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Helios (V Saison) - Victory Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
86
very good

914 Ratings
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Ratings: 914
Reviews: 417
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 12.53%
Wants: 19
Gots: 37 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Victory Brewing Company visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Repackaging of V Saison

(Beer added by: ClockworkOrange on 02-06-2009)
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Photo of argock
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 22oz brown bomber, half poured into a tall no-name clear tulip and half poured into a Duvel tulip. No freshness date. Purchased at Wine Warehouse (Charlottesville, VA) for $3.95.

A: Sunny yellow with huge foamy 2-3 finger nearly white head with decent retention and several blobs of lace. Numerous particles of yeast circulate despite a careful pour.

S: Herbal hops and lemongrass are the most prominent aromas with accents of sweet malt, musty leather, tart apple, and perfumey floral esters.

T: This beer is complex on the palate and varies from sip to sip with lemony and grassy hops coupling with sweet pale malts and a light funk to produce a pleasantly tart brew. Pepper is nice integrated in the finish to add to the crispness. The alcohol makes an appearance in the finish as well with a bit of additional phenol.

M: Very easy to drink and would probably be great on a hot day. Sturdy malt backing gives a nice medium body with coating quality that plays off the dryness well. Carbonation is appropriately active which adds further to the crispness.

D: A great value with the usual Victory quality malting and hopping to finish a tart, dry, and enjoyable saison.

argock, Nov 10, 2009
Photo of morebeergood
4.35/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from the bottle into oversized wine glasses. Beautiful white fizzy head. Golden yellow color. Plenty of carbonation. Great looking presentation. Smell was very ripe and tangy. Taste reminded me very much of a lambic beer. Light and tart on the tip of the tongue. Big dose of Brett fills the mouth. Hoppy and peppery taste. Excellent. Gets even better as it warms up. Not as easy to drink as other saisons due to its high ABV and its Belgian wild ale-like tartness, but I loved it regardless. I have no idea why this is under $4 a bomber. Extremely under priced for a well built beer.

morebeergood, Oct 31, 2009
Photo of WCBCFrank
3.95/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Victory Helios (formally known as V Saison) pours golden and nice white cloudy head in a pint glass or tulip glass. Helios is something of Saison switch-hitter. At first sip is has mellow malt qualities, but toggles to a carbonated, green apple, yeasty, and subtly spicy finish. I love saisons and this stands out, specifically because it is saison Victory style.

WCBCFrank, Oct 30, 2009
Photo of HugoGrim
4.05/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from the bottle into a chalice.

Marvelous looking beer. Substantial foamy head tops a hazy gold body. Beautiful lace clings to the inside of the glass.

Loads of spice in the nose. Black pepper, some citrus, and hops.

Flavors are tart and spicy. Some citrus, black pepper, sharp hops. Also sour fruits mixed with a touch of something like clove.

HugoGrim, Oct 30, 2009
Photo of NJpadreFan
3.5/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Victory- Helios V Saison

A- Light orange golden yellow with a small filmy head. No lacing.
S- Slight touch of funky wet hay/ straw, cornhusk, and sour fruits.
T- Sour/ tart orange, green apple, cherry, and grape. Sweet corn husk, wheat, hay, straw, bitter lemon and grapefruit.
M- Light sourness with chewy thick malt. Light touch of buttery malt and a light sour funky fruity finish.

Overall- Light sourness with a good malt presence.

NJpadreFan, Oct 27, 2009
Photo of donniecuffs
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a hazy golden-tangerine with a finger of white head that laced fairly well. The smell was a bouquet of lemon, apple, yeast, malt, grass, clove, and other spices that I couldn't place. The taste confirmed all of the above, with the fruits upfront, dissolving to grass and spices, and then finishing with malt and spice. Very nice balance. The mouthfeel had subtle carbonation, and a nice light body, which made it decently sessionable.

donniecuffs, Oct 13, 2009
Photo of Cresant
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured this 22 oz. brown bottle into a Tripel Karmeliet glass. No date. The body was clear and golden,but cloudier on the second pour. The tall white head left multiple strings of lace down the glass.

Smell was fruity and a little funky. Dirt floor cellar. A tiny, tiny whiff of cat piss. Wet concrete, overall very interesting.

Taste was tart and drying. White pepper. Sweet lemons. Better than average!

Mouthfeel was prickly carbonation and medium to light in body. A very solid and tasty saison.

Cresant, Oct 12, 2009
Photo of ToddT
4.13/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Clear pale yellow topped with an enormous off white head. The head is fluffy, falls quickly to almost nothing, and leaves no lace on the glass.

S- Slightly funky sour sweet aroma of the Belgian yeast. Mild notes of apple, pear, lemon and pepper peak out from behind the funk as well.

