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Cinder Bock - Boston Beer Company (Samuel Adams)

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BA SCORE
81
good

442 Ratings
THE BROS
79
okay

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Ratings: 442
Reviews: 163
rAvg: 3.56
pDev: 17.98%
Wants: 19
Gots: 30 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Boston Beer Company (Samuel Adams) visit their website
Massachusetts, United States

Style | ABV
Rauchbier |  9.45% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Jason on 01-09-2012)
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Photo of BlurryVisi0n
2.33/5  rDev -34.6%

Poured in a wellington glass.

Appearance: Dark amber, 1" tan head drops after a sip or two.

Smell: Yes it smells, if you think it has an aroma you must be hungry this beer smells of shish-kebabs and steaks. Super-smoked and hardcore meats on top of a wooden-chipped BBQ.

Taste: I am being real with you I try all beers before I judge them but this beer does not taste like your normal "beer". It hints of smoked meat over a fire just like the name of it and an after taste which doesn't leave till after time or after a meal to water it down.

Mouth: Medium to heavy carbonation, sticks to your mouth unfortunately...Sam Adams must have been running the experiment of a lifetime to massively distribute this beer.

Overall: Better than it's bonfire predecessor but just like that beer this one does have a purpose besides making your face squirm, I would definitely use it in a marinade which it probably would excel in. I have had worse beers in my life but with the label of Sam Adams this is by far at the bottom of the list. If I had a slogan it would be "looks good taste morbid"

BlurryVisi0n, Mar 12, 2012
Photo of Spider889
4.1/5  rDev +15.2%

Batch #1, poured into a Kirta Halbe stange.

The beer is a bright and clear cherrywood color. The head (under a controlled pour) still reached over a finger in height and threatened much more if desired. A nice wall of lace plasters the glass. Overall a very nice beer to sit and admire from afar.

The aroma is thankfully restrained for a Rauchbier. So few breweries can manage to properly harness a strong smoke flavor/aroma I am happier to see balance than get a nose full of dirty campfire smoke that chokes and stings and hurts the stomach.

White oak and toasty wheat greet you first, and then the aroma turns to a modest helping of caramel and Vienna-esque maltiness. Smooth.

As you take your first sip the beer is at first disappointingly non-smokey. A faint bitterness and odd soapy flavor are the first thing you notice. I sat back and let this guy warm up for ten minutes before going back for more. Now, the flavor has opened up somewhat, showcasing chewy grainy malts and an earthy woody smoke flavor. No meat or gut-wrenching ash here - again Sam Adams has demonstrated their knack for balance. And while this is a quality that is often detrimental in their IPAs, here it is most welcome.

The back of the label calls this a double bock - I'm not sure if the intent was to brew a smokey doppelbock or to just double up on a bock creating a stronger beer (and at 9.45% I'd say they achieved a definite heaftiness). I'd be inclined to assume the later, but the smoke is potent enough to mask some of the nuance that one usually looks for in a true doppelbock. What you are left with is a nice balanced toasty bread flavor along with some caramel and balancing bitterness.

The mouthfeel is smooth and chewy, and the alcohol is very well hidden. The texture of the beer on the palate is a lingering sticky smoked wort flavor.

Overall I am pretty impressed here. I really wanted to like this but after the Baltic IPA I was feeling disenfranchised with the series. What I really wish though is that Sam Adams bottle dated these beers, because I want more Tasman Red but hesitate to fall prey to a months-old bottle with faded hops.

Either way, at $4.99 this is a really affordable bomber and well worth the money spent.

Spider889, Mar 11, 2012
Photo of MattyG85
4.03/5  rDev +13.2%

Poured from 650 ml bottle into a Sam Adams perfect pint glass.

Appearance: Pours a deep brownish ruby red with a tint of orange. Lots of rising bubbles and a huge four fingers of off white head with good retention. Lots of lacing sticking around the glass.

Smell: A fairly strong smell of smoke up front with hints of wood and smoked meats. Big presence of bready malts with lots of caramel and toffee. Also some hints of dark fruit, brown sugar, and faint earthy hops. Smells smoky and sweet.

Taste: Starts with a good taste of smoke that lingers throughout with a little taste of beef jerky and wood. Big bready taste with lightly roasted caramel malts and toffee. Hints of sugar/molasses and a little dark fruit. Also some hints of earthy hops to balance out the sweetness. Tastes a lot like a Dopplebock that is moderately smoked.

Mouthfeel: Body on the higher side of medium with a moderate level of carbonation. Creamy, somewhat sticky, and very smooth. A little alcohol heat is noticed but not much.

