Saison Du BUFF - Victory Brewing Company

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86
very good

552 Ratings
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Ratings: 552
Reviews: 246
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 13.32%
Wants: 14
Gots: 32 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Victory Brewing Company visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Brewed in collaboration w/ Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Stone Brewing Company, and Victory Brewing Company, who each brewed a version at their own breweries.

(Beer added by: garuda on 08-24-2010)
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Photo of ToAzwethinkweizm
4.9/5  rDev +27.9%
look: 3 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Reviewed on 6 November 2010, on tap at Tap at Mallet in Rochester, NY for the "Victory Total Tap Takeover."

Whoa. What? Here we go.

Served draft in standard American pint glass, no head, no lacing, gold in color. Aroma? Where to begin.... Well to start, there are hops in this draft beer that are SO FRESH, my buddy and I next to me couldn't decide if we enjoyed the fresh hops or the herbs more! Now for the herbs. Who the hell threw my kitchen spice rack in this beer?? The aroma begins with a kick of mint, followed by oregano, sage, MORE FRESH HOPS, some sweet rosemary, and some Belgian flavors. Unbelievable. On the tongue, we say hello to mint, oregano, parsley, a touch of rosemary, Belgian yeast, and just a slight amount of lemon peel. Oh, not to mention those wonderful fresh hops. Wow. This beer goes down real easy and has no alcohol on the tongue or nose. I'd love to order another, but I want to review other beers this night. If you see this bottle in the store, BUY IT. This is a bold beer collaboration between Dogfish, Stone, and Victory (this version is Victory's). I give this beer a perfect score (except for appearance) because I never expected to enjoy it this so much. It would be a perfect beer for those willing to be blown away by the potential of different ingredients that may exist in a beer. This is the oddest session beer I have ever had by far, and I would like another, please.

Photo of speter
4.3/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a slightly hazy deep gold with minimal off-white head. Very little lacing.

S: Mainly Belgian yeast scent with thyme and parsley predominating in the nose. More complex than the DFH version.

T: See the review for the DFH version for my original reservations. This version has a very complex interplay between the yeast and the spices, with the parsley and sage being more present than in the DFH version. The honey is still dominant up front, and the parsley and sage come up more in the center, while the rosemary is just a hint in the aftertaste.
The finish is champagne-like in its dryness.

M: Full-bodied, but well carbonated, so it's quite refreshing.

D: I paired this with a dinner that had parsley, sage, and thyme in it, and man did it rock!

Photo of ChainGangGuy
2.35/5  rDev -38.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

12 ounce bottle - $2.99 at Hop City in Atlanta, Georgia.

Appearance: Pours a lightly hazed, dim-looking yellow body with a large, foaming, white head.

Smell: Curious mixture of various notes of herbs, weeds, leaves, etc. The aroma reminds me of a just-cut lawn when the yard is simply rife with wild onions and wild garlic. Instead of being inviting, it's a bit unappetizing, really. Let's press on!

Taste: Lightly toasty, lightly sweet maltiness for a fast second, then it becomes like angrily chewing through a meal of pungent, just-picked common garden weeds. Who ordered the poke salad topped with low-grade chimichurri? Upsettingly harsh, bitter herb flavor with a curious garlic taste, but not a good garlic taste, more like it was carelessly overcooked, leaving it bitter and nasty. I'm sitting here stunned, with the mood-setting Simon & Garfunkel song Scarborough Fair still playing on loop in the background. The idea for the beer is interesting, the final product is not. Sadly, a lesser work from three renowned breweries.

Mouthfeel: Medium-plus body. Medium-plus carbonation.

Drinkability: This conversation is over.

Photo of metter98
4.1/5  rDev +7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer is clear golden yellow in color. It has a finger high white head and no visible carbonation in the form of rising bubbles.
S: There are moderate aromas of herbs in the nose. Smells of heather, lavender, rosemary and sage seem perceptible.
T: The taste is similar to the smell and somewhat more potent; however the herbal flavors are well balanced with the underlying malts.
M: It feels medium-bodied on the palate; there is some dryness in the finish.
D: The beer is somewhat easier to drink compared to the Stone and Dogfish Head versions. Any traces of alcohol are well hidden.

