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Comrade / Crooked Stave - Dialectic Materialism
Comrade Brewing Company
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- From:
- Comrade Brewing Company
- Colorado, United States
- Style:
- Witbier
- ABV:
- 9.6%
- Score:
- 87
- Avg:
- 3.85 | pDev: 14.55%
- Reviews:
- 2
- Ratings:
- Status:
- Retired
- Rated:
- Oct 06, 2015
- Added:
- Mar 23, 2015
- Wants:
- 0
- Gots:
- 0
No description / notes.
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Ratings by AlexFields:
Rated by AlexFields from Tennessee
4.18/5 rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25
Mar 23, 2015
4.18/5 rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25
Mar 23, 2015
More User Ratings:
Rated by Danny1217 from Florida
4.07/5 rDev +5.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
4.07/5 rDev +5.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
On tap at Crooked Stave last night. Judging from the reviews, this beer is tasting more dry and sour than it used to.
Jun 25, 2015Reviewed by Jugs_McGhee from Colorado
2.21/5 rDev -42.6%
look: 2 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 1.25 | overall: 2
2.21/5 rDev -42.6%
look: 2 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 1.25 | overall: 2
A 9.60% witbier? Hm...
64 fl oz brown glass growler filled at Comrade and served cold into a La Chouffe tulip at high altitude in Castle Rock, CO. Reviewed live as a witbier per the writing on the growler cap.
No bubble show forms as it's poured.
HEAD: None whatsoever. No lacing.
BODY: Translucent cloudy orange. Not the usual bright vibrant yellow. No yeast particulate is visible.
Looks odd for a witbier. Not great-looking.
AROMA: Clove, wheat, a strange hint of booze, and stale citrus peel - maybe orange or lemon. Smells too malty.
Aromatic intensity is average.
Has no real hop aroma aside from generic fruitiness.
TASTE: Too malty. The wheat backbone isn't full enough. The citrus peel is bland and doesn't ring distinct. Lacks a Belgian yeast presence, bringing only light clove. Imbalanced and poorly constructed, with no nuance, intricacy, or subtlety at all.
Not gestalt. Simple, plain, and not even to style, with inadequate yeast guidance and zero complexity.
TEXTURE: Severely flat. Smooth, wet, unrefreshing. Lacks the crispness of a good witbier. Not as light-bodied as it should be.
There's no harmony of texture to taste. Overall presence on the palate is subpar.
OVERALL: Too boozy. Difficult to drink given its low quality. A poor witbier. Why buy this when even Hoegaarden is better? The discerning drinker is best off sticking to Allagash White when in the U.S. This is the poorest work I've had from both breweries involved. The flatness in particular is egregious; I'd blame the format but Comrade themselves filled this less than a week ago. A fundamental failure at the style. And on a side note - why so boozy?
D
May 16, 201564 fl oz brown glass growler filled at Comrade and served cold into a La Chouffe tulip at high altitude in Castle Rock, CO. Reviewed live as a witbier per the writing on the growler cap.
No bubble show forms as it's poured.
HEAD: None whatsoever. No lacing.
BODY: Translucent cloudy orange. Not the usual bright vibrant yellow. No yeast particulate is visible.
Looks odd for a witbier. Not great-looking.
AROMA: Clove, wheat, a strange hint of booze, and stale citrus peel - maybe orange or lemon. Smells too malty.
Aromatic intensity is average.
Has no real hop aroma aside from generic fruitiness.
TASTE: Too malty. The wheat backbone isn't full enough. The citrus peel is bland and doesn't ring distinct. Lacks a Belgian yeast presence, bringing only light clove. Imbalanced and poorly constructed, with no nuance, intricacy, or subtlety at all.
Not gestalt. Simple, plain, and not even to style, with inadequate yeast guidance and zero complexity.
TEXTURE: Severely flat. Smooth, wet, unrefreshing. Lacks the crispness of a good witbier. Not as light-bodied as it should be.
There's no harmony of texture to taste. Overall presence on the palate is subpar.
OVERALL: Too boozy. Difficult to drink given its low quality. A poor witbier. Why buy this when even Hoegaarden is better? The discerning drinker is best off sticking to Allagash White when in the U.S. This is the poorest work I've had from both breweries involved. The flatness in particular is egregious; I'd blame the format but Comrade themselves filled this less than a week ago. A fundamental failure at the style. And on a side note - why so boozy?
D
Reviewed by StonedTrippin from Colorado
3.64/5 rDev -5.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5
3.64/5 rDev -5.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5
there were two versions of this brewed, i think originally for collab fest, one sour with one type of grape must or juice, and the other not sour with a different grape. one riesling for sure, cant recall the other. i wasnt a huge fan of either of these, but i am not a huge fan of imperial pilsener in general, its a style that cant hide its abv, and it always seems a little weird, that dry biscuity malt with all the booze, light and heavy at once. the grape aspect is light in both, and even the soured one isnt all that interesting, virgin, just getting started. like most crooked stave beers, it will likely age amazingly well, but for now just doesnt offer too much unique. brett more than anything else, and the yeast in the not sour one is unimpressive and did a somewhat incomplete job, as there is some residual sugar not just the grape in that one. neither was up to the top standards of either brewery, but the project is very cool. it was fun to try them both at the source this weekend, but they just have way too many good beers on right now to bother with these.
Apr 06, 2015
Comrade / Crooked Stave - Dialectic Materialism from Comrade Brewing Company
Beer rating:
87 out of
100 with
12 ratings
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