Overall: A pretty solid take on a Rauchbier. The smoke is very noticeable but not overwhelming and blends well with the malts.

MattyG85, Mar 10, 2012
Photo of zhanson88
3.93/5  rDev +10.4%

Appearance: Pours a very clear amber color, with a fair amount of carbonation. Head is an off white color, that has extremely nice retention and lacing. All in all, a pretty nice looking beer.

Smell: I get some caramel and some fruitiness, all overlayed by layers of smoke. The smoke is definitely prevalent, but it doesn't overpower the rest of the beer by any means.

Taste: Caramel and fruitiness initially. Fruits that come across are of the dark variety, and give a pretty good showing in the overall scheme. Smoke really hits mid-palate and dominates the rest of the flavor. Some hints of dark fruits peek out as well, but the smoke is the main flavor the last half of the sip.

Mouthfeel/Overall: Medium bodied with moderate carbonation. Pretty nice feel, and it does drink lighter than ~9.5% ABV. Very flavorful but it stays reasonably drinkable. Pretty good rauschbier. Admittedly I'm notl experienced with this style, but this beer is pretty nice and not over the top in smoke flavor, which I appreciate.

zhanson88, Mar 09, 2012
Photo of thegerm87
4/5  rDev +12.4%

thegerm87, Mar 09, 2012
Photo of Oboogie
3.75/5  rDev +5.3%

Oboogie, Mar 08, 2012
Photo of kjkinsey
4/5  rDev +12.4%

kjkinsey, Mar 07, 2012
Photo of mdfb79
3.9/5  rDev +9.6%

From 03/03/12 notes. My girlfriend liked this one up at EBF so we bought a bottle. 22 oz. bottle into a tulip.

a - Pours a dark amber color with two inches of off white head and moderate carbonation evident.

s - Smell's of smokey malts, dark fruits, toasted and roasted malts, burnt malts. Not a ton going on aside from some smokey malts.

t - Tastes of light smoke, sweet dark fruits, light brown sugar, roasted and toasted malts, bready malts. Better then the nose; some nice sweet fruit.

m - Medium body and moderate carbonation. Nice body and easy to drink; definitely doesn't feel like 9.45% ABV.

o - Overall a nice rauchbier. The nose is a little one dimensional but the taste is really nice; it's lightly smokey and fruity. Would have it again.

mdfb79, Mar 06, 2012
Photo of Mora2000
4/5  rDev +12.4%

The beer pours a deep red color with a tan head. The aroma is definitely that of a smoked beer. I get a ton of meaty BBQ-like smoke, as well as a little bit of roasted malt. The flavor follows suit. There are a lot of burnt malts, as well as as good dose of smoke and a little bit of sweetness from the toffee or caramel malt. Still, this beer is all about the smoke and it definitely delivers on that front. I don't get any alcohol, which is surprising since the beer is nearly 10 percent. Medium, creamy mouthfeel and medium carbonation.

Mora2000, Mar 06, 2012
Photo of Nerudamann
3.85/5  rDev +8.1%

Poured from a bottle into a Stange glass.

Look – deep red color, clear, with about two fingers’ worth of khaki-colored foam that dissipates slowly.

Smell – definitely smells like there’s a good blend between the hops and malts. Has almost a more spice-like aroma, like a pumpkin spice or something along those lines.

Taste – definitely seems to have a more spice-like taste, but the bitterness of the noble hobs comes into play around the middle of the tasting and doesn’t leave. Interesting complexity at the beginning, after which the smokiness does seem to reveal itself a bit.

Mouthfeel – pretty well-balanced overall, but does tend to lean a little bit toward the watery side.

Overall – not a bad tasting brew at all, and decently interesting to sample.

Nerudamann, Mar 05, 2012
Photo of RTEdmunds
3.85/5  rDev +8.1%

Oh wow this looks sexy. Deep reddish-amber color, foamy head.

Smells smokey, as expected. I also detect something that smells like beef jerky spices? Kind of odd, maybe it's just me.

I can taste the beef jerkyish flavor as well. Not very bitter at all. The sugars that compliment it are dark... remind me of molasses or something. Can definitely taste the alcohol. A bit of a metallic aftertaste.

Moderate carbonation, and surprisingly smooth. This is more drinkable than I expected.

My first encounter with a Rauchbier. It's intriguing, but the alcohol was a little overpowering and the metallicy aftertaste was a turnoff.

