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Incorrigible - New Holland Brewing Company

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87
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45 Reviews
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Reviews: 45
Hads: 353
rAvg: 3.88
pDev: 8.25%
Wants: 13
Gots: 62 | FT: 5
Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Berliner Weissbier |  4.90% ABV

Availability: Spring

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Beer added by: Sammy on 06-09-2013

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Reviews: 45 | Hads: 353
Photo of Sammy
3.71/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Mondial 2013 one-off. Average mouthfeel. Hits the style, but not as sour as others I have had in the style. No head on pale yellow body. Bretty Sugary residual flavour. Simplistic but Nice changeup at the fest. Good drinkability and I would try it again. (254 characters)

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.71/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Thanks to GRG1313 for sharing this one at his tasting.

Pours a clear yellow with a foamy white head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace slowly drip into the remaining beer on the drink down. Smell is slightly sour with malt, grain, fruit, and acidic aromas. Taste is much the same with sour grain and fruit flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of acidity on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer that is tasty and refreshing. (570 characters)

Photo of nmann08
3.5/5  rDev -9.8%

On draft, pours a clear, super pale yellow. The carbonation looks a little off, with zero head, very still. It looks like pale apple juice

The nose is pear, white grape, a little bit of oak, with bread dough and yeast. There is a little bit of sweet funk coming through too. The flavor is slightly tart, more pear and apples, grape skins, a bit dry. I get lots of wood on the backend of this. Mouthfeel is fine, this is very drinkable, but the dry and tart don't go together well. This isn't my favorite from them. (522 characters)

Photo of brentk56
3.84/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Pours a clear pale honey color with a modest head that descends somewhat quickly; not much lacing

Smell: A little bready, a little tart and a little funky

Taste: Acetic and fruity, with a hint of lemon and strawberry tartness; crisp and dry, oaky finish

Mouthfeel: Light bodied with moderate carbonation

Overall: Easy to drink and a bit of a Berliner on training wheels; quite enjoyable (402 characters)

Photo of BEERchitect
3.74/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Admittedly, I had to look up "incorrigible" simply to see why the term would be used in the naming of this "White Sour". Incorrigible seems to apply to corruptible children. So I'm thinking that this a juvenile delinquent of a beer.

Pouring not-so-white, the sour pours with a peachy gold hue with a still and mild haze. A dainty white lace forms on the surface and breaks apart halfway through the session. Looking much like rose wine thereafter, the sour ale escapes any need for lace or long-lasting retention.

Sharp aromas pierce right through the nose with dry white wine, tart cider, apple vinegar and the distinct mustiness of dried lemons and limes. Its mild pungency is dusty, straw and hay-like but without crossing over to barnyard character.

Its vinous character also shows in taste as the sharp acidity of sour grapes play out on the early palate. With is very slight sweetness, and terse malt character is of dry grain and a hint of thin honey and powdered sugar that gives the sourness a "Sweetheart" floral candy taste. But the middle invites a rounded salty tone to heighten the sense of citrusy sourness in much the same that margaritas do. Only in the finish does an aftertaste of wheat pose a bready taste long after its palate-stripping sourness subsides.

Thin to taste, its the clean sour taste that's celebrated. Its mild creaminess is short-lived as the light candy sweetness also falls to the wayside. What's left is a palate cleansing middle with strong lactic acidity. Its finish is clean, fruity and somewhat seltzer water-like.

This Berlinerweiss is hardly unruly. Its sourness is as comfortable as it is challenged as some of these "white sours" can be much more sour than this. But not as full or sweet as others, Incorrigible is a formidable German-style Sour Ale that makes me crave pairings of clams or oily fish. (1,852 characters)

Photo of emerge077
3.78/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Picked up a bottle of this after trying it and remembering it wasn't bad, also $5 a bomber. Well, we have "white" IPAs and stouts, now a" white sour" whatever that means.

Pours a pale gold with rapidly rising trails of champagne carbonation. Head fades away rapidly to nothing, which also resembles champagne, but kind of a visual bummer.

Aroma is nice, crisp tart crabapple and very light traces of barrel funk.

