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De Proef Flemish Primitive Wild Ale (Surly Bird) - De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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De Proef Flemish Primitive Wild Ale (Surly Bird)De Proef Flemish Primitive Wild Ale (Surly Bird)

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238 Ratings
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Ratings: 238
Reviews: 109
rAvg: 3.92
pDev: 13.52%
Wants: 16
Gots: 21 | FT: 1
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Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Pale Ale |  9.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Todd on 06-14-2005

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4/5  rDev +2%

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3.5/5  rDev -10.7%

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4.25/5  rDev +8.4%

Photo of TenHornsProud
3.61/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear straw yellow with a huge, white rocky head, almost Orval like.

Smells of some funk, diacetyl butteryness, and notes of brett barnyard.

Taste is up front green apple, sweet, with earthy funk that goes into a more bitter middle and ends on a slightly metallic, sharp, floral, and funky end. Surprisingly bitter but balanced. Still, somewhat one dimensional and boring.

Lighter to medium body with medium to high carbonation. Alcohol is surprisingly well masked.

A hoppy, somewhat fruity and floral funky beer that lacks something, maybe more malt or more funk would help. This WOULD be great with some slightly spiced/herbal food though.

Photo of ColForbinBC
4.2/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle, poured into a tulip

Pours a pale golden yellow with a foamy one+ finger white cap. The cap settled rather quickly to a thin layer. Mild visible carbonation.

The aroma is of medicinal/herbal hops, overripe fruit, and an underlying funkiness. The funk is most reminiscent of band-aids and horses with a damp muskiness lurking.

On the palate, the flavor profile flips itself from the aroma. The aroma was more fruity, herbal with the funk laying low. On the palate, the funk is much more prominent while the fruity, medicinal feel takes a backseat.

Band-aid and horse funkiness with a damp must are prominent, while overripe fruit and herbal hops come in on the back end. The hops are biting and spicy, cutting through the funk for a herbal hop finish with a minor touch of funk.

The feel is on the lighter side of medium, with a touch of prickly carbonation that accentuates the biting, spicy hops in the finish.

This is a nice little BSPA. I wasn't expecting the funk, but it was a welcome surprise. I will be seeking this out again. Solid on all fronts.

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2/5  rDev -49%

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4.5/5  rDev +14.8%

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5/5  rDev +27.6%

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4/5  rDev +2%

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4.5/5  rDev +14.8%

Photo of John_M
3.97/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pretty sure this was the beer had on tap at Max's during their Belgian event (the label, I believe, was on the tap handle).

The beer pours a surprisingly light gold color with fair head retention and lacing. The nose is quiite sour and funk filled, but with some nice light vanilla and honey as well. The flavor profile replicates the nsoe, and this beer is definitely a sour funk lovers wet dream of a beer. Nevertheless, the combination of honey, vanilla and sour funk is pretty intriguing and enjoyable, with the mouthfeel suprisingly full (lot of flavor in this one). Alcohol is also a bit noticeable, but it's not over the top. I don't get too much heat or alcholic bite on the finish.

My guess is that this beer is not for everyone, and is not something I'd care to have all that often either. Still, this was another interesting beer to try at Max's Belgian event.

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3.98/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured into DFH chalice... starts with big white head with great lacing and nice retention. Beer has a crisp golden color with a bit of yeasty sediment floating around -4.5

Has a light funk aroma with some bready and sweet malt notes -4

Has a light sweetness present from start to finish with some light funk and a bit of spice -4

Pretty light bodied with light carbonation

Not as funky as I prefer from a wild ale, but a good tasting beer none the less

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4.5/5  rDev +14.8%

Photo of sweemzander
3.45/5  rDev -12%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

750mL bottle poured into a tulip.

(A)- Pours a goldenrod color. Produced a nice tall cap of white froth. Great retention and lace.

(S)- A bone dry horseblanket, earth, clay, and a lemon-Brett funk. Bits of biscuit and tartness at the end. Quite nice and funky.

(T)- Very similar to the smell. A heavy Brett funk with lots of earth, clay, and spice. Far more Brett than the smell led me to believe actually.

(M)- A good carbonation level. A decent balance, though very Brett-forward with earthy bits. Not a whole lot else taste-wise.

(D)- Its easy to enjoy well enough, though nothing to write home about. The Brett is just too dominating for me to get more out of this than just a Brett funk. The smell was quite nice though.

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4.25/5  rDev +8.4%

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4/5  rDev +2%

Photo of Rifugium
4/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

First had: on tap at Capone's, Norristown, PA

Served in a snifter, a slightly cloudy golden-yellow with a small cap of foamy white head that retained and laced well. Aroma of Belgian yeast, sour and funky, wet grass, and light citrus. Sweet and tart fruit flavors--citrus zest, apple skin, a bit of pear and maybe cherry--wet grass, cardboard, and some earthy and herbal hop notes. Medium body, pretty crisp and drying, moderate carbonation. Quite drinkable.

Photo of Reswald
4.5/5  rDev +14.8%

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4/5  rDev +2%

Photo of DCon
3.83/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Enjoyed on-tap @ the Thirsty Monk (Belgian bar in basement) in Asheville, NC for $6.50. Tapped from a Dark colored tap handle w/ the Surly Bird on it into a 16oz La Moneuse Blaugies Tulip Glass.

