Cinder Bock - Boston Beer Company (Samuel Adams)

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BA SCORE
81
good

455 Ratings
THE BROS
79
okay

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Ratings: 455
Reviews: 164
rAvg: 3.57
pDev: 17.65%
Wants: 21
Gots: 36 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Boston Beer Company (Samuel Adams) visit their website
Massachusetts, United States

Style | ABV
Rauchbier |  9.45% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Jason on 01-09-2012

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Photo of oberon
4.09/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

In order for me to give a perfect score in any category of a beer I have to be wowed and in awe of it and I gotta say I was both in the pour of this beer.Poured a rich deep bronze with a perfectly formed cremay one finger light tan head that has held thru the duration,just perfect color and definition and creaminess in the head.The aromas don't bring so much promise with some hardwood smoke and mild sweetness.That creamy head translates in the feel with a creamy coating feel,very nice.A nice mix of sweet caramel and anise flavors and more subtle upfront smoke,the smoke plays a larger role in the finish.Hey I love this hybrid,the smoke is somewhat assertive as is the doppelbock toasty sweetness and warming notes,I loved it!

Photo of lordofthewiens
3.95/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This attractive beer was a dark ruby/mahogany color with a thick tan head. There was a little bit of lace.

Smoky aroma. Caramel malt. Very sweet. These all worked well together, making a very pleasant aroma.

Taste followed aroma very closely. Strong toffee and caramel with a smoky background.

Enjoyable, medium-bodied. Maybe a little on the sweet side. I liked it.

Photo of Jason
3.49/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

22oz brown bottle with no freshness date.

LOOK: Tawny hue, hazed, superb head and lacing

SMELL: Smoke, birch, ash, spice, rose water, caramel, raisins, more smoke

TASTEL: Smooth, very smoky, slightly cloying, caramel, ash, charred wood, pears, spicy alcohol, bready, mild tartness, herbal, floral, semi-juicy, more smoke, ashy smoky finish

Too much smoke IMO so I can easily say it was not balanced at least for me. Thankfully this is a big beer so it can take a few lumps, good to sip but there is no way I could see finishing this bottle off during a long session. Asking you to try it would be a dare if you are not into smoked beers, even if you are it might be a challenge.

Photo of tigg924
4.42/5  rDev +23.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a Sam Adams perfect pint glass

Appearance: 1/4 inch head, high carbonation, orange-brown in color, clear

Smell: big time smoke

Taste: smoky malt--maybe slight bacon--then this beer transforms into a dopplebock with huge caramel and toffee sweetness and light bark like hops

Mouthfeel: smoky goodness at first followed by a very sweet body and finish with light bitterness to take some sweet edge off, medium carbonation, medium-light bodied

Overall: This may be my favorite Sam Adams brew. This beer is a combination of two styles that really do not combine within the brew, but take separate turns at being excellent.The rauchbier aspect is dead on--similar to Aecht Scherlenkerla's Urbock--and the dopplebock that follows almost has more of a sweetness that I associate with an English barleywine. The alcohol is scarily barely noticeable. This one is right up there with the best I have had this year. I would not take this over Scherlenkerla's Urbock or Marzen, but for a cheaper US treat, I would stock this on a regular basis.

Photo of Mora2000
4/5  rDev +12%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer pours a deep red color with a tan head. The aroma is definitely that of a smoked beer. I get a ton of meaty BBQ-like smoke, as well as a little bit of roasted malt. The flavor follows suit. There are a lot of burnt malts, as well as as good dose of smoke and a little bit of sweetness from the toffee or caramel malt. Still, this beer is all about the smoke and it definitely delivers on that front. I don't get any alcohol, which is surprising since the beer is nearly 10 percent. Medium, creamy mouthfeel and medium carbonation.

Photo of RTEdmunds
3.84/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Oh wow this looks sexy. Deep reddish-amber color, foamy head.

Smells smokey, as expected. I also detect something that smells like beef jerky spices? Kind of odd, maybe it's just me.

I can taste the beef jerkyish flavor as well. Not very bitter at all. The sugars that compliment it are dark... remind me of molasses or something. Can definitely taste the alcohol. A bit of a metallic aftertaste.

Moderate carbonation, and surprisingly smooth. This is more drinkable than I expected.