Taste is bracing at first, moderately sour with a lasting dry puckering finish. Lactobacillus, crabapple, white grape, vague water cracker malt. Very clean and pretty acidic. Could use a little more complexity, but for the price I'm not really complaining. Light and effervescent feel, works well with fatty foods like cheese and charcuterie. Good palate cleanser. (783 characters)

Photo of superspak
4.1/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22 ounce bottle into tulip glass, bottled on 10/3/2013. Pours fairly crystal clear golden amber color with a 1-2 finger fairly dense white head with solid retention, that reduces to a thin spotty cap that lingers. Light spotty lacing clings around the glass, with a fair amount of streaming carbonation. Aromas of sour green apple, lemon, lime, pear, white wine, wheat, hay, straw, vinegar, musty funk, oak, light leather, light pepper, and yeast earthiness. Damn nice aromas with good complexity of fruity/funky yeast ester, oak, and light-moderate malt notes; with good strength. Taste of sour green apple, lemon, lime, pear, white wine, wheat, hay, straw, vinegar, musty funk, oak, light leather, light pepper, and yeast earthiness. Fair amount of fruity/earthy tartness on the finish; with lingering notes of sour green apple, lemon, pear, white wine, wheat, hay, straw, vinegar, musty funk, oak, light leather, and yeast earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Damn nice balance and complexity of fruity/funky yeast, oak, and light-moderate malt flavors; with a great malt/tartness balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium carbonation and light-medium bodied; with a very smooth, crisp, and fairly acidic mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with minimal warming present after the finish as expected of 4.9%. Overall this is an excellent Berliner weisse! All around great complexity and balance of fruity/funky yeast, oak, and light-moderate malt flavors; and very smooth and crisp to drink. I enjoyed this one a lot. (1,555 characters)

Photo of Huhzubendah
4/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by RussianDragon. Beer and music. ¿Que hora es?

The beer is light golden and clear with nary a trace of head. Aromas of white wine, subtle peach character, apple, grape skin, oak, brett. Apple juice and white wine. Like communion...sorta. Light acetic character. White grape juice. Light in body with some prickly carbonation in the back end. Let's go for a walk. (379 characters)

Photo of Stinkypuss
4.39/5  rDev +13.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Pours a light yellow color with a white fiercely crackly head that dies down to a solid half inch. The aroma is funky, sour and lactic with some aceto going on too. The flavor carries and intense lemon rind sour, small oaky dryness, biscuit, dry saltine cracker, and a kiss of herbal hops show up in the finish. Really near puckering and complex sourness that does not want to let go. Well carbonated, nearly dry, but very drinkable and refreshing. Overall, this is a standout version of the style and quite worth picking up. (530 characters)

Photo of bluejacket74
3.95/5  rDev +1.8%

22 ounce bottle. Served in a Prairie Teku glass, the beer pours a mostly clear gold color with an inch white head that stuck around a while. There isn't much lacing. The brew smells mostly like wheat/grainy malt, and some green apples and grape skins. Aroma is nice, but doesn't seem very tart. Luckily, the tartness really comes out in the flavor of this brew. It tastes like green apples, vinegar, white grapes, lemons/lemon peel, wood, earthiness and wheat/grainy malt. Mouthfeel/body is light, it's a bit slick and has low/moderate carbonation. I thought this was a good brew, it's certainly nice and refreshing. And at $5.99 a bottle, it's definitely worth a try at that price! (691 characters)

Photo of DrDemento456
3.95/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

I would like to thank the cleaver marketing of Giant Eagle for this purchase. They marked this bottle at an affordable 6 bucks next to a 2011 New Holland Envious for 12 dollars. Very similar labels and for half the price I thought it was the same beer for half the price. Seeing the higher review makes it an even better buy.

A - Pour is very fizzy giving me an inch of head that fades quickly like champagne. The color is a mild orange yellow bright and clear.
S - Sour grapes and muskiness mostly from the oak I guess. Very remnant of a Flanders Red.
T - White wine and grape skin sourness not like a "sour" but for a second I did get some apple vinegar that caught me off by surprise. Repeated sips give me the same sour blast followed by mind oak and fading to a bit of fruity yeasts. Tasty stuff.
M - Light to medium it borders session ability and isn't too sourly offensive to have a bomber or two.

Overall I am impressed with this one not too sour, mild oaky finish, and wild yeasts balance out the finish. I may get a second bomber if it's still around since this beer is reasonably price at just 6 bucks. (1,115 characters)

Photo of pat61
4.5/5  rDev +16%

Beer has a big lemony tart nose, pours hazy straw under a quickly diminishing 1” off-white foam cap. Has a funky, tart, sour, lemony, refreshing palate with light wheat notes. Light and effervescent. (201 characters)

Photo of barczar
3.81/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Brilliantly clear as water, with a head that dissipates, literally, to nothing.

Grainy aroma, slightly sour, with a bit of floral hops.

Flavor is far more sour. Very acetic, a touch lactic. Given the blue Sunday, I didn't expect such sour notes.

