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Baltic Thunder - Victory Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
87
very good

907 Ratings
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Ratings: 907
Reviews: 534
rAvg: 3.87
pDev: 11.63%
Wants: 59
Gots: 46 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Victory Brewing Company visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  8.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: akorsak on 01-05-2008)
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Photo of chim52chim
2.5/5  rDev -35.4%

Photo of BrownAleMale
2.5/5  rDev -35.4%

Photo of jophish17
2.5/5  rDev -35.4%

Photo of CoalCellar
2.63/5  rDev -32%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Yuk...Definately not what I was expecting from Victory...A dirty...watery...unremarkable porter.
A: Dark/ some light escapes through. Standard porter clarity.

S: Didn't do anything for me....Average...a little bit of coffie and roasted grain...

T: Watery, roasted bitter grains, a little chocolate....and dirt!

M: Watery...

D: Poor, would not buy this one again. Save your hard earned cash for some of victory's better efforts.

Photo of JDV
2.68/5  rDev -30.7%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle courtesy of DrJay
Pours a clear dark brown to black color with a light tan head. Smell is cardboard like stale dark malts and not much else. Flavor is roasty with an ashy flavor component as well. Higher than average hopping as well, but the flavor of this didn't do anything for me unfortunately. Wouldn't recommend.

Photo of sraimondi
2.68/5  rDev -30.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I had not had this for quite some time, so I was very interested in revisiting it, especially during our first snow storm of the year.

A--Marginally on style, as it was just a bit too light in color when compared to the seminal Baltics from Northern Europe.

S--Malt is prevalent, with some very faint fruity esters. While the style doesn't call for much hops in the nose, the malt breadiness was a bit too much, IMHO, for the style. The benchmark BPs also have more alcohol in the smell.

T--As with the smell, malt is the prevalent feature. Unfortunately, it was right on the boundary of cloying, hence my low rating here, given the style. BPs need to have some hops characteristics, which may be masked in the end. This beer is just way too malty/sweet for the style.

MF--Nice and full with some carbonation, quite good.

D--The ABV is well masked, no hotness, although I think, given the style, in the end, this is a shortcoming.

This is an odd brew. On the one hand, it is a very well made beer, although a bit out of balance; too sweet. On the other hand, it is just not on style and doesn't closely resemble the benchmarks for this style.

http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style12.php

Personally, I think it is closer to a doppelbock. Anyway, an enjoyable drink, especially in a snow storm, just not on style.

Steve

Photo of hwwty4
2.7/5  rDev -30.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Thanks, received from Akorsak in a trade.

Poured this beer into my Val Dieu goblet (3 pours altogether). When I poured this beer, all I could think was that it looked just like Pepsi when it came out. Its cola brown with a lot of carbonation, and leaves no head or lacing. There are big bubbles that burst when they hit the surface but don't agitate a head. The aroma is very smoky off the bat. Meaty, like bacon comes through overwhelmingly. There are also notes of toffee and a bit of coffee. The taste again is really smoky. The coffee comes through much more in the taste then in the aroma. A salty, chocolate flavor is also in there. Mouthfeel is fuller then most porters but the carbonation kind of throws it off. I am glad that I was able to trade for this beer, but if it were released again I would pass.

Photo of DoubleJ
2.7/5  rDev -30.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

November is here! And so is Baltic Thunder. On to the beer:

At the bottom of my weizen glass, it has a dark cola color, while further up it creeps to...a darker cola color. The slightly beige colored head, which is an inch thick and holding up well. The aroma is low on intesnity and excitement. Random cereals hit the nose in an unpleasant way....it's like....badly mingled hops with dry husky dark malt.

The body is big and smooth. That's the highlight to this beer. And the alcohol is hidden well too. That being said, the flavors seem very shallow. It tastes like some of the malt was left out of the fermentation. Very dry tasting malt. Dry unsweetened chocolate and a touch of charcoal are as exciting as it gets on the palate. The alcohol shows itself as each sip draws to a close.

I love porters, I enjoy baltic porters, and I have enjoyed baltic porters poured into weizen glasses. Baltic Thunder must have gotten lost during the storm, because this beer is not working for me.

