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Rye P.A. Hatter - New Holland Brewing Company

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Reviews: 112
Hads: 327
rAvg: 3.76
pDev: 7.98%
Wants: 7
Gots: 25 | FT: 0
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Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Rye Beer |  6.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: fear025 on 07-02-2010

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Photo of Sammy
3.61/5  rDev -4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Barnyard aroma. Cloudy light brown bodied, a quarter inch of retained head. Something funky with a nice rye edge that leads the mild spiciness. Good drinkability. Bomber with outstanding carbonation that not only foamed through, but popped my locking cap afterward. (265 characters)

Photo of BEERchitect
3.51/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

The husky, grainy, and harsh earthiness of rye grains make them difficult. Hard to use in bread making, beer making, and whisky making- the taste isn't all that compelling either. But when used in conjunction with hops, the steely grain's usefulness becomes not just known- but celebrated.

In keeping with the IPA appearances, the beer is amber in hue except the darker bronze tinge of rye casts a darker color upon the beer. Surprisingly clear, there's no real indication of dry-hopping on the appearance front. Firmly capped with a frothy off-white head, its retention is tremendous and its lacing is concentric and constant. It's simply a charming looking ale.

With its signature upstart, the scent of citrus and grass deliver a herbaceous overtone right from the start. Pine needles and an overall stemmy character rings true throughout the "Hatter" series. But this time, its the rye that which the hops bounce from- providing a slightly more robust aroma and taste of bread crust, toasted whole-grain, bran, and an overall spicy earthen character that not only rides along side of its hop dominance but exacerbates it. Hearty sweet to taste- cooked caramel starts nutty and finishes woodish.

Medium-light in body, the stronghold of malt extends deep into finish and allowing for a greater impression of malt and rye. But its boldly dry finish exposes mild grain and hop derived astringency to accompany a minty-type warmth.

Where many of the Hatters are husky, rustic, raw and somewhat lacking refinement- the rye character here continues the rough-and-tumble attitude and actually reinforces it with stern quality. (1,625 characters)

Photo of emerge077
3.38/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

"Rye Hatter"
Review from written notes.

Lightly murky orange, lasting white foam. Earthy, grassy aroma, lightly spicy but mellow overall.

Bready and mild, lightly sweet. Some dry hay notes, spicy with earthy hops, rye lends a dry, spicy finish to the beer. Medium level of carbonation, medium bodied. Overall somewhat nondescript, not something i'd pick up again, but worth a try. A mellow introductory Rye Beer.

Thanks Justin for sharing this one! (454 characters)

Photo of zeff80
3.97/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Poured out a clear, golden burgundy color with a one-finger, off-white head of foam. It left some thin rings of foam.

S - It smelled of citrus, rye and light pine notes. Some caramel notes, too.

T - It tasted of rye bread, caramel and some earthy, grassy, bitter hops.

M - It was crisp, sharp and smooth. A medium bodied ale with a dry finish.

O - This is a pretty nice rye IPA. Another good version of the Mad Hatter series. (433 characters)

Photo of oberon
4.07/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Part of the new "Hatter" series.Poured into an imperial nonic a dull slightly hazed burnt orange tinged copper with a large fluffy two finger slight off white head atop.Love the aromas,bold spicy rye mixed with sharp citric hops,its no holds barred aroma wise.Sharp and a little tingly in the mouth and on the lighter side,a good mix of citric hops and spicy rye,there is a bit of toastiness in there.A solid American style rye beer,loaded with citric hops and full on spicy rye. (479 characters)

Photo of womencantsail
3.68/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks for sharing this one, Bobby.

A: The pour is a cloudy orange color with a finger of off-white head.

S: A nice citrus hop note up front along with some spicy rye malt with a nice bread note. Light grass and pine with some light fruitiness. Not the most fragrant of beers, though.

T: Fairly bitter with a decent pine flavor. Some grass and citrus peel, with a nice enough grapefruit flavor. Not much in the way of fruits, though. A decent amount of malt in rye, toffee, and caramel.

M: Medium in body with a medium level of carbonation.

O: Slightly disappointing. A decent hop flavor, but nothing that really impressed me. (631 characters)

Photo of kojevergas
2.23/5  rDev -40.7%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.25

BOTTLE: Silver foil-ed over pry-off pressure cap. 2014 vintage. 1 pint 6 fl oz. Brown glass. Appealing label art.

