Otto Ale - Victory Brewing Company

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Ratings: 308
Reviews: 136
rAvg: 3.57
pDev: 16.81%
Wants: 6
Gots: 27 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Victory Brewing Company visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
Smoked Beer |  8.10% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: BeerLover99 on 10-12-2011)
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Photo of josefnewsong
3.8/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Poured a fairly clearish ruddy brown color with a bit of head that left a creamy/swirly layer on top. Smelled slightly smoky with belgian yeast behind...tastes very unique. great smoky flavor mixed with standard belgian dubbel flavors, not overwhelming and very drinkable...unfortunately I found myself wanting something a little more substantial from this beer...it could benefit from a bit more body. Overall it's a great brew and definitely gets bonus points for creativity but I can picture this type of beer being done a little better...still, yum.

Photo of StonedTrippin
4.03/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

unique and delicious, rauchbier meets belgian dubbel. pours a major sexy deep amber hue, dark like cabernet, jovial tan head which fades away quickly. nose is overly smokey, with just a tiny hint that theres a belgian underneath. alchohol notes, bonfire, and wood. taste is a bit more level, with some vanilla and bright yeast happening. mouthfeel is bubble and true to the dubbel style. this is a one of a kind for sure, and whether you like it or not, its a brand new creation, so lots of extra points for creativity. met my expectations and it is a great buzz. woooo

Photo of larryi86
4/5  rDev +12%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750 mL bottle dated 9/28/2011 poured into a snifter

A- A deep clear red with a two finger off-white head.

S- Smokey, camp fire like, caramel malts, touch of dark fruits.

T- Dark fruits and malts up front and nice smokey finish, grows on you as you drink it.

M- Medium body, creamy.

O- This is a nice beer that is easy to drink. The 8.1% ABV is not noticeable at all. At $10 a 750 I think I will buy two or three more to share with family over the holidays.

Photo of Bung
4/5  rDev +12%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750ml. Dark amber pour, ring of off white bubbles.

Aroma, malty, fig/prune with some smoke. Lends to darker grain aroma than normal for the style this is listed under. Strange, but I find it interesting.

Taste, a smoked belgian. Toffee, light brown sugar. Large and equal amounts of smoked peat/bacon and yeast. Again, an interesting combo, I thought they really worked well together. But then again, I don't enjoy Dubbels that much.

Lighter side of mid, good carbonation. Drinks well, for those who can enjoy the flavors.

An inbetween style brew, if judged by "style" it may not be good, if you just take it for what it is, it is well done. Of coarse, you will need to enjoy some smoked brews.

Photo of AttitudeBrew
3.6/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I wish it had more smoke. Its an OK beer needs more body. The belgian is a nice twist ,but will not seek out again.Maybe I'll buy one more and through it in the cellar and see what happens after 6 months? Check this one out. You might like it. I like more smoke than what this has to offer

Photo of bonkers
3.58/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I poured from a bomber into a snifter, dark pour with a medium tan head, light lacing. Lots of smoke, bacon, maybe some clove. To be honest this was more of a rauch beer to me. The primary flavors I picked up were smoke and bacon. IMO this was on the thin side, the body just did not hold up. The carbonation was light, it was fairly easy to drink. The combination did not work for me, the smoked malt took away all the characteristics of the dubbel.

Photo of Halcyondays
4.35/5  rDev +21.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750 mL bottle,

A: Pours a clear dark red with a low medium off-white head. Solid retention, limited lace.

S: Sweet smoke, meaty like good bacon. Good caramel type malt.

T: Has an easy going malt character that accepts the smoke like they were old friends. Superbly balanced, the two flavours play off each other so well.

M: I think the Trappist yeast really helped to mellow out the beer and calm the carbonation. Never cloying which is great in an American dubbel. Soft easy going carbonation character, frothy at times with a prolonged but seamless aftertaste.

O: This is right up my alley. Everything works together to make a great beer. Want some BBQ right now.

Photo of gford217
3.38/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750ml cork and caged bottle.

Pours a deep clear brownish amber with a small beige head that reedes quickly to a thin collar.

Aroma is more smokey than dubbel with the smoked malts featuring prominently. There a some sweet caramel malts, candi sugar and faint dark fruits.