My first encounter with a Rauchbier. It's intriguing, but the alcohol was a little overpowering and the metallicy aftertaste was a turnoff.

Photo of jondeelee
4/5  rDev +12%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I admit a certain amount of trepidation, since rauchbiers are not one of my favorite styles. However, the aromas of Cinder Bock are quite pleasant, and while they do feature a good helping of the liquid smoke and campfire notes that I associate with the style, the nose is nicely balanced by dark sugars (fig, molasses) and dark breads (marble rye, toasted wheat crust). There's even a touch of vanilla and honey in there. Overall, I'm (at least so far) impressed by this brew, and while I do wish that the smokiness was a little more dampened, I don't find it as offputting as I do in other rauchbiers.

On the tongue, the beer starts off deep and smoky, the first tastes to hit the tongue much like the smoky part of, say, a smoked turkey, if you somehow removed the turkey. These flavors bring to mind campfires, charcoal brisquets, ash. A strong wave of sugars almost instantly joins, bringing caramel, fig, brown sugar, molasses, and vanilla, as well as some orange and berry and helps to soften the smoky blow. More marble rye breads follow, and the beer has a distinct spicy, peppery quality, biting at the tongue. A tinge of vodka does mar the brew somewhat, the huge flavors still not quite capable of coping with the 9.4% ABV. And even through the sugars and breads, a wave of smoke rolls over everything, sometimes catalyzing, sometimes masking, as it does in the aftertaste, which reminds me strongly of drinking a sugary stout while sucking in a cloud of piney campfire smoke. The aftertaste does last for a long time. Mouthfeel is medium, and carbonation is medium.

Overall, I like the beer, despite my problems with the style. The smoke notes here are still too strong for my tastes, but they are nicely balanced (except in the aftertaste) by lovely, sugary dark fruit esters, and for most of the mouthful neatly complement the brew. So well made is the beer that even subsequent mouthfuls don't lose their potency or nuance, assuring a smooth drink for the entire bottle. Worth trying.

Photo of MattyG85
4.03/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from 650 ml bottle into a Sam Adams perfect pint glass.

Appearance: Pours a deep brownish ruby red with a tint of orange. Lots of rising bubbles and a huge four fingers of off white head with good retention. Lots of lacing sticking around the glass.

Smell: A fairly strong smell of smoke up front with hints of wood and smoked meats. Big presence of bready malts with lots of caramel and toffee. Also some hints of dark fruit, brown sugar, and faint earthy hops. Smells smoky and sweet.

Taste: Starts with a good taste of smoke that lingers throughout with a little taste of beef jerky and wood. Big bready taste with lightly roasted caramel malts and toffee. Hints of sugar/molasses and a little dark fruit. Also some hints of earthy hops to balance out the sweetness. Tastes a lot like a Dopplebock that is moderately smoked.

Mouthfeel: Body on the higher side of medium with a moderate level of carbonation. Creamy, somewhat sticky, and very smooth. A little alcohol heat is noticed but not much.

Overall: A pretty solid take on a Rauchbier. The smoke is very noticeable but not overwhelming and blends well with the malts.

Photo of alexkeil
3.79/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Purchased a bottle (1 pint 6 fl.oz.) from Consumer Beverage in Lockport, NY. No freshness date but the back label says batch #1.

This is a really nice looking beer: pours a clear, really beautiful mahogany color with an off white just about tan head, that sticks along the glass and that persists nicely thoughout the beer's life.

The smell is predominately sweet malts: toffee and caramel with hints of light smoke way in the back.

The taste is big malt flavor up front: toffee, caramel, ripe banana. There is a quick drying from the higher alcohol level that is noticeable in the swallow. The smoke is right there on the back of the tongue and helps fight that malt sweetness.

The mouthfeel is medium to slightly full body with a little prickle from the carbonation and alcohol. A pretty different experience with this malty velvety texture followed by a quick drying smokey finish.

I like that Samuel Adams is experimenting with smoked malts and I hope they do more. I like their rauchbier and hope maybe they'll do a smoked porter. This beer is very well made, adventurous, and thoughtful beer. I would prefer more smoke malts and maybe less alcohol, but an enjoyable taste nonetheless.

Photo of williamjbauer
3.92/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served in a weizen glass from a brown bottle

A - Deep dark amber with 2 finger khaki head with good retention and lacing.

