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Saison Du BUFF - Victory Brewing Company

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87
very good

552 Ratings
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Ratings: 552
Reviews: 246
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 13.32%
Wants: 13
Gots: 31 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Victory Brewing Company visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Brewed in collaboration w/ Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Stone Brewing Company, and Victory Brewing Company, who each brewed a version at their own breweries.

(Beer added by: garuda on 08-24-2010)
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Photo of Brad007
4.2/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a light gold color with a one-finger head into my glass. Looks kind of sterile for the style.

Lots of citrusy hop goodness to greet my nose. There's barely a hint of spice from the yeast present.

The hops dominate the palate upfront with a decent grassy, citrus feel to them. No surprises here. Just a hint of spice from the yeast.

Mouthfeel is full of lingering grassy/citrus flavors. They leave a good indentation in the mouth.

It's definitely an americanized saison and if you've had Stone's version of this collaboration beer, you might expect the same. I like Victory's twist on it and I would love to have it from the tap.

Brad007, Sep 18, 2010
Photo of irishking1977
2.75/5  rDev -28.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: Clear, bright golden hue, with a minimal head. Decent, but ususally Saison's have big, white pillowy heads.

S: Hmmm. I don't know what to make of this. Smells like a vege pizza without the cheese and sauce. And with lots of garlic. Bizarre. I can only imagine what it tastes like.

T: Again. Puzzled. I don't think I hate this, but I definitely don't think I like this either. Barely a hint that this one is actually a saison. Garlic and parsley are the first two flavors that hit me right in the "balls" of my palate. I guess credit goes to the brewers that collaborated on this one for trying something different, but sometimes different is not always a good thing. I doubt this was brewed solely for the purpose of cooking, but I think this might be the only useful means for this beer.

M: Good, solid strong carbonation, with a pretty watery finish.

D: One and done. Nice try to the brewers, but this one just doesn't sit well on the palate. I, for one love trying new and unique beers, but this one is way off of style, and way off on good, bizarre beers.

irishking1977, Sep 17, 2010
Photo of WVbeergeek
3.3/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Appears pale golden slightly hazed hue with a bright white head and forms fine even lacing down the sides of my glass. Aroma full of fresh herbals alot of rosemary/citrus/grassiness. Malt base shines through with pale biscuit malt tones and spicy yeast characters. Flavors hit maybe too aggressive with with botanical/herb additions. Full on stem/leafy rosemary bitterness masks many aspects of a nice saison that could be here somewhere...I thought the Stone version was rough and the DFH a bit more palatable, but this one is unbalanced on it's own. Use as a marinade with some chicken breast or serve it with a nice meal, on it's own this is a bit much. I can't picture this flavor working in a regular offering, interesting experiment, but I've done enough sampling of these herb/spiced brews with these 3 interpretations. Mouthfeel dry in the finish with overkill herbaceous qualities, medium bodied decent carbonation. Drinkability overall I think I've said enough about my sentiments on the repeat drinkability, serve in small portions with herbally infused meats.

WVbeergeek, Sep 16, 2010
Photo of Soonami
3.75/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Victory's version of Saison Du Buff is a nice saison and the first of the series that I have had. I have the rest of the them and am looking to try them all together to compare.

This beer is a light crisp beer that was very pale and had almost no head. The beer smelled primarily of freshly crushed sage, rosemary and lemon peel. The beer definitely had the flavors from the herbal additions as well as a sound bitterness and peppery bite and a tartness in the sweet finish. For me it was a bit too sweet and the herbs dominated the flavors and aromas not really balancing with the beery contributions. The carbonation was a bit low for my liking. Overall this was a good beer that was well made and easy finished

Soonami, Sep 13, 2010
Photo of TMoney2591
3.05/5  rDev -20.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Served in a snifter at The Firkin.

Part II of the BUFF triple play. It pours a generally clear pale straw topped by a half-finger of white foam. The nose comprises light pasta sauce (a red one), garlic, Belgian yeast, and a more-than-healthy smattering of window-box herbs, mostly those four Simon and Garfunkel entries. The taste holds notes of wheat, horse blanket, the aforementioned herbs, Belgian yeast, greens, and a light kiss of citrus hops. The body is on the lighter side, with a light moderate carbonation and a dry finish. Overall, I find this thing to be a miss. The herbs just don't do it for me. Without them, I think this could have been a pretty solid saison, but that point's moot now.

