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Valeir Donker - Brouwerij Contreras

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Valeir DonkerValeir Donker

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BA SCORE
85
very good

30 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 30
Reviews: 16
rAvg: 3.81
pDev: 9.97%
Wants: 0
Gots: 1 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Belgian Dark Ale |  6.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: paterlodie on 02-09-2006)
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Reviews by Vinylboy20:
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4/5  rDev +5%

Vinylboy20, Jan 04, 2013
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Photo of Billolick
4.33/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Stubby, heavy small Belgian style bottle. Part of the new 12% Line. Pours dark murky chocolate, under an initially HUGE khaki head. Dissolving slowly and resting in a thick and frothy state. Leaves better then respectable lace and exudes an odor of chocolate, and cocoa infused sugars. More chocolate on the tongue, sweet and tasty, with dark malts and a hint of tropical fruity goodness. A slight sour note in the finish, along with an equally slight and subtle drying hop note. Yum. Only draw back here is the $3.99 per 11.2 ounce price tag

Billolick, Feb 11, 2009
Photo of mattfancett
3.7/5  rDev -2.9%

mattfancett, Sep 03, 2014
Photo of NeroFiddled
4.4/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Contreras' Donker pours a slightly hazy, ruby-accented deep chestnut-brown body beneath a full head of creamy yellowed-tan foam. The head retention is excellent, and it initially leaves rings of craggy lace around the glass as it goes. Later on those rings fade, but a ghostly veil is left behind.

In the nose it's caramelish with notes of dark skinned fruit (prune/plum, fig... perhaps some dried apricot as well). It's not bold, but it is bright and welcoming.

The flavor delivers more caramel than the nose suggests, and there's a touch of toasted grain and a hint of chocolate in there as well. The fruitiness remains, and it's at times a little juicy, and at others more like the bitterish skin of some dark fruits, and still yet at other times more like the sticky-sweet and leafy bitterness of dried dark fruit. It's really interesting how the flavors change as you progress through the glass and your palate adapts. A stiff bitterness backs it, and although there is some sweetness to it, it balances completely in the finish.

Overall, it's a really enjoyable, fairly complex beer that somehow, is also quite readily accessible, even for a dark beer. People that don't normally enjoy beer will probably like this one, especially if they enjoy darker red wines. Very nice! Worth seeking out!

NeroFiddled, Jun 03, 2009
Photo of Gmann
4.13/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a mud puddle brown color with a fairly dense khaki colored head that left some nice sticky lacing on the glass. The aroma is of figs, raisins and brown sugar, perhaps some carob. Some honey aromas as well. Raisins and fig in the flavor as well, a bit rusty. Nice and sweet but not overly sweet; has a honey like sweetness and a coffee bean bitterness, though no coffee flavors. Moderate body with fizzy carbonation; drinks sweet but does have a nice bittering offset. Quite flavorful for a BDA, and with the 6.5ABV you will remember drinking it.

Gmann, Feb 21, 2009
Photo of metter98
4.03/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: The beer is dark reddish brown in color and has a light to moderate amount of carbonation. It poured with a finger high creamy beige head that has excellent retention properties and hardly died down.
S: The smell is quite fruity and has some hints of sweetness; aromas of figs, grapes and plums stand out in particular.
T: Like the smell, flavors of dark fruits dominate the overall taste, which has a slight amount of malty sweetness. There are some notes of bitterness and spicy yeast in the finish.
M: It feels medium-bodied and slightly dry on the palate with a moderate to high amount of carbonation.
D: I would definitely have this beer again because the flavor is rather complex and interesting.

metter98, Feb 19, 2011
Photo of civicm87
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

civicm87, Jul 10, 2013
Photo of Rwalford74
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

Rwalford74, Oct 12, 2013
Photo of Biff_Tannen
3.5/5  rDev -8.1%

Biff_Tannen, Jan 31, 2014
Photo of TeachChefs
3/5  rDev -21.3%

TeachChefs, Nov 09, 2013
Photo of Tertullian007
3.25/5  rDev -14.7%

Tertullian007, Jul 27, 2013
Photo of 57md
3.68/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Bottle had an expiration date of 10-Dec-2013 on it.

Pours a brownish straw color with two fingers of head that retain for a very long time. The nose is a combination of yeast and sour fruits. There is also some fruitiness in the taste along with a nice semi-dry finish.

This is a good Belgian ale, but I'd probably call it a pale ale instead of a dark ale.

57md, Mar 09, 2013
Photo of ShareANevada
4.03/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A beautiful pour into my chimay chalice. The tight head, I can best describe as sexy. Ok, maybe I was looking forward to trying this one.. :)

Very sweet aroma, chocolate and fig, had to look twice that this was not styled as a dubbel.

Smooth, creamy, full mouthfeel. Pretty luxurious, really. Maybe she is living up to her looks. Wisps of lace still cling to the glass as I reach for it, quicker each time. Very drinkable, and very approachable, packing plenty of flavor and body into a 6.5 beer.

As it warms and the carbonation begins to fade a bit, some more of the fruit starts coming through. Delicate, but reinforcing at the end.

A nice rich beer. Even, balanced character, without all the sweet the nose suggests. A very enjoyable brew. Not earth shattering, but I would certainly repeat.

ShareANevada, Jun 30, 2010
Photo of John_M
3.98/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On tap at Max's today.

