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Baltic Thunder - Victory Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
87
very good

912 Ratings
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Ratings: 912
Reviews: 535
rAvg: 3.86
pDev: 11.66%
Wants: 60
Gots: 47 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Victory Brewing Company visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  8.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: akorsak on 01-05-2008

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Ratings: 912 | Reviews: 535
Photo of Globetrotter
3.92/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Hand-carried from Pennsylvania to Vienna (thanks Jeff and Chris!), the bomber looks just like the picture here. The brew pours a very dark but clear cola brown under a two finger deep tan head that fades a bit too quickly and fails to muster any lace. The nose is rich and strong, full of caramel and nuts, with just a touch of smoke. The mouth is thick, but not sticky, leaving the palate rather clean. The taste is as a porter should be, but not knock-your-socks-off good. There's roasted nuts and caramel, plus a touch of plum in the opening, chased by a respectable, certainly not overwhelming hops presence that leaves a coffee bitter feel in the aftertaste. The fruit and coffee linger in roughly equal proportion long after the liquid is gone. This is a solid, but not a spectacular product.

Photo of Cyberkedi
4.2/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Aroma is rich and smoky, and has hints of coffee and molasses. Color is a barely translucent dark brown with a thick, tan, fairly persistent head. Flavor has quite a strong nip to it, like hard liquor. Other than that, it is somewhat typical of a good porter, like roast coffee with hints of molasses and unsweetened chocolate. Texture is smooth and tingly, very pleasant to swallow.

Photo of ccrida
4.07/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Victory night it is, after a long weekend in PA, it seems appropriate! 22oz bottle (thx again gpcollen1!) that I've cellared for about 8 months (enjoy by Jan 2, 09 - about 1 year old?) poured into my large St. Feuillien goblet, Baltic Thunder is a dark, blackish brown with a small tan head that leaves no lace.

Smell is slightly sweet, roasted malts and raisins, loads of oats. Atypical but nice.

Taste really hits the spot, it could be that I've been drinking sugary Belgians all night, and had low expectations for whatever reason, but it's not bad. Not really a classic BP though, the grainy, oatiness from the nose follows though on the taste, lacking the rich depth I'm looking for...really tastes like an (granted rather nice) oatmeal stout to me, light on the roast, which suits me just fine.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied, average viscosity but with a creamy, supple carbonation.

Drinkability is pretty good, even if this isn't the greatest example of a BP, it's very smooth. Haven't had it fresh, but it certainly seems to have held up well after almost a year, though I'm not sure I'd let it run to much longer, but who knows? Not a great BP, but a tasty beer. I followed the hype on Heavyweight redoing this one at Victory, living in PA in the past, and then the discord on this rendition...while I wish I had the first version, and love a real deal BP, I enjoyed this, and if it was in a more reasonably priced 12 oz. package, I'd probably pick it up again. I grade everything else by style, but not here - it's a very good beer.

Photo of yesyouam
3.46/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Victory Baltic Thunder is a red-brown lager with a small off-white ring of a head. The aroma is of deep, sweet malt, dark wood, cherry and resin. It is medium-bodied, quite smooth and a little syrupy. It tastes much like the aroma. It's resiny, dark and oaken. Nice, unique beer.
(rated May 29, 2008)

Photo of Greenlabel
3.88/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

For some reason, I've been intimidated by the label on this product. I'm not a fan of Porters or of high alcohol products so this one seemed like it might be daunting.

I bought a 22 oz. bomber back in February and its been sitting in my refrigerator until now watching the parade of IPA's, Octoberfests, Bocks, etc. go in and out. Tonight I noted it had a "Best By" date of 12/08 so decided it was now or never. Surprise - I enjoyed it.

Doesn't have a long-lasting head and the smell is less than what I would have expected. However, the malty/coffee taste was appealing. The biggest surprise of all was the lack of a higher alcohol feel even though it was 8.5%. Obviously not a session beer but, despite my preference for IPA's, one I might purchase again particularly if it came out in 12 oz. bottles rather than bombers. If nothing else, I'm no longer intimidated by the label.

Photo of SaucyA
3.6/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours a rather transparent deep brown into the snifter. The head is basically non-existant, and what is there for a brief moment quickly vanishes into the brown mass below. Opaque as it gains volume, I can't help but be a little underwhelmed. No lacing. No legs.

S - Roasty malts are about as far as this one wants to go. Walnuts and flavored coffee waft about, but this is basically a giant malt bomb. No discernable alcohol. Not standout, but not bad. Molasses as it warms.

