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Saison Du BUFF - Victory Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
86
very good

553 Ratings
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Ratings: 553
Reviews: 246
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 13.32%
Wants: 16
Gots: 32 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Victory Brewing Company visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: garuda on 08-24-2010

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Brewed in collaboration w/ Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Stone Brewing Company, and Victory Brewing Company, who each brewed a version at their own breweries.
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Photo of sitarist
3.87/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Another blind review via the blind bif round 3...thanks ShogoKawada.

Pours a hazy yellow color. There are a few bubbles rising up to a small off white head. The head fades quickly leaving the smallest ring and a couple spots of lacing.

I smell lemon, herbs, sulfur, and spice. There is a candy-like sweetness underneath. The scents are delicate, and nothing stands out.

The flavors too are delicately balanced. A peppery spice comes first, followed by lemons, plastic, spice, and herbs. Reminds me of an everything bagel.

The mouthfeel is a bit thin and dry. Though not much carbonation is visible, I can feel it pricking at my tongue.

An easy drinking beer that would be great on a hot summer day. I could easily drink 4 or more in a sitting.

Photo of jsanford
4.29/5  rDev +12%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours a hazy, pale gold with a huge white head that recedes to a thin ring.
S - Getting lots of lemons and herbs from this, obviously parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme. Actually, it's hard to make out any individual herbs in the nose, so let's just call it "herbal". Still, very interesting and unique.
T - More lemons and herbs. The herbs do an amazing job of showing themselves at different times as the beer warms. At fist I get mostly rosemary, sticky and resinous. Then it's the thyme, followed with the sage and then the parsley. So amazing, this is a very interesting beer!
M - Very crisp and dry, with a medium-light body and high carbonation. Very refreshing, an it pairs so well with foods.
D - Very drinkable, this should be available in 6-packs all year long. One of the most unique and amazing beers I've ever had, major props to all three brewers!

Photo of nrbw23
2.54/5  rDev -33.7%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

A- Pours a slightly hazy straw yellow color with a huge, soapy white head. Head has descent retention and leaves some spotty lacing.

S- Smell is herbal, yeasty and a hint of bread dough.

T- Taste is yeasty funk, herbal and a bit of pepper. Quite a bit of herbs almost over kill. A bit of pepper in the finish.

M- Light in body and good amount of carbonation.

D- Pretty interesting ingredients listed on the bottle for sure. Just think they go better on food rather than beer. Found this one on the harder side to drink. Just didn't have the beer taste that I really enjoy.

Photo of Rayek
3.62/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Brilliant gold with a generous white cap. Head retention is just OK. A small amount of lace is left behind.

S: Parsley and sage are the most prevalent aromas, but the other herbs are at work too. The overall effect is very floral. A bit of lemon and sourdough rounds things out.

T: Herbs from the nose fade in the flavor. Instead, dry malts set the stage. Bitterness is mild and packs a lemon and pepper bite. The herbs come in late and linger while a light sourness kicks in.

M: The medium body is semi-dry and slightly leafy. A nice carbonation tingle bites at the tongue.

D: This is a very unique beer. A bit more herb in the flavor would be nice, but that's a small quibble. Overall, a solid offering.

Photo of FosterJM
3.77/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

97th review on BA
Bottle to pint

App- Golden yellow with a very thin head, didn't last very long either. No real lacing to speak of.

Smell- I get all the spice in this one. Smells like a fresh herb garden in a glass.

Taste- Its sweet with a light spice backbone.

Mouth- A light to med carb and has a nice feel.

Drink- 1 of 3 in the vertical tonight.

Photo of scottfrie
3.55/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

12oz bottle into AVBC snifter.

A: Pours a very light clear golden color with a finger of white head that quickly faded into a thin fuzzy film.
S: Big notes of parsley and sage with light hints of mint and bubblegum. Sweet smelling.
T: Very herbal tasting. I pick up the sage and parsley right away, and the rosemary is in there as well. Thyme is less apparent, and so are the hops. There is a touch of peppery spices in the mix. Finish is very sweet and the aftertaste has a slight bitterness.
M: Medium body with sharp tingly carbonation. Finish has a touch of dryness.
D: A bit more rough around the edges than I remember the Stone version being. I remember Stone's being hoppier as well. I liked the Stone one so much I wanted to try this one, but I think I like the west coast version better.