RTEdmunds, Mar 04, 2012
Photo of Gmann
3.53/5  rDev -0.8%

Pours a crystal clear dark amber color with a tight creamy head that left a sheet of lacing on the glass as it dissipated.

The aroma is a bit metallic and rusty. Some light sweet grain as well as some light smoke. Along with the smoke, there is a subtle hint of wet wood. Not overly smokey.

The flavor is grainy with an overall general fruitiness. Touch of honey. Pretty good bock flavor. The smokey flavor hides in the background and is used to add a layer to the bock flavor, which is nice but I would prefer a touch more smoke. The smoke brings some rust and wood notes. There is a noticable alcohol flavor which isn't all that pleasant. I guess they were going with a dopplebock base, though the malt seems a tad thin for that style.

The feel is light and crisp. Mainly sweet on the palate with a light earthy bitterness; finishes on the astringent side. Perhaps a tad sticky as well. Noticable belly burn from the ABV.

The ABV totally killed what would otherwise be a nice bock. Noticable alcohol flavor and burn; just not needed.

Gmann, Mar 03, 2012
Photo of Gosox8787
3.93/5  rDev +10.4%

Presentation: Bomber bottle labelled Batch No. 1. Poured into a Sam Adams pint glass slightly chilled.

Appearance: Light caramel brown in color and pretty clear with a light brown head that recedes almost immediately. No lacing left on top.

Aroma: The first clear note that comes off is smoked meat, particularly bacon, but it is not overpowering and gives way quickly to some dark fruits and caramel sweetness. A touch of smoke, but nothing overpowering.

Taste: A strong smoke note hits first, notes of barbeque and smoked meat. As the smoke note fades a bit, the bock character of the beer really starts to shine. Nice caramel and molasses notes lend a nice sweetness. Finishes a bit sweet and a bit smoky. Very nice.

Mouthfeel: Light to medium bodied with lots of carbonation. Not as creamy as I would expect for the style and ABV, which is nicely hidden.

Overall, a nice and drinkable beer, especially at this ABV and for this style. The rauchbier notes are not overdone at all, but they could be a bit more, however they blend nicely with the bock notes. Nicely done and good for the price. Not sure if I would get it regularly, but definitely something I'm glad I tried.

Gosox8787, Mar 03, 2012
Photo of TheHoppiest
3.63/5  rDev +2%

Poured from a 22 oz bottle into a tulip glass. Pours a russet-brown color with a 2" off-white head that reduces with minimal lacing.

Has a smokey, sweet aroma, with molasses, tangy fruit, and tons of BBQ and hickory. It's like the burnt sauce on a set of ribs.

Sweet, with a fair amount of alcohol, this starts thick and malty, with dark fruits, brown sugar, and a tangy, smokey finish, with hints of sweet lime and orange.

Definitely a full bodied brew, this leaves the tongue feeling slightly dry and tacky.

A decent, if not strong Rauch beer. The smokiness is not too overpowering to still get a decent idea of this beer's bock backbone. However, I'm finding it to be getting a bit too sweet as I get further through this brew.

TheHoppiest, Mar 03, 2012
Photo of tsulli
4/5  rDev +12.4%

tsulli, Mar 03, 2012
Photo of allengarvin
3.48/5  rDev -2.2%

This is a very dark copper-brown beer, with a small head that fades away to nothing at all very shortly. Smokiness comes through in the nose, sharply phenolic, without much maltiness. The taste on the other hand, is very heavily malty, together with harsh fusel alcohol notes. Smoke is certainly present, but this beer lacks the superbly tasty smokiness of the classic Schlenkerla. It would be better represented in a less strong beer, I think.

allengarvin, Mar 03, 2012
Photo of schoolboy
4.5/5  rDev +26.4%

This is the best imitation (American) rauchbier. There seems to be an intagible missing. Maybe the smell is the weak point, but the taste is spot on.The aftertaste is quite nice too.

It's nice and clear in the glass with not enough head. Maybe the next (warmer) glass will be even better. I would recommend this for comparing with Heller-Trum, THE rauchbier. It is real close.

schoolboy, Mar 02, 2012
Photo of jondeelee
4/5  rDev +12.4%

I admit a certain amount of trepidation, since rauchbiers are not one of my favorite styles. However, the aromas of Cinder Bock are quite pleasant, and while they do feature a good helping of the liquid smoke and campfire notes that I associate with the style, the nose is nicely balanced by dark sugars (fig, molasses) and dark breads (marble rye, toasted wheat crust). There's even a touch of vanilla and honey in there. Overall, I'm (at least so far) impressed by this brew, and while I do wish that the smokiness was a little more dampened, I don't find it as offputting as I do in other rauchbiers.