TMoney2591, Sep 12, 2010
Photo of zoso1967
3.68/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Victory's version of Saison DuBuff is served up a deep golden color with a very creamy and sticky looking white head. The head fades to leave a ring around the glass and leaves splashes of lace here and there on the glass.

The aroma is full of piney herbal notes that are very fresh smelling. This seems to be much more herb and spice forward than the stone version of the brew. There is also a sweet, slightly orchard like sweetness in the aroma and a hint of that unmistakable saison yeast note.

The herbal bouquet is much more subdued in the flavor. The slightly wheaty pale malt comes through a lot more, but this beer is far from sweet, and in fact I find it to be more bitter than an average saison. There is a real mintyness in the flavor, and a bit more pine and the sage are coming through. I have to note, while the herbal flavors are interesting, they seem to be completely obscuring the peppery and slightly funky esters that I enjoy so much in this style.

The body is on the lighter side of medium and very dry. The finish is quite balanced though, and the carbonation is very nice. I am getting an interesting aftertaste in my mouth that I am pretty sure is coming from all the herbs.

Refreshing, but just like the stone version of the same beer, this is just not convincing me that I should have another. I was very intrigued by how different the same recipe tasted when brewed with different water and on different equipment. Hopefully I will be able to track down a DFH version so I can complete the trifecta.

zoso1967, Sep 12, 2010
Photo of gtn80
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured out of a bottle into a pint glass

Appearance is a light copper color, very clear. Tiny one finger head dissappears quickly.

Aroma is incredibly fragrant, lots of herbal notes coming through. Almost a ginger scent in the back.

Taste is great, herbs hit up front, really spicy. Not much yeast character, just lots of herbs and a bit of bready malt and finishes dry and a touch bitter.

Mouthfeel is full, definitely not as thin as some saisons.

Drinkability is pretty soft, all those herbs and that dryness, one in a session is plenty for me.

gtn80, Sep 12, 2010
Photo of BigMike
3.6/5  rDev -6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a pale straw yellow. A small amount of haze. Very small half a finger head tops it off.
The nose is mostly sage with some floral and citrus notes. Not as fragrant as the DFH offering.
Some orange and biscuit bread like flavors come through. Lots of pepper on the finish and seems a bit maltier then the DFH.
Oily on the tongue. Coats the mouth leaving a peppery bitter finish.
Overall this one wasn't as clean and fresh tasting as the DFH but still enjoyable. Worth a shot.

BigMike, Sep 12, 2010
Photo of drtth
4.3/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into an imperial pint glass. Glass of cold water on the side to sip from periodically.

Appearance: As poured the beer is a clear bright golden yellow with a ¼" to ½" fluffy white head that recedes to a ring and irregular island of large bubbled foam on the surface. Sipping leaves small sheets and irregular patterns of lacing, some of which cling to the sides of the glass.

Smell: The aroma is filled with the herbs. Sage dominates the rest of the herb garden in a complex interplay that reminds of the fresh grassiness of Spring. But it is not all Sage, there are definitely other herbs coming in to play here.

Taste: As predicted from the nose the flavor is initially dominated by the Sage but then it takes on an almost peppery character that recedes into the back ground as the other herbs begin to show up and introduce themselves. First we have the Rosemary putting in an appearance followed by the Thyme showing up almost as an after thought. Underlying all there is a full fresh grassy character that may be either the Parsley, the hops, or some combination of both. The malt and the hops are the supporting cast and this beer is all about showcasing the herbs.

Mouthfeel: The mouth feel is medium bodied, crisp and tingly with the sharp, prickly carbonation. The finish is dry throughout as the different spices fade, leaving only a dry bitterness.

Drinkability: I enjoyed this one and would be happy to have a repeat either right now or again in the future. While this would not be an every day choice, it is a very nice threat.

drtth, Sep 11, 2010
Photo of TheFightfan1
4.13/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a tulip. Pours a crystal clear yellow maybe a touch darker. Decent fluffy white heading. Lacing is good doesn't leave to many ringlets.

