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V-Saison - Victory Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
86
very good

180 Ratings
THE BROS
91
outstanding

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Ratings: 180
Reviews: 161
rAvg: 3.92
pDev: 8.42%
Wants: 5
Gots: 1 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Victory Brewing Company visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: rotsaruch on 07-14-2005)
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Photo of silenius
2.83/5  rDev -27.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

I was pretty damn disappointed with this beer. It looks and smells nice enough. It has a nice golden hazy color and a nice frothy head, it smells sweet and spicy, but once I took a sip I was really turned off.

It tastes bitter and vegetal with some odd spiciness thrown in to mess things up even further. There is some initial sweetness, but it is overcome by the odd bitter and vegetal flavors and that weird sweetness.

Mouthfeel is too carbonated and it is really difficult to finish the whole bottle. Disappointing.

silenius, Aug 19, 2005
Photo of veggiemafia
2.95/5  rDev -24.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

750ml corked and caged into a balloon wine glass.

Appearance is really light lemon colored and pretty clear except the very bottom of the bottle that's chock full of yeast. HUGE fluffy head.

Smell is a lot of lemons and clovey spice with maybe a little bit of earthiness or sourness or graininess, but very little. The smell is dominated by lemon and clove esthers from the yeast.

Taste is more of the same and until the beer gets very warm I had a hard time picking up on any background sourness or earthiness that I've come to expect in saison. Mostly lemons and a little bit of a spicy hop thing happening.

This beer is way carbonated, and has a very obvious carbonation sting. My friend compared this to a champagne or brut in terms of carbonation and mouthfeel.

One glass of this was more than plenty.

If I were given this totally blind, I would have absolutely 100% said that it was a hefeweizen, and so would the two folks I was with at the time. Not my favorite offering from Victory.

veggiemafia, Jan 28, 2006
Photo of Goldorak
2.98/5  rDev -24%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: Almost opaque peachy yellow, the head was quick to make it's exit, leaving in it's wake a shy lace.

Smell: Lemon meringue, sprinkled with black earth, and just a bit of spicy, saison yeast towards the end.

Taste: The first thing that hits you is the carbonation which I found way over the top and aggressive, it almost felt like it burnt my tongue. It felt like pop rocks and coke in my mouth. Maybe I'm just not used to this level of carbonation since I gave up soda pop a few years ago, but I'm aware that a few lively bubbles in a Beer can bring out some aspects in the palate. In this case, it took all the flavors hostage. As far as I could tell, it tasted a bit yeasty, with lemon rinds and coriander. I didn't hate this Beer, I've got a bottle in the Beer closet that I won't touch for at least a year, and even then, I'll pop open the bottle and leave it to rest for a good half hour before drinking it.

Goldorak, Dec 01, 2005
Photo of jophish17
3/5  rDev -23.5%

jophish17, Dec 24, 2011
Photo of JasonA
3.03/5  rDev -22.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Pours a slightly cloudy lemon copper. Thin but stayed head. Some sediment at the bottom.

Smells a citrus yeast, maybe biscuit.

Non sugary sweet. Lemon grass, citrus yet dry. ABV hidden well.

Sits a bit carbonated. Dry, completely non-alcoholic finish. Nothing special.

Im not overly impressed with this Saison. The start is nice, but I dont get much of a middle and finish. Pretty boring beer.

JasonA, Apr 28, 2007
Photo of Ego
3.08/5  rDev -21.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

perfect day for a saison, the brutal heat wave has ceased and today was lovely, granted I was on call for work but did not have to go anywhere.. hung outside with the dog lounging doing nothing but enjoying the weather.. if this is not a saison day, I do not know what is.

eyes...
pale straw and hazy, one finger of head is persistent and fed amply by carbonation rising up from the bottom, lacing is decent, the carbonation bubbles are micro in nature and tightly packed ontop of the brew. a nice looking saison, somewhat standard (oddly the bottle tells you to give it a vigourous pour to encourage the head, but most saisons do not need this...)

nose...
doughy and yeasty with musty element, I detect some sort of wierd sugar component in there, the yeast really makes this lean into the "bannana" aroma territory, the smell is ok if not standard for a saison, it certainly is done well.

taste etc...
grainy with a lemon element, it drinks rather light and the carbonation is sensed as tiny bubbles in the mouth, so it doesn't feel over carbonated whatsoever, the flavors are well balanced, the yeast flavor is not as aggressive as I prefer (loses points for complexity here), it is a pretty basic saison, perhaps a saison for beginners... or those who do not like overly aggressive saisons.

verdict?
a standard take on the saison, not bad by any means, a good effort but when you can pick up Saison Dupont or Fantome Ete easily.. why would you buy this? I'll cellar one just to see where it goes but I don't have high hopes.

