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Mad King's Weiss - Victory Brewing Company

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Mad King's WeissMad King's Weiss

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132 Reviews
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Reviews: 132
Hads: 427
Avg: 3.93
pDev: 19.08%
Wants: 25
Gots: 45 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Victory Brewing Company visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
Hefeweizen |  6.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: WVbeergeek on 08-14-2002

Bavaria’s fabled Ludwig was said to be ‘mad’. The same might be said of us for approaching this German beer style with fistfuls of hops beyond the norm for this style and yeast from Belgium!

Malt: Imported two-row German malts, including wheat

Hops: Whole flower German hops

ABV: 6.2%

High-powered with all German malts and the subtle, spicy complexity of our special yeast, Mad King's Weiss offers a quenching quality that can't be beat.
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Photo of pezoids
2.95/5  rDev -24.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Served on tap @ The Victory Brewery

This beer poured a hazy pale yellow with a thin white head. This was a yeasty and sour tasting wheat ale. I wasn't too impressed with this one. I have had this on tap at Ludwig's and I think I enjoyed that version much better. The body was a bit light and thought it could have been more flavorful. The guy next to me had this served in a large, traditional wheat beer glass so why was my serving in an ordinary pint glass? I don't think it affected the taste though...

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Photo of orcrist_cleaver
2.97/5  rDev -24.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A:Dark straw with a fizzy, alka-seltzer like head.

S: Getting a lot of cheap booze on the nose, reminiscent of very strong bubblegum. Corn grains.

M: On the fuller yet slicker body category. Good amount of carbonation and active effervescence. Manages to make a play at dry and fizzy.

T: Strong fruity esters. Lots of yeasty bubblegum and banana. Sweet malts tasting of copper pot distillation. Strong boozy notes, grain husk is prominent. Unrefined, but strong. Mor sour than expected with substantial phenol sweetness. Might have been a skunky btl, but there are better hefeweizens to experiment on next time.

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Photo of falloutsnow
3/5  rDev -23.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

From: On tap @ Blind Pig Brewery, Champaign, IL
Date: Keg tapped 1/10/2013, two days prior
Glass: Weizen glass

Review from notes

Looking forward to Victory's Mad King's Weiss based upon reviews, I quickly sought this out during a tap take-over at the local brewpub. Unfortunately, instead of a fresh, delicious hefeweizen, I found something that was fairly two-dimensional in playing strong, clove-like phenolics against bread-like malts. The bitterness, particularly in the aftertaste, was also offputting. I missed the complexity that I typically enjoy in hefeweizens, notably the banana, mild citrus, bubblegum, and assorted spices, along with the usual slight tartness (none here) and creaminess (this was too thin to be creamy, and too carbonated to be anything but foamy). Ultimately, while this was a drinkable beer, I don't think I appreciated Victory's choice of hops, malt, or yeast when brewing this one: I'd avoid this in the future.

Arrives with a 1.5cm head of fairly clean, white foam. Retention is above average, lasting over two minutes, before settling to a thin cap atop the beer for the duration of the drink. What lacing is left is modest, a few lines and dots scattered across the inner sides of the glass. The body itself is a mostly transparent (so this is more of kristallweizen or filtered weizen, than hefeweizen) golden yellow, with light bringing out pale yellow hues. Carbonation is readily visible and extremely active, streaming from all over the bottom of the glass.

The beer smells alright, a fairly strong yeast and phenolic (clove-like) presence with a background of wheat malt and biscuit-like aromas. The intensity of the phenolics was "something different," not entirely off-putting, but very different than most hefeweizens I've tried.

Tasting opens with somewhat grainy, bread-like malt sweetnes on the front of the palate, with noticeable yeast and clove-like phenolics. Mid-palate is of fairly generous yeast, bread, wheat malt, clove-like phenolics, and bittering hops. Back of palate reminds of the initial flavors, but with stronger yeast and phenolic presence over weaker grainy, bread-like sweetness. Aftertaste is of strong phenolics (clove, but also medicinal) and surprisingly, sharply bitter, which does not go well with the style and makes you want to take another sip as quickly as possible to wash out that particular sensation.

