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Brewer Patriot Collection - James Madison Dark Wheat Ale - Boston Beer Company (Samuel Adams)

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BA SCORE
81
good

187 Ratings
THE BROS
85
very good

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Ratings: 187
Reviews: 169
rAvg: 3.55
pDev: 14.08%
Wants: 2
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Boston Beer Company (Samuel Adams) visit their website
Massachusetts, United States

Style | ABV
American Dark Wheat Ale |  ABV ?

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Brewed with hand-smoked malt from red and white oak from a forest in Orange County, VA, on land once owned by James Madison.

(Beer added by: Todd on 06-03-2006)
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Photo of DoubleJ
3.93/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Moving on to the third part of this, the Brewer Patriot Invitational, is James Madison Dark Wheat Ale. Served at room temperature like the other beers so far in this invite, and poured into a weizen glass, on to the beer:

The beer takes on a hazy caramel color, topped by a large head. Fruity undertones in the aroma, with touches of brown sugar sweetness. In the taste, the smokiness from the smoked grains is subtle, and help create a overall harmony of flavor. Candied apples, wood chips, and some caramel. As with other wheat beers, it's an easy drinker and doesn't get boring.

Here's a beer I would like to see on the SA production line again. It has a nice mellow flavor which you can toss back a few of. I'm sad to see my glass approaching empty as i type this. I guess I'll have to hope the Root Beer Brew, the final recipe of the Brewer Patriot Invite, is just as good. Oh, about that, it'll be a matinée tasting tomorrow.

Photo of MuenchenerKindl
3.45/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 oz bottle to a hefe style glass, The liquid is a cloudy light brown with ok carbonation. The head is ok two fingers off white that leaves little lace.

The smell is week and mildly yeasty, some faint fruit notes,

The taste follows not must to note. A yeasty caramel flavor.

The mouthfeel is light and watery. Not much body at all. Carbonation is ok.

The drinkability is ok. Not a great brew but interesting and worth a try. MK

Photo of ism
3.53/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Cloudy, reddish milk chocolate color with an off-white head, 1 finger with decent retention and good lacing. Roasted malt in the nose, touch of dark berries, not much else. Tastes much better, roasted malt, chocolate, and nuts dominate, very little in the way of hops. Slight acidic wheat bite, especially in the finish, which plays off the sweetness. Thin mouthfeel, enjoyable carbonation. Mellows out a bit as the glass gets drained. Like the rest of the series, weird, but this is actually pleasing, if not tiring. The best one out of the series, in my opinion.

Photo of rowew
3.55/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Presentation: 12 oz longneck, same label as the other Patriot beers, best by date on the label (this is obviously well past that, but its been in the fridge since purchase).

Appearance: Dark reddish brown, medium sized head, good retention.

Smell: Wheat, some dark fruit, and just a bit of tobacco.

Taste: Medium to thin mouthfeel, the same dark fruit and wheat flavors here. A bit of rootbeer like flavors too.

Overall impression: Interesting beer - more drinkable than I would have expected from this series. Nice flavors blend together fairly well.

Photo of pmcadamis
4/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Chestnut brown and hazy with a small tan head that eventually becomes a thick collar and readily comes back with a swirl. Some nice lace is left on the glass.

S - Nutty (almond and chestnut) with some milk chocolate notes. No real hop aromas to speak of. A bit roasty and very English brown-esque.

T - Roasty, nutty, and mild with some big caramel flavors and some light chocolate notes. An orange citric wheat flavor is there too, and would almost seem out of place but it reminds me of those little orange-marshmallow stuffed chocolates that come in an assorted box.

M - Mild and sweet at first, with a very tart and citrusy acidity at the finish. A bit confusing, but unique.

D - Like the others that I've tried from this 4-pack, it's very interesting and unique, but a bit too bizarre to be highly drinkable. This one is the most drinkable of the pack so far (I haven't tried the porter yet, and something tells me I've probably saved the best for last).