Photo of vtfan77
4.12/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Light straw with a decent head that quickly goes down, leaving a persistent ring of lace.

S- Nice mix of sweet bubblegum and tropical fruits. Fairly strong hop presence for a saison. A few spices are in there too, but I can't pick out anything specific.

T- Dry, yeasty flavor with a strong herbal backing. Again, my palate is not experienced enough to pick out the individual herbs, but they're definitely there and add a nice dimension to the taste. Finishes dry with a grassy bitterness and lingering herbal and yeast notes.

M- Fairly light with a good level of carbonation. Good for the style.

D- No hint of the nearly 7% ABV. Nice flavor and mouthfeel make this quite a drinkable beer. I'd have another.

I must say, good job on this one. I had been avoiding this beer for some time for no real reason besides its extreme availability. I'm glad I finally picked it up and will definitely grab its two other incarnations if I see them again. It's a good stab at the style and I will gladly recommend it, especially to saison fans.

Photo of MowryJC
3.25/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured from a bottle into a tulip glass at Greenhouse Tavern in Cleveland. Had in the same session as the DFH and Stone SdB to compare.

A - Fairly clear, ever-so-hazy bronze color with a weak head that starts at a finger or so and drops to almost a film. Spotty lacing is left behind as I drink.

S - Faint citrus and herbal notes that aren't very present at all with a slight medicinal tinge on the back end.

T - The herbal flavors are much more balanced than the DFH, with a nice herbal hop finish backing it just right. The highlight of this beer for sure.

M - Moderate carbonation, like the smell and appearance it's not very full. The finish is slick and lingering.

D - Like the DFH, I could only take one of these before I'd move on.

All in all, I'd enjoy Victory's taste and herbal balance with DFH's Appearance and Mouthfeel. A bit of a miss for me.

Photo of JayQue
4.12/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I am a bit more used to herbal beer now and less hung up on my view of what the Saison style is than I was when I reviewed the DFH version of du Buff. After seeing what Moon River Brewing did with Rosemary in their IPA, I was open to the Parsley, Sage, Rosemary, and Thyme here.

Not a classic Saison, but a very pleasant beer. Poured into my Budweiser Select flute. A bright gold, hazy color and a lot of carbonation greeted me. The head was white, medium sized and delicate with good retention and some lacing.

Powerful aroma with the spices. The rest is lemon zest, but the rosemary (that I am familiar with) and the other herbs made for a good, unusual and powerful aroma. The spices dominated the taste as well along with citrus (lemon). Mouthfeel is crisp and light. Drinkability is good. This beer appears to be much lighter and lower in abv than it actually is. 6.8 is a fairly potent beer!!!! Still it goes down well and on a hot day, I could enjoy a few!!!

Photo of nhindian
3.52/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle poured into a tulip.

Here's an interesting beer. It's a collaboration between Stone, Dogfish Head, and Victory involved brewing a beer with parsley, sage, rosemary, and thyme. Certainly interesting, and right now I'm going to try the Victory version first. Will be opening the Dogfish Head version midway through.

A - Pours an incredibly pale yellow, almost similar to an adjunct macro. Hazy and heavily carbonated appearance, many bubbles rise and coat the glass. Not much head at all, though, only squeezed about a finger's worth if that out and it disappeared quick.

S - The smell is where this really starts to get interesting... it definitely has a farm, barnyard aspect to it, which mixes great with the citrus and especially orange peel and lemon zest for sure. But it's also highly, highly spiced. The amount of sage and thyme in the nose is overwhelming, and kind of throws me for a loop. Incredibly different.

T - The taste, however, certainly turns this beer on its head. The spices and herbs are readily apparent throughout and the light, fruity notes are pushed to the back. The citrus comes through nicely in the mid-palate, but the front and back are all spice. It surprised me how much this spiciness lingered, too. For such a light beer, it coats the mouth and is all herb from there.