Photo of aasher
4.1/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I was lucky enough to find one of these after I'd already had the DFH version. This one poured a light and watery bright gold with a one finger white head. The smell is much different than the DFH. This one smells very hoppy right off the bat, which really surprised me, with the herbs used in the brewing subtly in the background. The taste is pretty similar to the DFH version. It's very piny and reminds me of a spruce tree. I can't get tree sap out of my head. It drinks very light and is moderately carbonated and crisp. I like this one, slightly over the DFH version.

Photo of mempath
4.43/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

poured into a DFH pint...don't have a Victory pint!

pours a light, dullish straw (like the DFH) with watery lacing and head. still, for it's style, it's fine. smell is herbal-hoppy (seems stronger than the DFH...haven't had the Stone version yet).

taste matches the nose with strong hoppiness tempered with herbal tincture...something for hopheads looking for something different and a good intro for wannabe hopsters. a quick dry but snappy finish.

very drinkable. i still prefer Dogfish this round...

Photo of TheHoppiest
4.1/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a pint glass. Pours a slightly hazy yellow with a white foamy head.

Smells citrusy, with savory spices, parsely and allspice. Not quite as spicy as the DFH version, but certainly spicy. Slight honey notes as well.

Spicy and tangy, with a fresh herby feel to it. Citrus, mint, malt, rosemary, and pepper, ending slightly bitter. Definitely more hop presence that the DFH version.

Medium mouthfeel, with plenty of pepper on the tongue to get it tingling.

Fairly drinkable, though not as pleasing as the DFH version.

Photo of bluejacket74
4.1/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ounce bottle, label says best by January 16, 2011. This is the last of the Saison du BUFF beers I've tried. Served in a tulip glass, the beer pours a somewhat cloudy light gold color with about an inch white head. Head retention and lacing are both good. Aroma is citrusy hops (tropical fruit, orange peel), herbs and a bit of peppery spice. The herbal flavors are stronger compared to the others in this brew, but the citrusy and grassy hop flavors are still noticable, too. Mouthfeel/body is light/medium, it's a bit coating with good carbonation. Drinkability is good, I think it's a refreshing brew. I enjoyed it, just like I liked the Stone and Dogfish versions of this beer.

Photo of Mississipping
3.93/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle, courtesy of bwd110, poured into a tulip.

A: Pours a surprisingly clear golden yellow with almost no haziness. Very small white head dissipates quickly, leaving only a thin ring that adheres to the edges of the glass. Few bubbles, but still bright and intriguing.

S: Herbal and spicy, backed by a fresh crispiness from citrus fruits, hops and grass. Quite pungent; immediately after pouring, the aroma emanated from the glass, even as I sit several feet from it to write this portion of the review.

T: Hops are much more dominant in the taste, maybe a bit too much. The initial hoppiness is accompanied by a bite from the citrus fruits, followed by a spicy and peppery finish that lingers long after each sip. There's no subtlety here, but I wouldn't say that it's unbalanced; just aggressive.

M: Pretty light bodied and thin, which certainly isn't surprising after seeing it in the glass. Very dry finish that leaves a tart herbal and peppery aftertaste on the center of the tongue.

D: Overall, quite drinkable, and pairs very, very nicely with the lemon peppered tilapia I had with dinner. Really a nice refreshing beer that is perfect on hot, humid, late October days in the South. If I had more, I'd definitely be going back to the fridge for another bottle!

Photo of claspada
3.43/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Beer pours a copper yellow with just a touch of haze. Above average amount of bubbles rising to the top.

Smells like a "spicy" saison, which is good or bad depending on your tastes. Spices, herbs, malts and slight yeast notes.

This is really different, but almost in a good way. Starts out like a traditional saison,then it's followed by an aftertaste of a bouquet of herbs. Crazy herby tastes finish the beer but not like you would expect; it def still tastes like a saison. The PERFECT accompaniment to drink/enjoy with food. Traditional Dogfishhead lack of carbonation; also due to the higher ABV for the style.
While I really enjoyed this and all it's interesting and different tastes, 12oz is just enough for me. Could never have more than one, but it is good enough that you need a whole 12 oz to completely enjoy/appreciated this beer. Good collaboration, but let's not start mass producing this gents...

