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Helios (V Saison) - Victory Brewing Company

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Ratings: 981
Reviews: 430
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 12.27%
Wants: 19
Gots: 59 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Victory Brewing Company visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: ClockworkOrange on 02-06-2009

Repackaging of V Saison
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Ratings: 981 | Reviews: 430
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Photo of lordofthewiens
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A nice refreshing beer. In a tulip glass the beer was a gold color with a faint haze. There was a thick white head. It had a pleasant citrus aroma. A peppery lemon taste, with a little bit of late hops. Crisp, thirst-quenching. A good summer beer. Try it.

Photo of warnerry
3.48/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Best by Feb 25, 2012, so just past that

A - Pours a slightly hazy golden brown with two fingers of off-white head. Head has great retention and leaves quite a bit of lacing behind. Nice stream of rising carbonation.

S - Aromas of bubblegum, some lemon and a mild but persistent funk. Quite floral and a bit sweet.

T - A bit of lemon is quickly supplanted by sweet malt, some earthy funk and an herbal, bitter finish. Decent spiciness and white bread presence throughout.

M - Medium mouthfeel that starts out sweet and finishes quite bitter and slightly phenolic.

O - Pretty decent saison, and a great value at $4 a bomber, but too sweet initially and too bitter on the finish to be very good.

Photo of Beaver13
3.94/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

22 oz bottle. Pours clear straw gold with a medium meringue white head that retains well and laces the glass some.

The aroma is sweet bretty malts and musty yeast with a little fruit.

The flavor is wheaty malts and light fruit with some brett and some dry mustiness in the finish. The mouthfeel is kind of light bodied with smooth carbonation.

Overall, not sure if this is made with brett (no mention), but I get some nice brett notes out of it. Nice Belgian and a great bargain at $5 a bomber.

Photo of generallee
4.05/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Presentation: It was poured from a brown 12oz bottle into a tulip glass. The label has a born on date and an abv listed at 7.5%

Appearance: It has a pale golden look in the glass with fine yeast sediment floating inside the body. The body is covered by a two finger tall head that quickly settles down to a thin film cap which makes for some slick lacing on the glass.

Smell: In the nose I get a fruity and funky yeast character with some mild spicy, herbal and leafy hop notes.

Taste/Palate: On the tongue fruity yeast and bready sweetness moves across the palate and brings some mild sweet/tart apple, lemon and ginger like spice notes. This is balanced with some dry leafy hop bitterness and it finishes with a dry spicy and mild hop character. The palate is well balanced smooth and easy drinking.

Notes: Overall a nice beer with some decent layers of flavor within a nice drinkable package.

Photo of Billolick
4.1/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

$3.99 for a bomber, nice. "Bottled on Dec 10, 2009" stamped on the front label, well done. Pours clear yellow amber, long lasting off white head, ample frothy collar and sheeting, below bits of lace. Spiced up, citric nose, more lemon/lime, add a healthy dose of pepper, herbal and fresh tasting hops..all add up to a quite pleasant, zesty and fresh tasting saison...here its a freezing night in january and I've been transported back to a hot day on the back porch in July...bring on the salads and cheese/crusty bread lunches...nice saison, for a nice price, always a plus...

Photo of tigg924
3.57/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Appearance: clear, gold in color, 1/2 inch head, high carbonation

Smell: hops, hay, and lemon

Taste: hops, hay, some apple, and lemon

Mouthfeel: medium/high carbonation, light bodied, a bit bitter

Drinkability: An above average saison that has a nice combo of bitterness and fruit. Far from my favorite, one bottle is most I could have in a sitting, but it is an excellent value for what you get.

Photo of bsp77
4.35/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Serving glass: Poured from bottle into Chalice.

Appearance: Barely hazy golden straw color with billowing white head that only leaves slight lacing behind.

Smell: Banana, peach, clove, pepper and a strong horse blanket mustiness.

Taste: Strong sweet malt backbone of fleshy fruit and lemony citrus, with a drying counterbalance of clove and black pepper. There is also an underlying mustiness that carries throughout, and becomes more apparent as it warms.

Feel: High carbonation, medium body, very dry finish.

Drinkability: Seems to be some Brett in this Saison. Whether that is true or not, it certainly adds some Orval-like complexity and makes the beer exceedingly refreshing.