Reviewed live as a rye pale ale per the label. Expectations are above average given the brewery. Purchased in CO and served cold into a Sam Adams perfect pint glass at high altitude in Castle Rock, CO.

No bubble show forms as it's poured.

HEAD: 1.5 fingers wide. Beige colour. Average thickness, creaminess, fullness, complexion, and consistency. Above average frothiness. Nice retention - ~5 minutes. Light, even lacing sticks to the sides of the glass as the head recedes.

BODY: Vibrant amber-copper. Translucent and transparent. Clean; no yeast particulate or hop sediment is visible.

Appears well-carbonated. It's not spot on for a pale ale, but I guess the rye does have an effect on colour. Still, it's far from unique or special. This is a pretty middle-of-the-road appearance for a pale. I'm optimistic.

AROMA: Sweet sticky caramalt dominates, lending far too much sweetness for a pale and seemingly drowning out the hops. Hopwise, I get nectary notes, faint pine, and some herbal/evergreen character. Rye's signature spiciness is in there but's hidden; I doubt I'd notice it if I tried this beer blind.

Aromatic intensity is average.

No yeast character, alcohol, or off-notes are detectable.

Suggests an overly sweet pale ale with insufficient hopping.

TASTE: Caramalt dominates the taste as well, to its detriment. I have trouble finding even any pale malts. Rye's spiciness does flourish on the climax, but it's not enough to save this flavour profile from its fundamental imbalance/overdone malt sweetness. And it suffers from a disgusting green apple/candied apple/caramelized apple note I despise. The hops get eclipsed, but I do find traces of herbal and evergreen hop character; maybe a hint of pine too? The ingredients were just poorly selected here; this should be a pale malt heavy flavour profile with bright hop notes like citrus and resins.

Average/underwhelming depth, duration, and intensity of flavour. There's no notable complexity/intricacy, nuance, or subtlety. It's a pretty overt build, lacking much cohesion. Not a gestalt flavour profile by any means. Sadly, there is some noticeable alcohol warmth as well. A problematic pale ale buid that I'm having trouble liking.

As it warms, I even find some marshmallow emerging - an awful flavour in a pale ale build.

TEXTURE: Smooth, wet, crisp, overcarbonated, too full-bodied, overly thick, and slightly syrupy, with an off-puttingly sticky feel on the palate. This texture is ill-suited to its intended style and doesn't do a good job of complementing the taste. Subpar execution. Fails to elevate the beer.

OVERALL: Disappointing work from New Holland. The execution didn't deliver on the potential of the premise. In order to fix this, they'd need to go to back to the drawing board; even the fundamental ingredient selection decisions are wrong. Not sure what they were after with this one. I'll finish the bottle with effort, but I definitely wouldn't buy this again. Why is it so damned sweet?

High D (3,112 characters)

Photo of mdfb79
3.8/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From 0618/11 notes. 2011 vintage, poured from a 22 oz. bottle into my Bruery tulip.

a - Pours a murky hazy orange color with one finger of fluffy off white head and mod carb evident

s - Smells of citrus hops, fruity malts, tropical fruits, pine hops, and very light grain and rye. Mostly citrus hops and fruit here, a very nice smelling IPA.

t - Taste of oranges, citrus hops, tropical fruits, fruity malts. Again, the tiniest bit of rye. Light bitterness but not too much.

m - Medium body and moderate carbonation, smooth body. An easy to dirnk IPA, and not a lot of bitterness in the mouth.

o - Overall I liked this one and think it's right up there with the normal version. I liked this one better than farmhouse Hatter personally. Would get it again. (759 characters)

