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De Proef Flemish Primitive Wild Ale (Surly Bird) - De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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De Proef Flemish Primitive Wild Ale (Surly Bird)De Proef Flemish Primitive Wild Ale (Surly Bird)

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BA SCORE
88
very good

218 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 218
Reviews: 106
rAvg: 3.92
pDev: 13.78%
Wants: 15
Gots: 18 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot) visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Pale Ale |  9.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Todd on 06-14-2005)
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drewone

California

3.25/5  rDev -17.1%

02-26-2013 05:51:09 | More by drewone
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UCLABrewN84

California

3.46/5  rDev -11.7%

Thanks to wethorseblanket for sharing this one at jmgrub's birthday tasting.

Pours a hazy honey orange with a foamy tan head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Small streaks of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, honey, and some cardboard aromas. Taste is much the same with a Brett flavor on the finish. There is a mild amount of hop bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer that seems to be showing a bit of oxidation compared to the other beers in the series.

02-26-2013 02:59:53 | More by UCLABrewN84
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Tucquan

Pennsylvania

4/5  rDev +2%

02-15-2013 01:41:46 | More by Tucquan
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thecheapies

Pennsylvania

3.99/5  rDev +1.8%

Thanks to wittyname for throwing this one my way! Cap reads '2061206'. Not sure what that translates to, or if it even refers to dating code.

Pours an earthy gold color with lots of rising bubbles. The head is nearly immaculate and difficult to navigate around during the pour. A big fluffy and frothy bout of white foam that reached nearly four inches height in my tulip. Holds forever. Looks astounding. Gotta hand it to the Belgians, man; do they know how to make a good-looking brew or what?!

Mild, yet subtly sweet, aromas of apple and hay and brettanomyces. A very benign and enjoyable Belgian pale nose that's missing the strength that this beer supposedly carries (9%). Yeasty with fruit, but not overcasting the light funkiness. Quaint. Nice.

Brett-iness churns like cheese with dry, nutty tones. Fruitiness is much more subdued, as this beer is driven by yeasty critters. Still, some light green apple tannic notes. No sourness detected, however. Alcohol stings a bit, now. Strange flavors of pimento-stuffed green olives/brine intrigue me. Kind of like a semi-dirty martini. Bready nature inflates with pale maltiness, and maybe a wheat addition. Very, very dry; especially in the finish.

Body and carbonation are spot-on, but I don't like the too-obvious booziness. Needs some time to mellow out, and maybe thin out the body just a bit. Although, this can't get much drier.

Happy to have tried this one. A complex BSPA with a unique Brett-y twist. Worthy of a snag if you see it on a shelf near you.

02-12-2013 04:17:27 | More by thecheapies
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emilylee

California

4/5  rDev +2%

02-06-2013 17:16:27 | More by emilylee
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DmanGTR

Florida

4.25/5  rDev +8.4%

02-04-2013 13:30:13 | More by DmanGTR
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rdickey

New Jersey

4.15/5  rDev +5.9%

Appearance: A gentle pour reveals a beautiful clear golden beer, topped with a fluffy white head. A steady stream of fine bubbles continues to rise from the bottom of the glass.

Smell: Enticing – floral notes, a little honey, cut grass and a hint of Brett.

Taste: I’ll admit that it is not quite what I expected, but it’s not an unpleasant surprise. The sweet fruit flavors get run off fairly quickly by the aggressive carbonation, and the beer takes on a bone-dry character that persists to the end. The Brett is quite restrained, and provides more of an interesting accent rather than dominating the flavor profile.

Mouthfeel: The carbonation is definitely high, and although it works I can’t help wondering if dialing it down a notch or two would allow more of the subtleties of the beer to come through.

Drinkability: Notwithstanding my musings about the carbonation level, there’s no doubt that it contributes to a very crisp, clean finish, and with the ABV relatively well hidden, this is a highly drinkable beer.

01-21-2013 01:38:33 | More by rdickey
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StaveHooks

Oklahoma

4.14/5  rDev +5.6%

750ml capped bottle. Acquired in 2012. No dating on the bottle.
Served in a Duvel tulip

A - Clear golden brass body with 3 fingers of moundy white head. Impressive retention, with speckled lacing throughout.

S - Spicy Belgian yeast, dried bananas, apples, pears, grassy, cloves, pepper, perfumy lemon, hints of earthy musk.

T - Fruity upfront with white peaches, pears, banana, pineapple, and starfruit. Grainy pale malt creates a nice base, earthy black pepper, cloves, dusty grass, herbal notes and lemon come out more as it warms. The finish starts peppery and turns tart. Finishes dry.

M - Moderate carbonation, prickly at first then smooths out. Medium bodied, glides over the palate.

Awesome looking beer! This is pretty balanced beer. All of the components shine without being overtaken. Funk is there but acts as more of an accent. Good carbonation and mouthfeel as well.