Also, while I do not allow price to impact my reviews, the $3.99 a bomber price tag on this makes it a steal.

Photo of kingcrowing
3.08/5  rDev -19.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

22oz bomber poured into an 8oz sampling glass.

Pours a light hazy yellow with a nice fluffy white head. Nose is very funky, bandaids, citrius and fruit.

Taste is funky. It's sweet and tart, hard to explain, it's right on for a saison but there'. A bit of that hop bitterness as well as wet horse blanket. I'd say skip this beer but I'm not a big fan of the style.

Photo of dogfishandi
4.2/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle at about cellar temp poured into bulb style glass. bottled on dec 10 2009.

pours a hazy yellow orange color. the orange really beams through the glass in certain spots. off the pour there is a big white soapy head. fades after a couple minutes to some patchy soapy foam. just a touch of lace. a little bit of yeast visible in the glass. the head looks great at first, but ceases to impress minutes after, but the color is very nice.

in the aroma, theres lots of citrus ,lemon and orange peel, as well as a sour apple aroma. flouride and bubblegum from the belgian yeast. a little bit of peppery spice. also has a little bit of a champagne like aroma. maybe even a little bit of that farmhouse aroma as it warms.

the lemon and orange peel come through big. has a little of that champagne/ farmhouse funk taste, and a hint of flouride from the yeast. has quite a bit of a hop character which isnt really expected but always welcomed. lots of citrus comes from the hops and mixes with the yeast in the finsih to create kind of a soft peppery hop flavor. a little lingering hop bittereness.

medium body. tingling carbonation which does this beer good. leaves a slightly resinous lemony hop flavor on the palate. you can not really feel the abv, does a pretty good job hiding it.

drinks very well, if you dont mind the abv. nice for the summer days or anyday of the week for that matter. 2 of these in one night would be a little much, unless your looking to get a good buzz on.

this is a very nice beer, a nice take on the style, something different. nice to have the funk as well as a defined hop character. definatly worth a shot, ill be revisiting it soon.

Photo of Soonami
3.95/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Got the last bomber from State Line ($4)

A- Poured a hazy strawish yellow, with a voluminous head

S- Distinctly farmy with a little bit of damp hay and old wood with a bit of citris

T- Tart and spicy with flavors of grain, acidic fruit and that generic funk

M- Surprising light and refreshing probably from the acidity, that hid its 7+% alcohol very well

D- A touch to funky for me to have more than a half a 22

Photo of williamjbauer
3.65/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap served in pint glass at brewery

A - Bright golden with 2 finger bubbly white head with good retention and excellent lacing.

S - Lemon, wheat, tart funk, yeasty bread.

T - Follows nose, too much lemon and etoh, wish it was a bit funkier and sour.

M - Medium-light body, moderate-high carbonation, chewy.

O - I wish this Saison had a bit more going for it than just lemon character. Make it more potent! Make it sour!

Photo of WVbeergeek
3.95/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appears a streaming bowel of golden sunshine much like the label entails with the Helios label, let's see how this compares to the ol' V Saison in the corked and caged format. Carbonation was more than effervescent, as I popped the cap this beer just about exploded. The first pour was soft yet formed a very large bubbly massive foam head. Bright white and textured rocky well above the rim of my tulip shaped chalice. Lacing seems to speckle nicely with chunky bits of lace but never leaves even bands to be adored at the end of your drinking session.

Aroma contains layers of spices with sharp alcoholic sweet malt layers and refreshing spicy noble hops in the finish. Tart citrus zest with funky phenolics are welcomed with each sniff, a definite barnyard farmhouse ale that we beergeeks know how to enjoy. An almost pillow like softness with chamomile marshmallow like layers with some coriander and clove attached to the party as well.

Flavor doesn't kill with sweetness more of lemon lime zest splice with spices added to roll you over. The yeast does it's share of work with the exotic spicy character and ferments a nice array of barnyard wild tones as well. Very complex well made American version of the style which can be hard to come by. There's a wide spectrum of Saison brewed in this country at one end lies Ommegang and the other is a toss up between Clipper City and Great Lakes I will let you judge the high and low ends of my example. Anyways this one knocks at the door of greatness and it is a welcome addition to the new family of 22 ounce bombers coming out of Downingtown these days, god knows they better keep the Prima ones a coming they're perfect sizes for that brew. The one feature that rubs me the wrong way is how the blending of the yeast used here and the spices added develop a strong sense of a floral perfume gag reflux in my mouth initially. It can be off putting but it rolls away after a few sips, and becomes much more tolerable after desensitizing the palate with a test drive.