Photo of tayner
2.78/5  rDev -28.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

22 oz bottle

cola colored with mild head, not much lacing.

smell was very savory, meaty smelling.. almost like raw meat that has marinated in a sweet marinade.

Taste was a sweet grape koolaid i find prevalent in all baltic porters i try, a flavor i cant seem to get past. this one is very savory and would pair well with a grilled steak of you like baltic porters. i cannot get past the odd flavors of grape i tend to pick up from this style though.

Photo of BeTheBall
2.83/5  rDev -26.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

A: Dark brown and opague, nice head but quickly dissipated; little to no lacing.

S: Nice roasted malt aroma

T: Too sweet, not well balanced and out of style IMO.

M: sort of flat and not very satisfying

D: probaly won't go back for another due to my not liking the taste very much and lack of mouthfeel.

Photo of ncvbc
2.83/5  rDev -26.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours with a thin fizzy tan head that falls to a small ring quick. Opaque brown, not as dark as I'd expected. Smell is somewhat light and not too appealing. Light roast, sweet sugared fruit. Reminds me of a cherry/grape mixed popsicle with some dark malts. Taste isn't much better. Still sweet and fruity but toward the end a decent depth approaches. Good chocolate, caramel, and light touch of coffee. A nice roasty, almost smokey aftertaste. Mouthfeel isn't quite as close to the full side as I'd hoped, either. Actually pretty thin. Average at best overall. Not the greatest take on a Baltic Porter, sorry to say.

Photo of seaoflament
2.83/5  rDev -26.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Thanks to tangfoot for sending me this one in the Top 100 BIF.

Enjoy by Dec 31 08 stated on the label.

Pours the a few shades darker than brown sugar crystals and has a good ¾ of an inch of foam.

The aroma is different from other Baltic porters I have had. This one is really nutty with some caramel/toffee, toast, and some hops in the background but something just seems off. I don't get too much fruit. It smells "thin" and gaseous. The aroma is just ok.

The flavor is just all over the place and has a weird buttery aftertaste. Toast is there, toffee, but also what seems like diacetyl which just doesn't go well. The malt taste is also just odd. None of the flavors seem to balance well in this beer. There's a bit of bitterness that wants to come through as coffee or chocolate but neither really holds, they both get run over by the buttery flavor.

Mouth-feel is decent but seems a bit too carbonated because of the lack of balance in the flavor, the malt just doesn't have strength to hold on to the palate.

Color this one disappointing. Either way I'm glad I got to try this one.

Photo of grub
2.85/5  rDev -26.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Aprilluvsbeer hooked me up with this one as a bonus in a recent trade. thanks april!

22oz bottle. sampled may 28/08.

pours deep brown, not quite opaque, with a wisp of very fine tan head. the head disappears fast and leaves no lace.

aroma is nice. caramel, slightly sweet. fruity - cherry, date. whole wheat bread. alcohol. slightly toasty. bit of baltic character.

taste is ok. not what i expected, more bock than porter. just over medium bitterness level, which seems a bit high. no sign of roast. bit of toasted multi-grain bread. cracker. bittersweet chocolate. bit of smoke. big bock-like lager character. butterscotch. bit of fruit.

mouthfeel is ok. just over medium carbonation level, too much for a baltic in my eyes. medium body.

drinkability is nice. the alcohol is fairly well hidden, but the bitterness a bit high. malt profile is decent.

this one threw me a little. doesn't really smell or taste like any baltic i've ever had. carbonation is high. blindfolded i'd swear it was a decent doppelbock, but not even a great one. pretty disappointed in this one as i was really looking forward to it and it just didn't deliver.

Photo of cmmprez
2.9/5  rDev -25.1%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This beer describes itself as, "exhibiting the enticing, toffee roast of the British Porters...and the smoothing subtle fruit nuance of contemporary brews." I've never had a Baltic Porter, so I went into this beer with the expectation of tasting a porter.

Ap - Similar to Guinness, though not as silky in the head.

Sm - Malt sweetness mixed with a lesser amount of roasted malt. No hops.

Ta - Unbalanced. I started drinking this straight out of the fridge and the roasted malt character came through but it was tempered by residual malt sugars. It made it difficult to enjoy because I kept wanting the dry, bitter, roastiness of a porter and never quite got it. As it warmed, the roasted malt faded and the sweetness developed into a fruitiness. At about cellar temp, it was all fruit and very little roasted malt. I began to enjoy it more because I could focus more on this sweet aspect of the brew.