Photo of superspak
4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 ounce bottle into signature pint glass, bottled on 5/9/2013. Pours lightly hazy orange copper color with a 2 finger dense and fluffy off white head with great retention, that reduces to a nice cap that lingers. Nice soapy lacing clings down the glass. Aromas of grapefruit, orange zest, tangerine, floral, pine, spicy rye, caramel, grass, and floral earthiness. Very nice and pleasant aromas with good balance and complexity of citrus hops with moderate rye/caramel malt balance; and good strength. Taste of grapefruit, orange zest, tangerine, caramel, floral, pine, spicy rye, grass, and floral earthiness. Decent amount of pine bitterness on the finish; with lingering notes of citrus, citrus zest, caramel, spicy rye, floral, pine, grass, and floral earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Very nice balance and complexity of citrus hops with rye/caramel malts; with a great malt/bitterness balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium carbonation and body; with a creamy and moderately sticky mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with minimal warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is a damn nice Rye pale ale! All around nice balance and complexity of hop and malt flavors; and extremely smooth to drink. Really enjoyed this one. (1,274 characters)

Photo of Huhzubendah
4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On draft at Churchkey in D.C.

The beer is hazy and light orange hued, with 1/4" of white head and lasting retention.

Nice combo of hops and rye here. Well done. Smooth on the palate, well balanced, and full of flavor. The beer leads off with some citrus and pine, then a nice toasted bread, malt taste kicks in and balances everything out. The finish is a pleasant blend of the lightly bitter hops with a hint of the rye.

I would happily order this again. (458 characters)

Photo of tdm168
4.03/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - orangish amber with a big, white, soft, thick head that has great retention

S - citrusy, faintly spicy, earthy

T - spicy, floral, piny, earthy, bitter, faint bread, peppery

M - medium bodied, smooth, well carbonated

This is a really nice, smooth, peppery rye ipa. I would have preferred a more citrusy hop character to go along with the spicy rye, but this hop character does it's job and is nicely balanced. It's definitely worth a try. (445 characters)

Photo of billab914
3.8/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle into my Southern Tier glass. Dark amber in color with a thick, frothy, white head to it. Pretty good head retention with some nice lacing as well.

The aroma mixes a moderate juicy, citrusy hoppy presence with a sweeter, bready, malty, rye flavor. It has a little more focus on the malty, rye flavors then say Hop Rod or Rye PA, but the hoppiness that is there is nice.

The taste shows a lot more of a malty, caramel presence to it then the aroma suggested. I get a ltitle bit of cocoa to it as well. The hoppiness is definitely much more reserved, but shows more in the finish with some citrus rind bitterness. Pretty nice flavors overall, but definitely as hoppy as I thought it would be.

The mouthfeel is a little above medium bodied with carbonation being moderate. Overall it was a pretty good beer, but not amazing in the style. Nice to try but I don't think it beats out the readily available Hop Rod or Rye PA for me. Still a very good beer overall though. (981 characters)

Photo of corby112
3.26/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a slightly hazy, dark golden orange color with a 2.5 finger frothy, yellowish off-white head. Excellent retention, slowly fading into a thick lasting ring that coats the glass with chunks of soapy lacing.

Earthy, floral aroma with lots of spicy, piny hops along with a sweet malt backbone and prominent rye character. Pretty dank smelling with uber fresh, resinous, oily hops. Lots of sweetness from the rye complimented by hints of caramel, toffee and biscuit. The sweetness from the rye and malt take away from the earthiness of the hops but it still smells pretty good.

Chewy medium body with a blast of dry, bitter hops that linger over the sweetness and spice int a bone dry finish. Lots of earthy bitter pine flavor up front that dominates the flavor a bit. The hop profile is a bit one dimensional with a slight spicy presence which could be coming from the rye. The rye compliments the sweet malt notes but I expected it to be more prominent in the flavor. Underneath the bitterness there are hints of rye, biscuit, toffee, hazelnut and caramel.

The malt backbone is a bit too strong for my liking and the hop profile could be a bit more complex. The rye is stronger n the nose than the flavor and I'm not sure if it improved the beer any. If anything it added a strong spicy presence that didn't care for. Still, this beer isn't bad, just not terribly interesting. (1,384 characters)

Photo of rhoadsrage
4.37/5  rDev +16.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a tulip glass)

A- This beer has a slightly hazy deep orange body with a swirl of microbubbles and a super thick beige head that takes up 3/4 of the glass and sticks to the glass in clouds with each sip.

S- The rich fragrant fresh hop pellet aroma is full of green and citrus notes with a strong support of fresh caramel malt that is dry. There is a touch of earthy rye that comes through as the beer opens up. All the aromas blend together and I find my self just huffing the class.

