Saison Du BUFF - Victory Brewing Company

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very good

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Reviews: 250
Hads: 570
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 12.01%
Wants: 15
Gots: 40 | FT: 0
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Victory Brewing Company visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: garuda on 08-24-2010

Brewed in collaboration w/ Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Stone Brewing Company, and Victory Brewing Company, who each brewed a version at their own breweries.
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Photo of NEhophead
3.6/5  rDev -6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

12 fl oz brown bottle served in a tulip.

Pale straw/thin gold in color with only a slight haze; rather good clarity. Noticeably active carbonation. Creamy white head that caves to a porous sheet after a moment. Little lasting lacing.

Muted coriander and some herbal aromas mark the musty quality which is brightened by lemongrass, lemon zest, and raspberry.

Initially, there are some light, pleasantly muted berry and barely-sweetened melon qualities; very clean, absent from any tartness. The herbal, medicinal quality plays in the background throughout the sip, yet only comes to the forefront following an earthen, somewhat bitter finish.The herbal quality lingers just a bit too long in the aftertaste.

Rather light on the palate, even for the style. The carbonation is kept in check; remarkably smooth.

A lighter Saison both in terms of traditional flavor and body. Although there are some flaws in flavor, this is a really nice take on the style with a bit of a twist. (980 characters)

Photo of dougdecinces
3.81/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle. Bought this at Findlay Market in Cincinnati. I didn’t realize when I purchased it that each brewery made their own version. Stone’s and Victory’s were in stock and I ended up getting Victory’s version. This is my third attempt in my goal of getting in to Saisons. First was Saison DuPont, then Tank 7, now this. Poured a slightly hazy gold. Thin layer of persistent head. Very effervescent. Smell is predominantly pear and orange zest. Medium body and carbonation for the style. Pear flavors and a medicinal taste which must be the rosemary and sage are present. This medicinal taste is by no means unpleasant. It’s just what I interpret it as. The ester/phenolic ratio is greatly shifted towards the former. In fact, I can barely trace any perceptible phenolics. This is good, as I think the strong phenolic flavors are what I don’t like about the style. Tart. Medium body and carbonation for the style. Somewhat sticky finish. I’ll need to check my notes, but I think this is my favorite Saison that I’ve had thus far. Solid beer. (1,056 characters)

Photo of jtierney89
3.5/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Crystal clear straw color with a 1 finger bright white head. Lots of visible effervescence. Initial funk on the nose of barnyard and sour fruits. As the beer airs intense floral hops become prominent with some earthy spiciness.

Actually pretty hoppy from start to finish. Bright effervescence with a medium mouthfeel. Bright fruits, mixed with rustic earthiness dominate the mid-palate, sweet cereal like grains play with the tip of the tongue, and the beer finishes with a spicy herbal bitter snap. A slightly sour aftertaste lingers in the mouth, but it's nothing overwhelming.

A unique take on a Saison but the focus seems to be on the hops rather than the yeast. A good beer, but maybe it strays a bit too far from the intended style. (741 characters)

Photo of thecheapies
3.6/5  rDev -6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Couldn't find a bottling date, kind of unusual for Victory. But, we'll proceed without haste.

Pours a yellow-orange Riesling color and with nice clarity. Light haze. Light head. Almost none at all, actually. Looks like wine now except for a ring of foam and some surface scum.

Sweet herbal nose with light rosemary, chewed-up parsley, and some sage. Some candied citrus peel in the background. Smells lightly spiced. Perhaps, coriander?

Not as sweet as expected. A plethora of cloaked herbal notes. Primary black pepper and thyme in the flavor. Has a pulverized yeast flavor that couples with notes of rosemary and oyster crackers. A mild concoction, but teeming with herbal and spice notes. Touch of the floral. Snappy hop character and subsequent bitterness preside over the middle-end with a sneaky alcohol note that is piercing, yet transient.

Almost creamy medium body with the effervescence at work here. Not brushy, but smooth. A little smack of booze, and almost warmth, brings me back to earth. The booze gets stuck between my teeth a bit and in around my gums.