T - There's something in here that I'm not 100% on, and I like it. Lots of rich dessert flavors like mocha, toffee, chocolate, vanilla (?), no booze. Maybe a little bit of prune. Nothing very smokey, and no real "beat-you-in-the-face" malt profile. It's light, and a good drinker, but could stand to be a little bigger all around.

M - Good mouthfeel. Carbonation is smooth and limited, and the body is rather big without going overboard.

D - Drinkability is up there due to lack of alcohol, and lack of boldness. Almost sessionable... which is kinda retarded for a Baltic Porter.

Notes: Never had Perkuno's Hammer but I can only imagine how good it was.

Photo of Vendetta
3.68/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Original Rating Date:
December 7, 2008

Pours thickly, black, medium head, quickly dissipating. Aroma is malty. Flavor is roasted, coffee beans, some chocolate sweetness. Thick mouthfeel, creamy, good finish, a tad bit too much carbonation. Very good, worth the try.

Photo of froghop
3.53/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

pours a black with a red tint when held up to the light, thin tan head, good lacing.

smell is of cocoa, oats, hay, and some roasted nuts.

taste is of chocolate, coffee, some nuts, touch of licorice, and malt in the back, ends a little bitter and somewhat dry.

Photo of yossarian14
2.92/5  rDev -24.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

22oz Bomber with a "Enjoy by Dec 31, 08"

Poured into a tumbler with poor results. I swear it looked just like a Coke. Same light-cream colored fizzy little bubbled head, which vanished almost immediately. Smells like caramel and coffee with sweetness dominating. Tastes malty with caramel and toffee flavors and an light background tang that proves to be the most interesting component. The mouthfeel full-bodies and smooth finishing prickly. It seems flat but still has a corbonated feel.

I was looking forward to this beer and feel disappointed. I took this from a 60 degree cellar and only refrigerated for a half-hour. I think it should have been served a little colder, but I don't think it would have changed everything. I'm not against trying this one again, as I am usually happy with the Victory line on beers.

Photo of IgnatiusReilly
3.57/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22oz bomber poured into a pint glass.

Pours dark chocolate brown with a thin tan head - retention is minimal. Not too much lace on the glass at all, and the head reduces quickly to nothing. Hint of black cherry and toffee in the nose, a little bit of licorice. Full of flavor: chocolate, licorice, plum, roasty malt, finishing dry with the 8.5% ABV coming out. Full body as well, big and slightly viscous. Goes down smooth. Little to zero carbonation bite. Fairly drinkable, not fatiguing at all on the palate, the entire 22oz goes down very easily.

Admittedly I'm not very familiar with this style. It was a full beer, tasty and easy to drink. I enjoyed it, but one is good for now.

Photo of cvstrickland
3.97/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

With a label adorned with a fuzzy, optometrically-incorrect image of the "Baltic God of Thunder" blowing a gale at the drinker, the 22-ounce bomber bottle from Victory is decanted into an imperial pint willi glass. The resultant close-up glamour shot features a dark-brownish ruby body with a finger-deep cap of light tan foam atop. The sheet of bubbles gracing the surface of the drink retreats very quickly, resting at a ring that leaves no lacing to speak of.

The smell is perfumey and darkly fruity with bitter mocha and the grainy twang of sour molasses. A slightly-burnt note lingers underneath, toiling amiably with a mild floral sweetness.

The taste is darkly malty with bitter coffee, mild caramel and crispy toffee layered in. Flavors of undersweetened milk chocolate and alkaline, dusty cocoa complement an indistinct green fruitiness that sweetens the profile.

The drink is on the lighter side of medium-bodied with nice carbonation and feel. The alcohol is well-hidden and the beer quite drinkable.

Photo of NCBeernut
4.17/5  rDev +8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Very dark ruby body that looks dark brown at first. Resists head formation, but it retains enough of it to remind you that it isn't flat. Oaky vanilla and sugar right away, hints of coffee and plumb closer to the finish. Light anise flavors come and go. It all works together very nicely. Definitely some roasted qualities, but not as much as I was expecting. Just enough booziness to remind you that you are drinking a baltic porter. Not bad at all. Bubbly mouthfeel, with a little viscosity. Alcohol gets to your head before you even realize it.

Photo of Bung
3.87/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Clear black pour with nice dark brown around the edges. Minimal head. Roasty malt, chocolate aromas. A fair of carbonation in the mouth. Very nice standard porter flavors. Malt, peat, chocolate and a small amount of coffee. I wouldn't say this is outstanding as a baltic, but a really good flavored standard porter with some extra alcohol. Should be heavier bodied. A bit of a dangerous drinkability for the abv.

Photo of bluemoonswoon
2.47/5  rDev -36%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

22oz bomber poured into an imperial pint glass.