The beer pours a slightly reddish brown amber color with good head retention and consierable sticky lacing all around. The nose is likewise attractive, with brown sugar, light milk chocolate, something of a sour fruit component and some underlying spice. The flavor profile replicates the nose pretty closely, with the brown sugar and chocolate dominating. The beer is at most moderately sweet, with some nice, not overdone, hoppy bitterness balancing that sweetness quite well. Mouthfeel is medium bodied and maybe just a bit thin, but with a fairly long, spice filled finish. Drinkability is quite good, with the alcohol very well integrated into the flavor profile. The alcohol is not the least bit noticeable, and the beer is not at all heavy, hot or tiring.

While nothing spectacular, I thought this still a pretty strong effort from this always excellent and reliable brewery.

John_M, Mar 13, 2011
Photo of avalon07
3.65/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Poured from a bottle to a tulip glass. Had a dark brown color and a thick, murky texture. There was a small amount of foamy head that quickly dissipated. Not much lacing.

S: A big aroma of yeast, fruit, and some malt.

T: Tasted of malt, fruit (apples, plums), Belgian yeast, and mild spices (pepper). Good, but not as robust as you might expect. Doesn't quite live up to the aroma's promise, but is a decent enough flavor.

M: A well-carbonated beer with a crisp, clean finish. Medium-bodied.

O: This is a drinkable beer, but there are definitely other BDAs that I would choose first.

avalon07, May 08, 2012
Photo of sitarist
3.48/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a deep, cloudy chestnut brown. There is an inch and a half of off white head. The head falls to a top coating that leaves sheets of lacing.

Its aroma is sweet, tart, and earthy. I smell caramel, tootsie rolls, prunes, and fig. Reminds me of Asian plum sauce.

The flavor follows the nose...with less of the sweet, and more of the tart.

Medium body, with scrubbing carbonation. The mouthfeel is a bit thin and fails to deliver the flavors. Bitter tannins are all that rest on my tongue.

Looks and smells good...but its all down hill from there.

sitarist, Feb 08, 2011
Photo of paterlodie
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

No freshness date carved but fresh as this is the old "Carlos" w ith a new name. Maybe slight differences but didn't reed my old revieuws about Carlos and have none left to compare. Nice presentation with good and lasting white with litle yellow head and a very black in the light with mahony shine and clear. Nose is funky and caramellic with lot of bananna esters. Litle fresh dried hay and overall invitinhg and different. Dry malty and carramellic without sweetness but nice bitter& roastyness and creamy and oily though litle sandy mouthfeel also.
Nice adchiefment and enjoyable brew that shows lots of taste for it's 6.5%ABV.

paterlodie, Feb 09, 2006
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4/5  rDev +5%

sonorb7, Dec 25, 2013
Photo of RblWthACoz
3.65/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a dark ruby hued brown with a large creme head that has staying power. Nose is mild perfume and fruit tones. Flavor is malty with a consistent sweet tone. Minor figs. Seems like mild apricots, and I do mean mild. Consistent sweet tone you'd expect. Feel has a pretty full carbonation and a decent liquid body. Pretty easy to drink. If this were served on tap, you could probably down several of them.

RblWthACoz, Mar 10, 2009
Photo of Sicem99
4.5/5  rDev +18.1%

Sicem99, Apr 29, 2012
Photo of ADZA
3.56/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dirty brown hue with a subtle one finger head that stays and leaves nice clingy lacing everywhere,the smell is chestnuts,dried fruits,candi sugar and a touch of milk chocolate,the mouthfeel is medium bodied and well carbonated over moderate and the tastes are milk chocolate,dried fruits,candi sugar and finished with a roasty nuttiness and overall a pleasant surprise not fantastic but easy to drink.

ADZA, Oct 04, 2013
Photo of AdamBear
3.95/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A-dark murky brown with a thin tan head. Doesn't pour out with much liveliness though.

S-faint smell of dark roasted Belgian malts malts. Hint of cocoa. Smells decent. 

T-comes in with a slightly watery taste of dark Belgian malts, very similar to the nose. The cocoa is in there as well. It's an extremely subtle flavor. The after-taste is matching and much more prominent. 

M-medium to low creamy carbonation with a semi-dry finish

O-this definitely isn't a bad Belgian. There are no bad flavors. It's just a tad bit more mellow than I like my beers, which wouldn't be terrible if it were cheaper. I'd recommend people to give it a try. It has a unique cocoa character to it.

AdamBear, Jul 25, 2012
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4.75/5  rDev +24.7%

cowboy83, Jun 06, 2012
Photo of mrfrancis
3.3/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a hazy, murky brownish amber with a thin, clinging tan head.

S: Aromas of spicy yeast, prunes, figs, caramel, and raisins are present on the nose.

T: Notes of prunes, figs, raisins, spicy ale yeast, caramel, dark bread, chocolate, and earthy, leathery hops wash across the palate. The finish is thin, but pleasant, with notes of caramel, spicy yeast, and prunes.

M: Medium-bodied and a bit syrupy. Carbonation is a little too unobtrusive for the style. Could stand to be a bit thicker.

O: After tracking down Valeir Blond and being impressed by such depth in a standard Belgian pale ale, I expected to be impressed by Valeir Donker. Unfortunately, my expectations may have been unreasonably high, as this ale slightly misses the mark. I found the body to be too thin, the carbonation to be too gentle, and the flavor profile to lean a little too heavily towards cloying sweetness. While Valeir Donker may not be a bad beer by any measure, it isn't a great one either. Decent, but a little out of whack nevertheless.

mrfrancis, May 29, 2012
Photo of samEBC
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

samEBC, Apr 27, 2013
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Valeir Donker from Brouwerij Contreras
85 out of 100 based on 30 ratings.