S - Smokey, savory honey, spice, and most of all BEEF JERKY!

T - Sweet honey at the start and progresses into one of the weirdest beer experiences ever. Tastes like drinking straight up beer jerky, I kid you not. Notes of smoked salmon, grassy hops, caramel, smoke. Just a touch of alcohol.

M - Medium body, moderate carbonation, chewy.

O - A strange beer but still enjoyable. I bet this will pair well with rich cheeses. Couldn't drink this on a regular basis, but would make a nice session beer in the middle of winter.

Photo of chinchill
3.46/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bottle pours orange-red-amber with a large and very durable tan head.

Smokey aroma allows a fruity and malty base to come through. The flavor is more smokey, however, and ultimately, only the smokey flavor remain.

M: medium-full body with near perfect carbonation. Creamy smooth.

O: a bit too smokey for my taste, but certainly not over the top for a rauchbier.

Photo of rhoadsrage
2.73/5  rDev -23.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

(Served in a dimple mug)
Batch #1
A- This beer pours a dense light caramel hued body with a raging carbonation of big bubbles supporting a rocky head of light tan.

S- The mellow cloth band aid aroma has some brown sweet malt notes to follow.

T- The big band aid and salty bacon flavored smoke taste stains the tongue with some slight sweetness in the finish taking on some salty sweet brown malt notes as it opens.

M- The medium mouthfeel has a gentle carbonation and no real alcohol

O- If I have to taste band aids this is the least offensive of the kinds but it grows stronger and stronger with each sip. I think there is a tasty beer in this bottle with nice hints of malt sweetness but it is well hidden in the loud salty bacon, band aid flavors. It was a bit to rough to finish.

Photo of Brenden
3.86/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

The color is a medium-dark red edging toward brown but with a copper hue coming through in the light. Nearly two fingers of tan head show good retention and leave a tattered sheet of lace.
The nose is good if not a bit one-dimensional. Big malts mlay a strong foundation. Sitting on it are a big molasses sweetness and some smoke along with a sting of alcohol.
The flavor pulls out a little more. Malts remain strong and build from there. Smoke is a major element but far from overdone, and it adds a bit of a meaty element. Molasses is there as expected but also doesn't overtake the other flavors. It's a tasty, well-balanced doppelbock that is traditional but for the smoke.
Alcohol ends up being more of an issue in the feel than the flavor (where it's well masked), not quite going so far as to impart astrincency but close enough to detract. Otherwise thos doppel has a pretty big body with some smoothness to it, and depth is no issue.

Photo of rdilauro
3.4/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

I really want sure what to expect with this one. I've been tasting several of the Samuel Adams from Boston Beer Company editions and each one has had its surprises.

I assumed that being a Bock, it was going to be full bodied, low in carbonation, hardly any crispness and lacking of hops.

When I taste new beers or wines, I never read the labels or any other review. I dont want to be influenced by what someone else stated.

The aroma of this one was average, malty, but what I would normally expect from a bock. But then the first sip!, I could have be next to a camp fire. The smoky taste was right there , up front, very pronounced but at the same type not over powering. I couldnt wait until the second sip. Now, I appreciated the smoky flavour so much more. I only wish I had some good smoked ribs or steak to go with this one

The finish was just right for this one.

When I talk about this beer to some of the customers, I will talk about the smoke flavour. Its the same thing I do when a customer is looking for a Sauvignon Blanc, and I explain the differences between California, Washington State and New Zealand Sauvignon Blancs. The ones from New Zealand are loaded with citrus and its almost like biting into a fresh pink grapefruit.

This is one I will be again and put some away for later on

Photo of secondtooth
3.87/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pours a ruddy, cloudy red. Huge head of off-white bubbles. Stunning, detailed, frilly lace.

Nose is lively smoky bacon, with notes of salted meat and woody goodness. Wow.

Taste is similar, but heavier on the malty bock side. I get some of the woody, cured-meat flavor, but with a heftier sweetness on the palate than I was hoping for. Finishes woody and warming.

Overall, a curious and unique melding of styles, but not of the caliber as the Schlenkerla rauchbiers.

Photo of RickS95
3.68/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Comes out of the bomber almost thickish. Dark ruby leather brown. Opaque. The head is gorgeous...very thick, uniform bubbles, bright white, I think you could hold up a quarter with how stout it looks. Good retention, slight lace as it gradually dwindles to a thin ring.