Deep dark brown with black highlights, topped with a two finger thick head that disappears into a thin ring. Aroma is not as creamy as I was expecting, I mean it smells creamy but in a chemical sort of way. Husky sweet malt, bits of chocolate chips. Slightly boozy, a bit grainy, just feels lacking all around, like a watered down version of a Baltic porter. there are a lot of just plain old porters with a bigger body and flavor profile than this beer. Frankly I am disappointed in this beer because this style is one of my recent favorites. Would not recommend, many better options available for the same price or less.

Photo of corby112
3.69/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Served on-tap at Zot in Philadelphia, PA.

Pours pitch black with a huge frothy beige head. Aroma of roasty malts, chocolate and coffee. A ton of oatmeal up front followed by roasted coffee and chcolate maltiness. Hints of caramel and toffee with a sweet yet bitter dry finish.

Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.92/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Translucent hazelnut with an infusion of cranberry and bright orange borders. Since Perkuno's Hammer was opaque ebony, this doesn't seem to be the same beer right off the bat. The ecru colored crown is a little too soft and unsticky to grace the pint glass with much lace. I'm a little disappointed so far.

The nose gets things back on track to some extent. Truth be told, this 'homage ale' smells as much like a stout as it does a Baltic porter. Roasted malt provides more java than chocolate, with a little dark caramel riding shotgun. Better carbonation might have led to a better head and a bolder aroma.

Victory Baltic Thunder is good beer. Heavyweight Perkuno's Hammer (R.I.P.) was legendary beer. There's really no comparison. I did read that the high cost of Roman beans led to the use of black eyed peas in this offering. I wonder if any other changes were made.

The biggest negative is a shortage of malt. Thunder tastes and feels like the ABV is 6.5%, not 8.5%. That's a good thing only in the sense that alcohol is barely noted on the taste buds. At least half again as much barley would have broadened and deepened what is a pretty damn good flavor profile...

... that consists of chocolate-covered toffee, coffee with cream, a dollop of molasses, fruity figs and a few ripe blackberries. Another valid description would be creme caramel with dark chocolate and berry sauce. Since almost 5 years have passed since I last had Heavyweight's masterpiece, any flavor comparisons are bound to be unreliable. That said, I still don't think that BT, as good as it is, can hold a candle to PH.

Warming helps the mouthfeel a little. It's still no larger than light-medium for the style and isn't anywhere near as creamy as it should be. Maybe those Roman beans were worth it after all. Incidently, Perkuno's Hammer had one of the most luxurious mouthfeels that I've ever the pleasure to... uh... feel. Top-5 at least.

Baltic Thunder has the misfortune of being compared to one of the best beers of all-time. Even so, I've given it a more than fair shake when it comes to scoring. It's a shame that this big ale couldn't have recaptured the magic of the original, but then life doesn't always work out the way it should.

Photo of biegaman
4.23/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Despite a wash of cola and glints of russet brown, the beer decidedly settles on wearing black. It's a wonderful looking inky tone with the gloss of new, finely polished marble. Even more colour is revealed to the light. Its walnut stained head is fully capable of covering the top in entirety but seems insistent on residing only around the perimeter.

Victory seems to have captured all the eccentric peculiarities of the Baltic Porter style. Its full bodied aroma is complex with a very rich malty sweetness and notes of bitter smoked chocolate. With further traces of dark caramel, roast toffee, black licorice, nuts, cold coffee and dark currants you can pick your favourite feature and sniff it out all you like.

All these wonderful scents arise from the flavours that lay beneath them. An identical cast of ingredients can be tasted even more vividly than they are smelt. A bunch of thick, syrupy blackstrap molasses, a dash of roast coffee, a touch of black licorice, hazelnut and brasil nut, hints of cocoa coated dark caramels and a trace of dark fruits and currants. Sound good?

Although a few pats on the back are well deserved already by this point, I commend Victory most for hitting that delicate - but necessary - level of roast just right. It's a deep, deep toast rather than a sweltering, full out fry and it adds just a perfect amount of caramelization and nutty character. Oh, and those hops didn't go undetected either - again, nice touch!

One last kudos to Victory for putting this into bombers, a decision which I could not be happier about. With plenty of flavour (but still no alcohol) coming with warming, this sized serving is perfect to cuddle up to on a cold, rainy night. I'm a big fan of Baltic Porters and this is not only true to style, but also one of the best examples I've come across.

Photo of jwinship83
4.31/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

A- black body with a finger of beige colored head..

S- lots of milk chocolate, some alcohol, and licorice.

T- very chocolaty. licorice can be tasted too. not a hint of booze. coffee or maybe hops on the finish

M- thick and almost chewy. very smooth and mouth coating.