Ego, Aug 07, 2006
Photo of mrasskicktastic
3.08/5  rDev -21.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance - A cloudy, deep yellow. Brown through the thickest part of the tulip glass. Very prominent head with durable lacing.

Smell - The smell was an enchanting citrus odor between grapefruit and lemon meshed with faint aromatic pine hops and a hint of grain underneath.

Taste - The most important aspect of a beer, and the only place this one comes up short. A mild citrus sour, not potent enough to be unpleasant. A very weak tone of tin shines through. Little bitterness with no hoppy or malty flavor, not very sweet either. Nothing particularly awful, but nothing particularly good either. I expected more character from a victory beer. The flavor was not affected too strongly as it warmed.

Mouthfeel - Smooth, medium viscosity. Good, but not great.

Drinkabilty - Would compliment a seafood or chicken dish beautifully. At a mild abv with not a single repulsive character, one could drink this saison all night long. Unfortunately, it lacks enough interesting points that I wouldn't care to drink it all night long.

mrasskicktastic, Aug 03, 2005
Photo of blakesell
3.1/5  rDev -20.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Bottled in May 08, poured from the 750ml caged and corked bottle into a German style stein.

Appearance- Yellow and hazy with hints of orange, head sticks around for about five minutes and collapses giving very little lacing. Foam at the top of the beer looks like that alien creature in Dune that lived in the smoky aquarium. A twisted looking Admiral Ackbar.

Smell- This is one fine smelling Saison, with good sweet sugary malts, white pepper, sunflower seeds, and a bit of funk. The nose on this is more than a bit impressive. Light noble hopping, a bit of sherry nutty oxidation as well.

Taste- Sweet upfront with a lot of warming alcohol esters, light malts, balanced hops. A strong astringency on the finish that is really hurting this beer in every way. Perhaps I cracked this one too soon and it needs much more time.

Mouthfeel- That astringency just doesn't go away and it seems to get stronger as the beverage sits. Cloying, medicinal (band aid), effervescent, warming, medium bodied, and medium in carbonation.

Drinkability- I'll try to get another one and age it back to see what happens. The appearance and smell was too good not to give it a second chance.

blakesell, Mar 03, 2009
Photo of merlin48
3.15/5  rDev -19.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

750 ml bottle, corked and caged, bottling date of Apr 01, 2005, stamped on label.
Appearance: Pours a hazed, yellowish peach body with a one centimeter white head that bubbles away in less than ten seconds. No lacing.
Aroma: Subdued bouquet has some floral hops, musty yeast, and hints of pepper and lemonzest.
Mouthfeel: Spritzy high carbonation with a light medium body.
Taste: Bready wheat, dry bittering hops, musty yeast, a hint of fruit. Resembles a mild Belgian Pale Ale more than a Saison.Very disappointing.
Drinkability: The Vintage Cellar was out of Fantomes and Hennepin, so I picked this one up hoping to be rewarded with a nice Saison, even though I've not been impressed in the past with Victory's Belgian style ales. V-Saison is no Hennepin. Maybe, this one will improve with some sleeping time, but I doubt it. Another inferior North American effort at a Saison. Lacking flavor and complexity.

merlin48, Sep 16, 2005
Photo of tweeder263
3.25/5  rDev -17.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Bottled on JUl 2 2007 Pours out a hazy gold brew with big head,,i poured it pretty hard.Fairly carbonated. Smells of the typical belgian esters,,to me they mostly all smell the same,i know others feel differently. Tastes like a tripel to me. Just ok but im not the best judge of the style. Mouthfeel is pretty good. I couldnt drink alot of these,,a little too belgiany.

tweeder263, Aug 25, 2008
Photo of Beejay
3.3/5  rDev -15.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Light orange, slightly cloudy with white head that dissipates to a ring.

S: Tart, like apple or cherry juice.

T:Tart and tangy.. Slight fruit taste, and something odd in the background. Finishes bitter, and a little funky.