Wow. Surprised. Not much character there, other than the tart/sour notes. Great for a palate refresher! A little more acetic than most Berliners I've had. (404 characters)

Photo of tigg924
3.93/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: 1/4 inch head, high carbonation, gold yellow in color, clear

Smell: light apple, sour mix

Taste: big lemon, slight sourness, and a touch of apple

Mouthfeel: light body, sour with prickly sourness, high carbonation

Overall: A solid Berliner Weiss beer. Nice lemony taste to it. I have had better in the style, but would not pass this up if I could find bottles of it. (382 characters)

Photo of Pencible
3.92/5  rDev +1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

A: This poured a clear light gold with quickly dissipating white head.
S: It smelled like sour apples and tart vinegar, with some funky oak and white grapes.
T: It tasted like puckering apple cider vinegar and funky oak, with some sour white grapes and a little mellow wheat. It had a clean and lasting sour aftertaste.
M: It was watery with moderate carbonation. Light body.
D: This was a very sour wheat ale, with bold and complex scent and taste. The body was a little flatter than I would prefer, and the finish was a little harsh, so it needed to be sipped. Age may improve, but this is already a really enjoyable drink fresh. (631 characters)

Photo of StoutHunter
3.78/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Short Review. This is a nice Sour Ale, it's pretty standard for the style and I think it had just the right amount of sourness to it without being too acidic. It had a nice citrus flavor with some lemons seeming to stick out the most and the mouthfeel seemed to be the aspect that was truest to style. I enjoyed it and I would drink it again. (345 characters)

Photo of ThisWangsChung
3.05/5  rDev -21.4%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

22 oz bottle into a goblet.

A: Pours a clear golden color. The head is about a finger high, with a white shade. Retention flat-out sucks, and there isn't much lacing left on the glass. It looks like a flat, cheap lager basically.

S: I'm a bit surprised by the acetic presence here. Some notes of lacto and cheesy funk can be found, but given how tart it smells, it could pass for a decent sour ale at times. But it's not perfect - I'm not sure where this faint meaty presence is coming from. Still, though, a pleasant surprise coming from a Berliner.

T: Oh wow, that is tart! As expected, the tart attack is front loaded on the palate (primarily acetic/vinegary, but there's still some lacto in there). Once it fades, though, the flavor transforms into mostly diacetyl. Awww maaan. And really, this is all it brings - tartness and some lesser buttered popcorn. No subtle fruitiness, no perceptible wheat, no nothing. Even worse, it doesn't seem to integrate that well - if it did, I might just be singing its praises right now.

M: The feel is pretty rough/tannic, as expected from a sour. Because of the diacetyl, though, it doesn't really go down that easily. There's a lot of carbonation as well.

O: I'll give it credit - it's both sour AND cheap ($5/bomber). It just doesn't seem to have much balance, though. Sure, the sourness is nice, but it's devoid of the lesser subtleties that make sour ales great. Since it's so cheap for a sour, I still think it's worth trying if one needs a cheap tart fix. (1,508 characters)

Photo of homebrew311
3.66/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

I saw this bottle for 4.99 and couldn't believe it. I asked the store clerk if it wsa a mistake and meant to say 14.99 (the price point for other New Holland sours), I was assured that the 4.99 was correct, how could I pass it up?? Pours a clear golden with no head. The nose features a heavy waves of lactobacillus along with notes of corn, wheat, and lemon. A touch of white wine and oak makes an appearance as well. The taste is plenty tart with wheat, grain, lemon, grape, and oak all present. It picks up in tartness as it goes and has a nice crisp finish. Mouthfeel is well carbonated and very light in body. Overall, not a bad Berliner at all. There is a nice wave of sourness and a high level of drinkability. Worth a try! (730 characters)

Photo of MattyG85
4.45/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 22 oz. bottle into a chalice.

Appearance: Pours a deep ruby amber with a moderate amount of bubbles. Slight finger of off white head that settles into a thin patchy layer.

Smell: A sour, tart, and juicy aroma with a scent of lacto yeast and fruits. Upfront scent of funky Brett and lacto yeast giving some vinegar like and acidic hints. Spice hints of white pepper. Big mix of fruit aromas with hints of sour cherries, white grapes, berries, green apples, pear, lemon, and orange. Also some good hints of oak and wood. Malt hints of grains, straw, and wheat. A really nice aroma.

Taste: Like the smell hints at, a nicely tart, sour, and juicy Wild taste with notes of funky yeast, fruits, and oak. Upfront presence of lacto Brett yeast with funky notes of vinegar along with some white pepper and farmhouse funk. Good notes of oak and wood. Fruit notes of sour cherries, berries, white grape, green apple, lemon, pear, and orange. Backing malt notes of wheat, grains, and straw. A really nice taste.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with a high level of carbonation. Acidic, juicy, puckering, and fairly drying on the finish.

