Swing Session Saison - Victory Brewing Company

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Ratings: 758
Reviews: 148
rAvg: 3.54
pDev: 14.12%
Wants: 13
Gots: 68 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Victory Brewing Company visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  4.50% ABV

Availability: Spring

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Tucquan on 02-26-2013

Seasonal release beer brewed w/ German & American whole-flowers, 2-row German malts, Rye, Oats & Wheat. Spiced w/ peppercorn & fresh lemon zest. Belgian saison yeasts.
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Photo of Beans11
1.05/5  rDev -70.3%
look: 1.75 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

A: Clear and watery

S: The worst smelling beer I have ever smelt. It smelt of oil and plastic, I literally could not believe what I was smelling.

T: The taste followed the smell and I felt as though I had just drank melted plastic with oil. As the beer warmed up there was a definite increase in the peppercorn taste.

M: Thin and watery.

O: I can safely say this was the worst beer I've ever had. I'm not sure if this was a skunk batch or what, but I could not believe Victory would release a beer like that.

Photo of jtierney89
2/5  rDev -43.5%
look: 2 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

semi-hazed golden color with a big fluffy bright white head. Nose is incredibly funky. Lots of strange belgian notes. As it open it starts to smell a bit better with some banana notes. Bit of must and funk.

The first sip was really offensive but it got better, maybe my tongue just needed to adjust. Light sparkly body musty belgian funk, banana notes spicy finish. Prickly with barnyard flavors. Not as refreshing as they planned i think a definitely a musty tasting beer. Also for being something sessionable it is incredibly filling. Also it starts to get a bit soapy as you go on drinking it on the back end. Also now picking up some buttered toasted biscuit flavors. Drinkable once you get acquainted with a soft sweetness, mild bitterness and possibly too much spice. Wouldn't recommend it or suggest it.

Photo of kojevergas
2.44/5  rDev -31.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 2.5

Picked this one up because Victory is really growing on me. Acquired at a bottle shop in the L.A. area. 4.5% ABV confirmed. Self-described on the label as a "Session Saison." I will review it as such. "Ale brewed with spices." 12 fl oz brown glass bottle with straightforward label art and branded blue pressure cap served into a conical Samuel Smith's pint glass in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are fairly high.

Served cold, straight from the fridge. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a modest two finger head of white colour. Slight cream is noticeable. Thickness is generally good. Pretty decent (~4 minute) retention - though the low ABV makes this relatively easy to accomplish. No lacing as the head recedes. Body colour is a somewhat dull pale yellow redolent of unwashed straw. Not a clean or crisp looking beer. The clarity surprises me given the style; this is transparent and translucent as can be. Clearly filtered and not at all typical of a good saison. I'm on high alert looking at it; things are not as they should be.

Sm: Definite citrus - primarily in the form of lemon; it's not that juicy or gushing but it's fairly pleasant. Straw, a light lactic touch, and lemongrass. Pale malts. Light buried orange. More typical of a witbier than a saison, to be honest. I do get some spices but my broken nose is terrible at identifying them; cilantro perhaps? Clove? It's a grainy aroma, but it isn't refreshing and clean. Above average in strength. The lactic character is a highlight, but I'm not sure it belongs here.

T/Mf: Hmph. Light lactic character alongside a dazzingly thin, boring, and bland foundation comprised of generic pale malts, straw, and a bit of lemongrass. The entire second act comes off empty and weak. Lacks sufficient body. Awkwardly thick up front and on the finish yet borderline watery and thin in the middle. Too wet. Smoothness is also weird. Bizarrely constructed. Luckily, the flavour does pick up on the climax with a surge of lemon citrus zest - but it lacks the refreshing punch it should have. Hopping is minimal, generic, and floral. No yeast character or alcohol comes through. Light spices; I'd guess cilantro, clove, and perhaps even ginger and garlic/onion. One of the only positive features of the mouthfeel is its crispness, which really sells this as a spring beer. Badly balanced - both structurally and in terms of flavours. Bizarrely off-style. I'm not a big fan of this.

Dr: Drinkable but unremarkable, and one of the most underwhelming "saisons" I've had this year. Even the Blue Moon saison was closer to the style than this. A severe disappointment from Victory. I'm glad I only bought one bottle; I wouldn't want to have this again. I definitely wouldn't recommend this to friends. Pass on this one if you come across it. None of the complexity, subtlety, or balance of an artful saison is in any way present here.

D+

Photo of Uniobrew31
2.49/5  rDev -29.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 2.25 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.75

Not my cupo tea. It was overly floral and perfume like. Way to much in the way of herbs and flowers

Photo of Honisbygonis
2.68/5  rDev -24.3%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.75

Color / Carb = like a very pale Easter egg yellow dye, with moderate foam

Smell = muted fruity / hops

Taste = hits you initially, then lingers (too much) in a bad way (again, not a hop lover); light with dry aftertaste; 1.5 rungs above your standard domestic lager with some added fruit/floral flavor. Refreshing ? Enough, or moreso, barely.