Balance is a little questionable. Absent dryness would bring me some relief. The flavors are all in-sync and the nose is a little more terrific than my score would suggest (where's that 3.75 rating when I need it?). Not as raw and showy as Dogfish Head's version, and unfortunately not as good. Evened out with a little sweetness; enough to mask the punchy herbal notes of rosemary, thyme, and sage. Worth a spin. I'd, personally, like to complete the trifecta and nab a bottle of Stone's Du BUFF. (1,573 characters)

Photo of tdm168
4.12/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a Southern Tier tulip

A - gold with a soft cap of white, loose head that has little retention

S - rosemary, thyme, faint yeast; like my Italian grandmother's kitchen

T - faint malt up front with a heavy, herbal, bitter hoppiness that follows. The rosemary, sage, and thyme are noticeable but not as pronounced amongst the hops. They're present mostly in the finish. The is only a slight hint of Belgian yeast.

M - medium bodied, a bit warm, crisp, well carbonated

This is a nice Saison. It has a nice hop character that I really enjoy. The spices are noticeable and balanced which is also great. The drinkability is pretty high, but after a full 12 oz my palate was looking for a change of pace. It's definitely worth a try. I would probably have this again. (775 characters)

Photo of babaracas
3.47/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a mostly clear cold with one finger thick white head, settles to a thin ring leaving nearly nothing behind. Smell: grassy, lemon, some herbal notes. The thyme is somewhat recognizable, but overall the herbs seem toned down from DFH's version (though luckily the muddy half-rotted parsley stench is absent). Taste: classic thyme and rosemary combo, lemon, quick but sharp evergreen hit (from sage perhaps), spicy and slightly grassy. Pale malt base. Herbs aren't over the top, but still get tiresome before the end of the bottle. Medium bodied, sharp carbonation, semi-dry finish. Better than DFH's version, but only slightly. (631 characters)

Photo of DrDemento456
3.38/5  rDev -11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I really enjoyed the dogfish head version so I picked the victory version for 3 bucks.

A - Looks of a nice golden color, mild bubbles and a 1/4 inch of foamy sticky head that sticks around a bit. Lacing is nice.

S - Smells a lot heavier than the Dogfish version with a more pronounced yeast and spices. Almost herbal in quality of spices and hops.

T - Damn what happened Victory? The body is muddled with chalky not fruity yeasts, it drinks rather watery, and I am getting a sharp taste of coriander.

M - Most confusing it drinks rather medium bodied (due to spices) yet is much more watery.

Overall I would skip this version and try Dogfish heads or possibly as good stone version. (688 characters)

Photo of Bung
3.97/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz. Clear gold pour, not much head really, just a thin layer of white.

Aroma, very herbal, like after mowing over some weeds. Some musty funk and citrus zest.

Taste, spicy, I like it. Green herbs and pepper. Some grapefruit. Hay like malt. A little bitterness in the finish. Flavorful, without the clove and other sweet spices I don't care for.

To the right if light bodied, with a not quite creamy active carbonation. Drinks pretty easy.

Like what the Mediterranean area spices do to this. (496 characters)

Photo of Iceman77
4.21/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This collaboration pours a medium golden color with light fluffy head that recedes quickly, my bottle did not leave much residual lacing on the surface or the glass. The smell is where it starts to get good, fairly complex and in your face. There is grapefruit and pine mixed with fresh cut flowers/grass, and the aromas are potent but not overpowering. The flavor brings more of the same, along with the familiar peppery clove spiciness of a Saison. There is a decent amount of carb and bitterness, that lingers slightly on the back of the tongue. All in all, farmhouse ales aren't my go to style, but you know when DFH, Stone and Victory get together the results will be quality, and this certainly was. (705 characters)

Photo of KMcG
3.87/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A: Poured into a tulip glass with no head development. The color is golden and slightly foggy. There is nice lacing that stays as the beer warms. 

S:faintly herbal, sweet, lemon, and a yeast bready aroma

T: the thing about the taste is that I get two different experiences with different sips.  One has peppery  hops and hints of white grape and the other is strongly lemon and crisp.  The finish is herbal hops.