Photo of RBorsato
3.4/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Hazy copper/dark brown in color with a low tan ringed head and nice active carbonation. Sweet malt, light roasted malt, and light wheat aromas. Sweet malt dominates in the mouth with some grainy wheat character; lightly roasty. Light-medium bodied with a lightly sweet and light roasted malt finish.

Not bad compared to the rest of the Series but nothing exceptional.

Per Label: "Authentic Recipe #3" & "Wheat Ale brewed with Hand-Smoked Malted Barley" & "Malted Rye"

Enjoy Before: Oct '06
Tasted: 04/11/07

($8.99 / 4-pack "Brewer Patriot Collection")

Photo of stephendr
3.55/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle- color of medium mahogany , with a thick white head - nose of bread , malt , sweet , roasted , chocolate , and hints of raspberries – taste of bread , malts , and blue / raspberries - body is medium acidic , low viscosity , and with high carbonation – aftertaste of chocolate , malts , sweet , and watery

Photo of dauss
3.35/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Presentation: Standard SA bottle with the logo on the side. Long blurb about the beer, and it's best before October 2006. It's mid April.

Appearance: Deep ruby color with hints of gold. A light tan head of densely packed bubbles rests on top. The retention is fair, but the lacing is good.

Smell: Getting a lot of malt sweetness. Very heavy tones of toffee. A very faint smoke aroma is there, but hard to pick up.

Taste: Very first taste you get the malt sweetness. Its very finely carbonated, and it seems to be very creamy when it hits the tongue. At first I mistook the beer for being very light bodied, but it is actually medium. The fullness, the acidic slight bite, and the dryness that the rye in combination with the wheat makes for an interesting combination.. The smoked malt I am having trouble picking up.

Notes: Not too bad for a historical style. I wish this beer was a bit more flavorful, perhaps more hops.

Photo of July2Nov
3.9/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

6-months past the borne on date.
A: A beautiful deep, cloudy brown with a finger width of head.
S: Roasty smokey smell.
T&M: Full-bodied richness with a hint of sweetness toward the end. Leaves the mouth with a sense of fullfillment. I like.
D: This is a very respectable brew and one I could drink for years to come...too bad it's a one-shot deal.

Photo of jdhilt
3.03/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.5

Pours a four finger light tan head that fades to a ring leaving some lace. Cloudy amber color. Light carbonation and light bodied. Wheat/malty nose. Flavor has sweetness from the malt and there is wheat and yeast coming through as well. $9.99 - 4-pak, 12oz bottle from Shaw's Supermarket Concord, NH.

Photo of blitz134
3.8/5  rDev +7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Going through this 4 bottle set has taken me a really long time. I only have one more to finish after this one. I am glad to see I'm not the only one still working on these though. I can't help but laugh when I read that the malt was smoked with oak from land once owned by James Madison; it probably made a huge difference in the flavor, haha.

Murky, dark caramel color with an off-white head. Small initially and then reduced to a skim layer. Limited lacing in large bands. This is a wheat beer, head retention would be a good thing but its not here.

I find the smell quite interesting. Overall its pretty sweet and has a lot of sweet, yeast roll malt aromas in it. Almost has a bit of an alcoholic edge to it too. The smoke is light, but you can still pick it out.

The wheat is more evident in the flavor, but there is still that sweet yeast roll that plays a major par. There is a bit of rye that comes in too. A little spiciness and oak offers up some supporting roles. Still I think it has more alcohol tones than normal. Pretty good flavor, and not something I've had all that often. I really like this more than I like most wheat beers.

Decent mouthfeel, medium or so in nature. A fair amount of carbonation that works well with the spiciness. Flavor lingers for a bit but then fades leaving the rye flavors to play for a little longer.

I actually like this more than most wheat beers as I mentioned above. It has its wheat characteristics, but there is a substantial malt presence as well. Easy to put down and pretty refreshing with the carbonation levels and medium body. Good stuff, my favorite so far.

Photo of brewdlyhooked13
3.93/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Appearance - pours a slightly clouded dark orange-amber. A good finger of creamy, pale tan head has good retention but not much for lace.