Alcohol, caramel and smoke. The alcohol leads but is quickly met by the balancing act of caramel mats and smoke.

While not as refined as a German, I like the smokey quality on the tongue. Tastes like there's some dark ripe fruits in the background. But it's mostly a wet bark, smoky flavor that's imparted.

There's a looseness to it and the aftertaste is a bit strange. None of the flavors are what I'd call sharp and that lends itself to the loose feeling I get. Obviously smokey, slightly sweet, acidic. Tart aftertaste. Slight heat from the alcohol intensifies the smokey feeling.

Not a bad beer from what I'd consider an overrated brewer. Loose around the edges, but not a bad beer. High ABV that's reasonably well hidden. You can smell and taste the ABV, but it kind of sneaks up on you. Overall, between average and good.

Photo of prototypic
3.55/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Batch 1

Cinder Bock pours a copper color. It’s very clear. A little light gives it a nice crimson hue. A soft tan head tops it. It’s rather modest, standing less than a finger tall. It was quick to dissipate and left only a very light coat of lace behind. Not bad.

The nose is above average. It’s a little week in terms of aromatics. It does feature some caramel malt notes early on. Smells a little sweet. There’s a smoky scent to it. I like that. It seems to work well with the malts. Secondary scents include yeast, light cocoa, and perhaps some very light, subtle dark fruit. Alcohol is there, but doesn’t seem too strong. It’s really not bad. A little more strength would probably go a long way.

The flavor is likewise above average. The malt base is a mix of caramel and chocolate varieties. It’s a bit sweet. The chocolate tastes mostly like cocoa though. A smoky flavor resonates throughout. It meshes pretty well with the malt base, but could be a little better. Seems a tad convoluted as it is. It is a little deeper and more complex than I anticipated. It features secondary flavors of yeast, raisin, plum, and a bit of alcohol. It’s not hot or overbearing though. Finishes smoky and malty.

Cinder Bock has a medium body. Carbonation is light and restrained. It actually feels pretty smooth. I’m impressed. It goes down alright. Could be a little better with a tweak or two though.

Boston Beer Company did a credible job with Cinder Bock. My hopes were honestly not all that high. It’s a pretty decent collision of a Rauchbier and a Doppelbock. The smoke and malt flavors seem to fight for space. If the smoke flavor were a little lighter, the problem would be solved. Not a bad beer though. If you’re into smoky beer, check it out.

Photo of Fatehunter
3.8/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Looking great with three fingers of tan head on a cloudy, reddish brown colored body.
The aroma has a lot of smoke and a little anise and black licorice. Nice if you like that.
The taste is quite sweet all the way through, a touch of smoke with burnt wood middle to end, fairly complex with good balance.
The texture is soft, slightly sticky with low to moderate carbonation.
Pretty good overall, but a bit too sweet for my taste. I enjoyed the smoke though.

Photo of HalfFull
3.53/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

650 ml. bottle poured into a large wine glass, the Cinder Bock seems appropriately named for a Rauchbier and one of a seemingly ever expanding and limitless cast of Sam Adam's 'special release' type beers.

Pours a light brown in color, clear and bright orange caramel in the light. Sports a half inch of whitish foam which offers decent retention and lacing.

Aroma is bock like for sure with deep and ruddy caramel notes, well integrated with some earthy hops and rich toffee as well as some wafting alcohol notes. Smoke is a bit dubious on the aroma however.

More caramel and toffee on the taste with a slight hint of smokiness but not much, in fact not much at all. Offers a nice grainy flavor with a complex malt profile. Caramel, dark fruit and toffee with muddled brown sugar. Pretty good but not a Rauch by any means.

Offers a nice full body and balanced with a good level of carbonation. Spritzy and spicy at the same time but not a Rauchbier.

Overall a nice Doppelbock, complex and spicy with a good hop backbone, dryer and more drinkable than many a German take but not a Rauch. I'm sorry am I repeating myself?

Note: Dopplebock/Rauch Light

Photo of Gmann
3.53/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a crystal clear dark amber color with a tight creamy head that left a sheet of lacing on the glass as it dissipated.

The aroma is a bit metallic and rusty. Some light sweet grain as well as some light smoke. Along with the smoke, there is a subtle hint of wet wood. Not overly smokey.