Smell at first whiff has all the trimings. Rosemary,spice a bit of some yeasty fruitiness. Second whiff a little hoppier and full of rosemary.

Taste has alot going on. A bit different than the nose. A nice cracker like malty snap.Middle gets a little lost than a kick of citrus hops surface immediately put down by the spicey linger.

Mouth is super smooth and bubbley with that nice linger of spice. Again more towards rosemary. Lightly bodied and full of flavor.

Very similiar to it's brother from Stone but a simple and different tweak. Well now time from the offering from DFH.

TheFightfan1, Sep 11, 2010
Photo of Stigs
4.2/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

on tap at Spoon...excited about trying the Victory-take. 6oz sample served in a small glass

A - clear, dark yellow beer, not cloudy like its Stone-counterpart. fluffy inch or so of just off-white colored foam.

S - very grassy, fresh, a good bit of slightly tart lemony fruits...a little more concise than other versions. good amount of herbal spices, thyme, basil, mint...pleasant and inviting.

T - heavily dosed with garden-herbs, thyme, rosemary, basil and mint...not overdone though. tart and lightly sweet lemons cut through everything, along with a light grassy hoppiness. good balance.

M - medium bodied, crisp and tight carbonation. dry clean finish...lingering herbal spice and grassy bitterness.

D - enjoyed this much more than the Stone version for whatever reason...everything felt more in check and more harmonized and balanced. great with foods as a nice flavor compliment.

Stigs, Sep 10, 2010
Photo of obireidkenobi
4.35/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I really didn't know what to expect going into this beer. Turns out, I was impressed.

A- Light colored saison. Not a lot of head.

Smell - Grass, some spice.

Taste - Quite light actually. The spices were prevalent, and light.

Mouthfeel - Again, light and crisp

Drinkability - Finished faster than I expected, went back for more.

Looking forward to the other 2 editions.

obireidkenobi, Sep 09, 2010
Photo of Casey10
4.18/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Wow a great saison really nice. I had the stone version and somehow missed the DFH one. I found this at RSVP in Portland.

A - Yellow with no head whatsoever. Slight sticy lacing on the side.

S Slight grassy smell peppery.

T not getting that heavy basil that I got with the stone version. Lemonpepper is apparent here.

M - Slight tart typical Farmhouse feel.

D - Smooth easy drink. Recomended try for anyone seeking the style. Recomend.

Casey10, Sep 08, 2010
Photo of jlenik
3.93/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - A pale yellow/golden color
S - herbal and citrusy aromas.
T - A lot less bold than the Dogfish version. Herbal tastes are still present and it feels like a more balanced brew.
M - Quite easy, this have minimal carbonation with no heaviness but this is is a saison so it shouldn't.
D - I can't decided if I like this or the Dogfish version better but they both taste similar enough. Easy to drink and at 6.8% abv, please watch out.

jlenik, Sep 07, 2010
Photo of jbertsch
4.35/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Had this on tap. I saw that it was brewed with rosemary, sage, etc, and I thought "what a great match for the herb chicken I just ordered!". It was a great match.

Its color was a yellowish gold. Fairly clear. A bit fizzy looking. Bartender didn't the pour any head on the pour, but I don't know if that's the characteristic of the brew itself.

Aroma delivered on its promise. Rosemary, sage, very herby. A little citrus.

All the herb aromas translate to the tongue, as well as the flavor of grapefruit. Significant hops are present, but no overwhelming at all. There is an undertone of bready malt.

Mouthfeel was lively and a little fizzy/carbonated. Decent body for a crisp brew.
Drinkability was was just fine.

I'm not sure if Victory intends this to be a summer beer. But I like to think it ist. This is an exampleof what a good summer beer can be. I get tired of summer brews that just feature lots of lemon or orange. This one has real character with the herbs. It's sunny and bright, well balanced, and would work well as a seasonal brew for any season other than winter. Try it.

