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Saison Du BUFF - Victory Brewing Company

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Saison Du BUFFSaison Du BUFF

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BA SCORE
86
very good

550 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 550
Reviews: 246
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 13.05%
Wants: 12
Gots: 31 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Victory Brewing Company visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Brewed in collaboration w/ Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Stone Brewing Company, and Victory Brewing Company, who each brewed a version at their own breweries.

(Beer added by: garuda on 08-24-2010)
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4/5  rDev +4.4%

t0rin0, Mar 05, 2013
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4/5  rDev +4.4%

djrn2, Nov 26, 2011
Photo of zestar
3.5/5  rDev -8.6%

zestar, May 05, 2014
Photo of acurtis
3.25/5  rDev -15.1%

acurtis, Mar 10, 2013
Photo of nmann08
4/5  rDev +4.4%

nmann08, Nov 24, 2011
Photo of metter98
4.1/5  rDev +7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer is clear golden yellow in color. It has a finger high white head and no visible carbonation in the form of rising bubbles.
S: There are moderate aromas of herbs in the nose. Smells of heather, lavender, rosemary and sage seem perceptible.
T: The taste is similar to the smell and somewhat more potent; however the herbal flavors are well balanced with the underlying malts.
M: It feels medium-bodied on the palate; there is some dryness in the finish.
D: The beer is somewhat easier to drink compared to the Stone and Dogfish Head versions. Any traces of alcohol are well hidden.

metter98, Nov 04, 2010
Photo of brentk56
4.43/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Pours a clear golden color with a respectable head that leaves a fair bit of lacing

Smell: Very herbacious, with sage and rosemary with a bit of tart lemon

Taste: Opens with lemon, rosemary and sage flavors that accompany a bready malt backbone; grows increasingly lemony by mid-palate with all of the flavors melding nicely, into the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate carbonation

Overall: Very nicely done - would love to taste this and the Dogfish side by side

brentk56, May 21, 2012
Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.43/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Lovely lemony gold with a powder puff-like crown of foam that is ivory in hue. The head (which resembles a wind-sculpted mesa as it melts) stays at its maximum thickness for several minutes due to a wealth of carbonation jumping off the bottom of the glass. A more than respectable amount of sudsy lace appears in the end.

The nose is as wonderful as in the other two versions. It's incredibly lemon zesty and the added herbs result in a superpowered saison-like quality that is pure pleasure to sniff. Good things await on the palate, there's no doubt about that.

Saison Du BUFF Victory-style is easily the equal of Saison Du BUFF Stone-style and Saison Du BUFF Dogfish Head-style. This is a rock-solid recipe that is a certified humdinger in the hands of talented craft brewers. Huge kudos to whoever came up with the idea and participated in the specifics.

Beautiful balance is what sets this farmhouse ale apart from many others. Some may find the herbaceousness over-the-top, but it really does complement the base beer very well. There's plenty of pale malt to provide a white bready and slightly sweet foundation for all of the glorious top notes. The lemon zestiness must be due to whatever hops were used.

Every one of the scores are the exact same for all three ales... including mouthfeel. This one is medium in heft, with a sparkling bubbliness that fits the flavor profile well. Looking for a perfect picnic beer? Here you go.

There was no doubt in my mind that Victory would do as well with Saison Du BUFF as DFH and Stone. All three are craft beer giants that deserve whatever accolades are thrown their way. Now, one of them (at least) needs to make this a year-round offering.

BuckeyeNation, Mar 14, 2011
Photo of Phyl21ca
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle: Poured a cloudy dirty beige color ale with a large foamy head with good retention and some lacing. Aroma of rustic malt with lingering sweetness and some sage and light rosemary notes. Taste is a great balance mix between some sage and rosemary mix in with some rustic malt with bready notes with light floral undertones and some lingering sweetness. Body is quite full with good carbonation and no apparent alcohol. I really enjoyed this beer and must admit that all three version were quite good.

Phyl21ca, Oct 12, 2012
Photo of mikesgroove
4.25/5  rDev +11%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Very nice and extremely hazy golden yellow color came through immediately. Lots of sediment in here now as well. Huge carbonation profile could be seen with lots of chains of bubbles cascading up to the top of the glass to reinforce the huge champagne like head that came over the top of it. Lots of side glass lacing and a copious foam that would not quit. Very nice aroma here, lots of light grain, hints of grass, light lemon and a touch of grape. Nice airy smell gave way to a very nice flavor. Very light, and perfect for this summer day. First way was a slightly tart fresh grass like flavor. Some hints of peaches, pears, and a touch of tartness as well. Very nice light cereal grain flavor in the middle which became a touch bready as it warmed. Long finish of dried out bitter earthy notes and a touch of light fruit. Slightly sour on the tongue after a few moments. Fantastic carbonation kept it feeling very light and refreshing and this bottle was no issue at all to finish off as the profile was light, low abv and a wonderful bit of carbonation.

mikesgroove, Mar 24, 2011
Photo of kylehay2004
3.73/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: single finger white head on a mildly hazy golden body. Lots of circumferential lacing.

S: more of a musty fruity smell likely related to the yeast. peppery with orange peel.