The flavor is grainy with an overall general fruitiness. Touch of honey. Pretty good bock flavor. The smokey flavor hides in the background and is used to add a layer to the bock flavor, which is nice but I would prefer a touch more smoke. The smoke brings some rust and wood notes. There is a noticable alcohol flavor which isn't all that pleasant. I guess they were going with a dopplebock base, though the malt seems a tad thin for that style.

The feel is light and crisp. Mainly sweet on the palate with a light earthy bitterness; finishes on the astringent side. Perhaps a tad sticky as well. Noticable belly burn from the ABV.

The ABV totally killed what would otherwise be a nice bock. Noticable alcohol flavor and burn; just not needed.

Photo of Kinsman
3.78/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a nice and hazy dark bronze color with a beautiful ivory colored creamy head on top. Opens up nicely with a tough of smoke on the nose and a nice sweet malty undertone. Notes of molasses, bread, and vanilla make for an inviting aroma.

Big and bocky on the palate with lots of sweet malty flavors and a bit of booziness as well. Almost has a gingerbread like quality to it with the molasses notes and the heat giving it a little kick. The smoke isn't quite as noticeable on the palate but it does add a nice touch to round it out.

Wonderfully creamy and smooth mouthfeel. Overall, a really tasty beverage but not quite smoky enough for me to consider this a true Rauchbeer.

Photo of KTCamm
3.77/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from the bomber bottle into a pint glass.

Pours reddish brown with thin ring of white foam. Some lacing. Smoky smell, notes of bacon/firewood. Flavor opens with a campfire smokiness and slowly fades into a sweet malty taste. Some toffee/caramel underneath. Good carbonation - tasty, smokiness is a touch strong and gets to be a bit much at the end.

Photo of jtierney89
3.3/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The last release of these beers was pretty disappointing with the exception of the vixen. Let's see if the boston beer company can redeem themselves with these two new brews.

Pours a deep garnet color with good clarity and a bit of off white head. Nose is reminiscent of a pig roast and very smokey making me fear that the beer itself may be overly smokey. A bit of dark malts come forward as the beer airs out. Nice malt sweetness up front with a pretty big body. Beer changes gears quickly though and finish incredibly porky and smokey. Not to the point of being terrible but it is slightly abrasive. It is a unique brew in starting subtle and then lashing out in flavor and is pretty fun.

The beer however whips the tongue around a bit with a few odd combos of flavors that aren't layered in the best manner possible with the smokey savory character overriding most of the others. This beer could enhance the flavor of a lot of BBQ foods or balance out some of the sweetness brought on by some asian meals.

Give the beer a few sips and some time to air out and some of the caramel and chocolate flavors that normally make up a bock make themselves present to help balance some of the richer flavors in the beer. While still in need of some more balance this brew is definitely unique and pretty good.

I would recommend splitting the bottle with a buddy though as the flavors are pretty massive and intense and can wear ya out.

Photo of Treyliff
3.7/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

A- pours a dark murky brown with a small creamy off-white head that has good retention after settling

S- smoked sausage, campfire ash, charred wood, birch, caramel & raisin. Pretty much pure smoke with a hint of caramel sweetness

T- big smoky flavors up front; charred woodsy notes, earthy and herbal, spicy. There's a caramel malty sweetness that adds some balance mid-palate. The finish brings more smoke with some peaty flavor

M- medium body and carbonation, creamy mouthfeel leads to a smooth and creamy finish. ABV is brilliantly hidden

O- the smoke is big throughout, making it hard to drink the entire bomber. However it paired nicely with some brick cheese and summer sausage. I think this style is better tackled with some food. Overall, worth a try!

Photo of Brutaltruth
3.59/5  rDev +0.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Enjoyed in snifter, this smoked bock pours a brilliant hazy copper with a firm white head and nice lacing. Nose of smoked malts, caramel, raisins, and more smoke. Flavors of sweet caramel up front, very rich, moderate smoke to the aftertaste with figs and raisins. Alcoholic warming and lots of smoke. With age the smoke dissipates, but still pretty strong with a goodly mouth feel, very wet but coating. Decent, big, but decent.

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Cinder Bock from Boston Beer Company (Samuel Adams)
81 out of 100 based on 455 ratings.