The beer's body is of medium-light to light in weight, with carbonation of medium intensity. The resulting mouthfeel is slightly fizzy at first, but gradually calming down and becoming gently foamy as each sip moves across the palate. Closes fairly dry, with little residual stickines, making that next step fairly desirable.

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Photo of shigg85
3.03/5  rDev -22.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

The bottle is a beautiful blue underused in many label designs -- really sticks out on the shelf. I love Victory's brews, but this was a pretty big let-down. Not much in the way of enticing smells or flavors. It was drinkable and quenching on a hot summer day, but otherwise not really noteworthy. I wouldn't buy it again with so many quality hefes available.

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Photo of TheSixthRing
3.14/5  rDev -20.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

Appearance - Pours hazy and is a gold-tinged yellow color with a white finger width head that fizzes away like a soda, leaving behind a fairly lifeless, barren surface. No lacing.

Smell - Primarily a citrus aroma with lesser notes of banana.

Taste - True to the nose, with a mild, lemon-like citrus flavor being the predominant character throughout. Banana is in there playing second fiddle, while hints of clove spice hit near the finish.

Mouthfeel - Light to medium in body with a fizzy, bitey carbonation that's too aggressive for the style.

Overall - There are some styles that just can't handle a bit of experimentation - hefeweizen seems to be one of them. I like my hefes laid back and completely approachable; the strong citrus and bitey carbonation just doesn't do it for me. You can't put "A European-Style Wheat Ale" on the front of the label, then completely crap on the style by overhopping and overcarbonating. Sorry Victory, a rare miss from you here.

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Photo of BurghBrewPSU
3.26/5  rDev -17%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a nice Dark Yellow with a perfect white head. Smell is a little faint of lingering bananas. Taste is of bananas and spices similar to a belgian. Overall not too bad, its a nice beer to try, Im not dissapointed, but I dont think i could drink more than one.

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Photo of marcpal
3.28/5  rDev -16.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 5

On tap, Stuff yer Face event in NJ. Admittedly not a fan of this style, but I do give it credit for representing what it should.

Served on tap at the restaurant.

A: Pale yellow with wheaty head and lacing. Offered and rejected the fruit accompaniment.

S: Wheat and strong spice.

T: Wheaty, a little too much of clove or spice for my personal taste but appreciate the quality there.

M: Good job here, good texture.

D: Honestly surprised to see this beer be as strong as it was - a credit to Victory on that one. Well disguised and drinkable.

Again, not a fan of the style, but I do give them credit from what I think is a good representation. Honestly surprised by the ABV.

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Photo of Thorpe429
3.3/5  rDev -16%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

On tap at Victory. Served in a sample glass. Pretty tame for a hefeweizen. Moderate yeast character with a background of bread and malt. I expected a bit more.

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Photo of oberon
3.35/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Weizen beers are not a style I go to very often but on hot days here in NC I do from time to time.Pours into a weizen glass a pale yellow color with not much haze,a thinner (for the style) white head atop,doesn't really have the look of a Bavarian wheat beer wich in Victory's defense it sorta isn't.Aromas of yeasty phenols and toasted cereal grain,there is some serious clove going on here.The flavors are dominated by the toasted grain with the phenols giving off some spice with hint of smoke,the feel is light and almost flat feeling wich doesn't fit the style.Kinda let down here I bought this thinking this was gonna be a hefe weizen with a bit of a punch but honestly.... not really.

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Photo of akorsak
3.38/5  rDev -14%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Served on tap at the restaurant.

A: The ale is a pale yellow color with no haze and a white head that laces nicely. It, unfortunately, was served with a lemon slice that was promptly discarded.

S: The ale has a soft wheaty aroma and a smattering of spices.

T: The ale has a very soft wheat flavor that is accentuated by some spices, notably a clove flavor that lingers long in the drink.

M: Soft and smooth on the palate, this is good for hot summer days.

D: This is misclassified, in my opinion. It is closer to an American Pale Wheat than a hefe. Either way, it is a good refreshing beer that hides its strength well.