Aroma- Extremely sweet on the nose with a light sour background (only hints) and very complexed. Finishes with a ton of musk though... Appreciated the first part of the aroma but didn't care for the muskiness.

Appearance- Received with a 2 finger head that had average retention. Has a dark amber colored body and left good lacing behind.

Flavor- The flavor is sweet with light, artificial cherries. The backend is sour and very complexed. No hops or bitterness involved.

Mouthfeel- Light-Medium Bodied, High Carbonation, and has a light sour finish on the palate.

Overall Impression- I'm not too sure of the style but enjoyed it! Wish there was more flavor and body instead of the musky aroma and finishing flavor. I have this in bottle and interested to see how it ages. VERY easy going beer.

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4.12/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Had this on tap at the Holy Grale in Louisville, KY.

A- Pale, semi-translucent golden yellow with a big, white head.

S- At first smell, I got a strange astringent smell, but after a few seconds all I got was fruit salad... No sourness detected after the fruit salad took over.

T- How is this 9%??? Amalgamation of fruit… yet not overpoweringly fruity. I was expecting this to be a bit sourer; however, it was nice and earthy/funky. I got a slight ‘hoppyness’ near the end. All-in-all it seemed more like a bready saison, yet not.

M- Medium bodied brew with a dry, clean finish. Carbonation was nice for the style, providing a nice crispness.

O- Interesting brew, but different than what I expected. It was a nice surprise to find this during the winter months.

Photo of SanDiegoBeerLove
3.5/5  rDev -10.7%

Photo of falloutsnow
3.96/5  rDev +1%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Bottle purchased from Binny's Beverage Depot in Schaumburg, IL.
No freshness date on the bottle, but likely from 2011 as it was not present in the summer, last time I was in the store.
Poured into a pint glass with a stout glass column.

I tried a glass of this with and without the yeast and found that I enjoyed it more when yeast was added (flavor was more robust and complex).

The beer can pour a fairly large head, though not particularly dense, made up of smallish and medium-sized bubbles. Mostly white in color, could argue off-white as well if desired. Fades rather quickly to a thin cap atop the body, but leaves quite a bit of lacing and spots of residual foam as it does so. This is augmented with each swirl and sip. Beer's body is a fairly bright, hazy (from sediment) yellow gold color out of light. When placed near a lamp, the beer is pale orange yellow. Very visible and active carbonation. I have not seen a better light-colored Belgian ale than this.

Dominant aroma (funk) from the beer is a product of the so-called wild fermentation, from whichever Brettanomyces strain was used, which gives off a moderately strong burnt electrical wire meets sawdust scent (tempered acidity). Mild sweetness in the background alongside some olde-type farm scents (true, dry compost and horses), you could also suggest that white pepper is noticeable.

Taste opens with a complex meld between Brettanomyces-influenced burnt electrical wire with sawdust sourness, vinegar-ness and bright malt sweetness. Midpoint is bright and fruity, esters dominate, take your pick of apples, pears, light-fleshed plums, pineapple and maybe even slight nectarines. Ethanol begins to be detectable in the last 1/3 of taste, both on the tongue and in the nasal cavity. Fade out is brightly, weirdly sweet with even more esters, then ethanol "warmth" and return of Brettanomyces-inspired flavors. Aftertaste is gently sour and bitter, like the taste in one's mouth hours after regurgitating, with enough residual sweetness to make this tolerable. If someone said this beer was akin to drinking the sour, vinegary, fruity, sweet, carbonated vomit of a god, then s/he would be in agreement with myself. I sometimes ask myself how I consider what is palatable to actually be palatable.

Beer's body is about medium in weight, with carbonation levels that are a bit excessive for this heaviness. Mouthfeel is rather aggressively prickly. The result is a beer, with quite high alcohol content, that does not linger in the palate, but is rather quickly gulped down. Finish is dry, pleasing. Overall, a bit disappointing for mouthfeel.

Overall, I enjoyed this beer and thought it was an interesting, continued foray into wild ales. If you let it sit for a while, the carbonation is even less of an issue. Would I get it again? Sure, if I was in the mood for a Brettanomyces-forward wild, but sweet BSPA.

Photo of corby112
4.03/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a cloudy, dark golden yellow color with a two finger frothy, pillowy white head that very slowly fades into a thick, lasting ring. Large streaks of soapy lacing left behind.

Earthy, funky aroma with a lot of bretty barnyard character along With some zesty spice, pale malt and grassy hops. Not acidic but plenty of funky brett countered by bready yeast and light fruit notes. Smells like a bretted farmhouse/saison.

Medium bodied with a slight creamy texture and a prominent dry, funky brett presence. Not puckering or sour with a slight tart character and the dry funk complimenting the light fruit and other earthy notes. Hints of grass and straw with some dry, spicy hops followed by hints of bread, apple and pear. Very nice balance of sweetness and dry, earthy funk. The ABV is well masked with only some slight heat in the dry finish, resulting in a highly quaffable beer.

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3.5/5  rDev -10.7%

De Proef Flemish Primitive Wild Ale (Surly Bird) from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
88 out of 100 based on 238 ratings.