M: light to medium bodied, light carbonation, and some bitterness than hangs on.  (502 characters)

Photo of Knapp85
4.12/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer poured out as a nice perfectly clear looking gold color. The head was a little foamy looking and white. The lacing was a little on the sticky side leaving a touch of lacing on the glass. The smell is huge on this beer. Lots of herbal floral aromas in the brew. Very earthy and fresh smelling. The taste of the beer was crisp and floral too, loaded with a sharp bitter finish to it. The mouthfeel of the beer is very light and refreshing, sharp carbonation to it as well and finishes dry. Overall this beer is quite good, I would like to compare this with the other that were put out by Stone and DfH as well. (618 characters)

Photo of MagicJeff
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Picked up in a Pick-6 at Total Wine. 12 oz bottle into a pint glass

Appearance: Slightly cloudy, golden. Half a finger head reduces but some still retains. Looks pretty refreshing. Cool bottle too.

Smell: Lots of herb scent. Slight citrus, some hop.

Taste: Very complex. The intitial rosemary and other herbs may seem overwhelming, but as you progress drinking it, lemon and other citrus become prevalent. Kind of grassy too. I would really like to cook (basting a chicken comes to mind) with this beer. Peppery, almost spicy finish. The tartness of the lemon pairs well with the herb taste. Particularly like the rosemary. The soapy feel takes a second to get used to but the spice helps it go down smooth. Is that peach I taste at the very end?

Mouthfeel: Light to medium bodied mouthfeel with moderate carbonation.

Overall: A very cool summer beer. Coming from three awesome breweries, this is something I expected. I know that the same recipe is used by each brewery, but I wonder how the Stone and Dogfish versions taste. This style of beer isn't my favorite but definitely worth trying. So many different flavors compliment each other, great work, especially for three breweries coming together. (1,206 characters)

Photo of Morey
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured yellow-orange in color, and was capped by a good 2 fingers of off-white foam. Slightly hazy appearance, but very effervescent looking. Head retention and lacing are just OK.

Herbs, lemon, tartness, and a slight funkiness in the nose.

I'm getting the rosemary and some tart lemon up front. There's also a mild grassy flavor that follows. You start to get the thyme about mid-palate. There's a touch of sweetness as the beer starts to warm. Herbs linger after the swallow as well as some mild hop bitterness.

Light to medium bodied mouthfeel with moderate carbonation.

Morey's Bottom Line: Super refreshing. Herbs and citrus flavors work well together. A great summer saison, and the addition of the herbs really help make this beer stand out from others within the style. Recommended. (794 characters)

Photo of JerzDevl2000
3.88/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked up a bottle of this last week in Totowa since I saw this this had a limited brewing release. I like Saisons and this was about as textbook as one got from an American offering. From the cloudy hue, soapy consistency, and peppery-type spice, this was pretty much what I had expected once I poured it out and the alcohol was well-hidden as well. This was worth savoring, without a doubt!

As to be expected, this was golden and fluffy with a nice amount of accompanying lacing. Some pepper and sourness to the nose and when tasted, those notes were a bit more intense. The mouthfeel was pretty cloying and the body was nicely balanced. Because the alcohol was fairly strong, this warmed me up a bit too. Not a lot of fruit flavors here as this tended more towards the grassy and earthy side, and that's the only aspect of this beer that I would have changed.

The alcohol was present but not overpowering and this was a a very good American take on the style, from top to bottom. While not as good as Victory's other beers, this was pretty solid an only a few notches behind its European counterparts. (1,107 characters)

Photo of burnstar
4.04/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a pretty bright gold with a medium sized head. Some lacing on the surface. Great smell. Herbal. Peppery. The label mentions rosemary and sage and you can notice these and other herbal notes as well. Really great smelling stuff. This doesn't taste quite as good as it smells. Again, herbal notes- but I'm not sure if I like it in the taste of a beer. Very little sweetness. Pleasant bitterness throughout. Medium bodied and well carbonated. Fairly drinkable. Overall this is an interesting beer and I do like it but it just seems a little off. (548 characters)

Photo of Swim424
3.03/5  rDev -20.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured into a boston lager pint glass

A-Clear gold yellow. Small head leaving a white layer on top. Lots of bubbles coming up.