M - Mouthfeel is light and heavily carbonated despite the lack of head. Long finish and really coats the mouth. After swirling a few times, it helps even out the carbonation that substantially improves the smoothness.

D - Drinkability is moderate to low. The smell is a nice blend of all the different ingredients, but the spices just dominated too much in the mouth. I'd like for this beer to be a bit more balanced and not have the herbs play such a major role, but I feel that's kind of where they were going with this beer anyway to make a point.

Photo of gford217
3.7/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle side by side with the Stone version.

Pours a clear golden yellow with a very small soapy head that recedes immediately to a tiny collar. Not nearly as attractive as the Stone version.

Wow, the herbs and spices are enormous in the nose - the rosemary is especially prominent, and there seems to be a minty character as well. There is also some floral, perfume-like hops with the yeast lingering way in the background.

Again, the thyme and rosemary come out first with hints of sweet esters and yeast forming a backbone underneath. There are some grassy floral hops before the herbs and pepper come back for a dry finish.

The mouthfeel is dry and spicy with moderate carbonation.

This one is all about the spices and herbs which dominate everything else. It's good but I prefer the Stone version.

Photo of errantnight
3.86/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Despite the surfeit of herbs, this is reasonably well balanced. A bit lusher and fuller than Stone's take, although the carbonation is a bit more thin. The back of this has a ragged, harsh bitterness that is actually not terribly unpleasant, underscoring the mid-palate sweetness that finish unspeakably clean. Aromas of sage, parsley, rosemary with a touch of sweetness. A couple of quick tweaks would make this worthy of year-roundness for the right meals or just the occasional unusual twist. First, bottle conditioning with a higher carbonation point. This might be a bit dangerous given the already steep bitterness, so perhaps a corresponding recipe tweak would be needed, but no Saison should start off with a nice crown cap and a brilliant gold body and then sit there as flat looking, as absent head and lacing, as this beer does. Also, curbing that slightly over the top bitterness (which almost seems... twiggy) would be a nice touch. Overall, I find myself reaching over and over for this beer, and it's great with the right dish, but it deserves some refinement. This feels like the rough draft.

Photo of DavoleBomb
3.16/5  rDev -17.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured into a snifter. I drank the DFH version a few nights ago and now I'm drinking the Victory and Stone side-by-side.

3.0 A: Nearly clear medium yellow color. Interestingly, unlike the other two, this one poured with just a touch of head that falls quickly, but leaves a ring of lacing. Small particulates throughout.

4.5 S: Though DFH is close, this one smells the best. Like the DFH version, "Big healthy amounts of herbs. I can smell the parsley and rosemary very well and imaging the rest of the aromas can be attributed to the sage and thyme (I don't use them ever so I have no idea what they smell like by themselves). Lemon zest citrus and a touch of general light fruitiness." The difference here is that the herb combination makes the distinctive heart candy aroma from around Valentine's Day. This just flows together even better than DFH's.

2.5 T: Again, like the DFH,the taste is a disappointment. The herbalness that made the nose so nice works against in the taste. It had the same yerba mate like flavor found in the DFH, though thankfully not as strong. Sweeter than the DFH, which works better and a bit of lemon though not much else fruitiness. Alcohol is more hidden this time. Grassy hops. Not bad, but not great, but at least better than the DFH and about on par with Stone.

3.0 M: Medium body. Unlike DFH's "dead carbonation", this carbonation is more typical. The problem, however, is that it's on the low side. Could be creamier and smoother, but all three need this.

2.5 D: This one falls second to the Stone version, but none of them are that good. The Stone one is a bit tastier with a better mouthfeel, giving it the edge.

Photo of jlandis
3.8/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Crystal clear straw golden in color with thin white head.

Lime and earthy herbs (mostly sage) - it feels like I reached into a sage patch and ripped out a fresh bunch. Some lemon and spice with a bit of citrus hops.

Huge sage flavors right up front with lemon and spice with a touch of belgian funk. A bit of pepper in the finish with a strong malty sweetness.