01-19-2013 23:07:24 | More by StaveHooks
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FeDUBBELFIST

Pennsylvania

4.03/5  rDev +2.8%

750mL bottle to tulip.
$17 for the single. Sampled 18JAN13

[A] Even a slow pour is beautiful. The glass fills with a bright golden yellow beer with a pristinely white, fluffy head growing on top. The result is 3 fingers of dense foam. Retention is superb. Deflation is uneven but the rocky nature of the cap is quite endearing. Thick clumps of lace grab the glass in a scattered and carefree way.

[S] The nose has an overlying rustic theme which is accentuated by the unmistakable aroma of brett. Accents of lemon zest and orange flesh plus a backdrop of hay, grass and flowers. A nice bed of sweet grain comes through on deeper inhales. Straightforward, honest, and well executed. I like the nose more and more with each sniff.

[T] Some of the nuance is lost in between the nose and the palate, mainly because of the abrasive bubbles, but also because of the dryness. For a bretted BSGA, it's exactly what one would expect, but the depth of flavor does suffer as a result. It seems that the brett has absolutely pillaged the remaining sugars.

[M] Arid desert dry with more than enough carbonation to wipe the tongue entirely clean. The bubbles have a coarse texture but, a quick swirl of the glass can bring the effervescence back into check.

[O] I like this beer a lot but it is a little finnicky in the mouthfeel department. And that affects the taste in a negative way. But the bones are good. And once the carbonation is within your comfort zone, than the Surly Bird is a pretty remarkable beer. I'd be happy to have it again if the price were a little lower.

01-19-2013 02:13:48 | More by FeDUBBELFIST
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Taylor_Nychole


3.75/5  rDev -4.3%

12-25-2012 00:01:07 | More by Taylor_Nychole
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bluejacket74

Ohio

4.05/5  rDev +3.3%

750 ml bottle. Served in a Unibroue tulip, the beer pours a hazy gold golor with a couple inch frothy white head. Head retention is good, and there's a lot of lacing. Aroma is earthy and fruity, it smells like pears, hay, peppery spice, apples, lemon peel, cloves and some funk. Taste is similar to the aroma, but there's also some bready/grainy malt and light floralness noticeable too. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's a bit creamy and has high but soft carbonation. It's easy to drink, and it sure doesn't seem like a 9% ABV beer as the alcohol is well hidden. I think it's a good overall brew. At $9.99 a bottle, it's certainly worth a try.

12-15-2012 23:09:49 | More by bluejacket74
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rfgetz

New Jersey

3.9/5  rDev -0.5%

Pours a lightly cloudy gold with big poof of white foam. Scent leads with musty dirt and grain, tart green apple and pear, light citrus. Tast follows suit, apple notes well developed and play with the musty and earthy yeast profile, cleaner citrus and tropical notes on the end with breadyness. Medium bodied, bubbly yet cream, dry. Solid offering, was expecting more from the brett.

12-05-2012 14:30:23 | More by rfgetz
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prototypic

Ohio

4.35/5  rDev +11%

This Surly Bird variation of Flemish Primitive Ale is gold in color. It’s hazy and looks to have a few yeasty particles swimming about. Carbonation definitely looks active. It yields a bone white head that stands about two and a half fingers tall. Looks good. It doesn’t look like it will completely dissipate. Impressive. Lacing was sticky, leaving billows of white lace in its wake.

The nose is good. It isn’t quite as strong as I’d like, but it smells good. It kicks off with a mix of earthy, musky, and funky notes. The funky side of it is relatively modest. I like that about it. It features just enough of that barnyard scent to make things interesting. It features a light fruity scent. Smells like apple or pear. Belgian yeast smells really nice and spicy. Pepper and clove are noted. Hops are more prominent than anticipated. They smell mostly grassy. Alcohol is blended extremely well. Smells good.

The flavor is excellent. The flavor is a great mix of grassy, spicy, and funky flavors. It’s very musky and earthy up front. Barnyard funk follows. It is moderate in strength, but complements the other flavors extremely well. It’s has a slightly acidic twist to it, but it’s mild. Belgian yeast is very flavorful and brings an excellent spicy mix to the table. Pepper and clove are the most notable spices. Hops are very grassy and earthy. There’s a hint of apple or pear on the tail. Alcohol is blended well and doesn’t seem like 9% abv. Finishes earthy, spicy, funky, and a little dry.

Surly Bird has a lighter body. Carbonation is active, but it still feels soft. In classic Belgian fashion, it feels nice and smooth despite its light body and active bubbles. This stuff goes down far too easy.

De Proefbrouwerij has an excellent Belgian Strong Pale Ale in Surly Bird. This stuff is delicious and is strong in all aspects. If you happen to see a bottle, do yourself a favor and grab a bottle. Really good stuff!

12-02-2012 04:03:12 | More by prototypic
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tripledbrew

Kentucky

4/5  rDev +2%

12-01-2012 03:04:22 | More by tripledbrew
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GeoffreyM

Pennsylvania

3.5/5  rDev -10.7%

11-30-2012 18:49:57 | More by GeoffreyM
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fdig23

Pennsylvania

4.55/5  rDev +16.1%

On tap at Station Taproom in Downingtown.