Taste has a big astringent band-aid flavor up front. It's not the smoke character that I was expecting, less smoked wood and more burnt ashes. There is a sweetness in the background that lingers a bit in the finish with some figs and raisins.

Mouthfeel is astringent and artificially smokey.

I was looking forward to this one as a smoked beer fan but I think the flavor misses the mark slightly for me. The smoke is of the unpleasant burnt rubber variety. Not my favorite from Victory.

Photo of brentk56
3.55/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a clear mahogany with a very modest head that fades to a ringlet and archipelago; leaves some splashy lace behind, however

Smell: Caramel, fig, banana and ash

Taste: Opens with the dubbel elements of caramel, fig and pepper, with the banana adding another dimension by mid-palate; the smoked character arrives, after the swallow, and leaves a subtle ashen flavor behind in the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium body with buoyant carbonation

Overall: While the beer is well-balanced, I am not sure that it shows off the best of either style; not something I would seek out again

Photo of cindyjeffsmith
4.1/5  rDev +14.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

appearance: Bronze, mostly clear with steadily rising bubbles.
smell: Very nice, unique, interesting. The smoke punches through, resting on a solid Belgian spice and fruit.
taste: Doesn't quite live up to the nose but the same qualities are there.
mouthfeel: medium creamy, nice carbonation.
overall: An interesting, unique beer. Nicely done.

Photo of Gavage
4.05/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: pours a reddish brown color with a short 1/2" head. No real lacing develops.

Smell : smoke, fruits, and some caramel come through to the nose.

Taste: malty goodness here with some chocolate, plums, cherry, fig, and a load of smokey flavor. Bitterness is moderate and alcohol is lightly noticeable. Spicy yeast arrives late onthetongue.

Mouthfeel: medium bodied. Lightly crisp throughout.

Overall: an interesting mix of a dubbel and rauchbier and for me it works. Interesting and it keeps you engaged until the bomber is empty. A definite different beer from Victory that is quite tasty.

Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.28/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

750ml bottle - $7.99 at Olde Crabapple Bottle Shoppe in Alpharetta, Georgia. Bottle On: Sept 27, 2011.

Appearance: Pours a clear, bright mahogany-hued body with a full-sized, faintly beige head.

Smell: Displays a myriad of jumbled notes: campfire smoke, cloves, toasted bread, brown sugar, dried fruits (raisins and cherries), bananas, and a recently bandaged finger cut.

Taste: Toasted malts with some sweet additions of caramel, treacle before the phenolic hit of smoke-flavored chewing gum with a touch of banana peel before rolling into some thick-cut bacon, powdered cloves, and Concord grape jelly. Strays, for the most part, on the sweet side of things. Low hop character, bitterness. Some alcohol detected on the lightly smokey, fruity finish with lingering alcoholic heat and clove.

Mouthfeel: Medium-plus body. Medium-high carbonation.

Overall: A curious combination (I recall tapping my chin thoughtfully for a moment when I first heard about it), a smoked ale and a Belgian dubbel. I'm not entirely sure that the smoked malt is playing nicely with the clove-producing yeast strain utilized, as there is, sadly, a displeasing hint of Band-Aid on occasion.

Photo of TMoney2591
3.63/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Served in a Duvel tulip glass.

Thanks to Hophead101 for this bottle!

I knew I had to have this when I heard it's description a few months ago. Here's hopin' it lives up to my expectations: It pours a hazy sunset amber-brown topped by a finger of bleached cream-tan foam. The nose comprises light toffee, light figs, very light raisins, and plenty of beech smoke, which at times approaches a Band-Aid sort o' quality. The taste continues the smoke-centric theme, with the beech halfway morphing into cherrywood. Beneath this haze, some dry chocolate powder and raisins try to bubble up, but never really make it very far. The smoke is the star, and everyone is made keenly aware of that fact. The body is a light-ish medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a fairly dry finish. Overall, for a dubbel, this thing doesn't get too far with me. As a smoked beer, it's pretty good, but thoroughly one-dimensional. I mean, I love the smoke as much as the next guy, but I always like to have something behind it as a sidekick kind o' compliment. That really doesn't happen here, which is the biggest disappointment. Still, it's a pretty tasty smoked beer, just not one of the elite ones by any stretch.