Medium body with solid carbonation.

It's a nice and complex beer, but the sage flavor gets old after a while. Seems more like a novelty beer than one you would want to drink all the time. I'm glad that I had this one, and I'll probably try the DFH and Stone versions sometime in the future to compare.

Photo of WesWes
4.42/5  rDev +15.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

The beer pours a hazy pale gold color with a thick frothy white head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is awesome. It has a huge citrus scent that's big on hops and funk. It's quite spicy with some subtle earthy undertones. The taste is great as well. It has a light pale and wheat malt flavor that's easily quaffable. The hops add a good deal of bitterness and some kick ass citrus notes. The yeast compliments both and contributes some excellent funk to the beer. It goes down easy and finishes dry with a mild earthy character. The mouthfeel is fine. It is a medium bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This is a tremendous beer. I never get tired of drinking these brewery collaborations.

Photo of beerman207
3.98/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Haven't had many farmhouse ales in my life but seeing the collaboration involved here I felt it was my duty to try this one.

A: Pours a nice yellowish color which almost looks like champagne in the glass - lots of bubbles.

S: Floral, lemon, bread, malt, spice

T: Taste is lemon, pepper, malt, earthy, hoppy

M; Strong carbonation but it works

D: Not sure. It's a good beer but for me it isn't very sessionable. Maybe it's the time of year.

Photo of beerprovedwright
4.22/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Good pour with a one finger head of white tight bubbles. Somewhat clinging lace. Color is a 5 on the SRM beer color chart. Smells like orange peel, lemon, pine, ginger. Taste is a wonderful, lemon, lime, spice, orange, hops, and malt. Lots of mouthfeel, bold, and spongy. I already went and bought another. A good refreshing beer with lots of flavor and sets well in my tummy and wallet.

Photo of OWSLEY069
3.94/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a clean pale yellow color with a white head. In the aroma, dry sage and other spices with a small hint of yeastiness. In the taste, dry spice and yeast, sage stands out. A spice bite and medium bodied mouthfeel, with a dry yeasty and spice like aftertaste. Looks like a pilsner, but I think I like this one the best of the three.

Photo of ToasterChef
3.92/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a cellar temperature bottle into a pint glass. We have a clear golden beer with hints of orange in the hue; at least I assume there is orange coloring in the beer and it is not reflecting from the wood grain of the table the glass is on. A white head of tiny bubbles is quickly settling. It leaves a film behind that holds on to a few bubbles. Lots of carbonation is rising in my glass.

This is a pleasantly spicy smelling beer. There is rosemary and coriander as well as pine-like hops. I think there is also a touch of lemon zest. It's a good combination of aromas for a saison.

There is a touch of sweetness as I first taste the beer. Leafy spices (and maybe even whole hops) provide a touch of pepperiness. The fisish is a bit dry, but leaves some of the spice flavor. It has an overall flowery flavor that I like. I certainly isn't a Belgian style saison, but it is a good interpretation of the style.

Medium body and above medium carbonation levels make up the mouthfeel of this beer. A good coating is left behind that has a lot of flavor. It isn't very sticky.

This beer drinks very well. It is a bit strong to have many rounds, but I could certainly to a good amount of damage on a six pack, if ti were sold that way. All in all, it's an enjoyable Victory beer that I would certainly drink again. I'm excited to try the other versions of this beer.

Photo of PhillyStyle
3.77/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer, when poured, appeared to be a clear light golden color with a thin white head.

The aroma of the beer was good, typical of style, sweet, citrus with some spices.

The taste, I thought was a bit light or lacking for the style. I didn't get the same malt and fruity flavor that most Farmhouse Ales have. The taste was more muted than most Farmhouse Ales, not as robust as say a Hennepin.

The beer had a light feel to it. It was certainly well carbonated, as you could swirl the glass and always get a head to come back up as well as the aroma of the beer. The beer had a dry, bitter aftertaste to it. Overall, when compared to others of the same style, I felt that this one, again, was lacking a bit, but a good beer by one of the better brewers.