T- The taste follows the aroma except that the funk is forward and aggressive. Sour notes of green apple and lemon at the finish which is crisp but with a lingering note of the sour funk.

M- Light in body and decent carbonation. A little fizzy in the mouth.

D- The 7.5% ABV is well hidden in this one. Be sure you are a fan of funk before you take on this one.

For fans of the style it's a nice solid beer. If you have always wondered what a good farmhouse tastes like give it a try and if you don't like it, take comfort in the fact that this one didn't kill your wallet.

ToddT, Oct 12, 2009
Photo of PerzentRizen
4.33/5  rDev +13.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This beer MUST be a Duvel clone. It has the look, aroma, taste, texture, drinkability and alcohol percentage (close anyways) of Duvel.

Poured into a Piraat tulip this beer has a huge head and just doesn't quit. The color is pale golden color and there's plenty of carbonation to spare.

The aroma is of cotton candy, fresh malt, grain, and floral hops. There's also a real earthiness to this beer. BA says saison, Victory says saison, my taste buds and nose both say belgian strong pale ale.

The first sip is deliteful. Fairly attenuated yet full and grainy with plenty of barley, hops, and alcohol to go around. This beer is beautiful. There's a spice in the finish that's hard to place; perhaps it is fennel or clove. This flavor must make it a saison.

Mouthfeel is light on the tongue yet not watery. There's a grainy texture that's really good with this type of beer.

Drinkability is great! I would love sip this all day. I will definately pick up a few of these if I see it out there. Thanks to whoever sent this as an extra in whatever trade we did!

PerzentRizen, Oct 10, 2009
Photo of batty
4.33/5  rDev +13.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Entered from notes taken early September of '09. bought/drank in Cambridge, MA

A: golden, clear, bright white head drops quick to a thin layer. could use longer-lasting head. little lacing

S: a little weak, pale malt, light apple, strong funk

T: touch sweet on tip of tongue, nice crisp aple taste middle, and STRONG 'farmhouse' taste. makes sense in the style and i like it, but quite aggressive. finished earthy hop, w/ just the touch of floral. slight grapefruit peel, citrusy lemon. good.

M: thick. beautiful.

D: a little strong on the 'farmhouse' and less crisp than most, but still great.

batty, Oct 05, 2009
Photo of Casey10
4.03/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This was a interseting bottle great price at 2.99 picked it up so I could review.

A - 2 Finger head from bomber into chalice very nice apperance.

S - not very stong but funk like smell .

T - Smooth yet funky lots of wild ale taste tart.

M - Leaves a sour feel that sticks with you.

D - Well given the price point this is a nice . Verson of the style. Highly recomended.

Casey10, Oct 03, 2009
Photo of tone77
2.93/5  rDev -23.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Poured from a brown 22 oz. bottle. Has a cloudy golden color with a 1 inch head. Smell is mild, some hints of citrus. Taste is mostly of alcohol, with some yeast flavor. Feels light in the mouth. Not really a beer I could drink to many of. Overall this is a mediocre brew.

tone77, Oct 02, 2009
Photo of ski271
4.43/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Medium-light gold with a medium-large, white, pillowy, slowly-diminishing head. The smell is wonderfully funky from the wild Belgian yeast. It's dusty with sweet malts and pungent dusty fruit aromas. Peach and lemon among others. The taste follows but with more of that barnyard funk that is an aquired taste. I've acuired it and think it's wonderful! It has a light, lingering medicinal band-aid-like funk mixed with a touch of bubblegum. Odd, yes. But it keeps me coming back for more. It has a medium-light body, soft texture and moderate-lively carbonation. This was a great find, and with its reasonable cost, this is one I definitely recommend trying.

ski271, Sep 30, 2009
Photo of lordofthewiens
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A nice refreshing beer. In a tulip glass the beer was a gold color with a faint haze. There was a thick white head. It had a pleasant citrus aroma. A peppery lemon taste, with a little bit of late hops. Crisp, thirst-quenching. A good summer beer. Try it.

lordofthewiens, Sep 29, 2009
Photo of IBUnit63
3.68/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I recall the V saison not being too bad, so let's see if there's much of a difference, if any. Into the Duvel tulip it goes...

Well, it looks decent enough. Full finger of head is sort of eggshell-ish in color - nice and creamy. Moderate retention and lacing atop the bright honey-lemon body. Looks nice and dry.

Good standard-issue Saison nose to it. Bright yeast electricity, a little hay and barnyard funk with an added touch of light grains.

The taste reminds me of a horse's ass, even though I've never tasted a horse's ass. For a funky Saison, this is actually a positive. The yeast strain is doing its job and works nicely in a slightly sour way with a lot of stewy grain. Very straight ahead; no surprises here.