Aroma - malty, rye-infused wheat with a smoky edge. A sweet-smelling yeast prevails as the beer settles.

Taste - a mix of wheat, smoked malt and yeast. Leans to the sweet side, moreso towards the finish. A distant touch of sourness at the end.

Mouthfeel - soft smoothness, keyed down carbonation, and somewhat filling body.

Drinkability - a unique and tasty beer, an enjoyable selection.

Photo of auxiliary
3.45/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appearance - Pours a Dark brown color, some head and lacing.

Smell - Malts, honey, wheat aroma

Taste - Coco , toated barley, and creamy

Mouthfeel - Crisp, smooth, carbinbated.

Drinkability - Nice balance, refreshing. This was my favorite out of the 4 pack.

Photo of sulldaddy
3.58/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Sampled with Stopper. The beer is poured at room temp into a snifter. the beer pours a cloudy mahogany with thin beige edge layer foaming up.
Aroma is some wheat malt twang and a bit of caramel then some cloves hiding in back, as well as a bit of dark fruit. nice nose!
First sip reveals an average body with mild carbonation that is almost non-existent.
Flavor is toffee and caramel with a bit of dark fruit, plums primarily.
No hops are anywhere to be found. A general sweetness permeates the beer with no hint of alcohol. A very easy drinker, flavor is not as complex as the nose advertises, but otherwise a decent beer.

Photo of alexgash
4.03/5  rDev +13.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a nice-looking, murky, milky, dark orange-brown with a thick, dense, clingy, cream-khaki head. Nose of sweetish wheat malt, like sugary beer bread. Spiced apple fruitiness, caramel, and yeast as well. Tangy, chalky graininess up front, accompanied by unripened pear and yeast. Mid-palate is sweet bread, toffee banana, and smoke. Finish is wheat bitter. Moderate, proteiny body and feel. Not bad at all. I would have drunk this 200+ years ago no problem!

Photo of bigone4
3.18/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Found the last two reviews of the Samuel Adams Brewer Patriot I had done a while back. This beer poured a rather lighter hazy brownish color. Almost looks like root beer. Mild white head that is gone as fast as it appeared. No real lacing in the pint. Smells of caramel and roasted malts. Nice hint of hops in the back ground. Taste is rather light and watery. Stronger roasted flavors from the malt and barley. This one has a more enjoyable flavor than the ginger honey brew. Decent taste that leaves a mild presence of hops in the back of the mouth. I would not seek this one out if they ever brewed it again but this beer was half way decent. It was neat to try beers made to the true styles of the time. I am glad that technology and brewing has changed for the better over the years.

Photo of plaid75
3.9/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a murky light brown hue with a two finger creamy off white head. There was very good retention and lacing.

The smell featured a sweet caramel malt, a smoky wheat malt and a bit of spicy yeast.

The flavor consisted of a sweet caramel malt with hints of smoky grains, spicy rye and burnt wheat.

The mouthfeel was mildly chewy.

Overall an enjoyable dark wheat ale. Nice and sessionable. Certainly the best of the SA specialty pack.

Photo of BeerSox
2.98/5  rDev -16.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

12oz bottle into pint glass.

Cloudy dark amber with a red tint. An off-white fizzy head forms, but lasts for less than a minute. Spotty lacing.

Light wheat aromas with a little bit of smokiness.

Thin bodied with a smokey malt flavor and very little hop bitterness toward the end. The carbonation gives it a sharp feel on the tongue. The finish has a little bit of smoke in it, along with some of the hop bitterness. A little bit of a metallic taste lingers.

Hints of smoke and dark wheat malt. Seems like the flavors are a bit low. It's a decent beer, just not good enough to get any praises.

Photo of objectivemonkey
3.9/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a relatively unattractive cloudy brown though with a huge head and good lacing. Aroma is simply dark wheats, sweet malts, maybe nutty, a little timid but pretty decent.. Taste is kind of the same, dark wheaty malt, caramel sweet, toasty malt, any hopping is gone by now if there ever was, with a thicker than expected body, smooth and slighty carbonating, pretty nice overall, wouldn't have know this to be a 'historical' brew at all, something like the rest Ive been having.