S-Smells of wheat, yeast, a bit bready maltiness to it. Sort of like a hefeweisen (sp?).

T-A bit of spices in the immediate front, moving towards a very dull middle, and finishing with a bit of a wheaty flavor. Not really any hops present. Definitely a taste of yeast throughout. Not very sweet.

MF-A very thin beer. Seems a bit watered down, which probably makes it taste a bit better since the flavor isn't all that great. Leaves a bit of a bready coating in my mouth afterwards.

O-This is alright. Nothing special by any means. I have had a sip of it on tap and it wasn't much better and I had a few sips of the dogfish release as well. I do enjoy a good saison, but this isn't doing it for me. Love all three breweries but I expected a lot more from them. I will still try to find the one in the stone bottle as well just for my collection, its not so bad I couldn't have it again, but over all this is very average. (1,055 characters)

Photo of brentk56
4.42/5  rDev +15.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Pours a clear golden color with a respectable head that leaves a fair bit of lacing

Smell: Very herbacious, with sage and rosemary with a bit of tart lemon

Taste: Opens with lemon, rosemary and sage flavors that accompany a bready malt backbone; grows increasingly lemony by mid-palate with all of the flavors melding nicely, into the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate carbonation

Overall: Very nicely done - would love to taste this and the Dogfish side by side (488 characters)

Photo of BarryMFBurton
3.76/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Victory, Stone, and Dogfish Head are three of my favorite breweries, so I couldn’t pass this one up. Cheers!

A: So golden it’s impeccable: the color of this body is truly glorious. The cream that erupts does not stand very high, but its creamy white texture is evident at every turn of the glass – lots of bubbly lacing over just a spot of retention. Bubbles are everywhere throughout the body, rising up to keep the head at just a touch of cream.

S: Whoa…that is a huge herbal character. It’s mainly sage and parsley, spiced stupendously. Every little note is noticeable: you can pick out both the rosemary and the thyme, and even a minty, chamomile tea presence. The malts and yeast, like most saisons, exhibit a Belgian banana and dry vanilla bean with a grassy fruit leaf backdrop; and, as these breweries are experts in hoppy brews, there’s a good hint of lemon rind bitterness.

T: Herbal in the tongue, as well, with near-salty bitterness and the pure essence of parsley, sage, and rosemary. The hops are not very bitter, but with a salty, citrusy command of grapefruit juice over the whole of the palate. Thyme and grass, rind and oats, the grains are as textured as ever, while the spirit of good yeast comes forward in just a touch of buttery toast. The finish is just a spot of the earthen dryness and some slight corn flavor.

M: A light body, though this saison is proficiently carbonated. The herbs are bitter, keeping this feel from being all chewy breads; there’s notable dryness here.

O: Saison du BUFF isn’t an intensely satisfying beer, but it is complex and delicious. Tasty collaborations keep popping up among my beer experiences, and I’m glad this one has continued the streak. To Stone, Victory, and Dogfish Head – brew more, ASAP! (1,778 characters)

Photo of ChrisPratz
4.15/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Been waiting for this since early April when I first got my hands on the Dogfish Head SDB.

A: Very nice light amber color pours to about 2 fingers of head that dissipates to a nice fluffy veil of lace at the top that clings all the way down and sticks around for awhile.

S: Nice and aromatic. Get grains right off the bat with the thyme and parsley coming on after that.

T: Very piney up front leading into a strong rosemary flavor that leads way to the thyme, sage and then the parsley. Very well balance and everything flows from one herb to the next with a nice transition. Again not the best beer i've had but its very unique and def worth trying.

M: Light carbonation, and the after taste lingers a bit and your left with a dry taste at the end.

O: Again a very nice collaborative job with these three breweries. They always impress and I look forward to trying to Stone SDB next month. (898 characters)

Photo of cindyjeffsmith
3.66/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: a tad nondescript. Light straw colored, clear.
Smell: very interesting. Wild flowers, citrus, grassy, redolent with herbs.Very nice indeed.
Taste: Bit of a letdown. A quite simplistic and watered down version of what was expected from the nose.
Overall: interesting. Glad i tried, but not a standout. (312 characters)

Photo of Rifugium
1.39/5  rDev -63.7%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

First had: on tap at TJ's, Paoli, PA

I had the DFH version of this in a bottle last year, so I thought it would be interesting to try Victory's version. I like Victory a lot, and I liked the DFH version of this beer. That said, I'll now say this: whew...this has gotta be one of the worst beers I've had since I entered the craft beer scene. I don't know if it was a bad keg or what, but something was clearly off here.