D- this one almost drinks itself. very easy to finish and im kicking myself that i only got one bomber of this. another win for victory, check this one out of you get the chance. a great example of a decently rare style. too bad this one isnt year round.

Photo of MrHurmateeowish
4.52/5  rDev +17.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

22oz bomber from the Liquor Shop in Tyngsborro, Mass. My first Victory beer! Pours a nearly opaque black body with ruby-red highlights and a quarter inch of short-lived light tan head. Hints of chocolate, caramel, and coffee characterize the aroma. Chocolate, coffee, caramel, toffee, a tinge of grassy hops. Full-bodied with ample carbonation. Way too drinkable for the flavor and ABV. Wow. A phenomenal beer; flavorful, balanced, one sip definitely invites another. The best Baltic porter I have ever had.

Photo of Sycodrummer
4.12/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from the bomber into a snifter, the beer is a very dark brown, near black in color with hints a of ruby near the edges. Slightly more than one finger of white head was quick to form and soon to fade. Some sticky white lacing around the edges with few other signs of carbonation.

The nose is big on liquorice, malt, coffee, dark chocolate, some hints of mollasses, coffee grinds and pipe tobacco.

The taste hits with big rubust flavors of tobacco and liquorice upfront. Some anise with semi-sweet chocolate. A helft malt backbone with little to no hop presence. Taste of coffee syrup and an ever so slight dark roasted coffee bitterness.

Mouthfeel is medium in body with slight prickly carbonation. Semi-viscous mouthfeel at warmer temps and a real palate coater at room temperature.

A very nice midly warming porter. Tobacco flavors a bit strong for my taste, but not so as to detract from beer. A style to which there is not much to compare, but an overall enjoyable beer.

Photo of bonkers
4.22/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I poured a bomber into a 23 ounce glass. It is a pretty impressive pour, jet black with a thin white head. I enjoyed the smell, rather boozy. There are hints of chocolate, but alchohol wins the day. This is a true malt bomb. There are hints of chocolate, coffee and alcohol in this brew. The finish is crisp and smooth. This beer is a medium bodied sipper and a damn enjoyable one.

Photo of leif86
4.47/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Drink by Dec 31, 2008.

Admittedly I haven't had many Baltic Porters to compare this to, but here goes.

A: A cola like head, that is to say, frothy and light brown and short to live. No lacing. The brew is near black but when held up to light allows a tiny bit of dark, dark ruby glow to appear on the edges.

S: Molasses much? Also some general maltiness. Beyond that I can't truly identify because of all the molasses.

T: Molasses, as can be expected, but with a slight fruitiness I wasn't expecting. Also, deliciously balanced at the end with some an oh-so-nice hoppy bitterness. Alcohol level is barely decipherable. Again, balance is the name of the game here.

M: Smooth yet creamy and crisp all at the same time. All the benefits of lager done well. Carbonation is near perfect.

D: Holy crap, give me some more. I could drink this all night and that's something I can't say about nearly any other porter - usually all the sweetness gets to me after a bit. Finally, a delicious winter brew without all that spiciness.

Photo of Sammy
3.75/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Essentially an understated drinkable Baltic Porter. The normal sourness of the style is understated and balanced. Chocolate malt,Licorice/anise,a dash of coffee, its in the smell and the taste. Basically a decent porter with high abv (undetectable).Average plus mouthfeel.

Photo of nasty15108
3.76/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a bomber into a goblet.

A - Poured black with slight ruby hues along the edges. The pour produced a head of tan foam that subsided into a thin ring of foam.

S - Hints ripe fruit an old black coffee, but dominated by a strong alcohol aroma with hints of something metallic.

T - More of the same. A good amount of coffee, smoke, and hints of vanilla detected. Much better than the aroma. Lots of heat from the alcohol presence.

MF&D - Overall a pretty nice porter. The ABV is high preventing this one from being good for a session. Much better warmed that straight from the fridge.

Photo of CoolJosh
3.87/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A Finger of a foamy light brownish white head that quickly dissipates to a very thin ring.

S Really smooth sweet chocolate, caramel, coffee roasts, vanilla, plum and dark cherries. Some sweet malt come through, making this a beautiful smell.

T Fruits and chocolate come first, and are fairly bold. Caramel and sweet malts to follow. Finishes with the bitter roasted coffee tastes that are seen in the scent. There is a lot of flavors here, just not presented in the smoothest manor. A little pepper on the tail that sits in the after taste.

M a little too carbonated for the style, a little too bitter.

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Baltic Thunder from Victory Brewing Company
87 out of 100 based on 912 ratings.