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New Holland Sundog Amber Ale - New Holland Brewing Company

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New Holland Sundog Amber AleNew Holland Sundog Amber Ale

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BA SCORE
80
good

327 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 327
Reviews: 167
rAvg: 3.52
pDev: 12.78%
Wants: 4
Gots: 10 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Amber / Red Ale |  5.25% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 11-01-2002)
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sullysbeer

Michigan

1.75/5  rDev -50.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 1 | feel: 3 | overall: 1

Aroma: Malty Sweet with a gentle piney hop aroma. Has a phenolic aroma

Appearance: Deep golden with a reddish hue-ruby like. White head retention that falls.

Flavor: Malty flavor. Has a "band-aid-like" or medicinal flavor. Just like, literally, chewing on a band aid, nasty! Piney bitterness and is hard to pick up on any other flavors because the band aid flavor is masking them.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied Ale

Overall Impression: This beer is obviously infected some how, however, these guys are EXCELLENT BREWERS and would continue to purchase their beers.

Phenolics are more prominent as an off-aroma, but also are imparted in the flavor of beer. It is described as medicinal, band-aid-like, smoky, clove-like, and plastic-like. Except in certain styles where small amounts are appropriate, phenols are hugely unacceptable. There are many sources of contamination:

* Chlorophenols exist in municipal water supplies and residue from chlorine-based sanitizers. They can affect beer in parts-per-billion (ppb)! Avoidance of both should be given; find a substitute water supply and avoid chlorine-based sanitizers altogether.

* Phenols extracted from malt during the mash and sparge are polyphenols, also called tannins. They interact with proteins to form chill or permanent haze. If oxidized through hot-side aeration, they create oxidized fusel alcohols. Proper sparging, and avoidance of excessive sparging can reduce the phenolic production. Also, sparge water should be low in alkalinity, and not in excess of 167°F. Likewise, extract brewers should avoid boiling grains.

* Phenols are also derived from certain yeast strains that produce aromatic alcohols. Bavarian wheat beers produce acceptable levels of phenols by creating 4-vinyl guaiacol that results in a pleasing clovelike phenolic tone under the correct conditions. Careful selection of yeast can eliminate undesired affects.

* Wild yeast contamination can harbor within plastic-based equipment, such as polyethylene fermenters and plastic hoses. These materials as soft and permeable, hence difficult to clean. Wild yeasts such as S. diatatius produce minor wort phenols that impart medicinal off-flavors. Migration to glass and stainless replacements are the best solution. Also check for defective bottle caps.

* Smoky phenols are a byproduct of smoked malts, such as in Rauchbier, and Scotch ales. Low amounts are appropriate, but excess use of malt can be overbearing.

Serving type: bottle

12-05-2006 20:29:43 | More by sullysbeer
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mwbrady12

North Carolina

2/5  rDev -43.2%

07-28-2013 23:38:55 | More by mwbrady12
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wingnutz27

Pennsylvania

2/5  rDev -43.2%

06-14-2014 15:42:09 | More by wingnutz27
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HumphreyLee

Pennsylvania

2/5  rDev -43.2%

12-14-2011 07:28:24 | More by HumphreyLee
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ChainGangGuy

Georgia

2.08/5  rDev -40.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

Appearance: Pours a clearish amber body with a foamy white head.

Smell: Light aroma of toasted malts and equally light hops.

Taste: Caramel malts and, ugh, unfortunately what I suspect to be a little DMS (and a little DMS goes a long way).

Mouthfeel: Medium-thin. Mild carbonation.

Drinkability: Its no wonder that Sundog looks so forlorn and inconsolable.

Serving type: bottle

07-29-2007 23:36:08 | More by ChainGangGuy
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ibashmuck

Wisconsin

2.15/5  rDev -38.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Purchased as part of "build-your-own-six-pack" at local grocer. Poured a nice amber/orange with medium head. The smell is very light, and the taste is more or less the same. Some bitterness, but otherwise, nothing really to write about. The mouth feel was the same, nothing left over in there at all. Not bad, per se, just boring.

Serving type: bottle

02-02-2008 15:26:32 | More by ibashmuck
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Pillowburn

Michigan

2.25/5  rDev -36.1%

04-29-2012 19:24:59 | More by Pillowburn
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fellowrs

Ohio

2.25/5  rDev -36.1%

12-18-2013 18:14:44 | More by fellowrs
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mhowell

Ohio

2.48/5  rDev -29.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Nice amber color. Came out with a thick beige head and held it. Carbonated as hell. Decent body, but had a dry, metallic, bitter aftertaste that killed it for me. As it warms up from 55°, the aftertaste is diminishing, a little. I am having a hard time finishing this one. My first beer of '05. Hope the year gets better.

Serving type: bottle

01-01-2005 19:51:07 | More by mhowell
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MillRat

Illinois

2.5/5  rDev -29%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

This beer pours with a nice coppery color, similar to a Marzen. A thin just off-white head fades fast. The aroma is pretty powerfully hoppy, mainly citrusy american hops, and good biscuity malts, too. The flavor lives up to the aroma's promise, but then throws a lot of cloying sweetness in that the toastier malt flavors and hop bitterness fail to balance. This creates a heavy mouthfeel that loiters, rather than just lingers. I was done with this beer flavor-wise before I was done with the bottle. A significant reduction in the heavy. sweet body would go long way to making this a more enjoyable brew.

Even though the BJCP style guidlines are merely guidelines, they do manage to define some palatable beers. I have doubts that this beer comes near the 1.010 to 1.015 FG that BJCP recommends for American Amber Ale, and it is the worse off for it.