SIDE NOTE: I don't believe I've had the other saison du buff offerings from Stone or DFH, so I can't compare it to those (I hear those are even better). In and of itself, however, I thoroughly enjoyed this one.

jbertsch, Sep 05, 2010
Photo of Mosstrooper
4.03/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from 12oz bottle into 16oz Samuel Adams Perfect Pint glass.

Appearance: Clear golden color with a small, quickly dissipating white head that leaves no lace but leaves some foam floating.

Smell: Notes of citrus and yeast are prevalent, but the rosemary, sage, and thyme seem more subdued from what I remember in the Stone version.

Taste: Begins with a spicy peach note, finishing with yeasty bitterness and hints of the spices added to this brew.

Mouthfeel: Light body with balanced caqrbonation and a dry, refreshing finish.

Drinkability: A good beer, though this one seems more laid-back than the Stone version I've already had. Still worth it, though.

Mosstrooper, Sep 04, 2010
Photo of wahhmaster
3.95/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into a Duvel tulip.

Appearance: Pours a translucent pale golden color with lots of carbonation bubbles. Has a large, fizzy, white head that dissipates quickly and leaves spotty lacing.

Smell: Smells citrusy with hints of herbs. The herbal smell is not as strong in this version as it is in the DFH version.

Taste: Starts with a nice, hoppy bitterness up front. Develops a yeasty, citrusy flavor backed by herbal notes. Leaves a grassy, hoppy aftertaste.

Mouthfeel: Crisp and nicely carbonated but lacking some body.

Drinkability: A nice saison even it's not exactly to style. Having had the DFH version of this beer, I can say that this one tastes more restrained than the DFH version. The herbal and hop notes are not as pronounced but this is still an entirely enjoyable beer. I look forward to having the Stone version as well.

wahhmaster, Sep 04, 2010
Photo of dzni
3.93/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A - Pale golden with no head at all.
S - Grapefruit hits the nose initially, then a strong basil and general herbaceous smell.
T - Noticeable basil and citrus with hops making it balanced and refreshing.
M - Very light bodied, slight carbonation.
D - Very nice beer with some great nose and taste.

Poured into tulip glass.

dzni, Sep 04, 2010
Photo of cbutova
3.83/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A- Clear golden yellow with a fizzy white head that has low retention. A nice creamy ring remains. Tiny spots of random lace.

S- Fresh herbs up front (rosemary, thyme especially). Earthy hops. Citrus and light malt finish it off. Fades a bit.

T- Once again fresh herbs, lots of rosemary. Citrus and earthy hops integrate fairly well. A ton of spice but it is nice, and what they meant to do I am assuming. Some light biscuity malt and other typical Saison flavors.

MF- Light body with moderate smooth carbonation. More on the watery side but it doesn't bother me in this style, slightly creamy. Bitterness is pretty low.

DB- A ton of herb flavor, I would say that one is enough but it really is fresh tasting. I like the integration of the spice into a saison. Worth a shot for sure, I think food enthusiasts would love this one.

cbutova, Sep 03, 2010
Photo of Xul
3.95/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours an effervescent and translucent goldenrod, capped by a finger of white head that quickly settles down to a thin layer. It holds fairly steady there, but not an impressive head for a saison.

S: Citrus up front with grapefruit and tangerine, along with strong spices - sage, rosemary, and peppery notes. Some green apple and lemon zest in the background. The hops are better restrained than the version brewed at Stone.

T: Spices and herbs are prevalent up front with the sage and rosemary taking on a strong role and the peppery side being dialed back. Some earthy hops come in mid-palate before a big burst of fruit arrives with orange, peaches, apples, and pears. Long finish of herbs and light fruits.

M: Medium bodied with moderate carbonation, body feels good with just enough carbonation to hold it up.

D: The spices are a bit strong, not a difficult drinker but not the most refreshing saison I've had.

Xul, Sep 03, 2010
Photo of Duhast500
4.1/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz. bottle into a pint glass.

The color is a clear yellowish/orange with some slight white head and some slight lacing.

The smell is a strong spicy, earth flavor that must be coming from the sage and some nice funky yeast flavor.

The taste is hoppy with more green flavor. There is a nice herb feel that is mixed with a nice hoppy flavor that spins on the tongue. Some citrus flavor brings it all in for a wonderful rounded beer.