Photo of ThreeWiseMen
4.22/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

JustinA1 shared this bottle with me. Thanks dude!

Poured into a New Belgium globe.

Appearance: Crystal clear, pale golden body with a faint column of carbonation. A dense, white, crown sits atop and dots the walls of the glass with lace. Looks very clean, especially for a saison.

Smell: Clove, juniper, and herbs a-plenty. Very spicy and herbal, mildly sweet. Much like what Stone tried to do with El Camino (Un)Real, but using a style that embraces unique spices. Very fragrant and enjoyable, even though it lacks the typical funky, horse blanket components.

Taste: Sweet, herbal, and flowery. I can't pin-point the exact herbs (I wanna say juniper is one of them though), but the combination is put together very well. Complex yet still easy. As with the smell, this is not a stereotypical saison.

Mouthfeel: Light-bodied, gently carbonated, and spicy/flowery (soft, not prickly). Very complex and very smooth.

Drinkability: Odd for a saison, but then again, aren't saisons inherently undefined? Saison just means season, doesn't it? Regardless, this is worth the small investment. Go get some!

Photo of 1759Girl
4.55/5  rDev +18.8%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Saison du BUFF

Appearance- very hazy golden, lively white head that dissipates quickly.4

Smell- hops - green buds to the max 5

Taste- wow. Delicious. Sweet and citrusy but with huge hop and wheat finish.complex Balanced. spicy nutmeg 5

Mouf- easy 3

Drinkable - oh so drinkability 4

Photo of dirtylou
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Collaboration saison - Victory edition

picked up a single at Binny's in Schaumburg a few weeks ago

appearance: served in a delirium chalice - pale golden-yellow body, 1/2" white foam head with light lacing

smell: herbal hops, crisp yeast, rosemary, pear, lemon zest, peppercorns

taste: rosemary is significant, zesty yeast, grassy hops, sage, peppercorn, citrus, lemon zest. I remember liking the Stone version more, but this was enjoyable.

mouthfeel: lively, zesty, moderate carbonation

drinkability: good, finished the bottle rather quickly

Photo of jwinship83
3/5  rDev -21.7%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12oz bottle drank from my duvel tulip. the best by date on the bottle is impossible to read.

A- the pour is a very translucent golden straw colored body with a moderate white head on top. the head takes its time receding and leaves behind small spots of lacing.

S- the first thing i think after smelling this is how intensely herbal and floral this smells. somewhat medicinal. thats about all. intensely herbal and floral.

T- as with the smell, the first things i get are floral, herbal, and medicinal notes. it reminds me of a tea. there is also a slight sweetness to it.

M- light and crisp with a high level of carbonation.

D- this one wasnt for me. way too over the top with the herbs. this is a cool idea that isnt executed in a way that appeals to me.

Photo of Damian
2.85/5  rDev -25.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Drank from a 12 fl. oz. bottle
Served in a tulip
Thanks to my friends Dave and Cassandra for this birthday gift.

Brassy yellow and nearly crystal clear in appearance with a stiff, bubbly, bright white, two-finger head. The head slowly faded to a thick ring of lasting bubbles. Small droplets of lacing clung to the sides of the glass.

The nose was super crisp and clean with a distinct herbal quality. Strong sage, thyme and rosemary notes were apparent. Smooth and grassy. Very fresh and somewhat yeasty, in a Belgian-y sort of way. Slightly citrusy. Jasmine flowers were noticeable. A tad sweet.

While the herbal quality was rather pleasant in the nose, it quickly became quite overwhelming in the flavor profile. The beer started out like a typical saison. Crisp and clean up front. There was a nice interplay between the pilsner malts and the grassy hops. Rosemary, thyme and sage came through strong in the center. Notes of heather, orange peel and wild flowers appeared as well. The beer reminded me a lot of a Scottish gruit. The herbal notes crescendoed on the finish. Bitter, piney hops were also quite apparent. As the beer warmed, the intense hoppy/herbal combination made this beer practically undrinkable. On the plus side, the 6.8% ABV was well buried under all these flavors.