The palate is where this breaks down from the funk. Too much sour and funkiness and not enough backbone gets this one a little too clammy for me. Finishes a little lightly.

Listen, for under $4 it's good to have around. Good, standard quality - nothing really groundbreaking here but it works for those Belgio-philes on a budget.

IBUnit63, Sep 28, 2009
Photo of BARFLYB
3.95/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Single bomber poured into some fancy glasses, split with Oglmcdgl. A repackaging of victory's V saison, lets hope they don't over do it like a certain Rogue company.

A- A loud hiss when the cap was pryed, i mean it was loud! A clear yellow color with just a hint of gold within. The liquid has just a bit of haze from the sediment but remains pretty clean looking. A very hearty head of white foam that is creamy looking once it fades to a cap. Good spots of lacing.

S- Smells like a well crafted saison that bursts with citrus flavor from the gate. At first im greeted with big scents of lemon zest, that's the big one. Of the saison's i've had recently the noses have been weak, not this one. Some spice such as pepper from the yeast, which also is a big smell. Alot of farmhouse in this one.

T- And it tastes like a well crafted saison as well. As in smell im hit with the lemon peel up front, that much is apparent. As this warms though, a big banana taste comes forth mellowing the drink some. This is backed by the spices(black pepper). The European malts shine when this comes to room temp. The hops used play a part but don't jump out at you or the palete. I think I prefer this slightly warmer rather than cold.

M- Helios is crisper when cold, but smooths out very well when the temperature rises. Either way, this is a bit below medium bodied with a good amount of carb as witnessed by the hiss when the cap was pryed. Just the slightest bit of roughness on the end with a small aftertaste of yeast which is not over bearing.

D- Split the bomber, but could of took it to the head. The 7.5% is a bit high for a saison, and the alcohol shows it's head only a bit during the experience. If I could cook, i would of made a dish to pair this with as that would have made this even tastier. On it's own, Helio's rock's, even if it's not a "new beer".

BARFLYB, Sep 25, 2009
Photo of mikesgroove
4.03/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Big thanks for sending me this gem as an extra recently. I had heard it was coming out, but of course it did not make it to SC. Served chilled and poured into a pint glass, this one was consumed on 09/23/2009.
 
Great pour and near perfect for the style. Cloudy and bright golden in color with a huge towering head of white foam that came up and over the top. Settled down gently with a good bit of side glass lacing along the way, really nicely done here I have to admit. Aroma was rich, light fruit, apples, bananas, and hints of lemon zest are all over this one. Really complex and a nice light aroma here. As it warms becomes a bit grainier though the hops still stay prominent with the rich lemon touches. Smooth flavor and a nice light to medium feel on it. Lively carbonation keeps it dancing across the tongue throughout. First notes to come across are a rich mix of lemon and light banana. Fresh grass and a nice touch of grain starting to pile on now, but it is still staying very bright overall. Long dry finish has remnants of lemon and citrus zest sprinkled throughout and a light fruity flavor that really hits the spot.
 
Overall this was a very, very solid offering here. I though the ABV was remarkably well hidden and it went down smooth and easy. I would have no issue at all with having this one again any day.

mikesgroove, Sep 25, 2009
Photo of asabreed
4.22/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A repackaging of V Saison, eh? Well, that was one of my favorites, that I can recall, from Victory. I didn't read my former review on purpose. Let's see how this stacks up and if there are any changes.

Bomber into a Brooklyn tulip.

Appearance: A beautiful hazy golden lemon yellow color, with a huge slightly off-white head that billows like crazy and has trouble settling down, letting the aromas come off extremely nicely. Belgians seem to be the best as far as the bouquet being released like a bomb through the head and foam retention, and this is one of those brews.

Smell: Lovely insanity. A blooming bouquet of citrus, earthy funk, pepper and spice. Aromas of hay and grass and a bit of horse and barnyard. Clean and crisp all around. Effervescent, and smells not at all like a domestic, which can sometimes be soda water-esque. As it warms hints of cherries and other fruity esters come into the mix.

Taste: Initial funk and bitterness and mild sourness. Huge lingering citrus zest and spice. Yeast. Earthy and mild funk that really does something nice in the mix. Lingering fruit esters, mostly slightly sour cherries, along with bright orange and other citrus and hop flavors. Earthy, with enough bountiful flavors, and enough complexity to last a long while.

Mouthfeel: Spritzy, bubbly, and medium-bodied, with everything working together well. Not too creamy or carbonated, as the carbonation and, well, creaminess, balance each other harmoniously, thankfully.