Photo of kernalklink
3.08/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I was hoping for much more from Sam Adams on this one. Probably the ugliest beer Ive ever drank, crap cloudy brown with no head, some lacing. There was a promising scent of malty sweetness, but there was none upon tasting. What can be tasted is gone in an instant in this watered down brew. No presence of smokiness or toffee, quite flavorless except for the slight alcoholic burn. Not impressed, but at least it went down light.

Photo of SPLITGRIN
3.58/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A very large fluffy head at 2 inches almost jumps off of this hazy amber brown body that almost looks lide swampwater. Wheat and malt balance on the nose is soft but nice, even a hint of hazelnut. The first thing that wakes the taste buds is a slight sour twing but it quickly yields to a nutty fuzzy hue on the palate. Long syrupy sour sweetness finishes out the palate and runs into the mouthfeel. Not bad overall. Quite drinkable. And probably the best in the series of four.

Photo of Billolick
3.65/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12 ouncer with "best enjoyed before" dating of october 2006 ( 2 months ago...) oh well, anyway it pour cloudy, caramel amber, with a long lasting thin creamy head, leaves moderate stringy lacing and the nose is of some lightly smoked malts. Notes of caramel, more light smoke and some biscuity malts. Smooth, easy drinking dark wheat. Nothing amazing, but a respectable ale. Love the style in general, this one is not bad, too bad I don't think they are gonna brew it again any time soon.

Photo of gmcfarre
3.6/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Sampled during a home tasting of the Brewer Patriot collection.

A - Murky brown auburn orange with litte carbonation or head.

S - Not potent at all, but a burnt malt predominates.

T - Midrange and aftertaste is flat and unimpressive. Rest of the taste is slightly smoky with a good blend of hops and malt sweetness.

M - Carbo bite yet smooth.

D - Most drinkable of the 4, so much so that I would consider a 6-pack for average quaffing needs (if they existed).

Photo of RedHaze
3.25/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Pours a hazy dark brown with a one finger head that fades slowly to a thin soapy cap, leaving behind a pretty nice sheeting of lace behind.

Smell; there's some wheat like aromas, but on the subdued side. Some sweet malts are also present, but once again on the weak side. I think that about sums up the aroma, thin and weak.

Taste; as with the smell, the wheat is there, just not as prominant as I would have expected, since this is labeled a wheat beer. There's a bit of a sweet toffee maltiness, as well as a bit of apples, which makes this a little interesting, with absolutely no hop bitterness to speak of. The flavors are actually not that bad at all, it's just not a very complex, or exciting.

Mouthfeel/Drinkability; Mouthfeel is light bodied, and in no way resembles what I expect in a wheat beer, but it does have a nice drinkability that would make it easy to knock back a few of these in a row.

I went into this one with an open mind (even having read some of the reviews), but this one was not a very good wheat beer. I actually expected to like this one a little more than I did.

Photo of SuperSpy
3.98/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - A cloudy brown pour with a 1-inch off-white head that disappeared within two minutes and no lace.

S - Hints of maple syrup, caramel, butter and apple.

T - Apple and raisins. Almost an apple butter flavor without the sweetness. The finishing taste is a delicate whole wheat bread with a hint of smokiness. Leaves a smoky aftertaste. As it warms I can pick up grape and molasses. I'm really enjoying this one the closer I get to the bottom of the glass.

M - Medium bodied with good carbonation that makes this very tingly and refreshing.

D - This could make a good session beer. I enjoy the flavor and the uniqueness of the fruit and smoke. SA may want to make this one a regular, at least then the price may go down and make it affordable to drink a few.

Brewer Patriot Collection - James Madison Dark Wheat Ale from Boston Beer Company (Samuel Adams)
81 out of 100 based on 187 ratings.