Served in a tulip glass, crystal clear golden color with a thin white head that dissipated almost entirely. Nose loaded with spices and stale funk, minor fruity esters. I kind of recoiled instantly, but I decided to go back for a taste anyway. Taste of bland malts and sundried tomatoes, overripe fruit, raw mint leaves, way, way too much rosemary on top of the other spices (I don't mind spices in beer, but the amount used here was literally sickening), phenols, grassy funk. I gagged half of this down before pushing it aside. Mouthfeel is chewy, medium body, very off-balanced, with a really stale, vegetal feel all over.

Rarely do I find a beer that I seriously cannot choke down, but this is one of those. I will definitely stay far away from this one in the future. (1,195 characters)

Photo of Cyberkedi
3.97/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Malty aroma has a VERY strong overtone of rosemary. Yes, definitely rosemary. It pours a clear solar yellow with a thick and fluffy white head that hangs around for a little. Not inspiring, but this is a saison and I am a stoutie. Flavor has a malty core and - whoa Nellie, that rosemary flavor hits the taste buds like a Hummer! It has some grassy, woody and hoppy undertones and a fair amount of bitterness. Definitely a sipping beer. Flavor has good body and plenty of tingle and sass. I love these collaboration beers. (522 characters)

Photo of dbrauneis
3.83/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Pours a crystal clear pale golden yellow with some light amounts of visible carbonation. The beer has a quarter finger tall white head that quickly reduces to a thin ring at the edges of the glass and a small extremely thin film patch. Moderate lacing is observed.

S: Lots of herby notes in the aroma of this beer - lavender, rosemary, and sage. Smells very inviting.

T: Some light underlying malts upfront with fairly intense herb flavors - lavender, rosemary, and sage. The beer has a very nice balance.

M: Medium bodied with moderate amounts of carbonation. Dry in the finish.

O: Quite easy to drink, refreshing, and enjoyable. Perhaps not the best saison that I have had but it is a very easy drinking beer. I think this is better than the DFH and I'm still waiting to try the Stone version. Glad that I tried it. (825 characters)

Photo of EgadBananas
3.85/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Having recently had the DFH iteration, figured it'd be fitting to pick up the Victory version.

Pours a medium sunny translucent color, with a bone white head of maybe about a finger. There's a bit of sweetness on the nose, with a fair amount of a sort of hay/musky aroma. Light bits of citrus, grass and some floral notes with a touch of white pepper. The taste has a more bready, yeasty sweetness, with a touch of bitterness and citrus, floral hops and a slight not of musty hay. There's a bit of creaminess, and it lacks a bit of the effervescence that I've come to enjoy with Saisons, but it's body is lighter.

Overall, it's not a fantastic Saison, but that doesn't make it enjoyable. I'm glad I tried it, and hope I can try the Stone version at some point, but I don't think I'll seek the other two out any further. (822 characters)

Photo of CloudStrife
4.12/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle poured into a goblet.

A: Pours a crystal clear golden color with a 1.5 finger puffy white head. Lots of large bubbles are visible rising to the surface. Head dwindles to a film within a few minutes. Good lacing on the sides.

S: Initial smell hits you with spice and herb. Can really pull out the rosemary, sage and thyme. A little wheat in the background and a real faint hop bitterness.

T: Starts off with some light herb and spice. Some wheat body in the middle. Ends with a little bitterness from the hops. Really enjoy those spices in this style.

M: Fairly light on the palate. Good carbonation and a clean finish.

Overall a unique saison that is definitely worth a try. I'm always partial to beers that are pushing the envelope which I am sure will show in my review. A little less spice/herb than the dogfish head version. (846 characters)

Saison Du BUFF from Victory Brewing Company
86 out of 100 based on 250 ratings.