On the tongue, the beer starts off deep and smoky, the first tastes to hit the tongue much like the smoky part of, say, a smoked turkey, if you somehow removed the turkey. These flavors bring to mind campfires, charcoal brisquets, ash. A strong wave of sugars almost instantly joins, bringing caramel, fig, brown sugar, molasses, and vanilla, as well as some orange and berry and helps to soften the smoky blow. More marble rye breads follow, and the beer has a distinct spicy, peppery quality, biting at the tongue. A tinge of vodka does mar the brew somewhat, the huge flavors still not quite capable of coping with the 9.4% ABV. And even through the sugars and breads, a wave of smoke rolls over everything, sometimes catalyzing, sometimes masking, as it does in the aftertaste, which reminds me strongly of drinking a sugary stout while sucking in a cloud of piney campfire smoke. The aftertaste does last for a long time. Mouthfeel is medium, and carbonation is medium.

Overall, I like the beer, despite my problems with the style. The smoke notes here are still too strong for my tastes, but they are nicely balanced (except in the aftertaste) by lovely, sugary dark fruit esters, and for most of the mouthful neatly complement the brew. So well made is the beer that even subsequent mouthfuls don't lose their potency or nuance, assuring a smooth drink for the entire bottle. Worth trying.

jondeelee, Mar 02, 2012
Photo of rlee1390
3.48/5  rDev -2.2%

A-Clear amber carbonated two finger head

S-Beef Jerky, smokiness

T-Beef jerky, smokey, not much bitterness, chocolate and coffee

M-Medium bodied, some carbonation

O-At the end of it the flavor was too off for it be enjoyable, their Bonfine Rauch was better than this.

rlee1390, Mar 02, 2012
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3.5/5  rDev -1.7%

ineva, Mar 02, 2012
Photo of Kromes
4.33/5  rDev +21.6%

A: A clear copper color with a finger's width tan colored head that stays on top of the beer and doesn't fade.

S: Sweet toasted malts with a really nice hickory smoke aroma. Great to just swirl and enjoy.

T: The smoke hits right from the start. A sweet hickory smoke that is not overwhelming at all. Nice and mellow and mixes well with the toasted caramel and earthy flavors of the beer. Well done.

M: Medium-Heavy body with peppery carbonation and a warmth in the finish from the alcohol....which is well hidden.

O: Judging it as a Rauchbier, it's definitely up there. I can imagine trying to get the right balance of smoke, sweet, and bitter can be tricky.

Kromes, Mar 02, 2012
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3.5/5  rDev -1.7%

sparx1100, Mar 01, 2012
Photo of lordofthewiens
3.95/5  rDev +11%

This attractive beer was a dark ruby/mahogany color with a thick tan head. There was a little bit of lace.

Smoky aroma. Caramel malt. Very sweet. These all worked well together, making a very pleasant aroma.

Taste followed aroma very closely. Strong toffee and caramel with a smoky background.

Enjoyable, medium-bodied. Maybe a little on the sweet side. I liked it.

lordofthewiens, Feb 29, 2012
Photo of JizackFH
3.85/5  rDev +8.1%

A - This beer pours a nice clue ruby copper color. There is about a 2-finger head resting on top. The head has pretty good retention, and it leaves some lace behind clinging to the glass.

S - The nose has a good amount of sweet toasted maltiness, as well as a nice smoke presence. There is some caramel, smoked meat, and a little bit of a hop aroma.

T - The taste follows the nose pretty well. It starts off with some toasted malt and caramel flavor. That is immediately followed by a nice meaty smokiness. There is a small amount of fruitiness and a touch of booziness as well. The finish leaves some lingering smokiness and toasted malt flavor behind on the palate.

M - This has a body that is on the heavier side of medium and good carbonation. It goes down easy and has a nice smooth feel to it. There some toasted malt sweetness and a nice amount of smoke. I little bit of booze warmth on the back end.

O - This has good drinkability. It has nice flavor, and I could easily have a few pints of this. Overall, I think this is a solid beer and a nice example of the style. The booze is well hidden for being as high as it is. I just think this is a nice and interesting beer. I recommend trying it out. I would buy it again.

JizackFH, Feb 29, 2012
Photo of PhilCheSteak
1/5  rDev -71.9%

PhilCheSteak, Feb 29, 2012
Cinder Bock from Boston Beer Company (Samuel Adams)
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