Appearance: Bright shimmering golden color with a small fluffy white head

Nose: Nothing at first, but after a few swirls a very vibrant nose of apple juice, over-ripe pear, and wet basement funk came through.

Taste: Immediately apple juice comes to mind, followed by a funky baked apple, wet moldy concrete basement flavor. Finishes with a hint of amaretto and piney hops.

Mouthfeel: Light and slick with decent carbonation, nothing too exciting here.

Overall: Great wild ale with some of the underlying belgian golden ale characteristics still shining through the wild yeasts. The funk is definitely there but its perfectly in balance and never overwhelming. Very quaff-able for both a wild fermented and a 9% abv brew.

11-22-2012 16:45:39 | More by fdig23
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sludgegnome

Pennsylvania

4.25/5  rDev +8.4%

11-22-2012 04:19:32 | More by sludgegnome
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manaconn

Massachusetts

4.5/5  rDev +14.8%

11-21-2012 18:49:23 | More by manaconn
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superspak

Michigan

3.9/5  rDev -0.5%

750 ml bottle into tulip glass; no bottle dating. Pours lightly hazy and cloudy golden amber color with a nice 2-3 finger dense white head with incredible retention, that reduces to a nice cap that lingers. Some nice thick foamy lacing clings to the glass. Aromas of big pear, tart apple, grape, pepper, lemon, earth, herbal, floral, clove, grass, hay, and light yeast funkiness. Nice aromas with good complexity and decent balance. Taste of pear, tart apple, grape, lemon, pepper, clove, herbal, grass, hay, earth, light funk, and yeast spiciness. Lightly tart earthiness on the finish; with lingering notes of light fruits, citrus, pepper, clove, grass, herbal, earth, funk, and yeast spiciness on the finish for a good bit. Very nice flavor balance and complexity; nice fruity/peppery flavor balance; zero cloying flavors noticed after the finish. Medium-high carbonation and medium-full bodied; with a lightly slick, very crisp, and prickly mouthfeel that is good. Alcohol is extremely well hidden with almost no warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is a very nice Belgian pale wild ale. Nice flavor complexity and balance; very smooth and easy to sip on for 9%. I enjoyed this offering quite a bit.

11-20-2012 05:28:47 | More by superspak
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BDIMike

Ohio

4.08/5  rDev +4.1%

Pours a great looking bright, golden color. There is a slight haze to the beer along with a lot of carbonation creating a huge fluffy white head.
Aroma has the usual great Belgian nose. Strong floral hops and sugary, sweet malts. Nice fruitiness as well.
Taste has a strong fruity and floral hop shot. The hop tastes are cut short by a good dry shot of golden malts.
Mouthfeel is very nice. Refreshing at first, but then a very strong dryness takes over. It is a good dryness that leaves the pallet wanting for another sip.
Drinkability is awesome on this beer. A very nicely balanced Belgian strong that has a lot of nice tastes that hide a 9% ABV. Great selection.

11-17-2012 01:41:45 | More by BDIMike
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polishkaz

Connecticut

3.75/5  rDev -4.3%

11-16-2012 03:28:44 | More by polishkaz
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imperialking

Illinois

3.75/5  rDev -4.3%

11-13-2012 20:30:02 | More by imperialking
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ste5venla

California

4.25/5  rDev +8.4%

11-10-2012 23:53:35 | More by ste5venla
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DavoleBomb

Ohio

3.98/5  rDev +1.5%

Poured into a tulip. I had Pinhead when I was in Baltimore about three years ago and really liked it. This is the first time I've seen a Flemsih Primitive since then so I had to buy it. Hopefully this one is as good as the artwork.

3.5 A: Lightly hazed golden yellow color. I needed several pours due to the overabundance of head formation. Several minutes later I found three fingers of foamy white head. Retention is about average, but a lot of it sticks.

4.0 S: This smells just as good as I would have remembered it if I could. Bold bretty aroma with peppery spiciness stands out immediately. Lots of apple, some pear and orange fruits. Pithy woodiness funk to go along with musty basement and musky outdoors. Lemongrass, hay, citrusy and floral hoppiness, and corriander. Very nice.

4.0 T: Taste is just as good. A little less funky that I was expecting, but well rounded and well balanced. Pepper and corriander spice. Lots of apple again, but this time pear might be even stronger. Generalized citrusy undertones. Hay, dry dusty wood, grass, apple orchard, and musty basement funk. Mild to moderate bitterness with a floral hoppy flavor. Bitter orange peel and an earthy tobacco to round it out. Booze is so well hidden I almost forgot to mention it.

4.0 M: Medium body. A bit overcarbonated, but a few good whirls and that is taken care of. Otherwise, nice spritziness and super smooth. No complaints here.

4.0 D: Well rounded, tasty brett beer. No major faults, good complexity, and well integrated flavors.

11-09-2012 01:27:50 | More by DavoleBomb
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JasonSiedman

New Jersey

3.25/5  rDev -17.1%

11-07-2012 04:48:09 | More by JasonSiedman
De Proef Flemish Primitive Wild Ale (Surly Bird) from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
88 out of 100 based on 218 ratings.