The body was medium-thin with a fine, moderate carbonation. A touch more watery than I anticipated.

I usually love intense flavors in my beers but this offering pushed the ticket too far. This is an interesting collaboration effort for sure but definitely not one that I would visit again.

Photo of mjaskula
4.25/5  rDev +11%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Served in a pilsner glass. Pours clear pale yellow with some effervescent bubbles. Even though i poured it vigorously I only ended up with a little bit of head. It thinned to a film and leaves a very small amount of lacing.

The aroma is very interesting, and certainly spicy and distinctive. I imagine that the main aroma is the sage mentioned on the bottle, but I'm not good at identifying spices. It certainly reminds me more of something that I'd expect with chicken than beer. But I don't think this is a bad thing. The flavor continues the aroma adding a touch of lemon, pepper and some sweetness. It's fairly complex.

The mouthfeel is fairly light and the carbonation is mild. Overall I really like this beer and the way that it stands out of the pack. THis will be a great beer to pair with food, and reaffirms the saison as the king of food beer for me.

Photo of Jwale73
3.65/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz. bottle served in my DT tulip. Pours a light, orange-gold with translucent clarity. Head is a quarter inch and off-white and quickly disperses into a skim and a bubbly band around the edges of the glass. Some spots of lacing revealed, but no adhesion. Nose reveals sage, a hint of citrus and a sweet character. Taste follows nose; perhaps the mildest and most balanced of the three variations. Some citrus hits the tongue upfront, followed by a light, earthy bitterness and an herbal character towards the back (sage and mint). Mouthfeel is light-medium with a lively, almost prickly, carbonation and some acidity that stimulates the salivary glands. Perhaps the most drinkable of the three; however, herbal quality is still a little too big to be a go to beer for the style. All and all, an interesting brew and worth a try. Best shared amongst two in my opinion.

Photo of BeerNinja007
4.33/5  rDev +13.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I got this 12oz single at Beverage Warehouse in Winooski VT for $2.75. Some kind of date is stamped on the label but it is completely unreadable. Served cold in a chilled pint glass.

Almost clear lemon yellow brew gives a nice frothy bleach white head. The smell has a great smell of mixed hop, spice, yeast. Candied lemon rind, resiny spruce, apricot, hot fresh cinnamon, some creamy smoothness to the semi-sweet malt background. Taste is really forward with fresh spruce needle and bright litsea blending in with the hop. Some earthy cinnamon and yeast balances it a bit, and the malt adds in a pleasant sweetness. Mouthfeel is on the light side of medium bodied, with a carbonation that's kinda fizzy.

I really enjoy the different kind of flavors here, the strong spruce and the brightness of litsea (compared to the standard lemon). Very spicy for the style, but good.

I thought the flavors I was getting were due to some combo of hop and choice of yeast, but after reading the bottle I see it's a spiced brew. That takes away from it considerably, now it seems contrived. But it's still good. Just wish I knew that going into it.

Photo of crossovert
3.38/5  rDev -11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

12 oz bottle.

It pours a nice clear gold with a bright white head that billows high. As it recedes it leaves some pretty nice lacing.

This one has a bit more parsley than the Dogfish Head example, the sage is also high in the mix, the hops don't seem as pronounced.

The flavor is herbal, but not overbearing. Again this version seems to be heavy on the parsley and sage, they are the predominant flavors. The yeast also comes through.

Overall it is an interesting brew, but it gets tiring after a little while, at least it was only a one off.

Photo of mdaschaf
2.38/5  rDev -37.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Poured into a DFH pint glass

A: Poured a clear golden color with a small head, a little retention, and decent lacing.

S: I get a faint aroma of some of the herbs used here, but an overwhelming aroma of bubblegum.

T: Again, there is a huge bubble gum taste that dominates. I get the herbs on the back end but just barely.

M/D: Mouthfeel is good, with strong carbonation. Not really sure what happened here. I have had the 2 versions made at Stone and DFH and liked both of those. Just a confusing beer.

Photo of JoeAmerican77
3.8/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured out a smooth golden stream with very small frothy head and lazy bubbles.

Smelled instantly of pink fruits-grapefruit and guava, sage, and hops a garden for the nose.