The feel of this beer is light but has a nice smooth flavor that goes down with some presence. The flavor of the nose and the flavor in the taste come together to give a great earthy tone. This speaks summer and is really placed well in this season.

Duhast500, Sep 02, 2010
Photo of xnicknj
3.98/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

bottle poured into tulip glass

A - Clear golden yellow with a minimal head which quickly fades to a light film with little retention or lacing.

S - Yeasty, funky, and herbal with a touch of spice.

T - Starts off bitter with a little funkyness. Assorted spices and herbs swirl around the palate before a slight touch of sweetness kicks in. There's also a small hint of banana and fruit in the brief sweet tastes. Wraps up dry without lingering too long.

M - Bubbly and dry with a somewhat light body. Definitely didnt go overboard with the carbonation.

D - Goes down pretty smooth, while remaining relatively drinkable for the style.

Definitely a nice take on the saison style with a heavy helping of herbs and spice. I plan on trying all three versions at once to search for any variations.

xnicknj, Sep 01, 2010
Photo of mfunk9786
4.33/5  rDev +13.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Having had this from each of the three breweries, I must say that Victory's incarnation stood out as the best of the three. Below, I'll explain my reasoning.

A: Frankly, it sort of looks like a macro lager in the glass. Yellow, well filtered, with a snow white head. Certainly doesn't beckon one from across the room, but this one is all about the flavor.

S: Fresh herbs, lemon, and yeasty spiciness on the nose. Definately immediately apparent that this will go very well with seafood or pasta with red sauce.

T: In the Victory incarnation, even moreso than the other two, the herbs are the star. Sage is particularly present. The herbal flavor is never medicinal, and I'm sure if it were done incorrectly, it could have easily veered off into cough drop territory, but fortunately it's very lovely.

M: Not super-carbonated, more like champagne on the tongue than anything (a lightly fizzy lightly syrupy mouthfeel). Oh so pleasant.

D: The herbal element assures that this is no partytime session beer, but it pairs so well with acidic Italian dishes and/or lemon pepper seafood dishes that it earns points based solely on that.

A great collaboration, looking forward to seeing if these three monsters of brewing come up with another winner somewhere down the line.

mfunk9786, Aug 31, 2010
Photo of Halcyondays
4.43/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 3 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle, I loved Stone's version, let's try the Victory version,

A: Pours yellow with a mild white head, good retention, no real lace.

S: How can you not love this nose? As with the Stone, beautiful sage notes, forest, meadow, glorious. Almost seems to be a hint of heather in there, intoxicating.

T: Sage is immediate and full. A tad sweeter than I remember with Stone, tastes a lot like a tripel with the malt. Dries out and a really herbaceous parsley, grass like flavour comes out. Distinct 3 sections to this ale.

M: Nice full body, very smooth, but still has a crisp lightness.

D: This is a very similar of course to Stone's version, but there are slight differences, has a hint of that Victory house character. I'd love to taste them side by side, just a great recipe, hopefully Dogfish Head's version will make it around town.

Halcyondays, Aug 29, 2010
Photo of Augustiner719
3.4/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a stemless wine glass:

Pours a very very clear yellow orange color. Very minimal head despite this style. Very dissapointing. The crystal clear body also is throwing me off a bit. Aroma is there, just not with the focus of the other two (stone and dogfish). I get some sweet basil and sage on the nose. sugary esters make it inviting. The taste is not really saison like as its pretty flat overall. Has a citrus spike, but the balance and integration of the herbal notes and acidity falls short to me. There is some herb oil that sticks on the palate. Mouthfeel is not typical of other saisons. There is a flat, macro like feeling on the palate that really is not appealing. This is where there is a big distinction between bottle fermented belgian saisons and american attempts. Few american brewers (ommegang and allagash) are able to capture that belgian essence in these styles but this one falls short. The drinkability is just above average because its easy to drink and really has a freshness to it that works in the summer. worth a shot, but a bad finale to the trifecta of the great american brewers collaboration.

Augustiner719, Aug 28, 2010
Saison Du BUFF from Victory Brewing Company
87 out of 100 based on 552 ratings.