Serving type: bottle

12-03-2006 17:14:49 | More by MillRat
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TheBigBoy

Pennsylvania

2.5/5  rDev -29%

04-22-2012 14:53:16 | More by TheBigBoy
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Ford1873

Ohio

2.5/5  rDev -29%

12-31-2011 17:08:14 | More by Ford1873
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jimelee108

Illinois

2.5/5  rDev -29%

02-16-2012 23:01:25 | More by jimelee108
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jackndan

Illinois

2.63/5  rDev -25.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Sundog Amber: Brownish colored beer with a very nice head and nice lacing. My notes indicate that this was, of all things, a tea flavored beer. Think liptons iced tea, and you’re getting warmer. This “beer” had a flat uninspiring taste, not much going on here. Not so good.

Serving type: bottle

04-14-2003 20:40:31 | More by jackndan
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cabsandking

Ohio

2.63/5  rDev -25.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a nice orange color with quite a bit of floaties and a very thin white lace. Aromas are scant; bitter hops, mild fruity malt, and some florals. Flavor is on the hoppier side with notes that are bitter, dry and some lemon, grass towards the end. Roasted grains, bisquity notes for balance but really lacking in depth. Medium body, descent mouthfeel with a good creamy carbonation. Dry, sugary, light graininess, and a touch of pine in the finish.

Serving type: bottle

10-30-2007 16:17:26 | More by cabsandking
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Jpatrix

Michigan

2.68/5  rDev -23.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Sampled at brewery.
A = A nice looking amber but light in color. Small head with quick disapperaing head.
S = A light smokey flavor but not overly impressive.
T = Not bad but a bit thin.
MF = Thin on flavor and a bit "bitey"
OA = Not overly impressed but not that bad.

Serving type: on-tap

07-08-2010 04:04:17 | More by Jpatrix
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cnbrown313

Illinois

2.75/5  rDev -21.9%

04-07-2014 15:54:45 | More by cnbrown313
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leadahmer

Michigan

2.75/5  rDev -21.9%

12-12-2013 05:05:02 | More by leadahmer
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olivermonster

Michigan

2.75/5  rDev -21.9%

05-11-2013 10:30:51 | More by olivermonster
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SpongeRuiner

Michigan

2.75/5  rDev -21.9%

12-10-2012 00:36:45 | More by SpongeRuiner
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salvo

Indiana

2.78/5  rDev -21%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Sundog is a lighter fizzy red beer. Off-white head quickly vanishes with little trace; red-brown liquid. Roasty and malty as well as mildly sour. Not much in the way of hops. Or other flavors. Or complexity. Ends with roasty malt. A little disappointing.

Serving type: on-tap

09-05-2011 02:00:53 | More by salvo
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TastyTaste

Minnesota

2.85/5  rDev -19%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: Copper colored body, much like a PA, maybe a little darker. Creamy white head.

Smell: Lightly metallic, with some malty sweetness. A little grassy, too.

Taste: Big biscuit malt flavors, fruity and full. Does need a bigger hop punch, and the sweetness gets a little obnoxious after a while. Not a bad tasting beer, just not up to par with the style.

Serving type: bottle

09-07-2006 03:18:53 | More by TastyTaste
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TLove

District of Columbia

2.88/5  rDev -18.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured into a hefeweizen glass. 12 oz bottle from mix pack I bought at Pauls in DC. Should not really be in a FALL mix pack (think pumpkin ale, porter, brown ale, oktoberfest, dunkel), but then again, neither should the kolsch.

Decent, amber-mahogony color with a 1/2 finger head and a dissipative head. Reddish molasses scent with a bit of rye and under-ripened cranberries. Slight citrus taste, with some brown sugar and honey. Very dry to the mouth. Its a little sweet on the front end, but pulls back pretty hard as the carbonation falls back. Slight maltiness, but doesnt dominate. Nice, crisp finish, but nothing remarkable here.

Serving type: bottle

10-01-2009 20:34:41 | More by TLove
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tectactoe

Michigan

2.94/5  rDev -16.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.75

Pretty clear and clean amber/light copper color with a small white head that left nice lacing on the glass. This one smells like a fairly generic amber ale, with lots of malt, caramel, and a toasted biscuit backbone. Along the way, you may pick up very, very slight floral notes and hops, but it is very faint. Unfortunately, I'm picking up a kind of weird, off-putting smell; metallic, and even a little "sweaty". Not sure what the deal is there, but it really came through during the last half of the beer. However, it has a pretty nice flavor: caramel, biscuits, malts, maybe even a bit of toasted barley. Near the end, some ever-so-slight fruity hints popped out, but remained fairly sheltered. Just a tad of sweetness and an average amount of carbonation give a little itty-bitty bite on the back of the tongue as this one washes down. Fairly thin body all around.

Not bad, but not very good either. One of my least favorite brews from New Holland, I would most likely pass this beer up next time, only because there are probably better options available where this can be had.

Serving type: bottle

09-27-2012 03:31:42 | More by tectactoe
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scott

Ohio

2.98/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

V.07
Dark amber with nice frothy head that lingers and sheets nicely.
Nice sweet floral and bready nose.
Taste is rather unspectacular, but I'm not the biggest amber fan.
Creamy-to-dry (if that's possible) finish after a spritsy pull.
Easy to drink, but not what I would consider thirst quenching, nor does it have any complexity that draws you in to want more than a bottle if different bottles were available.
Edit-Drinking another one today, and I just don't like it. Taste is too strong with a pine/grasscuttings character.

Serving type: bottle

04-19-2007 01:47:41 | More by scott
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New Holland Sundog Amber Ale from New Holland Brewing Company
80 out of 100 based on 327 ratings.