M: Plenty of carbonation. Heeps of it..

D: Not the greatest I have ever had, but not bad. Especially since it was on sale for 4Buck. Of course, since it is retired, I don't think I will be getting a lot more.

Beejay, Sep 27, 2009
Photo of Naugled
3.4/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750ml corked bottle served in chalice

A: orangy yellow color almost flourescent with a touch of haze. creamy silky white head, very carbonated.

S: nice fresh but earthy nose, sort of like a spring dirt field. light herb spicy notes

T: rich full flavor for a saison, earthy notes and light citrus, mostly tangerine.

M: smooth rich full feel

D: very drinkable but only for the first few quaffs. not very refreshing or interesting after.

Naugled, Mar 25, 2009
Photo of mactrail
3.43/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Hazy amber in the Ommegang chalice. Decent head that subsides before long. Amazingly, label says it was bottled July 3, 2007, so we are drinking it just before the suggested five-year aging limit. Not that the age has done this much good, but it's a testament to Victory's clean brewing technology.

Fairly rich and winey body. Nose of roasted malt and caramel. Some tangy taste, but less acidic than many Saisons. Interesting flavors of golden raisins, dried pineapple, and mango. Fair amount of hops enliven the aftertaste. Rather nice blend of malt and fruit as it warms a little. A little butter and mustiness keeps it from winning the prize.

Purchased the 750 ml corked bottle at Mega Liquors in Hemet, Calif., so beware the "bottled on" date. Another point in Victory's favor. But I might not have bought the stuff had I noticed it's advanced age.

mactrail, Feb 28, 2012
Photo of Anthony1
3.43/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

a brass, amber colored-hue with a minimal frothy head that lay atop a hazy, and cloudy appearance. Great smell, bursting with fresh florals and fruit, noticeable pears, and apples. Taste strongly complemented the smell, very Belgian-like and authentic, with pleasing nuances of slight grapefruit, apples, pears, honey,lemons, citrus zest, fresh florals and fruits. Nice, crisp, refreshing mouthfeel - this beer would be perfect for a hot, lazy, Summer day.

Anthony1, Dec 31, 2009
Photo of palma
3.45/5  rDev -12%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Was expecting better from Victory here. This is an OK saison. Nice sparkling golden body with a continuing lace. Great floral and fruity bouquet. Only problem is the taste. It’s a little too tangy and sharp for my liking. Has a lambic-like character. Not my cup of tea.

palma, Oct 20, 2005
Photo of ClockworkOrange
3.45/5  rDev -12%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A 750ml corked bottle poured into my Selin's Grove wine glass. Bottled on April 01, 2005. The ale appears a hazed golden yellow color with barely a finger of quickly fading bone white foam. Nose and flavors are of apples, slightly tart, slightly sweet, spicy yeast, bready, a bit of caramel, mild sourness comes out as it warms. Light super dry, crisp body with very high carbonation levels, not foamy, but rather bubbly/fizzy. The moderate carbonation hurts drinkability, for me at least.

ClockworkOrange, May 26, 2009
Photo of Bugsey
3.48/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Out of the bottle this beer definitely had more bite and bitterness, the kind that make you furl your brow and say "Hmm, not sure I like this." But it does warm and mellow, then taste more creamy and fruity like a tipel.

Still there is something in the aftertaste that bothered me. Something metallic and tart, like lemon peel, and something harsh like overripe banana.

Enjoyable, yes. Glad it was a big bottle, so I could work on it a while.

Bugsey, Sep 15, 2008
Photo of Beertracker
3.5/5  rDev -10.7%

Beertracker, Jan 27, 2012
Photo of becktone
3.5/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

From notes 4-8-09

Eye: Body is cloudy and straw gold in color. Head is a frothy white with nice retention at an appropriate size. Nothing special here, just a good looking brew.

Nose: Spicy notes come out in this brew's strong aroma. Yeasty and bready aromas are real strong. Oakiness and woodiness come through. Not really too much more going on in here. Some farmhouse aromas make it through, straw and as aforementioned a woodiness. Some hops come through as well.

Tongue: Spicy tones are strong as well as yeasty notes. Alcohol comes through a bit. Overall this is a dry beer. Sweet malt supports all that is going on here, which unfortunately isn't all that much. I'm getting a slight fruity note once the beer hits the tongue, then it disappears. Woodiness and alcohol work well together. There's just not as much here as I would've liked. Bit of diacetyl towards the end.