T: clove, corriander, yeast with a bitter note all upfront which tapers to a fruitier but peppery finish.

M: light to medium body with moderate to high carbonation. Semi dry in the finish.

Overall: I like those things that make this one different including the mustiness to both the aroma and taste as well as the peppery notes.

kylehay2004, Mar 23, 2012
Photo of Knapp85
4.1/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer poured out as a nice perfectly clear looking gold color. The head was a little foamy looking and white. The lacing was a little on the sticky side leaving a touch of lacing on the glass. The smell is huge on this beer. Lots of herbal floral aromas in the brew. Very earthy and fresh smelling. The taste of the beer was crisp and floral too, loaded with a sharp bitter finish to it. The mouthfeel of the beer is very light and refreshing, sharp carbonation to it as well and finishes dry. Overall this beer is quite good, I would like to compare this with the other that were put out by Stone and DfH as well.

Knapp85, Jun 02, 2012
Photo of ChainGangGuy
2.35/5  rDev -38.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

12 ounce bottle - $2.99 at Hop City in Atlanta, Georgia.

Appearance: Pours a lightly hazed, dim-looking yellow body with a large, foaming, white head.

Smell: Curious mixture of various notes of herbs, weeds, leaves, etc. The aroma reminds me of a just-cut lawn when the yard is simply rife with wild onions and wild garlic. Instead of being inviting, it's a bit unappetizing, really. Let's press on!

Taste: Lightly toasty, lightly sweet maltiness for a fast second, then it becomes like angrily chewing through a meal of pungent, just-picked common garden weeds. Who ordered the poke salad topped with low-grade chimichurri? Upsettingly harsh, bitter herb flavor with a curious garlic taste, but not a good garlic taste, more like it was carelessly overcooked, leaving it bitter and nasty. I'm sitting here stunned, with the mood-setting Simon & Garfunkel song Scarborough Fair still playing on loop in the background. The idea for the beer is interesting, the final product is not. Sadly, a lesser work from three renowned breweries.

Mouthfeel: Medium-plus body. Medium-plus carbonation.

Drinkability: This conversation is over.

ChainGangGuy, Nov 04, 2010
Photo of JAHMUR
3.25/5  rDev -15.1%

JAHMUR, May 17, 2012
Photo of TMoney2591
3.05/5  rDev -20.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Served in a snifter at The Firkin.

Part II of the BUFF triple play. It pours a generally clear pale straw topped by a half-finger of white foam. The nose comprises light pasta sauce (a red one), garlic, Belgian yeast, and a more-than-healthy smattering of window-box herbs, mostly those four Simon and Garfunkel entries. The taste holds notes of wheat, horse blanket, the aforementioned herbs, Belgian yeast, greens, and a light kiss of citrus hops. The body is on the lighter side, with a light moderate carbonation and a dry finish. Overall, I find this thing to be a miss. The herbs just don't do it for me. Without them, I think this could have been a pretty solid saison, but that point's moot now.

TMoney2591, Sep 12, 2010
Photo of SocalKicks
4/5  rDev +4.4%

SocalKicks, Jul 18, 2012
Photo of NeroFiddled
4.43/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Tasted side by side with the other Saison du Buff beers, I found the Victory version to be the most flavorful and most balanced, but also the one with the least herbal character to it.

It poured a hazy, deep golden body beneath a short head of bright white foam that faded surprisingly quickly in comparison to the other two, and the lacing was limited as well (could have been a dirty glass). Noticeably, it also had the lowest carbonation level, which probably has something to do with it. On the upside, it was the clearest of the three, however, and I could at least see my fingers through the glass.

It offered the brightest and most welcoming aroma of all, delivering a splash of mineral and fruit (citrus, tangerine, apricot) over a sugary and vanilla drizzled Pilsener malt base. As it warmed the rosemary really began to pop, backed by thyme.

The taste really brought out the herbs, and they remained straight through the long lasting finish, but the fruit was there as well with with tangerine and apricot and the slightly tart note that goes along with it. The bitterness gently rose and then subsided, leaving the dryness of the herbs and the chalky yeast to balance it. Great finesse!

Of the three offerings, it had the most body, and the least carbonation, yet it still felt like it had a good mouthfeel. It was more Prima Pils than saison.

Regarding drinkability, I think it offers the most straightforward drinkability of the three, but perhaps not as much subtle complexity as the DFH and Stone versions (which is probably due to yeastiness). Personal choice, I'd choose the Victory version 3 out of 4 times over the others; and I could enjoy more than one of these in a sitting.

NeroFiddled, Oct 10, 2010
Photo of nickfl
4/5  rDev +4.4%

nickfl, May 16, 2012
Photo of WVbeergeek
3.3/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Appears pale golden slightly hazed hue with a bright white head and forms fine even lacing down the sides of my glass. Aroma full of fresh herbals alot of rosemary/citrus/grassiness. Malt base shines through with pale biscuit malt tones and spicy yeast characters. Flavors hit maybe too aggressive with with botanical/herb additions. Full on stem/leafy rosemary bitterness masks many aspects of a nice saison that could be here somewhere...I thought the Stone version was rough and the DFH a bit more palatable, but this one is unbalanced on it's own. Use as a marinade with some chicken breast or serve it with a nice meal, on it's own this is a bit much. I can't picture this flavor working in a regular offering, interesting experiment, but I've done enough sampling of these herb/spiced brews with these 3 interpretations. Mouthfeel dry in the finish with overkill herbaceous qualities, medium bodied decent carbonation. Drinkability overall I think I've said enough about my sentiments on the repeat drinkability, serve in small portions with herbally infused meats.