Photo of blackie
3.72/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

a: st. bernie chalice, clear golden in color with very little head

s: lots of thyme and rosemary on the nose over a clean pils malt body, really nice sage too, phenolic and herbal with a nice yeasty side, some bready sweetness, pulpy hop aromas on the back end, really like the herbs here

m: carbonation light-moderate and prickly, light-medium body

t: rosemary and and thyme seem to take over here, with just a slight pils structure to support, strong phenolics, yeast influence, turns slightly sweet towards the middle, with a crisp noble hop at the finish, same basic concept as the other two in the series, but a little lacking in balance - still find the herbing pleasant, however

d: could be a mood thing, could be the novelty wearing thin, but I enjoyed this less than the DFH version, and both less than the Stone version, but this one is still readily drinkable

single from WF Arlington

Photo of beer2day
4.05/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Very light yellow pour. 1/2 finger head, fades quickly. Light, thin lace.

Nose is herbal, but less so than the DFH and Stone versions. Getting some citrus, but also classic banana and clove.

Creamy taste right up front. Herbs are just all over the map, but less in your face than the other two versions. Hops are definitely present, but could be some of the herbs masquerading. Peppery in the finish.

Body is slightly thinner than the other two versions, but very nice. Creamy, slightly carbonated.

I'm starting to like the farmhouse style more and more, and this is a fine example.

Photo of YouSkeete
3.22/5  rDev -15.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A: Piss yellow, mildly cloudy, small head, moderate lacing.

S: Classic kitchen spices and herbs, such as Thyme, rosemary, sage, some parsley. Citrus aromas are upfront in the nose as well, lemon zest and orange spice. More of a yeasty smell than an earthly one.

T: Taste doesn't differ much from the nose, although it's a lot more bitter and hoppy than i had imagined it would be. Sweet honey taste follows the herbs and spices.

M: Medium body, medium to high carbonation, dry finish.

D: A bit too dry, but a good farmhouse ale nonetheless. If you're curious, go for the DFH version first.

Photo of billab914
3.75/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into my Surly Imperial pint glass. Poured a golden yellow in color with a moderate bubbly white head to it. The head settled to a thin dusting and left just a little lacing as I drank it.

The shows a lot of the spices. The sage, rosemary and thyme all are very evident in the nose. Some lemony and pine citrus come through as well. Very interesting aroma and pretty good too. The herbs are nicely done and pretty flavorful overall.

The taste shows a lot of the herbal qualities. It also has a very moderate lemon citrus to it as well. It finishes with more of a bitterness and with more of the spices present. The herbs add an interesting flavor overall.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied and carbonation is on the higher side. Drinkability is OK, the herbs were definitely interesting and made for a very unique beer but I'm not sure it's a flavor I'd want often in a beer. Cool beer that was definitely worth trying though.

Photo of r0nyn
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into my newly acquired Otter Creek nonic pint glass.

Pours a translucent golden yellow hue with a minimal quarter-inch head that doesn't leave much lacing at all. Bit more subdued than the DFH offering, but I like it all the same. Herbs and spices dominate the nose again, but I can also pick out a bit of malt and yeastiness as well. Maybe a little bit of pine and citrus too amongst the herbal bomb of smells.

Herbs, herbs and more herbs to start, along with some hoppy bitterness. Both are on the subdued side however, and quickly give way to a sweeter malty backbone along with some bubblegum snap yeast. The spices linger into the aftertaste, which coats the tongue pretty well. As it warms, herbs lighten slightly, which is surprising, but not unwelcome. Alcohol is just a warming twinge at the end. Mouthfeel is medium-bodied and crisp, with a little bit of effervescence from the carbonation.

Drinkability is just slightly better than the DFH version to me because of the tempering of the herbal taste as the beer warms up. Towards the end it gets more malty and sweet and I do quite like that so it's a very welcome development. It was an enjoyable brew and I hope I can find the Stone version of it soon to complete the trifecta.

Saison Du BUFF from Victory Brewing Company
86 out of 100 based on 553 ratings.