Photo of metter98
3.73/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer is hazy amber in color. It poured with a half finger high beige head that died down but left a thin layer of bubbles covering the surface.
S: There are light to moderate aromas of smoke in the nose.
T: Similar to the smell, the taste is smoky and has some hints of spices. The flavors you would expect from a dubbel are not very apparent.
M: It feels medium-bodied on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: The beer is relatively easy to drink because the smoky flavors aren’t too strong and the alcohol is well hidden from the taste.

Photo of projectflam86
2.25/5  rDev -37%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

750ml poured into a tulip.

A- Pours a mahogany color with a thick slightly off white foam head that leaves great lacing.

S- Definitely picking up the smoked malts in the nose. Sort of a peat quality with a touch of spice. Not getting much of the typical dubbel aromas of dark fruits and candy sugar.

T- Deep smoky flavor initially with an oaky peat malt finish. I don't think I could tell that the base beer is a dubbel. Maybe a touch of sweetness in the finish but very faint and hard to notice anything other than the meaty smoked flavor. Much more like a rauchbier (which admittedly is not a favorite style of mine).

M- Wildly over carbonated with a thin mouthfeel. Sudsy with a lingering smoked aftertaste.

O- This one wasn't for me. I thought a dubbel brewed with a touch of smoked malt sounded good but this was way over done (at least to me). The bottle says it can cellar for 5 years. Maybe by that time the smoke would have died down some.

Photo of JayS2629
3.33/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a murky brown with a nice tan head that fades fast and fizzy but leaves ok lacing.

The aroma has faint woody smoke, cherries and plums and some dark chocolate and earthy elements. Some musty notes.

The flavor is dried by the smoke and cuts off the sweet cherry wanting to come through. Chocolate notes fade in, but overall this dries in the mouth fast.

This gets a little more complex as it warms, but is still missing the impressive mark.

Dry finish, medium body, alcohol hidden.

Overall, Its just ok.

Photo of Mebuzzard
3.13/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Well, a smoked dubbel...I guess.

Pours a dull amber, a bit faded in color. Head is nice, big and sticky. Pretty good lacing, but looks neither like a rauchbier nor dubbel

Slight smoke and plum in the aroma. Slight spice. Muddled, nothing stands out. Damp smoke...

puny raisin flavor opens up the tasting front. Smoke comes in and just mingles around. Some faint fruits and spice. The taste isn't bad, it's just that there is nothing much here. Not much that screams 'dubbel' and too fruity to be rauchbier. I dunno...

It drank ok, but was a bit hollow and thin on the end.

Photo of NEhophead
3.75/5  rDev +5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

25.4 fl oz brown bottle, caged & corked, served in a goblet.

'Bottled on date' is illegible.

Burnt tea color beneath a carbonation filled, off white head that fades to a broken sheet within a moment. Faint condensed lacing with not much strength.

Moderately pronounced peat smoked aroma over a semi-sweet Belgian candied sugar. Notes of fresh plum, grape, and fig.

The peat smoked 'rauch' aspect is the primary flavor in this Dubbel; however, it is a bit darker than in your typical Rauchbier. The underlying sweetness keeps the smoke at bay, but I'm not sure if the sweet, dark fruit balance with the spicy flavor from the smokiness. The finish is dry with a touch of must followed by an aftertaste filled with malty smoke.

A shade under full bodied. A bit slick in spots, but predominantly dry on the palate.

A 'Smoked Dubbel'...it's an interesting concept and the more I drink, the more I appreciate the experimentation. Not the most polished offering, but a creative attempt.

Photo of avalon07
4/5  rDev +12%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Poured from a bottle to a goblet. Had a brownish color and a cloudy texture. There was a small amount of foamy head that quickly dissipated. Not much lacing either.

S: An interesting (for a dubbel) aroma, with a big shot of smoke, along with yeast, fruit, and malt.

T: Tasted of yeast, malt, dark fruit (plums) and heavy shot of smoke. Basically this beer tastes like a dubbel crossed with a rauchbier. It's an interesting experiment, but wouldn't be my first choice at a bar.

M: A good amount of carbonation with a mostly dry, clean finish. Medium-bodied.

O: As I said before, this is an interesting experiment. It's not bad, but it's certainly an acquired taste.

Photo of ToddT
3.48/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A- Clear dark amber topped with a well formed off white head. Head falls slowly and leaves lots of lace on the glass.