Just noticed the laundry list that Victory now puts out, and my hopes now rest on the Victory Altbier offering that I saw advertised with Sierra Nevada Beer Camp tour / 12 pack coming July-2014.

Photo of TMoney2591
2.76/5  rDev -22%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 2.5

Served in a Lagunitas mason jar.

I'd make a Swing Kids reference, but no one saw that movie (and I don't fully remember it, myself). Anyway, this stuff pours a partly cloudy straw topped by a finger of white foam. The nose comprises lemon peel, coriander, sweet flowers, and light funky wheat. That lemon is rather strong, but luckily not artificial. The taste holds notes of old and musty lemon (both zest and rind) and a mild blend of vague spices, which are nearly out-shouted by the lemon. The body is a light medium, with a moderate carbonation and a drying finish. Overall, this saison just didn't work. I'm assuming a lackluster yeast performance, but it was just a never-ending blast of bad citrus with occasional bits of muddled spices. Definitely not for me.

Photo of brutusmuktuk
2.78/5  rDev -21.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.25

Has a golden yellow color with a very healthy white foam. Smell is lemon, but the taste is a little weak. There’s a hint of lemon and some light spices in the finish. Otherwise the beer is a little bland. Has a nice carbonated feel, but overall is just okay.

Photo of ThisWangsChung
2.78/5  rDev -21.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.75

12 oz bottle into a pint glass.

A: Pours a mildly hazed straw color. The head is a fluffy two finger white shade that collapses pretty quickly, but leaves nice lacing on the glass.

S: There is a decent amount of complexity here for a 4.5% saison. I pick up coriander, orange peel, grassy hops, sage, and black pepper. However, there's also a vegetal green pepper note that's detracting - and even worse, it gets stronger as it warms up.

T: This is weird. It opens up fairly citrusy - which I like - but ends on both a watery and a vegetal note. Decent (if overdone) spicing in the middle gives way to a bell pepper finish that really rubs me the wrong way. The flavor profile sorely lacks balance and cohesion.

M: Very clean and dry, which I like. Very astringent too, which I don't. This beer seemingly parches the palate excessively in the name of drinkability. Ah well, the latter is good, at least.

O: Swing...and a miss. This one was quite disappointing, considering Victory makes another saison that's really damn good. And it's another damning reminder that they really need to put Helios in 6-packs!

Photo of Copernicandream
2.81/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Bottle poured into a tulip.

A: Dark golden hue, with one finger of thin head dissipating very quickly.

S: Relatively strong hues of citrus, lemon predominates but some orange or grapefruit as well.

T: An early citrus punch, lemon and orange. Overpowering white pepper that fades into the classical Belgian funk finish of a saison. Minimal but detectable hop finish - a strange bitterness added to the fruit and peppercorn.

M: Medium thickness, somewhat thick for the style, somewhat reminiscent of biting into a pear (that gritty fullmouth feel). The fine carbonation helps release the citrus zest and fades early for a gentle hoppy finish.

O: Saisons are not exactly my go to style, but this one in particular was not a stunner. The white pepper and clove really conflict with the crisp citrus and Belgian yeast. I'm glad I didn't get a whole 6 pack.

Photo of KBomb
2.9/5  rDev -18.1%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

Light golden color has almost a green tint to it. Nice nebulous lacing, but the color is as pale as you'd expect from the description of this "session" beer.

Smells strongly of grassy hops and phenols, some medicinal aromas as well. Something almost like anise; which returns in the aftertaste in something a bit like Chinese 5-spice powder. The smell straddles a line between funky and skunky; at moments its delectable, others its not.

And here we reach a problem. The aftertaste is so strong of black pepper and lemongrass, I really can't describe the flavor of the malt and grains at all. Their lightness is so overshadowed by the additions they become completely non-descript.

Mouthfeel is incredibly crisp and dry; certainly what I expect the brewers are going for.

Session Saison gets points for bravery in its bold additions of ingredients, but in its execution its resulted in flavors much out of balance.

Photo of guityler83
3/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A: A bright white head 3 fingers tall formed in the glass and receeded quicly leaving behind spider web like lacing on the edge. The beer a light peach color, very clear until I poured the remaining dregs into the glass then a bit of sediment was introduced.

S: Spicey lemon and orange zest mixed with corriander and some citrusy hop aroma. Very low toasty aroma masked by the very purfumey spices.

T: On the first sip a burst of spices hits the pallet very very much like the aroma would lead you to expect. corriander, zest and peppery notes. After a few more sips and the pallet adjusts a moderate hop bitterness is detected, possibly being emphasised by the spices and the dry finish of this beer. Noble type hop flavor is low in the finish. Very low low bready flavors also come through.