Mouthfeel overall is spot on for the style pure effervescence brings out pillowy softness when the streaming layers of bubbles settle. Medium bodied farmhouse ale that is sure to impress the newbies in the beer scene. Again good call on the new bottles and name change, who's marketing these days for Bill and Ron?

Drinkability is great a beer you'll have no problems with, share with friends don't be stingy. In fact this style of beer when done right has potential to convert most friends especially women to the craft beer movement. I was at Victory's last tenth anniversary party and I hope I'm able to have a blast at the next one. Oh yeah, Victory is supposedly coming into West Virginia in the not so distant future.

Photo of chinchill
3.34/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bottle

Pours a hazy golden yellow with a towering off-white head. The head is thick and creamy looking, although of mixed texture. Plenty of lacing is left on the glass.

Smell is very yeasty with a wheat base. Not bad for style but not my cup of tea. For one thing, it makes me think of soap, On the other hand, it had a nice boldness and complexity.

T: much better than expected. Yeast and wheat are central, but with a nice citrusy tartness.

The mouthfeel is also very good, with none of the wateriness sometimes seen in comparable ales.

O: a pleasant surprise given the unappealing aroma.

Photo of WCBCFrank
3.93/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Victory Helios (formally known as V Saison) pours golden and nice white cloudy head in a pint glass or tulip glass. Helios is something of Saison switch-hitter. At first sip is has mellow malt qualities, but toggles to a carbonated, green apple, yeasty, and subtly spicy finish. I love saisons and this stands out, specifically because it is saison Victory style.

Photo of glid02
4.1/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle purchased from Green's on Ponce in Atlanta.

Pours a slightly hazy golden color with a two-finger white head. The head recedes into a thin layer on top leaving solid lacing.

Smells of crisp light malts with hints of grassiness and light fruits - bananas with hints of lemon peel.

Tastes similar to how it smells, although there's almost no fruit flavors that aren't citrus. Light malt flavors up front segue into light earthy hop flavors that are backed by hints of mild citrus. These flavors carry through to a crisp ending.

Mouthfeel is good. It's got a solid thickness with active carbonation.

Drinkability is very goood. I finished my glass quickly and could certainly have another.

Overall this isn't a terribly complex saison but what's done is done well. Well worth a shot, especially at such a reasonable price.

Photo of richkrull
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a transparent light golden copper color with an average amount of beige head on it.

Smell is malty with some spice to it. A bit of hops coming through as well.

Taste is citrusy and spicy. Can taste the Belgian yeast as well. Good flavored beer.

Mouthfeel is medium. It's a pretty refreshing beer. Good for the summer.

Overall this is a pretty good beer. I enjoyed. I haven't had many saisons at all but this one was a good one to start with.

Photo of Brenden
3.98/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Notes are a few night old.

Helios is a deep, rich gold in color with absolute clarity. A nearly white head forms almost 2 fingers tall that remains extremely thick and pillowy for quite some time. The lacing left behind very nearly forms a sheet with hardly any give after the head finally fades to somewhat stronger than a foam that then refrains from fading any further. Champagne-like bubbly activity never lets up as long as there's any beer remaining in the glass.
In the aroma, yeast is up front, blending with grains. strong hops and dry malts. There's also a white wine dryness with a touch of tart fruits before this goes a hint vinous with a grassy note rounding it out.
This one is a little stronger and perhaps more hoppy than your typical saison. Dry malts set a backbone with citrus and floral hops as well as perhaps some leafy touches pulling up front. Spiciness pulls through as well. Dry is the word for this one; there's a light hint of sweetness, but even that is tart. A strong yeast flavor gets stronger as it warms. A dry finish lingers.
This is a crisp beer, though not extraordinarily so, with moderate carbonation in a body on the lighter side of medium. Crispness does give into some smoothness on the tongue. I have to say, though, that (especially for a saison) this beer is a touch sharp.
Very nice. Not one of the masterpieces, but certainly one of the better saisons available and for less than $4 a bomber, why not?