Drinkability: Around $3-$4 a bottle for this? Are you kidding me? This will now be the best / most readily available / most affordable domestic Saison. I challenge you to let me know where I can find another with those attributes this good, especially one that tastes like an import. Bravo Victory for keeping the goodness if V Saison alive. I'll be buying a lot more of this.

asabreed, Sep 24, 2009
Photo of blackie
4.2/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

a: westmalle chalice, pours a frothy, slow to recede head of bone-white foam that settles to a thin layer on the surface, the beer itself is a bright golden in color

s: great aroma off the bat - immediately surprised and impressed by the crisply funky brett, very clean pilsner malt body, underripe peach and sweet apple, big lemony tones underneath, candied and peppered citrus peels, vivid with bright, fresh aromas

m: carbonation explodes in a fit of nucleation on the tongue - this very lively experience in combination with the light body make for a refreshing sip, minor complaint is that the carbonation is more prickly than smooth

t: body of pale and pilnser malts lends only a light sweetness as big flavors of candied lemon peel and barnyard brett rush through, green apple and white grape, grassy/herbal and citrus hop flavors provide a mild bitterness that combines with the delicately sour bacteria for a crisp ending, pretty simple but superbly balanced

d: drinkability is what this beer's about, and a great value as it seems to be averaging around $3.50 a bomber, enjoyed with some PA cheese

bomber from State Line, Elkton, MD

blackie, Sep 23, 2009
Photo of Hojaminbag
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A very slightly cloudy, golden body that has a ont of active, fast moving carbonation bubbles. A big white head towers above the body and it has some pretty good retention.

The aroma is distinctly peppery, with a dash of lemon zest and a slight barnyard/wild character.

At first, black pepper, coriander and other similar spice flavors are pretty strong, but that blast fades away to reveal a good barnyard, hay like flavor from the yeast, which has a touch of lemon that comes along with it.

Mouthfeel is solid too, it just explodes when it hits the tongue, just like a good saison should.

Pretty drinkable beer. Overall, Helios is another winner from Victory.

Hojaminbag, Sep 20, 2009
Photo of Gavage
4.4/5  rDev +14.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: clear gold color with a 2" head that lasts a while. Nice lacing paints the glass through the session.

Smell: earthy and spice tones rise easily from the glass and are very pleasant.

Taste: mildly grainy malt profile with pepper, grass, slightly tart green grapes, lemon zest, and some moderate earthiness. Bitterness is quite noticeable.

Mouthfeel: medium bodied beer. Crisp throughout with some light dryness late.

Drinkability: this beer was so flavorful on tap I could have had several glasses in the session. Easy to drink and great saison IMHO.

Gavage, Sep 17, 2009
Photo of dsa7783
3.65/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bomber purchased from Total Wine and More in West Orange... Great pour and appearance... Golden and hazy, true-to-the-style with a fluffy, thick, white head and visible carbonation... Raw, dusty, earthy aroma with faint hints of lemon and slight lime which were also present in the flavor... The overall taste lacked the bite and spritz of European Saisons but this was nonetheless a good American rendition...

dsa7783, Sep 17, 2009
Photo of yourefragile
4.22/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 oz bottle ($3.49) poured into a tulip

Hazy light gold/straw color with a steady stream of carbonation that supports a fluffy white head and splotches of lacing. Aroma is very fresh and mildy funky. Noble hops, grassy, pepper, citrus and slight alcohol presence. Medium bodied, mildly syrup like, effervescent carbonation. Sweet and funky flavor, balance of citrus (lemon) and earthy grass, yeast with some spice (pepper and clove) and mild caramel malt. Very nice, easy drinking saison, at the price and availability this will become a goto beer.

yourefragile, Sep 14, 2009
Photo of corby112
3.35/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a slightly hay light golden orange color with light golden yellow hues when held to a light source and a 1.5 finger frothy white head. Visible carbonation bubbling up the chalice.

Earthy aroma with a nice peppery spice character. Light golden fruit notes coming from the Belgian yeast compliment the bread and citrus peel notes as well as some subtle earthy hops.

Very carbonated up front with a creamy, medium body. Lots of earthy notes, hop bitterness, light crisp fruit, citrus peel, lemon zest, spicy pepper and strong alcohol astringency. Slightly dry finish.

corby112, Sep 10, 2009
Photo of Soonami
3.95/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Got the last bomber from State Line ($4)

A- Poured a hazy strawish yellow, with a voluminous head

S- Distinctly farmy with a little bit of damp hay and old wood with a bit of citris

T- Tart and spicy with flavors of grain, acidic fruit and that generic funk

M- Surprising light and refreshing probably from the acidity, that hid its 7+% alcohol very well

D- A touch to funky for me to have more than a half a 22

Soonami, Sep 08, 2009
Helios (V Saison) from Victory Brewing Company
86 out of 100 based on 914 ratings.