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Otto Ale - Victory Brewing Company

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300 Ratings
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Ratings: 300
Reviews: 136
rAvg: 3.58
pDev: 16.76%
Wants: 5
Gots: 27 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Victory Brewing Company visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
Smoked Beer |  8.10% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: BeerLover99 on 10-12-2011)
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Photo of Sammy
3.81/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A very drinkable smoked beer, with complexity. I think having for 1.5 years helped (note on bottle said 5 year shelf life). Smokey grey colour to it. Moderate smoke aroma. Smooth mouthfeel.Nutty, nicely crafted. Lasting small head on reddish hued body.

Sammy, Mar 10, 2013
Photo of t0rin0
3.5/5  rDev -2.2%

t0rin0, Mar 05, 2013
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4/5  rDev +11.7%

djrn2, Nov 26, 2011
Photo of zestar
3.25/5  rDev -9.2%

zestar, Aug 13, 2014
Photo of nmann08
2/5  rDev -44.1%

nmann08, Mar 12, 2012
Photo of metter98
3.73/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer is hazy amber in color. It poured with a half finger high beige head that died down but left a thin layer of bubbles covering the surface.
S: There are light to moderate aromas of smoke in the nose.
T: Similar to the smell, the taste is smoky and has some hints of spices. The flavors you would expect from a dubbel are not very apparent.
M: It feels medium-bodied on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: The beer is relatively easy to drink because the smoky flavors aren’t too strong and the alcohol is well hidden from the taste.

metter98, Oct 31, 2011
Photo of brentk56
3.55/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a clear mahogany with a very modest head that fades to a ringlet and archipelago; leaves some splashy lace behind, however

Smell: Caramel, fig, banana and ash

Taste: Opens with the dubbel elements of caramel, fig and pepper, with the banana adding another dimension by mid-palate; the smoked character arrives, after the swallow, and leaves a subtle ashen flavor behind in the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium body with buoyant carbonation

Overall: While the beer is well-balanced, I am not sure that it shows off the best of either style; not something I would seek out again

brentk56, Nov 07, 2011
Photo of kjkinsey
4/5  rDev +11.7%

kjkinsey, Dec 12, 2011
Photo of ygtbsm94
3.25/5  rDev -9.2%

ygtbsm94, Mar 13, 2012
Photo of GRG1313
4/5  rDev +11.7%

GRG1313, Jan 30, 2012
Photo of kylehay2004
3.95/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: half finger head on a relatively clear amber brown body. not a lot of lacing.

S: smoked meat, caramel, hint of toffee and burnt toast.

T: more smoked meat, sweet BBQ sauce, caramel malts and brown sugar.

M: moderate to high carbonation and medium body.

Overall: this is plain and simply a drinkable smoked beer. The smokiness doesn't overwhelm and definitely compliments the base beer.

kylehay2004, Nov 08, 2012
Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.28/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

750ml bottle - $7.99 at Olde Crabapple Bottle Shoppe in Alpharetta, Georgia. Bottle On: Sept 27, 2011.

Appearance: Pours a clear, bright mahogany-hued body with a full-sized, faintly beige head.

Smell: Displays a myriad of jumbled notes: campfire smoke, cloves, toasted bread, brown sugar, dried fruits (raisins and cherries), bananas, and a recently bandaged finger cut.

Taste: Toasted malts with some sweet additions of caramel, treacle before the phenolic hit of smoke-flavored chewing gum with a touch of banana peel before rolling into some thick-cut bacon, powdered cloves, and Concord grape jelly. Strays, for the most part, on the sweet side of things. Low hop character, bitterness. Some alcohol detected on the lightly smokey, fruity finish with lingering alcoholic heat and clove.

Mouthfeel: Medium-plus body. Medium-high carbonation.

Overall: A curious combination (I recall tapping my chin thoughtfully for a moment when I first heard about it), a smoked ale and a Belgian dubbel. I'm not entirely sure that the smoked malt is playing nicely with the clove-producing yeast strain utilized, as there is, sadly, a displeasing hint of Band-Aid on occasion.

ChainGangGuy, Nov 03, 2011
Photo of Knapp85
3.58/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I never saw this beer as being a Dubbel, I was pretty sure it was supposed to be a Rauchbier. Anyway, the beer poured out as a deep brown color with some nice red highlights in it. The head was foamy and laced the glass pretty well. The smell of the beer gives off plenty of smoked malt aromas along with some lager yeast notes as well. The mouthfeel was prettygood, I found it to be well balanced and easy to drink. Overall I thought that this beer got a little better as it warmed up. I'm not the biggest fan of this style but I like what victory did with this one. I can't say I'd buy it again but it was nice to try.