Feel and Drinkability: Carbonation is high and the body of this one is light with a dry finish. All elements of feel work together to create a nice feel but again its nothing outstanding. This is a drinkable beer, and is pretty good, but it just doesn't do it for me. I'm glad I got to try it, but there's nothing that is really pulling me to purchasing this one again anytime soon. Perhaps a few years from now I'll give it another go round.

becktone, May 17, 2009
Photo of jfcaa193
3.5/5  rDev -10.7%

jfcaa193, Jan 30, 2012
Photo of awright
3.53/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Also purchased from Whole Foods. Wife says our 11-month-old daughter picked it out for me.

A - Nice appearance. A resounding pop with a clear, gold pour, strong effervescence and a sudsy, persistent, white head (about an inch).

S - Tart, earthy smell. Light smell of pineapple and hops.

T - Quite bitter and some off flavors. Drinkable and pleasant, but a bit aggressive for the style. Funky belgian yeast very forward on the palate.

M - Refreshing and clean, but with a salt-and-pickle sensation, and spiciness that lingers.

D - Complex and slow-drinking.Light and fairly dry, but with tartness, bitterness and complexity that makes it somewhat filling.

awright, Sep 01, 2010
Photo of ultralarry2006
3.53/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 750 ml corked bottle with "bottled on" date of April 01, 2005. Left a one finger bubbly pure white head that quickly receded to scant surface skim, and no lacing to speak of. Very cloudy and color is a yellow-gold.

Smell - Esters and malts and yeast. Overripe fruits, bananas, bready malt. Some earthiness ( like soil ) .

Taste - like the aroma. Bready malt competeing with the overripe fruit and bananas. Some earthy yeast spiciness, slight alcohol warmth ( alc. warmth may actually be yeast spiciness ) .

Mouthfeel - moderate to thin, fluid, and very carbonated, very bubbly - somewhat like champagne, but with more body ( and without the sweetness of champagne ) .

Drinkability - goes down easy. This is good, but not great, and that would limit this to one 750 ml. , sometimes two, per session.

ultralarry2006, May 18, 2006
Photo of JMforman
3.55/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 4

Got this on clearance at Beverage World in Ft. Oglethorpe, GA. Bottled marked July 2007.

A- A deep golden body. Very week head. Good off the pour and then not a lot else. Lacing throughout.

S- Alcohol, hay, must, honey, camomile

T- Toasted malt, honey, black pepper, and camomile with a slightly bitter backbone. Quite good.

M- Carbonation went away really quickly. Definitely lacking there. I felt like I didn't get the full flavor experience.

D- Yes.

JMforman, Feb 21, 2011
Photo of WesWes
3.58/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The beer pours a dark golden color with a thick frothy white head that slowly fades to lacing. There are plenty of yeast floaties present. The aroma is decent. It has a nice pale malt scent along with a fruity yeast aroma. It seems like a hefe yeast aroma. It's more fruity than earthy. There is no alcohol warmth in the nose. The taste is good. It has a very smooth pale malt flavor that goes down with ease and finishes with a mild earthiness. The hops are light, but noticable. It's not as earthy as some. The mouthfeel is fine. It is a full bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This is a good drinking saison. It's not the best around, but it's a lot easier to drink than most because it's not that earthy in the finish.

WesWes, Feb 19, 2008
Photo of kmpitz2
3.58/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

750 ml bottle. 8 oz sample. This one pours a brilliant straw color with a finger of white head that really sticks around well because of a monsterous cascade of carbonation. Clarity is very good. Taking a sniff of this, there is a big note of huskyness in there, with a moderate pilsner malt sweetness. There is also a light alcohol puff. Hops come through a bit grassy as well. Flavor is better than the nose would lead me to believe. The pilsner malt imparts a mild sweetness, and the grainyness is very subdued. There is not a lot of spicing in there, either spices or apparent flavors from the yeast. Its not bad, but just not inspiring me a lot. Feel is a light moderate with a very solid carbonation. It is slightly drying on the finish as well. Overall, this one is okay. I just find it a little flat overall. It is not bad, but nothing really brings this one to life.

kmpitz2, Aug 05, 2006
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V-Saison from Victory Brewing Company
86 out of 100 based on 180 ratings.