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Photo of LilBeerDoctor
3.41/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed on 7/10/08. On tap at Blind Tiger. Pours a cloudy light gold with a thick creamy head. Aroma dominated by spices (clove). Flavor also very spicy with some light bubblegum and banana. A decent hefe, perhaps a little TOO spicy for my liking, as the spices masked a lot of the flavor of the beer.
6/4/7/4/14 (3.5/5)

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Photo of Brutaltruth
3.43/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Enjoyed from a 22 oz bomber in a pint glass. This hefeweizen pours a light hazy straw color with a moderate white head of tight beaded bubbles and light lacing from the pooling dissipating foam. Nose of light lemon zest, sweet wheat malts, and a light Belgian yeast characteristic. Flavors are a crisp, lightly acidic wheat flavor with some light lemon flavors and a light spice in the background. Aftertaste is lightly sweet with a medium body and nice moderately carbonated mouth feel.

A solid weizen, although not a lot of the standard notes to a hefe in look, smell, or taste.

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Photo of chinchill
3.45/5  rDev -12.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

shared bomber bottle.
This is a fine version of the style that could easily pass for a very good Bavarian hefe. Banana and clove, as expected, but neither is overly prominent.

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Photo of OrestesMethuon
3.45/5  rDev -12.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A solid, sharp, unspectacular but nonetheless tasty weiss beer, the Mad King's has a damn fine name but to my tastes is really only just fine beer. Don't mistake me: it's very drinkable, without many especially glaring flaws; but it's also just not very interesting.

At the very least, however, I'd agree with Victory's claim label that this is a “European-Style White-Ale”, a designation that seems a bit more apt than “hefeweizen,” since it's not as creamy, orange-expressive, or quite as bold and bodied as I expect a good hefeweizen to be; to put it another way, it's more Hoegaarden than Julius Echter. Indeed, the body is a bit foamy and fairly light, the color is a pale yellow dusted with gold, and the flavor-profile, likely resulting from the deployment of Belgian yeast, is pretty damn Wit, to be honest—which, again, isn't deleterious but doesn't really distinguish Mad King's either.

It smells very nice (and Belgian), it looks very nice, it boasts a killer name (and some nice back-label patter), and the ratcheted-up hop-load does the job of keeping the ale crisp and clean-finishing—even a bit nicely bitter, to balance out the healthy dose of wheaty sweetness—but overall there's something lacking and something decidedly less than great about Mad King's … though maybe, with a name like that, balance and high aptitude shouldn't have been expected.

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Photo of tempest
3.5/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On-tap at the brewery.

This beer seems a little off to me. It's too big and sweet for it's own good. The yeast has come through some spice and banana, but the overall flavor is muddled up by the sweetness, ruining the complexity for me. Maybe it's there and I just can't get it.

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Photo of Fatehunter
3.5/5  rDev -10.9%

Pours a half finger of head on a hazy light straw body.
The aroma is dry grains and a little lemon. Nice.
The taste is "wheat", lemon and a little spicy at the end. Good profile.
The texture is crisp.
Quite enjoyable.

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Photo of nmann08
3.5/5  rDev -10.9%

On draft, pours a bright, almost clear with a little haze, yellow.

The smell is earthy, wheat, hay, belgian yeast and dough. Faint citrus, a little fruit and grass. The flavor is banana, yeast, a little clove, herbal and hoppy balance. Not getting much bubblegum flavor as I get usually with Hefeweizens. The mouthfeel is fine and balanced.

Overall, this is good, fine, but not great. Tough to stand out in this style.

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Photo of Carolvs
3.5/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

The hops balance out the malt and wheat to make for a very nice brew and interesting twist on a weiss. Not a tip-top fav for me, but a definite repeat.

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Photo of baldmasterflex
3.5/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from growler into tall hefe glass.

Yellow with hints of browny orange. Wouldnt say it is hazy, but not perfectly clear. Perfectly white bubbly head.

Muted sweet aroma with a definite spicyness and smell of bananas.

Taste is pretty good. Not as sweet as i expected. Would describe it as a bigger Sunrise but lacking on sweetness. Was honestly hoping it would be more like a Leffe giving the ABV.

Drinks smoothly and quickly. Which doesnt need a warning since this beer comes in at 6.2%. Carbonation is very present but not aggressive. Ends with a bitter dryness in the back of the throat.

