.

With its signature upstart, the scent of citrus and grass deliver a herbaceous overtone right from the start. Pine needles and an overall stemmy character rings true throughout the "Hatter" series. But this time, its the rye that which the hops bounce from- providing a slightly more robust aroma and taste of bread crust, toasted whole-grain, bran, and an overall spicy earthen character that not only rides along side of its hop dominance but exacerbates it. Hearty sweet to taste- cooked caramel starts nutty and finishes woodish.

Medium-light in body, the stronghold of malt extends deep into finish and allowing for a greater impression of malt and rye. But its boldly dry finish exposes mild grain and hop derived astringency to accompany a minty-type warmth.

Where many of the Hatters are husky, rustic, raw and somewhat lacking refinement- the rye character here continues the rough-and-tumble attitude and actually reinforces it with stern quality.

Photo of hooliganlife
3.73/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

pours a bright copper, thick creamy head, nice retention.

light citrus hop, more of a dominating sweet malt. light spice.

very sweet and malty, light rye spice carries. light citrus and grapefruit hops. some earth and resin pine.

light to moderate carbonation. fairly full body.

overall, pretty decent. well balanced.

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Rye P.A. Hatter from New Holland Brewing Company
85 out of 100 based on 317 ratings.