T- The dry spicy grain flavor blends into spicy green hops with a nice bite from hops and grain in the finish. The soft spice and hop hint lingers in the finish with a touch of bitterness coming through as the beer opens.

M- The medium-full mouthfeel has a slightly slick texture and no alcohol heat noticed.

O- This beer is just like picking fresh hops off the vine, the aroma is so powerful and full. The taste was nice but didn't have the depth of the aroma. (964 characters)

Photo of WoodBrew
4.42/5  rDev +17.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2012 Vintage. Poured a slightly hazy orange-ish color with an off white head. In the aroma, a fresh grapefruit like hops and a small rye presence. In the taste, dry notes of rye, mellow grapefruit like hops. A small hop bite and medium bodied mouthfeel, with a dry rye and small hop citrus in the aftertaste. Overall this was a very good beer and will search for more. (368 characters)

Photo of beerthulhu
3.38/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Dark coppery-orange shows a good level of carbonation. A sturdy 1 finger oatmeal tinted head has a bit of sheen to it, is rocky and porous, and holds rather steady for a lengthy amount of time. End of drink covering doesn't leave much on the glass in terms of lacing.

S: Soft rye, soft citrus-pine comes with a low level of aroma.

T: Spicy rye, peppercorn, pine toasted bread crust with a dry caramel grain backing. Spicy, peppery caramel finish.

M: Good level of carbonation is detected on the tongue. Spicy peppery presence warms the inner cheeks. Light malt feel turns frothy on the hold leaving a bit of peppery fade behind and some alcohol warmth.

O: Ok drinkability, flavor shows flashes of peppery caramel spiciness, and a good amount of alcohol which unfortunately covers the rye contribution at times. (821 characters)

Photo of scruffwhor
3.97/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Lots of head overflowing my glass after a modest pour. That same heads recedes very quickly to a thin film of foam that lasts for all twenty two ounces. Ok bubbling.

Spicey and earthy hop aroma with toasted muffins and fresh harvested rye malts.

Nicely toasted rye and barley malts add some bread and biscuit flavors to the spicey earthen flavors of this bitter RYE-PA. I like it and hope they keep thi beer in the regular rotation. (434 characters)

Photo of bluejacket74
3.76/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 ounce bottle, Vintage 2011 as stated on label. Served in a nonic pint glass, the beer pours a somewhat hazy amber/orange color with about an inch off-white head. Head retention and lacing are both good. Aroma is a bit weak but still OK, the brew smells like pine, citrusy and spicy hops, along with a bit of bready malt. Luckily it tastes stronger than the aroma. It tastes like spicy, pine and citrusy (lemon peel) hops, and some caramel and bready malt. The rye gives this brew a nice kick of spice. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's a bit slick and is well carbonated. Easy enough to drink, too. I think this is a decent enough brew, it's better overall than the Oak Aged Mad Hatter I tried right before this. It's worth a try, you could probably do worse for $5.99 a bomber. (778 characters)

Photo of pat61
4.25/5  rDev +13%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

L: Pours hazy amber with s lifht haze that clears as it warms. White, clingy foam collar descends slowly.
S: Spice, rye spice, earthy hops.
T: Starts creamy, malty and spicy, finishes with an astringency and a grapefruit citrus rind hop bitterness that lingers.
F: Rich creamy texture, medium body and carbonation.
O: Fairly mild, flavorful, refreshing and easy to drink. (375 characters)

Photo of avalon07
4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Poured from a bottle to a pint glass. Had an amber color and a slightly hazy consistency. There was an inch of foamy, fairly long-lasting head. Pretty good lacing.

S: A good aroma of rye, hops, malt, and a little citrus.

T: Tasted of rye, some caramel malt, lemon, and nice dose of hops. The rye gives this beer an unusual, sharp characteristic. An interesting flavor.

M: A fair amount of carbonation with a slick finish. Medium-bodied.