WVbeergeek, Sep 16, 2010
Photo of TheManiacalOne
3.98/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On-tap 7/8/2012 at Doherty’s East Ave Irish Pub, in Pawtucket, RI, served in a US pint glass.

A: The beer is a light yellowish gold color, with a short dense white head that fades slowly and leaves a thick lace on the glass.

S: The aroma contains spices, Belgian yeast, some wheat, light caramelized malts and some hops.

T: The taste starts out with a strong citrus sweetness that I did not pick up in the smell along with flavors of spices and bananas. Then some breadiness from wheat and Belgian yeast come in. The hops presence is strong for the style and the malt character is hearty but not too heavy creating a good balance.

M: Crisp and smooth, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is clean.

O: Tasty, goes down easily, not too filling, decent kick, good representation of style with an American flair to it, this is a very solid beer to drink for a long time if you’re in the mood for the style.

TheManiacalOne, Jul 10, 2012
Photo of Kegatron
3.5/5  rDev -8.6%

Kegatron, May 08, 2013
Photo of RblWthACoz
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

What a nose! Pungent soapy thing going on there. Flavor is bursting over my tongue. Very full and boisterous. Probably a bit too much for some, but I can dig it. Very grassy and has that barnyard musty funk on it. Definitely a good brew. Nice to see a saison done right.

RblWthACoz, Aug 31, 2012
Photo of jlindros
3.75/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I had the stone version of this on tap, just a sample so I didn't review, and it was OK, but nothing special. Hopefully this one is a little better.

A nice frothy head rises about a finger and fades slowly over brilliantly clear golden yellow wheat colored beer. A little too light perhaps.

The nose brings some interesting aromas, light wheat and malts, a slight saison and farmhouse dryness, light crisp aromas, light mild grassy hops, a little honey, and some spices. There is a very familiar spice in the nose that I can't pick out... rosemary! Tons of it. I think I get some coriander too. Plenty of rosemary, with other light spices, I think I even get a bit of heather.

The taste is spicy, lots of spices! Plenty of rosemary still, tons, with coriander, other spices, I still think heather, touch of cinnamon and pepper, and other spices. Some light wheat and malt flavors somewhere in there. A light bitterness, I think a touch of a mild grassy hops. Some light saison dry farmhouse characteristics, but not much. I think I get a touch of honey too. I light flower like taste too, perhaps the heather, or perhaps some chamomile. It finishes still pretty light, but lots of lingering spices and a little sticky honey feel, but still pretty dry on the finish.

THe mouth is lighter bodied with lower carbonation.

It has a mixed bag drinkability. It is a very light and crisp saison beer, mostly drinkable, but the spices run rampant and start to make it more of a mixed bag of drinkability.

jlindros, Sep 25, 2010
Photo of oline73
3.68/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a bottle into a goblet.

Appearance: Pours a mildly hazy straw golden color with a half finger of fluffy white head that leaves a thin layer throughout the pour.

Smell: Sweet and herbal with some hints of fruit and malt in there as well.

Taste: The sweetness level on this one is a bit high for the style. It is very herbal, I'm picking up the sage. There are some fruity notes and the taste is quite crisp. The finish is a bit bitter with some alcohol.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with an above average amount of tingly carbonation. The finish is a little bit dry.

Overall: Not a bad effort at all. It's a bit sweet for my taste, but everything else seems to work quite well together. I'd have another but probably won't search out any more.

oline73, May 18, 2011
Photo of Rifugium
1.35/5  rDev -64.8%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

First had: on tap at TJ's, Paoli, PA

I had the DFH version of this in a bottle last year, so I thought it would be interesting to try Victory's version. I like Victory a lot, and I liked the DFH version of this beer. That said, I'll now say this: whew...this has gotta be one of the worst beers I've had since I entered the craft beer scene. I don't know if it was a bad keg or what, but something was clearly off here.

Served in a tulip glass, crystal clear golden color with a thin white head that dissipated almost entirely. Nose loaded with spices and stale funk, minor fruity esters. I kind of recoiled instantly, but I decided to go back for a taste anyway. Taste of bland malts and sundried tomatoes, overripe fruit, raw mint leaves, way, way too much rosemary on top of the other spices (I don't mind spices in beer, but the amount used here was literally sickening), phenols, grassy funk. I gagged half of this down before pushing it aside. Mouthfeel is chewy, medium body, very off-balanced, with a really stale, vegetal feel all over.

Rarely do I find a beer that I seriously cannot choke down, but this is one of those. I will definitely stay far away from this one in the future.

Rifugium, May 15, 2012
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Saison Du BUFF from Victory Brewing Company
86 out of 100 based on 550 ratings.