S- Smokey peat moss and fruit, almost an apple cider undertone to this.

T- Smoke and a light wood char are the dominate first notes and they carry on to the finish. A sweet fruit note,pear and a hint of grape makes an appearance at the middle but they are soon overwhelmed by the smoke. The finish is a blend of smoke and some slightly sour Belgian funk, balanced but in somewhat of a stark contrast to each other.

M- A little less that medium, almost light in body and well carbonated, very lively at first.

O- Interesting beer and concept, the 8.1% ABV is well hidden but the smoke is just a bit out of balance. I’m not a huge fan of smoked beers but the smoke it this is just a little too forward. If the smoke was used more as an undertone and as a complement to the taste of a dubble this would have been much more effective.

Photo of BeerImmediately
3.43/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Bottle into Chimay goblet in the high 40's.

Pours with a healty tan head over a clear, ruby-to-garnet colored body with some carbonation flowing up. Head stays on as a perma-film. Really nice lacing.

Aromas are pretty light. Slight cherry candy sweetness (Nibs), touch of smoke, caramel malt, and a strange plastic - more of a new diaper than band aid.

Flavors bring it up a notch. Smoke becomes more prevalent, but doesn't kill the Dubbel qualities. Some dark fruit (red grape), tangy hops, angostura bitters, and charred brisket.

Mouthfeel is a little thin for my liking, with a decent level of carbonation.

I always appreciate fresh takes on old styles, and this one is a good idea, but I would have loved some more sweetness, more Belgian yeast quality, and a little richer quality on the palate.

Photo of Kromes
3.33/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Poured into a Chimay glass. A clear dark amber color with a thick off-white head. Good lacing on glass.

S: A rather strange aroma. For me, the mix of smoked malts and sweet dark fruit ended up smelling sort of like a band-aid or like medicine.

T: Thankfully the flavor has a little bit more depth. The smokiness from the malt hits right up front and mixes with a tropical fruit and raisin flavor. There is a pronounced alcohol flavor and feel throughout. The smokiness doesn't let up.

M: A little thin in the body and high carbonation, but leaves the mouth a little too dry.

O: Neat concept, but for me it didn't pan out to a very drinkable beer. One and done is good enough for me. Worth a try though.

Photo of kiddynamite920
3.13/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A: Dark red, close to brown with a white foamy head. Head looks a bit sticky and is leaving some lacing on its way down.

S: The smoked malt is strong, unfortunately any dubbel character or trappist yeast character is lost behind it. Victory mentions the use of smoked malt and a Belgian dubbel and why it hasn't been done before. I suppose this is why. All characters of the Belgian yeast are in the background, as this smells mostly of smoked malts.

T: Smokey and savory, very small dubbel flavor. Was hoping this would be a nice balance between dark fruits and some smokieness, but again...the smoked malts take over. There is some fruitiness that struggles to shine through, no sign of a trappist yeast on the palate. Would guess this was a smoked porter if I were blindfolded.

M: Mouthfeel is thin, falls a bit flat. Carbonation is crisp at first, but this really just is average.

O: A Victory beer that I dont like!?? What is going on here? Think they over thought this one a bit, a good idea that didn't turn out that well. Can't blame them for trying though. Interesting beer.

Photo of jfstilling
3.95/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a light mahogany and has a foamy off-white head that lasts. It has a strong smokey smell. I've only tried one rauchbier before, but I absolutely love the taste/smell of the smokiness in this beer. On the other hand, this smokey flavor overwhelms the dubbel style of this ale. Either way, it's a great beer for a cold, snowy evening.

Photo of Beaver13
3.25/5  rDev -9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

750ml bottle. Pours a clear reddish amber with a big frothy off white head that retains fairly well and laces the glass.

The aroma is strong smoke - some meaty peat, with a little belgian yeast.

The flavor is a little sweet malt followed by a big spicy smokiness (liquid smoke). There's a little belgian yeast and a lot of bitterness in the finish. The mouthfeel is medium to full bodied with sharp carbonation.

Overall, strong smoke, but not quite what I had hoped for. The smoke and dubbel aspects don't quite blend well to me.

Otto Ale from Victory Brewing Company
81 out of 100 based on 308 ratings.