O: While this beer is basically a rye/IPA combo (a fact that won't please some people), it is a solid, enjoyable brew. (562 characters)

Photo of barnzy78
4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Vintage 2012.
{I do want to point out that I had an infected bottle of Vintage 2011 last year. Given New Holland's quality of beer, I knew this should have been better than it was and I was excited to see it on the shelves again this year. $4.99 a bottle makes it worth the retry.}

Retry:

22oz bottle, poured into my New Holland 20oz glass. Ale is hazy copper with a tall, frothy off-white head tat holds great retention and leaves lots of chunky lacing on the glass. Aromas are citrus, grapefruit, caramel, fresh pine, floral hop, lemon zest, faint rye in the background. Tastes are complex and juicy with earthy, spicy, peppery rye on the forefront, followed by caramel, toasted grain, pine, and grapefruit. Some faint acetylsalicylic acid on the finish also. Mouth-feel is medium bodied, and the piny hop resins coat the palate and linger on the finish. Overall, I am now satisfied with this beer, and glad I didn't write it off. I love rye beers and was very disappointed after last year's run. This was good, and exactly what I was expecting from New Holland. (1,067 characters)

Photo of Brenden
3.98/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A sort of bronze, deep and murky dark orange color, this Rye version of Hatter looks the part, sans the cloudines typically accompanying the appearance of dry-hopped beers. It does have some hazy depth, though. A just off-white foam is strong and dense with a retention akin to the structure itself. Lacing is left in firmly-deposited patches.
Herbal with an evident spicy and earthy overtone belying the rye, it's also nicely hopped with strong notes of citrus and leafy bitterness. It's strong and somehow both dusky and bright, which actually makes for a nice combination. To balance, some drier bread notes of toast and crust combine with a bit of caramel sweetness.
The medium body sports a steady and firm carbonation that makes for a good, crisp and creamy movement on the tongue. As the dryness kicks in, it takes a little out of the body, but not too much. (865 characters)

Photo of OWSLEY069
3.88/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a hazy orange-ish color with an off white head. In the aroma, grapefruit like hops and a small rye presence. In the taste, dry notes of rye, mellow grapefruit like hops. A small hop bite and medium bodied mouthfeel, with a dry rye and small hop citrus in the aftertaste. Bigger hops than rye, but nice nonetheless. (320 characters)

Photo of mrfrancis
3.71/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A: Pours a clear amber with a thick, creamy white head that leaves a substantial amount of lace as it recedes.

S: Gentle, somewhat muted aromas of caramel, toffee, rye bread, biscuits, cream, herbs, lemon, and orange are present on the nose.

T: Notes of herbs, grass, lemon, lime, and orange vie against maltier flavors of caramel, toffee, sweet cream, biscuit, black pepper, and rye bread. The finish is short and simple with notes of caramel, rye bread, herbs, and lemon.

M: Medium in body, creamy, velvety, and smooth. Carbonation is gentle. This ale is very easy to drink and has a wonderfully soft, smooth texture, but it needs to be slightly better carbonated.

O: Not bad at all. I really like the way the malt and hop flavors separate on the entry and then integrate on the finish. It really shows the drinker how a beer like this is put together. As Rye IPAs go, this one is not really groundbreaking or extreme in any way, but it is very solidly crafted, very approachable, and very flavorful. I like it. (1,017 characters)

Photo of tavernjef
4.06/5  rDev +8%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Gorgoues blurry bronze orange hue crowned with an immensely tall and loftly thickened spongey beige foam that sits like a Hat that won't blow off in a strong wind. A blitz of lacing encompasses the glass edge with thick gluey broken sheeting.

Moderately paced aroma of rough cut rye bread and some dullish orange-sided peachy hoppyness with a bit of popping floral pine.

Flavor is fairly solid for an IPA, pretty good crunchyness about the popping hoppyness which brings in more sweet and bittering pine tones then the aroma. The citrusy stuff is there in a lengthy, yet muted orangeyness with a light spritz of lemon. Has a subdued hint to the rye crispness in front but that's disguarded quickly by the orange toned hops and some light toasty malt background. Grapefruity bitterness parches through as it finishes.

Feel is closing in on a medium body, perhaps a little looser then I'd like at the front but it pulls together quickly with a pretty beefy orange toned hoppyness. A quick snippet of rye crispness sits in there and floats around for a bit within its toasty malt.

Lengthy in hoppy tone overall and pretty solid, but the Oak-Aged Hatter is superior in balance, body, and flavor complexity for the New Holland series of IPA's. (1,243 characters)

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Rye P.A. Hatter from New Holland Brewing Company
85 out of 100 based on 112 ratings.