Tastes of green guava, green peppers and yellow peppers, basil and sage... my girl friend says it should be a pizza topping thats up for debate... a little belgian candy when it warms. Crisp at the outset, soft and sweet near the end.

Mouthfeel is a strong medium body with delicate carbonation, stays in the mouth for a bit could use a light mozzarella and Basil to go with it and clear the palate.

Drinkability is high i'd recommend it.

The value is mediocre... a good beer but only 12oz for 4 bucks and tax... I wish for better deals before beer becomes wine.

Photo of Beejay
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Bright yellow, slightly hazy with low amounts of pure white head.

S: That thing has some crazy spices in it. Rosemary and Sage are very present, as well as a slight hop aroma in the finish.

T: There is a pretty big hit from the hops sharp, citric, and clean bitterness fades into a tangy taste with some spices.

M: Fairly light, very crisp and bright feeling. Carbonation seems a bit low for the style, but I think the tartness and citrus flavors seem to make the beer feel more alive on your tongue.

D: Very nice over all. Very clean and enjoyable. I feel like there is a pretty good balance between the hops and the spices used in it. Very enjoyable.

Photo of bbeane
3.9/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A- Starts with a weak head that disappears quickly leaving nothing behind. Beer is a crisp straw yellow color with very light activity

S- Sweet, yeasty aroma. Smells earthy... citrus and banana

T- Has a sweet start. Spices, citrus, and banana... followed by lightly bitter finish

M- Light body with light carbonation

D- Very tasty. Very similar to the DFH saison du buff besides a slightly weaker appearance and less carbonation IMO

Photo of beerthulhu
3.13/5  rDev -18.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Brewed at Victory in co-operation with Stone and Dogfishhead.

A: Pale straw pour appears brassy yellow in the glass. Fizzy, slightly soapy head disappoints and dissipates rather quickly before getting a good visual sense. The lacing is equally disappointing leaving the glass squeaky clean. Visible carbonation was light and lazy on the rise, laid back and lackluster would be other words to describe.

S: The nose was average as with the visual appear, disappointing, weak with a pale showing of lemony peels and some soft solvent notes. Not much else to be had here.

T: Sweet grains meets a kiss of lemons and a spicy hopping. Warm pineapple slices, pine and a touch of grapefruit-grass are also supporting factors. The malt base is light, composed mostly of pale grains with little speciality influence. There is a distinct yeasty character of grain feed coming about while the finish finds a brief candy sweetness followed by a wet lemony hopping and spicing that reminds me a bit of sorachi hops. Decent but stops a tad short of being good.

M: Light bodied the texture is a bit watery finding a spicy dry lemon fade upon the swallow.

D: Not something I would drink often or in multiples. Probably the weaker of the three interpretations. Worthy of a single purchase, a six pack would find its way sitting around for a while.

Photo of jampics2
4.03/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle into a snifter. Purchased at Warehouse Beverage.

The beer pours a slightly cloudy gold color, with unimpressive head. I wish there was more rockiness or some cling, but I guess this will have to do. The color almost makes up for it, though, as it really does look like sunshine in the glass. Good color but lacking in the head retention/lace department.

The smell is primarily of a touch of white pepper and tons of herbs and citrus. Some orange and lemon are clobbered by rosemary, thyme and parsley. Herbal, earthy and not too overpowering. The herbs do kind-of jump out of the glass.

The taste is great if you're into the herbs. There's a mild citrus sweetness thanks to the lemon and orange hints, and a touch of white pepper too. The herbs come off a bit like herb bread - lots of rosemary and some thyme, with the parsley and sage hanging out in the background and making just a brief appearance.

The mouthfeel is nice for this beer, although just a touch on the creamy side for a saison. The body is medium and the carb isn't too heavy. The beer is substantial and has a nice sweet finish. The herbs linger as well. This is a nice beer and all, and I think it's probably the most approachable of the three saisons for the uninitiated. But I really dig the scent of the Stone, the taste of the Dogfish Head, and the feel of this. Cuvee Du Buff, anyone?

Saison Du BUFF from Victory Brewing Company
86 out of 100 based on 552 ratings.