M: Carbonation is high giving it a bit of a sharp carbonic bite. The spices leave a drying sensation on the tounge. Very low body making it more drinkable and consistant with the session title.

O: A spicey (boarderline overboard), dry, saison that doesn't live up to the session name. If this beer would have been lighter on the spices and slighly less carbonated I might be able to get behind it but overall I'm not a fan.

Photo of Los13
3/5  rDev -15.3%

Not a huge fan of Saisons but I actually enjoyed this one! Light body, you get little bits of the herbs and spices so it's not over seasoned (I guess you can say lol) it has more of a wheat beer finish. In all, it's a chill session saison that you can totally eat dinner with (I suggest apricot baked chicken on a bed Orzo Pasta!)

Photo of corby112
3.07/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3

Pours a slightly cloudy, pale golden yellow color with a two finger frothy white head that has pretty good retention, only slowly fading into a thick, lasting ring. Large streaks of soapy lacing left behind.

The aroma reminds me more of a wheat beer. There is some subtle grassy barnyard character but the dominant notes are peppery spice, bready yeast, banana and citrus. Only slightly earthy with pepper, clove and coriander followed by a strong wheat/bread like presence, lemon juice and citrus zest.

Fuller bodied than expected and a bit more like a saison than the nose suggests but it still feels and tastes more like a witbier/American wheat beer. Subtle earthy funky with lots of zesty spice up front followed by bread/yeast, banana and citrus juice. Coriander and clove flavor with lemon zest, wheat, light fruit and lemon peel. Crisp, light, refreshing and easy to drink but I don't think anyone would say that this is a saison in a blind tasting. Not bad but reminds me of a mediocre American wheat beer.

Photo of Darkmagus82
3.07/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Poured from bottle into a pint glass

Appearance – Pours a lightly hazed golden yellow color with a big billowy white head. The head initially fades very fast, but then slows its fade and lingers a bit. Once the head is completely faded (after about 4 min) a decent level of lace is left on the sides of the glass.

Smell – The aroma is heaviest of wheat, yeast, grass and some haylike funk. Mixed with these are notes of pepper, coriander and nutmeg as well; overall a fairly drier smelling traditional saison.

Taste – The taste starts out of a medium wheaty flavor as well as some flavors of a light citrus. As the taste advances yeast and the spices detected in the nose, come to the tongue with the orange citrus transitioning more toward a lemon flavor. As the orange transitions to lemon, the bready flavors lighten and haylike and grassy flavors enter the taste. These flavors all take the taste its end, where the funky and hay flavors get even stronger in nature producing a somewhat bitter and a bit unbalanced grassy and astringent haylike funky flavor to linger on the tongue.

Mouthfeel- The body of the beer is thin in its creaminess and thickness with a carbonation level that is on the higher side. Both are nice for making a crisp feeling brew and suit well the lighter session saison profile that the beer is going for.

Overall – The initial tastes, mouthfeel, and look were all very nice, but the finish to the taste, with its big funky, grassy, haylike, and bitter flavors weren’t balanced out by enough wheaty/bready flavors/body.

Photo of BWED
3.11/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12 oz. bottle into a pint

A- A hazy straw yellow with a half finger white head. Good lacing hangs around.

S- The spices and yeast jump out first, with some citrus/lemon notes.

T- Lemony and some spice. Malt isn't really a strong player in this. Also, the finish is very cleaner-like in taste.

M- High carbonation, light body (definitely a session) The bitter lemon cleaner aftertaste is not very good.

O- This is almost a mix between a shandy and a lemon cleaner. It looks good, but pretty much goes downhill from there.

Photo of Naugled
3.12/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This is definitely a well made beer, as most are from Victory, but the concept behind the spicing baffles me. It tastes way too savory and herbal, like chicken stuffing. It just left me with an odd impression. It's a beer worth trying, but I'm not sure how many people this will appeal to.

Photo of scotorum
3.13/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured from the 12 oz. bottle into a tulip glass.

a: Translucent gold with an inch white head which slowly receded to a fairly even surface foam film with medium ring and extensive lacing. Looks like it ought to be a good quality summer drink.

s: Mild light citrus.

t: Soapy-sourness which becomes a bubble-gummy vaguely flavored meh.

m: Refreshingly light to medium.

o: In the same class as many of the mainstream fruity summer beers. Whatever spices were added muted the fruit flavor into something undistinguished.

OTOH it does kind of grow on you as you drink it, and the lacing continues to broadcast quality. Just would not be my personal warm weather pick when there are so many excellent IPAs, pale ales and pilseners out there.

That said, I LOVE Victory Hop Wallop!

Photo of chinchill
3.15/5  rDev -11%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Undated 12 oz bottle into a Piraat tulip glass.