Photo of CloudStrife
3.96/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle poured into a tulip.

A: Pours a clear light golden amber with a dense 3 finger white head. Lots of visible carbonation in the body. Decent amount of lacing sticks to the sides. Enough yeast on the bottom of the bottle to turn a full glass hazy.

S: Good aroma going on here. A bold yeast blends with some pale malts and a slight hop backing. Certainly get a decent an orange or lemony citrus from the yeast. Good Belgian qualities going on.

T: More mild of a flavor than I anticipated with that aroma. It is a well balanced blend though. You can get the farmhouse type yeast that blends with pale malts and decent amount of hop. Just a touch of booze at the end. Real fresh taste.

M: Light to medium body with average carbonation. Leaves a touch of stickiness in your mouth after you swallow. Very drinkable. Has a bit more full of a body once the yeast is poured in.

Overall a great American Saison, very refreshing and would be great in the summer. Great pickup to for $3.79, much less than the old corked V. Would buy this one again.

Photo of azorie
2.12/5  rDev -44.6%
look: 3 | smell: 1 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Well if this is in the style of a saison I sure am fooled, more of a lemon pepper pale ale if you ask me.

A: poured into a mug at about 45F, nice off white head forms up, did not last long, color is pale off yellow, some cloudiness. claimed to be bottle conditioned. poured it hard in the glass both times to finish never really saw any yeast and I love yeast I always pour it into the mix, and NOT leave in the bottle, seems only Americans do that.

s: mostly hops and soap, no yeast no brett, no lemon, no pepper,no spices just off. and hops it seems victory is as bad as most west coast brewers if hops are good more must be better not really. One thinks if your going to brew in the style of a Belgian beer go to Belgium learn how to make one.

T: ok I try to keep an open mind and I usually try not to rate beers that don't do it for me, but since Victory is here in Florida I am going to give it my honest review. it tastes like ivory soap with hops in it. Ok its not really soapy, trying to figure out actually what I do taste. First there is a mineral water taste, plaster, sulfates. As it warms it gets worse: its a cooper bitterness, with a cabbage like taste, yuck its really a drain pour for me I will drink the last drop. its not dry or sweet, but its unbalanced hop wise, all I can say is so far every non stout from victory I had tastes at first like a pale ale and not in a good way.

m: thick and not much carbonation. its flat

d: well it came in a bomber, sadly is all I can say, would I drink it again NO FRIGGING way.

glad it was only $3.99 a bomber to try it. Never again.

Photo of TheycallmeTim
3.3/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 750 ml. bottle into a Hennepin flute.

A--Bright burnished bronze head. Looks like a tripel. Head is half a finger of white fizz that dies quickly and does not lace. Nice carbonation, though, as a bubble line trailed upward throughout the tasting.

S--Bouncy apple notes, really juicy sweet and vinegar interplay here. The apple goes from sweet to tart to old cider quickly. That may be because of some must in the back end of the nose. But I didn't really catch much in the way of funk here. The yeast doesn't really sing like it should in this style.

M--Mouth exceeds the nose. Bright and rich at the same time, with a lasting juicy fruit sweetness in the middle that explains the smiling sunburst on the label. There's also considerably more funk in the taste for me--I'm picking up barnyard and wet hay. But the finish is a disaster--some sort of detergent flavor creeps in and lasts as an overlay to a more appropriate drying crispness. I don't get it, but it doesn't get away. Something powdery and ugly is going on here.

M--Mouthfeel's is exceptional: creamy and bubbly. Gives this thing a real champagne-like feel. Drinkability would be better is not for that finish.

Pretty versatile semi-dry saison, but that back end might be an acquired taste. A little like Ralphie in Christmas Story after he says what the fudge.

Photo of NJpadreFan
3.5/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Victory- Helios V Saison

A- Light orange golden yellow with a small filmy head. No lacing.
S- Slight touch of funky wet hay/ straw, cornhusk, and sour fruits.
T- Sour/ tart orange, green apple, cherry, and grape. Sweet corn husk, wheat, hay, straw, bitter lemon and grapefruit.
M- Light sourness with chewy thick malt. Light touch of buttery malt and a light sour funky fruity finish.