Hefes are not my thing, but i wanted to give this a try as it is a brewpub exclusive.

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Photo of ryan1788a5
3.54/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle poured into a chalice.

A: Sunny golden color with a good amount of haze. Fine-bubbled white head retains at a half inch. Small clumps of lacing.

S: Strong bready and wheaty base. Plenty of doughy yeast. Slightly chalky. Mild incense sort of smell. The yeast I character is more neutral than I thought it would be. Grassy hops. Vague hints of light stone fruits.

T: Wheaty and a bit tangy and lemony up front. Chalky yeast. Vague fruitiness. Soft peppery touch. Spicy and herbal hop flavors build toward the back but never get too bold. Trailing herbal hop flavors.

M: Light bodied. Crispness of the carbonation bites right through the frothy texture.

O: A safe and perhaps underachieving beer. It's perfectly inoffensive and crushable, but for all it was billed to be it lacks character

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Photo of PorterLambic
3.54/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This is a kristallweiss, NOT a hefeweizen.

Arrives a clear, dark yellow with just a faint ring of white on a very full glass. Obviously not a hefe as there is no little yeasties floating here.
Smell is malt, banana, clove and citrus. A good balance achieved here. Complexity is a bit low though.
Taste is malt, tart, banana, clove, pepper and light hops. Well balanced as well.
Fairly full body with a tangy effervescence up front and a slightly cleansing finish. Alcohol makes an appearance after the swallow. Warming. All told, a good beer but nothing great. Hops crept into the aftertaste a bit excessively. And oddly, I got a huge case of hiccups drinking this, something that normally only happens when I drink soda (and then only at the beginning). Weird.

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Photo of BeerImmediately
3.56/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On draft at Victory into .5L

Pours with a healthy, fluffy white head over a surprisingly clear, golden body

Aromas are faint. Maybe just too cold? Cardboard, yeast, salty ocean, white pepper, and just a touch of lemon.

Flavors are more in line with a standard APWA, but not a true hefeweizen. Light lemony citrus, green banana peel, some whole grain bread, and peppery finish. Plenty of flavor.

Mouthfeel was a bit off. For a 6% hefeweizen I'd expect creamy smooth, but I'm getting highly carbonated with a dry finish.

This is an enjoyable, easy drinking beer. Unfortunately just doesn't quite fit the style.

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Photo of Phyl21ca
3.58/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: Poured a lightly hazy blonde color ale with a nice pure white foamy head. Aroma of light wheat malt with dry hoppy finish. Taste is a mix of wheat malt notes with light sweet notes offset by some dry non-descript hops notes. Body is about average with good carbonation. Not bad but seems like this one is stuck between the classic weizen and the hoppyweizen and is not sure where to go at.

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Photo of nomad
3.6/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured a soft wheat orange tilting toward gold, with little head and lace. It smelled of some banana and little clove, and they had a sour and lactic turn to them. The quaff of this beer was very shy to come forward. Tasted of a decent wheat and clove, a bit punchy but not endearing. Noticed a very creamy flavor – thick, lactically sour, and subtly sweet like a plain yogurt flavor. Interesting, but not terribly tasty. Had a decent mouthfeel, though missing the firmness of other weizens, i.e. this one was more watery. Good but not memorable beyond the heavy lactic tastes.

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Photo of barnzy78
3.63/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle, but my 3yo son knocked over my glass spilling 12-14oz. Oh well.
L - persistent bubbly white head, highly carbonated hazed golden ale
S - fresh aroma with fruit, lemon zest, spicy yeast, biscuit, grass, wheat
T - lemongrass, biscuit, clovey yeast, faint bubble gum, pear, apple, wheat; very different but intriguing with every sip. Definitely a cross between a traditional German Hefeweizen and a Belgian ale
F - lighter body, but higher carbonation makes it feel fuller, finishes semi-dry and fairly clean
O - good, unique, and refreshing, but I don't think I'd buy it again. It was fun to try, but I wish I hadn't left my glass in an inopportune spot to get spilled.

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Mad King's Weiss from Victory Brewing Company
88 out of 100 based on 132 ratings.