A: Pours a slightly hazed golden color. The white head has moderate size and duration but leaves ample lacing on the glass. High carbonation by appearances (and feel).

S: Plenty of lemon and other citrus with coriander and a background of grass, hops and wheat. Nice complexity for a 4.5% saison, albeit not very appealing.

T- Notably tart and fruity with some lemon zest, coriander, hay, banana, and vague spices. Rather sour and bitter aftertaste.

M- light bodied with crisp, high carbonation; dry finish.

O- a flavorful Saison that is too spiced to serve as a session beer for some. Nice and reffreshig, nonetheless, on a hot summer day.

Photo of Jeffreysan
3.17/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

12 oz bottle, poured into a pint glass

Appearance: Pours a golden yellow color with a finger of white head that slowly dissolved into a lacing of foam that covered the entire top of the beer.

Aroma: The beer has that typical, floral, Belgian-Saison aroma of banana, clove, orange-peel and yeast. A very bright aroma.

Taste: The flavor, however, is much weaker than the aroma. Very thin floral notes of hops and citrus, with just the faintest touch of coriander and clove.

Mouthfeel: Thin, slightly watery, but with some good carbonation to tickle the taste buds. At an ABV of only 4.5%, there is absolutely no presence of alcohol on the palate.

Overall: This is a pretty good beer, but nothing special. I enjoyed it, and if offered, will enjoy it again, but I probably won’t go out of my way to look for it.

Photo of gillagorilla
3.19/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

12 oz. bottle poured into a Burley Oak snifter

A: Extremely light yellow straw color. Even with a swirl the head is very minimal and dissipates very quickly. Just a bit of a collar.

S: It really smells like a lager with steady farmhouse smell that is a lot of horse blanket, which is amplified by the resonant smells of the lager-esque scents.

T: I've been going through the session IPAs, so why not a session saison. Really weird taste here. Doesn't really come across as a saison, but tasted more like just a standard lager. Just nothing exciting at all here. I barely get any saison out of this.

M: Light and coarse.

O: Not sure what I was expecting but it wasn't this. I will say that it isn't watery at all which is usually the first issue that session beers have to overcome. It seems that tasting too much like a standard lager might be the issue with session saisons.

Photo of SteveMi
3.26/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.25

Poured from the bottle into an oversized wine glass.

A - Straw yellow with a very small, faint white lacing which remains a while post pour. Carbonation still seems strong as bubbles make their way from the bottom. Not all that attractive. It actually looks sort of like Bud Light with less of a head.

S - Light with funk. There is some spice notes in there too but I mainly get funk. Someone else online noted it smells kind of like a hotdog. I can't explain it but, in a weird way, they are right.

T - Interesting! Right up front the pepper makes itself known followed a musk and hushed citrus that fades into a dry non-hop bitter taste.

M - Light body with medium carbonation. As the name suggests this would be very sessionable.

O - Not all that impressed with the over all taste and appearance but for a sessionable beer it's quite good.

Photo of Rifugium
3.28/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

First had: on tap at Victory, Downingtown, PA

Hazy straw-yellow pour with a finger or so of foamy white head that retained as a ringlet; small amount of lacing. In the nose, pale malts, toasted grains, yeast, essence of citrus and grass. Pale/pils malts in the taste, grassy, slightly musty, saison-y spice notes, hints of lemon zest. Not bad, but as with most saisons made by the "big boys," this one just doesn't cut it with me. Light-medium body, crisp and drinkable, just not something I'd go for again.

Photo of keithmurray
3.3/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance - hazy golden liquid with white head

Smell - lemon, ginger, coriander, pilsener malt

Taste - smells better than it tastes, sour lemon, limes, ginger

Mouthfeel - sour and astringent upfront, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is unbalanced

Overall - this was a disappointing beer that smelled better than it tasted

Price point - $1.79/ 12 oz single

Photo of Cyrano41
3.3/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a deep orangey - yellow. Smells a lot of the spice, a zesty floral hops. This was a bit off-putting for me. Head was decent with some lacing.
The spices were overpowering but interesting, but they were followed by a tangy bitter hops note that I was not expecting in a saison.
Saisons are one of my favorite styles and this one strayed to far from my expectations. I may have one more because Victory is a brewery I respect and honestly I had high hopes for this beer.

Photo of Mgm54
3.34/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Served in a 14oz draft at the pony bar in hell's kitchen, nyc

A - Golden yellow straw, slight 2 cm head, doesn't last long

S - Slight hops, citrus, lemon,and spice. Not much going on here, maybe my nose is broken

T - big citrus and lemon up front, ends with more lemon and some mild hop bitterness. A lot of lemon going on here, makes me

M - light, sessionable, drinks like a lager

O - not my personal preference, but a refreshing drink. I'll god drink some stouts now

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Swing Session Saison from Victory Brewing Company
80 out of 100 based on 758 ratings.