Overall- Light sourness with a good malt presence.

Photo of tastybeer
4.47/5  rDev +16.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Golden color, bright white densely foamy head that leaves spotty lace behind. Aroma is a delightful surprise. Sweet, funky, mellow, lemon fruity, spicy, black and red pepper, clean soap, phenolic, yeasty. Unexpected brisk light citrus pine around the edges. Just right. Taste is juicy, yeasty, fruity, floral, with numerous other interesting qualities. Flavors are cherry, wood, yeast flavors of fruit, bubble gum, soap, even a touch licorice, and lemon. Also tart, and crisply dry through the finish. Very nice surprise. Victory always seems to know exactly what they're doing.

Photo of GilGarp
4.3/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Best before Sept 29, 2012.

22 oz bottle served cold into a pint glass.

Helios opens with a loud hiss and pours with a massive amount of head. More than half the glass is foam and it settles very slowly with chunky lace left behind. The beer is a very clear staw yellow color.

Aroma is intense with spicy Belgian yeast. Lots of citrus too.

Flavor is also bold and big with lemon, pepper, funky yeast, and tart citrus candy. It's almost like an imperial pilsner with saison yeast. Really unusual but in a good way.

Mouthfeel is medium-light in body and nicely carbonated. Well balanced but full of flavor.

Overall a really pleasant surprise. This beer really impresses right now. Definately worth a try and probably more than once.

Photo of asabreed
4.25/5  rDev +11%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A repackaging of V Saison, eh? Well, that was one of my favorites, that I can recall, from Victory. I didn't read my former review on purpose. Let's see how this stacks up and if there are any changes.

Bomber into a Brooklyn tulip.

Appearance: A beautiful hazy golden lemon yellow color, with a huge slightly off-white head that billows like crazy and has trouble settling down, letting the aromas come off extremely nicely. Belgians seem to be the best as far as the bouquet being released like a bomb through the head and foam retention, and this is one of those brews.

Smell: Lovely insanity. A blooming bouquet of citrus, earthy funk, pepper and spice. Aromas of hay and grass and a bit of horse and barnyard. Clean and crisp all around. Effervescent, and smells not at all like a domestic, which can sometimes be soda water-esque. As it warms hints of cherries and other fruity esters come into the mix.

Taste: Initial funk and bitterness and mild sourness. Huge lingering citrus zest and spice. Yeast. Earthy and mild funk that really does something nice in the mix. Lingering fruit esters, mostly slightly sour cherries, along with bright orange and other citrus and hop flavors. Earthy, with enough bountiful flavors, and enough complexity to last a long while.

Mouthfeel: Spritzy, bubbly, and medium-bodied, with everything working together well. Not too creamy or carbonated, as the carbonation and, well, creaminess, balance each other harmoniously, thankfully.

Drinkability: Around $3-$4 a bottle for this? Are you kidding me? This will now be the best / most readily available / most affordable domestic Saison. I challenge you to let me know where I can find another with those attributes this good, especially one that tastes like an import. Bravo Victory for keeping the goodness if V Saison alive. I'll be buying a lot more of this.

Photo of ChopperSmith
3.88/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22 oz. bottle into a tulip beer glass.

Appearance: Hazy golden color. Nice foamy 2-3 finger white head that left a nice cloudy peak as the sides receded and left nice sticky lacing. A beautiful looking Saison in the glass.

Smell: That good yeasty funk of a Farmhouse Saison, scents of lemon, melon, bubblegum and wheat. A faint hops beneath it all.

Taste: Sweet, yeasty with flavors of lemon peel, spice, banana and bubblegum. The yeast profile is big on this one, but some nice sweet malts and a little hops balance it out well. A little alcohol flavor, but a smooth clean finish. Tasted very fresh (but no freshness date on the label that I could see).

Mouth feel: Medium bodied with a low carbonation, as a good Saison should be. A sweet but slightly dry finish.

Drinkability: It's spring/summer, and that means it's Saison time! This is definitely a worthy and affordable American interpretation of the Belgian Saison style. I benchmark everything against the best Saison in the world, Saison Dupont, and this one comes very close for an American beer. Will definitely buy more of this for the summer!

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Helios (V Saison) from Victory Brewing Company
86 out of 100 based on 981 ratings.