Overall: A really good take on a Sour. Nice mix of funky yeast, fruit, and spice. Really nicely priced too. (1,249 characters)

Photo of KYGunner
3.93/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is just what one is looking for in the world of funky, sour beer. Super easy to drink, right amount of taste and just the right amount of tangy sour funk.

The nose is light with notes of sour tangy wheat. The wheat is very noticeable and has a fresh outdoor smell. The sour tang is more lemon rind and vinegar.

The flavor is set with an undercurrent of wheat malt but the pithy lemon rind and balsamic properties are more prevalent. A bit of Apple and pear surface briefly and add to the character.

The feel is low on pucker factor, high on drinkability but a touch watery. Otherwise this is a great summer beer or overall change of pace. (646 characters)

Photo of JayQue
3.84/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A nice light abv beer with big flavor. Pours a clear, light copper/burnished gold color with a very small highly carbonated head that dissipates fast. Very little lacing on the Chimay goblet.

The aroma is mostly tart sour apple, fairly strong. Flavor is good. tart sour apple, a fair amount of oak and a little wheat bitterness.

Mouthfeel is tart, the sourness is just right, not a heavy-duty vinegar experience. I drank the whole bottle and enjoyed it all the way!!! (473 characters)

Photo of siege06nd
4.2/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

A. Pours a clear straw gold, maybe light honey gold towards the center. Minimal head that quickly burns away. No lacing of which to speak.

S. A nice, dry wine-like quality dominates the nose...bright grapes, some barn must, hay, and a little funk. Not that dissimilar from a pinot grigio.

T. Quite tart, more sour than expected, but that's a good thing. Bright vinous notes with a bracing acidity that is tempered by subtle grape fruitiness. The wheat isn't particularly pronounced here and if there's a fault in this beer, it's probably the absence of a strong wheat presence to even out the acidity. With that minor complaint, though, this is really excellent. At $5.00 a bottle, I am very pleased by the quality that New Holland has put into this.

M. Light bodied and crisp, but very much a sour. Slightly unbalanced acidity, which isn't what I would expect from a Berliner style but as a light drinking wild ale, this is quite good.

O. Wow, this was unexpected. I'm used to being underwhelmed by widely available and low cost sour beers, but this impresses me almost as much as The Bruery's Hottenroth. New Holland has made a delightful Berliner Weissbier that straddles the line into a true, full blown American Wild with its potent pucker and undeniable fruitiness. I really really enjoyed this. At half the cost of Hottenroth, this has to be the best Berliner deal out there for a good chunk of the country. (1,437 characters)

Photo of macrosmatic
4.04/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Reviewed from notes. Poured from bomber into a Tampa Bay Brewing Company snifter.

A: Bright, clear gold - almost looks like sparkling apple juice. Modest amount of visible carbonation, with a thin white head that fades fairly quickly.

S: Tart, with sour apples, vinous and some barrel character, and lightly funky.

T: Follows the nose - tartness up front, big apple flavor, natural fruitiness, light barrel woody dryness, white wine, and a touch of funk. Finishes tart and very attenuated.

M: Light body, medium carbonation sensation, and minimal alcohol presence.

O: Tasty, enjoyable, refreshing, and easy to drink. It's not terribly complex or anything, but it is very refreshing. I enjoyed this one. (707 characters)

Photo of cjgiant
4.02/5  rDev +3.6%

Bottle (code F054):
Pours crystal clear light golden. Head is bubbly and fleeting. Nose is herbal tinged sour apple, wine grape, and a bit of lemon. I get a hint of oak as the beer warms.

Taste is crisp sour milk and lemon up front. This does mellow to a mostly sour apple flavor by mid-taste. Carbonation is tickling, but almost an afterthought. Body is light, and the sour flavors make the beer, like them or not. I also get a hint of oakon the palate, but it seems like it is only evident because I am searching for it.

The light tingling carbonation with the decent sour bite work well for me. Would enjoy another glass. (634 characters)

Photo of schoolboy
4.07/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

I saved a bottle of this to pair with my Christmas turkey this year. I am not sure how old it was and it only sat in my basement for a few months, but it seemed pretty much where it should be.

It was a clear yellow with lots of bubbles and did not smell like beer. The sour taste was huge and up front - maybe not like a big Flemish sours, but closer to that than any beer. I think the style listed here is a compromise.

It is easier drinking than truer sours, but it is still huge. The bite keeps on biting. I wish I had more! (529 characters)

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Incorrigible from New Holland Brewing Company
87 out of 100 based on 45 ratings.