Overall - This beer stands somewhere in between a porter/stout and a scotch ale/wee heavy. This could be an excellent example of a Baltic Porter because I've never had any others. For me, it rates a little better than average, although it never quite satisfied my tastes.

Photo of yossarian14
2.93/5  rDev -24.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

22oz Bomber with a "Enjoy by Dec 31, 08"

Poured into a tumbler with poor results. I swear it looked just like a Coke. Same light-cream colored fizzy little bubbled head, which vanished almost immediately. Smells like caramel and coffee with sweetness dominating. Tastes malty with caramel and toffee flavors and an light background tang that proves to be the most interesting component. The mouthfeel full-bodies and smooth finishing prickly. It seems flat but still has a corbonated feel.

I was looking forward to this beer and feel disappointed. I took this from a 60 degree cellar and only refrigerated for a half-hour. I think it should have been served a little colder, but I don't think it would have changed everything. I'm not against trying this one again, as I am usually happy with the Victory line on beers.

Photo of taez555
2.93/5  rDev -24.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

This beer poured a dark coca cola colored body with a dark off-white head.

Nose is very nondescript and hard to pick up at first. Faint touches of dark malt with some earthy notes.

Taste is medium to full bodied with a strong roasted, over roasted, sitting around for a while, old coffee bean sort of flavor. A strong earthy hop bitterness and taste flows throughout and sort of sits off a bit with the malt. Dark chocolate, wet wood, damp cardboard, muted over toasted espresso, dark bread, black patent malts. A big alcohol gives it some warmth but never really fights with the other flavors. Ends with a lingering odd mix of flavors.

I'm not really crazy about this beer. It's decent and definitely drinkable, just feels very much out of balance.

Photo of brantadid
2.93/5  rDev -24.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Poured black with a huge three finger light tan head. Head diminished over a 5 minute period and left behind an average amount of lacing.

I got some off aromas in the nose. A little funky. It makes me wonder if I just got a bad bottle. Some chocolate and tar with a mild hop aroma.

Tasted somewhat malty with very little hop bitterness. The hop flavor seemed like an afterthought. I also got a lot of alcohol in the taste which was surprising because it didn't present in the nose.

Mouthfeel was light, almost watery. Lighter than normal for a porter. Finish was fairly long but not complex.

I love Victory. They make two of my favorite beers. This was a disappointment, I have to wonder if I just got a bad bottle.

Photo of scruffwhor
2.95/5  rDev -23.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours a pretty dark brown with garnet highlights. Just a quick film of head after the pour that goes down to nothing in a flash. Muted roast, maybe some black currant nuances. Just a touch of bandaides though. Maybe some marshmellows, roasted pumpenickle bread. But some medicinal flavors sour the atertaste. The palate is a little bitter and choppy. The alcohol breathes some warmth through the nose. A little hard to drink.

Photo of biglite351
2.98/5  rDev -23%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A year or so ago this was the FIRST porter that I ever had. It introduced me to the world of porters and stouts. This brew will be forever associated with that for me.

A - a bit more light showing through than I usually like, but it has a very tight lasting head.

S - not bad but very mild. Not strong enough to add or detract from the brew.

T - malty with a hit of chocolate. Bitter after taste.

M - coats the whole mouth. Mild tingle on the back sides of the tongue and top of the throat.

D - I am in for one every now and then for history, but that is about it.

Photo of Damian74Shensky
3/5  rDev -22.5%

Photo of Cresant
3/5  rDev -22.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured this 22 oz. brown bottle into a Sam Adams glass. The body was clear of sediment and dark brown/black. There was one finger of khaki head.

Smell was steel and brown sugar.

Taste was roasted grain bitterness. Clean and not too sweet. However, the underlying sweetness lingers a while.

Mouthfeel was adequately zippy. Light to medium in body.

Photo of bostonryan
3/5  rDev -22.5%

Photo of Sparger
3/5  rDev -22.5%

Photo of JKelleyLBI
3/5  rDev -22.5%

Photo of bigred89
3/5  rDev -22.5%

Baltic Thunder from Victory Brewing Company
87 out of 100 based on 907 ratings.