Knapp85, Nov 15, 2011
Photo of TMoney2591
3.63/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Served in a Duvel tulip glass.

Thanks to Hophead101 for this bottle!

I knew I had to have this when I heard it's description a few months ago. Here's hopin' it lives up to my expectations: It pours a hazy sunset amber-brown topped by a finger of bleached cream-tan foam. The nose comprises light toffee, light figs, very light raisins, and plenty of beech smoke, which at times approaches a Band-Aid sort o' quality. The taste continues the smoke-centric theme, with the beech halfway morphing into cherrywood. Beneath this haze, some dry chocolate powder and raisins try to bubble up, but never really make it very far. The smoke is the star, and everyone is made keenly aware of that fact. The body is a light-ish medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a fairly dry finish. Overall, for a dubbel, this thing doesn't get too far with me. As a smoked beer, it's pretty good, but thoroughly one-dimensional. I mean, I love the smoke as much as the next guy, but I always like to have something behind it as a sidekick kind o' compliment. That really doesn't happen here, which is the biggest disappointment. Still, it's a pretty tasty smoked beer, just not one of the elite ones by any stretch.

TMoney2591, Nov 03, 2011
Photo of NeroFiddled
3.78/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Victory Otto Ale
25.4 fl. oz bottle, corked & caged.
Bottled on date appears to be SEPT 28 2011
$8.49 @ State Line Liquors, Elkton, MD

Otto is an interesting beer, I'll give it that. Combining a Belgian-style dubbel ale with German smoked malt should yield great results...

Unfortunately, I feel that it leaves an undefined beer. It's very smokey, and at first taste I thought it more a rauchbier than a dubbel. And yet the Belgian character was there all along behind the smoke. Odd. I smell the smoke, and then I taste it upfront and I yearn for the maltiness behind it in a rauchbier, but what I find is malt that's peppered with yeasty clove and spice.

So, OK, let me go the other way. I'm going to taste it with a Belgian-style dubbel in mind, and it certainly looks like one so that helps. I get the smoke in the nose, and there's some Belgian character as well. They never quite come together, and in fact they kind of fight each other. That then follows in the flavor. I will say that as it warms the malt widens and the smoke isn't as prominent, but at the same time, the smoke does still linger at the back of the mouth.

Or perhaps I'm completely wrong. Perhaps I just can't see the forest for the trees because I'm so familiar with each of the two styles, and that someone new to all of this would find it amazing.

NeroFiddled, Jan 05, 2012
Photo of WVbeergeek
4.13/5  rDev +15.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance is a glowing deep ruby brown when held toward the light, almost a glowing crimson color with a nice full beige head, creamy texture with more than ample chunks of lacing down the sides of my nonic pint.

Aroma has a nice smoked malt character going on very timid compared to some of the beers out of Bamberg that the label talks about. This is a blend of a Belgian style dubbel with a rauchbier inspired by their trips to Orval brewery and the city of Bamberg. Interesting marriage of two distinct styles. Minimal dark fruits, hints of roasted malts, distinct nutty character, and toasted bread.

Flavor has a tame sweetness with distinct waves of smoked malts, not much in the way of smoked meats, but it interweaves with the dark fruits/raisins/red apple from the dark malts and Belgian yeast phenols. Finishes very dry with a bitter smoked finish, pretty interesting beer being a hybrid, from one of my favorite breweries. Alcohol is well hidden, maybe it's the smoked malts but there's no off putting booze in the flavor.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied ample carbonation doesn't seem overdone, bitter smoked flavors really dry the palate off, quite the interesting beer.

Overall this beer sets out to be a dubbel/rauchbier the smoke comes through but it's hard to identify a Belgian dubbel as the base beer. It isn't the smokiest rauchbier, and it lacks the heavy fruit and yeast phenols that a typical dubbel has landing somewhere in the middle, I think it's definitely a nice hybrid beer.

WVbeergeek, Dec 20, 2011
Photo of nickfl
4.48/5  rDev +25.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A - Pours with half a finger of off white foam on top of a clear, dark brown body with good head retention and excellent lace,

S - smoke, leather, sandalwood, and dark bread.

T - Peaty smoke up front with lots of dark bread and a bit of brown sugar. Some spicy notes of leather and pipe tobacco in the middle with a finish of brown sugar, toffee, peat, and leather.

M - Medium thick body, moderate carbonation, and a balanced finish.

D - Quite nice, it is robustly smoky, even including notes of peat, but it is done with the practiced touch that I am used to finding only in Schlenkerla smoked beers. Very well done, I can't overstate how much I respect victory for actually being willing to make beers like this.

nickfl, Nov 08, 2012
Photo of Kegatron
3.88/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750 ml corked and caged bottle into a couple of tulip glasses.

Pours a deep clear amber, with a finger of foamy off-white head. This retains with a smooth richness and robust edging, leaving back a soapy looking cascade that drips down the sides of the glass into a smattering of light spotty lace. The aroma honestly feels very similar to a Rauchbier, with a smoky campfire character that is full smelling throughout the whole nose. You can barely pick up some softer fruit and a touch of sweeter sugars underneath but yeah, the smoke pretty much dominates this here.

The taste fairs better, with much more of that Belgian-style Dubbel presence to it, with notes of fruit and doughy sugars having a place here. This definitely has a touch of aggressiveness to it though, which is maybe coming from a combination of lightly roasted accents and spice from the yeast. The smoke is much more subdued and complimentary here than it was in the nose and just hangs on the breath a bit after each sip. The finish is fairly dry with a touch of lingering spice and earthy bitterness. The mouthfeel is medium bodied, maybe a little fuller, with a firm and prickly feel up front that then gets a bit more creamy feeling along the back as this works itself around in the mouth. That 8% ABV is well hid.

Despite maybe the over smokiness of the aroma, I think that this came out about as good as you would expect for what they were attempting here. Some Belgian character is present but the complete package just came off to me as very German feeling, with tightness to the profiles and the overall Rauchbier-style slant to this. This was unique and I quite liked it.

Kegatron, Nov 30, 2011
Photo of russpowell
3.35/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottled on 09-28-11

Pours auburn with 2+ fingers of khaki colored head. Minimal head retention & lacing

S: Faint smokeyness, some brown bread

T: Oaky smoke with, bready sweetness, a touch of pears & wppdy hops up front. Big time oaky dryness as this warms along with beech & oak smokeyness & a booze warmth. Some herbal hoppyness in the finish along with much woody/oaky dryness & firm smokeyness

MF: Medium bodied with soft cabonation, thins out a touch as this warms

Not a bad smoked beer, but not as good as I was hoping for, the oaky character of this is a bit overwhelming. I like most victory beers, this was a letdown

russpowell, Jan 07, 2012
Photo of StonedTrippin
4.03/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

unique and delicious, rauchbier meets belgian dubbel. pours a major sexy deep amber hue, dark like cabernet, jovial tan head which fades away quickly. nose is overly smokey, with just a tiny hint that theres a belgian underneath. alchohol notes, bonfire, and wood. taste is a bit more level, with some vanilla and bright yeast happening. mouthfeel is bubble and true to the dubbel style. this is a one of a kind for sure, and whether you like it or not, its a brand new creation, so lots of extra points for creativity. met my expectations and it is a great buzz. woooo

StonedTrippin, Nov 09, 2011
Photo of drabmuh
3.78/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer is classified as a dubbel but be warned rather than surprised like I was, this is a rauch bier, it may be dubbel in some way but to me, this was a straight up rauch.

Beer is brown and mostly clear with a thin tan head of small bubbles, some lacing, looks good.

Aroma is mild, semi-sweet, a little yeast and a little smoke, I'm already confused at this point.

Beer is decent, medium bodied, interesting palate, but the back half is all smoke all the time, the levels of smoke are not overwhelming but it is dominant for sure. A decent little rauch, I'll have to research why this is called a dubbel. Is this is Belgian yeast strain? Anyway, a decent little smokey dubbel. I guess.

drabmuh, Nov 13, 2011
Photo of mactrail
3.58/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A Dubbel with plenty of malt to mellow the smoky flavor. Quite attractive in the little snifter, it even looks a smoky orange. Plenty smoked but not at all harsh. Sweet malt and some roasted flavors. Rather sharp. A little ash in the nose along with the hot oak smell. Hoppy bitterness in the aftertaste. I'm not tasting much in the way of Belgian flavors, but it's a nice concept if they'd try more yeast and less smoke.

I have to admit this is a pretty good smoked beer, though it's not exactly subtle. At least it tastes like real smoke and you could almost put your finger on what kind of wood it is. More enjoyable if you have the bottle around for small doses. A big cheesy pizza, tho, might stand up to it.

mactrail, Jan 10, 2012
Photo of Mora2000
3.58/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The beer pours a medium amber color with a white head. The aroma has a little bit of toffee, but there is also some nice smoked malt notes. The flavor is quite a bit stronger than the aroma, with a lot of heavy smoke and some charred malt and ash notes. Definitely all about the smoke. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation.

Mora2000, Apr 28, 2012
Photo of MarkyMOD
4/5  rDev +11.7%

MarkyMOD, Nov 27, 2012
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3.25/5  rDev -9.2%

XmnwildX12, Dec 13, 2013
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Otto Ale from Victory Brewing Company
81 out of 100 based on 300 ratings.